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Thats a bold prediction you made Coolhayek, but I'd have to disagree with it. And not just because I'm a Pats fan.

The Cowboys defense is just not good enough to stand up to the Patriots offense. It's just not and lets not fool ourselves here by arguing that it is. Match that with the Patriots STELLAR defense, and really, the Cowboys are going to lose by a large margin. Thats my prediction. I'd say something along the lines of 38-14 or 38-21 in favor of the Pats. I'm telling you right now, Tony Romo is not going to have a good game. Not against this defense. He may very well scrap together a decent game, but I promise you he won't be turnover-free, and when you're facing a team as talented as the Pats, you just can't afford to give up any turnovers in the game.

Cowboys are a team with a whole lot of holes in it. They've got a great offense with guys like Romo, Owens and Barber, but thats about all they really have going for them.

And in my opinion, TO is not even 1/4th as good of a reciever as Randy Moss. And Romo isn't even 1/100th of as good of a QB as Tom Brady is. Add the Patriots absolutely stacked and RIDICULIOUS defense with guys like Teddy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel, Junior Seau, Adalius Thomas, Asante Samuel and Rodney Harrison, I just don't think the Cowboys are gonna stand a chance.

Don't expect and edge-of-your-seat thrill ride from this one folks.

You heard it directly from the horse's mouth.


of course u make valid points my friend but u got to take into consideration that almost every team (good teams mostly) struggle in the game before the BIG GAME..the cowboys were playing a LOOK AHEAD game and almost cost them...they will not muck it up two weeeks in a row. They have played pretty good football this season and that cannot be discounted....I would agree with u that if it were a Pats-Cowboys super bowl game in a neutral spot, then the Pats would win but since this is at Texas Stadium, the Cowboys have their fans behind them and that is something u can never discount. I am in no way a Cowboys fan...in fact I respect the Pats more but Romo reminds me of Aikman and its not just the number similarities but the way he was brought into the system and he is the first moderately asuccessful QB for Dallas since Aikman...heck u prolly wud hear it from the horse's mouth...watch the Cowboys next time they are on FOX with Aikman broadcasting and even he will prolly admit that Romo has some very good tendencies as a QB...But u have to remember that while the Pats have blown out the majority of their opponents, that is not always a good thing...like I said if the Cowboys are able to play a full 48 minutes, then this will definately be a Cowboys win....but if they go the predictable route...sucking in the 1st and rallying, it will NOT WORK.....but I dont think the Pats will blow them out simply because guys come on THE GAMES AT TEXAS STADIUM....I mean last year yes the Boys got blown out twice at TEXAS STADIUM BY THE SAINTS AND GIANTS but this year's team is so much better and they are the class of the NFC whether u like it or not...if the Pats do win, it will be close, but if the Pats win, it will also be close but don't expect a blowout or u guys will be terribly dissapointed...o yeah and XFEAR congfrats on the Red Sox, u guys kicked our asses. But to finish my point, this will prolly be the best game thus far in the season and I cannot wait to watch it. The Pats are not a perfect team EVERY team has a weakness...(example-Pats first super bowl win against 17 point favored Rams) u should remember that better than anyone XFEAR about how ur Pats had NO CHANCE of winning and then they manhandle the Rams the whole game....My predicted score is 34-27 Cowboys but if the Pats do win it, the score will be Pats 38-31...I just don't see a blowout. Besides guys, this is football, if it wasn't unpreditable we wouldn't like it as much. I mean the Pats were the losers of the early 90s, then rose to prominence in the mid 90s then back down and then back up. Don't u guys just love how the game can quickly make ur teams from bad to great. It's not like baseball where the Yanks win every year and the Pirates lose every year....NFL is all about opportunity...it just matters who takes it.
 
Having a good Relationship with your Coach and QB is essential in having productive seasons. If Moss didnt see eye to eye with there coach and QB he most likely will not get the ball.

Randy Moss & the officials in Oakland never got off to a good start though, because there wasn't ever a good QB to get him the ball. The Patriots got a golden ticket in Moss, by giving up a 4th round draft pick.. because Oakland knew if they didn't deal Moss away, he'd sit & not play. Not only would that type of action hurt Moss, but it'd destroy a franchise team. (Look at T.O. & the Eagles, or 49ers)

Here's what I question though. If Randy Moss never went to New England this year, & he remained in Oakland.. with Culpepper finding his way there as well, how would THAT have turned out?

I dont ever remember T.O ever saying he plays when he wants to. T.O might be a trash talker but just like Chad Johnson T.O can go out there and back his game up, where Moss in previous years can become lazy and only want to play when he is given the ball.

Owens never went public about complaining about getting the ball enough, but that isn't to say he wasn't shown several times during games complaining & bitching at his "current" QB about it being THEIR fault that HE didn't make the catch. Owens has always blamed everyone but himself.

Moss doesn't give a shit about the media, or the "public eye," if you think I'm wrong.. look up a story they ran on Moss when he was still in Minnesota. He used to bring a mentally challenged girl, (I think she was mentally challenged) to every practice & team training, workout. Moss NEVER wanted that to air on t.v., because he didn't want anyone giving him credit for something that in HIS mind he felt was just the decent thing to do.

The closest T.O. ever came to a mental patient was almost becoming one, from last year's "accidental overdose."

As far as Moss not being able to back-up his game.. similar to that of T.O. & Chad Johnson, last time I checked Moss was a very valuble member of his new team.. & with the exception of, I think last week, he's had 100 yds. plus in each of his other games. Furthermore, Moss hasn't even been IN the media lately..

Mistakes happen you cant win every game, Quarterbacks have bad games look at Brett Favre and so forth. You are right about the Cowboys defense, they arent that strong. Randy Moss can be considered one of the best receivers in many years when he actually plays. Tom Brady is a proven QB and he was a proven QB without ever having a big game receiver like Moss. About the bills upsets happen its a matter of who showed up that game. That game was a game the cowboys should have won and they did, who cares if its by 3 points its a win in the win-loss column.

I fully agree with this. No team is perfect, no QB is going to have a great game everytime. But what I'm saying is this.. the monday night game proved to the world that the Cowboys are "mortal" & can be beaten. The Patriots haven't shown any signs of any team coming remotely close. The Cowboys were fighting back & forth with the Rams up until right before half-time when Romo made that ridiculous run for a first down.

Bottomline is this.. the Cowboys showed that they won't give up.. but they didn't win that game as much as people would like to believe. Yes, a win is a win, & a loss is a loss.. but the Bills did at the end of that game, what Dallas did at the beginning.. they allowed themselves to believe it was over, before it was over.

I believe the were a 3 seed because they played the six seeded Chiefs at home then i believe they played the Ravens.

Seeding shouldn't mean shit. Pittsburgh was the 6th seeded team & went all the way to the Superbowl, winning it. Furthermore, New England played with the seedings a couple years back, so they lost a game intentionally so they wouldn't have to play Pittsburgh until the A.F.C. Championship game.. but as I recall, they ended up losing to Denver first.

Furthermore, look at Carolina's most recent playoff run. They were 5th-6th seeded & beat the #1 (or 2) seeded Bears, who'd beaten them earlier in the season. All seeding is, is the "home field reward" for the teams who had a better season record. Outside of that, seeding means nothing.
 
Totally agree with you Brian.

Moss is a better reciever then TO in every category. You bring up one bad season in Oakland as proof that he isn't? There are somethings you need to know about Randy Moss.

He's not a friendly nice guy. He doesn't want attention, and he's not an absolute disgrace to the game of football like TO is most of the time. Never in my life have I seen someone so arrogant and completely selfish as Terrell Owens. Never. That includes sports and real life.

Moss didn't have a good season in Oakland because he didn't WANT to have a good season in Oakland. And why? Because the Raiders were the worst team in the NFL that year. And Randy Moss is not some saintlike figure don't get me wrong on that one, but the one thing he wants more then ANYTHING else is to WIN. Thats why he's playing so well for the Patriots this season, and is proving just how much better of a reciever he is then Owens or Chad, because he's with a team that has all but locked up a Super Bowl spot.

Moss may not be the gold standard of respectable pro athletes, but he damn sure is better then TO in just about every single category a human could be.
 
I feel the 49ers have lost their edge, call it rebuilding or whatever but frankly they suck.

Bringing in Franklin, Michael Lewis, Colby Bockwoldt and Tully Banta-Cain really hasn't sorted their defensive out. Yeah you could say it's rebuilding and I hope in the long run the team can sort this out. But to lose in the last 3 games and have teh Giants next, things aren't looking good!
 
I feel the 49ers have lost their edge, call it rebuilding or whatever but frankly they suck.

Bringing in Franklin, Michael Lewis, Colby Bockwoldt and Tully Banta-Cain really hasn't sorted their defensive out. Yeah you could say it's rebuilding and I hope in the long run the team can sort this out. But to lose in the last 3 games and have teh Giants next, things aren't looking good!

You do realize we are 5 weeks in? five weeks in? and the Niners are 2-3...not the best record but plausable.....the Giants can be beaten...just ask Green Bay and we have as good a defense as they do. If the Niners can get their offense to click with their aready good defense, then the next few games will be really good.
 
well I can admit when I was wrong...and about the Pats-Cowboys game...well I was wrong.....but you guys got to admit it was closer than u all thought it would be until the 4th quarter that is....the Cowboys were even winning...who saw that coming? But yeah the AFC still owns the NFC and I am looking forward to the November 7th win by the Colts over the Pats....
 
I told you all along that the Patriots would blow out the Cowboys. I give it to you Dallas fans that yes, for a while there you made it very close, but through out that entire game I had not even the smallest inkling of doubt that New England would win the game. And no matter what way you want to put it, a final score of 48-27 is a blowout. Thats a 21 point difference. Thats a blowout.

Now its funny that you say the Colts will beat the Pats because you know what...they won't. No way in hell. Not unless some drastic injury takes out Tom Brady or Randy Moss.

I don't want to be a bit premature on this and all....but the Pats I am seriously thinking now will go undefeated. After that win over the Cowboys...seriously, who can beat them? Colt's defense isn't good enough to stop Brady, and Pittsburgh's offense isn't good enough to beat up on the NE defense.

Ahhh....football. How I love ya.

Anyone catch Vinny Testaverde starting for the Panthers? FTW? And he got the win too! Didn't throw too bad either. Not fantastic, but not too bad at all.
 
The "Duel In Dallas" was very boring. I fell asleep a few times. Tonight its the Giants vs Falcons. I think the Giants win this easily. But I can't focus on anything because of next Monday. The Colts come to town to face my beloved Jags. In the vBookie I put 1000 on the Jags. Don't think I'm just a homer, even though that probably has something to do with it. I honestly think the Jags will win and take over 1st place in the AFC South.
 
Anyone catch Vinny Testaverde starting for the Panthers? FTW? And he got the win too! Didn't throw too bad either. Not fantastic, but not too bad at all.

That I most certainly did. Being the Panther's die-hard fan that I am, I loved it. And I've stated this elsewhere on the forum, I swear I have.. but his name is no longer Vinny.. lol Its "Vintage" because he looked awesome Sunday.

Granted he wasn't exactly a legend, but he in 4-5 days worth of training looked way better with the Carolina Panther's team.. than David Carr in all of the off-season, training camp, & preseason looked with them period.

Carr had a decent game against the Saints, but Vintage didn't make any mistakes against the Cardinals. He also did, as a couple of those passes could've been picked off.. but I think the offense is getting behind Vintage more so then they have behind Carr.

Finally, on the Carolina front.. our defense finally decided to show up & play. For the past two weeks, our defense has decided to start making statements. Small ones, albeit, but some none the less.
 
Anyone catch Vinny Testaverde starting for the Panthers? FTW? And he got the win too! Didn't throw too bad either. Not fantastic, but not too bad at all.



man i was watching the stats and info they had on Vinny. guy got drafted in 1987. Hes been in this business for 20 years now. unbelievable!
 
That I most certainly did. Being the Panther's die-hard fan that I am, I loved it. And I've stated this elsewhere on the forum, I swear I have.. but his name is no longer Vinny.. lol Its "Vintage" because he looked awesome Sunday.

Granted he wasn't exactly a legend, but he in 4-5 days worth of training looked way better with the Carolina Panther's team.. than David Carr in all of the off-season, training camp, & preseason looked with them period.

Carr had a decent game against the Saints, but Vintage didn't make any mistakes against the Cardinals. He also did, as a couple of those passes could've been picked off.. but I think the offense is getting behind Vintage more so then they have behind Carr.

Finally, on the Carolina front.. our defense finally decided to show up & play. For the past two weeks, our defense has decided to start making statements. Small ones, albeit, but some none the less.

do you find it funny that Carolina is 4-0 on the road and 0-2 at home with their next game being at home against the Colts, continue the trend.....but yeah Testeverde was very good last night (I say night for the eastern folks)...

Chargers and Chiefs are tied for first in the AFC Worst. Looks like the West division winners are going to be 8-8 this year.
 
I told you all along that the Patriots would blow out the Cowboys. I give it to you Dallas fans that yes, for a while there you made it very close, but through out that entire game I had not even the smallest inkling of doubt that New England would win the game. And no matter what way you want to put it, a final score of 48-27 is a blowout. Thats a 21 point difference. Thats a blowout.

Now its funny that you say the Colts will beat the Pats because you know what...they won't. No way in hell. Not unless some drastic injury takes out Tom Brady or Randy Moss.

I don't want to be a bit premature on this and all....but the Pats I am seriously thinking now will go undefeated. After that win over the Cowboys...seriously, who can beat them? Colt's defense isn't good enough to stop Brady, and Pittsburgh's offense isn't good enough to beat up on the NE defense.

Ahhh....football. How I love ya.

Anyone catch Vinny Testaverde starting for the Panthers? FTW? And he got the win too! Didn't throw too bad either. Not fantastic, but not too bad at all.

Its funny how much you love New England and I still like them quite much but I was only picking Dallas because I being an NFC lover (even though I pick AFC in super bowls last few years and won so that makes me a hypocrite and proud of it)...I wanted to see someone anyone contend with the Pats but I must warn you no matter how good they play now...history has shown us that a team, like the Pats in general will slip up when no one sees it coming. They are perfect on offense and extremely talented on defense but the Colts did beat them last year after being down by 20+ points in the AFC Title Game...or did you forget that? Then of course the Colts did beat them in the last 2 regular season matchups. I'd say they are pretty even because the Colts defense is pretty good. Theyre not the greatest but I believe they also would have beaten Dallas....Manning and Brady are this generation's Troy Aikman and Steve Young with Brady being Aikman and Manning being Young. AFC is gonna dominate for at least 3 or 4 years unless someone in the NFC puts up or shuts up. But one thing I will agree with you on is that I hate all the jerks that call the Pats "cheats" and defame their titles....The Pats DESERVED every single one of those titles. They beat the Rams, Panthers and Eagles, all teams with such great hype but never finished the job. But you know the Patriots are NOT USED to being favorites so it will be intersting to see how they handle it. Brady is New England's savior and even without Moss, they would probably still be 6-0 or at worst 5-1. They are that damn good. Their next few opponents leading up to the Colts are all gimme games as long as they don't overlook them. The Colts have a few tough games too (at Jaguars next monday) but like they did 2 years ago, they will sweep their division this year.
 
do you find it funny that Carolina is 4-0 on the road and 0-2 at home with their next game being at home against the Colts, continue the trend.....but yeah Testeverde was very good last night (I say night for the eastern folks)...

I think its incredibly funny, but nothing new. Carolina has always been an awesome "road" team. And honestly, watch some Carolina home games if you can. Their fans jump down their throats when they don't feed Steve Smith the ball EVERY play.. & they also complain when we don't throw when its 3rd-20 in our own inzone.

I love their Black & Blue uniforms, but I respect them on the road. I think it effects them that their own fans tend to boo them if things don't instantly start off great. Which most Carolina games don't start off in their complete favor. A lot of their wins come from behind in the 4th.

man i was watching the stats and info they had on Vinny. guy got drafted in 1987. Hes been in this business for 20 years now. unbelievable!

He hasn't been playing for all 20 of those years though. He was riding the bench in New England last year, & before that.. he was a 3rd string QB playing for the Jets, after Pennington went down, & their back-up went down the next week.

Does anyone else find it odd that Carolina has injured a QB every year for the past 3-4? Last year, they put Chris Simms on the shelve, & almost did the same for McNair. The year before, I'm not sure if they did.. I swear they did, but can't completely remember. And 2 years ago, is when they destroyed Culpepper's knee. Now, this year they've taken out Kurt Warner.. & he'll most likely be out for the season now too, because his injury is just like what Delhomme had, I believe.

Just a thought, does anyone think if Carolina can get to Peyton Manning, if they could injure him enough to where Carolina would get the win? I don't think we have that great of a chance if Manning is picking apart our defense.
 
Xfear man ur Pats are on fire! 49-28 against the Dolphins!! Not that Im surprised! Well played mate! The Pats clinch the division before they play the Colts and then they wont care until the playoffs lol...oh yeah home field advantage.....

ONEBIGWill what did you do on ur bye week? Bye weeks suck. But my Niners again got handled by a better team. A 2-4 start is nothing to be proud of and I certainly am not proud of it by any means. But that is because a few bad bounces have caused them to roll that way. We play the Saints next week which should be good and close. We get Alex Smith back and we're back at home. We need the win next week badly! Plus, the NFRC West sucks so bad that if we win next week's game, we're right back in it.

Did anyone else but me pick the Bills to upset the Ravens? I am proud of that pick. The Bills did me justice. But yeah other than the Niners, I won most of my games today. Anyone else see Titans-Texans? Good lord that was a showcase of the infinite points.
 
Xfear man ur Pats are on fire! 49-28 against the Dolphins!! Not that Im surprised! Well played mate! The Pats clinch the division before they play the Colts and then they wont care until the playoffs lol...oh yeah home field advantage.....

ONEBIGWill what did you do on ur bye week? Bye weeks suck. But my Niners again got handled by a better team. A 2-4 start is nothing to be proud of and I certainly am not proud of it by any means. But that is because a few bad bounces have caused them to roll that way. We play the Saints next week which should be good and close. We get Alex Smith back and we're back at home. We need the win next week badly! Plus, the NFRC West sucks so bad that if we win next week's game, we're right back in it.

Did anyone else but me pick the Bills to upset the Ravens? I am proud of that pick. The Bills did me justice. But yeah other than the Niners, I won most of my games today. Anyone else see Titans-Texans? Good lord that was a showcase of the infinite points.


I think the bills games wasnt even that big of an upset, The Ravens offense is atrocious, especially with Boller the QB. The Bills did what they needed to do and was score atleast 17 points because the Ravens offense can not score that many pts to begin with.

Tom Brady, Moss, Welker is an unstoppable connection. Brady six td passes and a perfect qb rating, and a good game from both Welker, and Moss. The Pats look like the best team in football and honestly i see them running away :wave:, i see there only threat being the Steelers and that is not because of where i am from, i just cant see Moss running across the middle and i can see Brady having trouble with the 3-4 because in the past he has shown some little problems not to say he hasnt over come those because he is that good. But i see the Steelers losing that game but it will be close because the Steelers got that Good defense and they will smack the PATS defense in the mouth and have hard nose football. There secondary has improved since the one time former Defensive backs coach from TB took over the head coaching job. The Steelers are a force to be reckoned with but i still see the Pats winning because Moss, Welker and Brady is just to much. But i see my upset special is taking place right now, Minn over Dallas. Also i expect the Monday night game to be good also because the Jags usually play the Colts well and Garrard just doesnt make costly mistakes like Leftwich used too. ok my upset didnt happen but the game was at home for them Cowboys :(
 
I didn't even need to watch the game today to know that my Pats won. I watched it anyways. :D

The score was freakin 42-7 at halftime! Thats unbelievable! Brady had FIVE TDs in that half! I honestly thought that if they kept Brady in the rest of the way, no doubt he would break the record for most TDs in a single game. Unbelievable. Brady already has more TDs this year then he did ALL of last year! He's on pace to break Peyton's record 49 TDs too! This is just absolutely RIDICULIOUS!

Miami did good against NE's second stringers though. They scored a bit on the backups. Then again those were the backups.

As I've been saying since day one people: 16-0. The Pats will do it this year. I promise you. We're already getting a spot ready in Foxboro for the Super Bowl 42 trophy. :D
 
I saw Brady's post game interview...that guy cleans up fast after tearing up the dolphins...I said in my contest that if the Pats lost, I would go sky diving, o well no sky diving for me.

I still have to respectfully disagree with you Xfear...the Pats are really good and this is nothing against them but in today's NFL, no one wins all their games....no one...the Pats still have the Colts and Steelers to contend with and those games are no gimmes. The Pats themselves have said they are only focusing on each game one game at a time in their pursuit for their 4th super bowl title (4th in 7)......

As of now, all time Super Bowl leaders are the Dallas Cowboys, the pittsburgh Steelers and my beloved 49ers with 5. The Pats should join them all very soon...at least until the Niners start winning eventually and make it back to the big game.

I bet the Colts were even watching the Pats play the last 2 sundays they haven't played so they got a chance to scout New England before they meet in a few weeks. Manning vs Brady is always good...when the Cols and Pats play its like a warzone...

On the Colts side: QB-Manning, RB-Addai, WR-Harrison, WR-Clark, CB-Sanders
On the Pats side: QB-Brady, RB-Mahoney, WR-Moss, WR-Stalworth, WR-Kyle Brady

The heavyweight fight that everyone wants to see. I cannot wait for November 4th!
 
I saw Brady's post game interview...that guy cleans up fast after tearing up the dolphins...I said in my contest that if the Pats lost, I would go sky diving, o well no sky diving for me.

I still have to respectfully disagree with you Xfear...the Pats are really good and this is nothing against them but in today's NFL, no one wins all their games....no one...the Pats still have the Colts and Steelers to contend with and those games are no gimmes. The Pats themselves have said they are only focusing on each game one game at a time in their pursuit for their 4th super bowl title (4th in 7)......

As of now, all time Super Bowl leaders are the Dallas Cowboys, the pittsburgh Steelers and my beloved 49ers with 5. The Pats should join them all very soon...at least until the Niners start winning eventually and make it back to the big game.

I bet the Colts were even watching the Pats play the last 2 sundays they haven't played so they got a chance to scout New England before they meet in a few weeks. Manning vs Brady is always good...when the Cols and Pats play its like a warzone...

On the Colts side: QB-Manning, RB-Addai, WR-Harrison, WR-Clark, CB-Sanders
On the Pats side: QB-Brady, RB-Mahoney, WR-Moss, WR-Stalworth, WR-Kyle Brady

The heavyweight fight that everyone wants to see. I cannot wait for November 4th!

Yes, i could agree with you on the Steelers until about an hour ago. Ben played good kept the team in the game drove down the field for a game tying field goal and the defense played terrible, and the offensive line is so bad Ben has too scramble for his life. You couldnt ask for more than what they gave but the blame has to go to the defense for poorly countering the west coast offense. Ben played good but turned the Ball over but he single handedly kept them in the game and drove them down there for a game tying touchdown.

I disagree though usually Peyton plays pretty bad when he plays against the patriots imo. he horries and tries to do stuff he can't and he easily buckles under pressure and makes awful decisions. Yeah you also forgot about Ben Watson, he is more of a threat than Kyle Brady. But imo i see the Pats losing atleast one game because of either benching starters or just one game just doesnt go there way. Everything has gone there way thats why i believe something bad has to come sooner or later, which i hope it does to cool of the Bardy-Moss, Brady=Welker connection that seems unstoppable.
 
Yes, i could agree with you on the Steelers until about an hour ago. Ben played good kept the team in the game drove down the field for a game tying field goal and the defense played terrible, and the offensive line is so bad Ben has too scramble for his life. You couldnt ask for more than what they gave but the blame has to go to the defense for poorly countering the west coast offense. Ben played good but turned the Ball over but he single handedly kept them in the game and drove them down there for a game tying touchdown.

I disagree though usually Peyton plays pretty bad when he plays against the patriots imo. he horries and tries to do stuff he can't and he easily buckles under pressure and makes awful decisions. Yeah you also forgot about Ben Watson, he is more of a threat than Kyle Brady. But imo i see the Pats losing atleast one game because of either benching starters or just one game just doesnt go there way. Everything has gone there way thats why i believe something bad has to come sooner or later, which i hope it does to cool of the Bardy-Moss, Brady=Welker connection that seems unstoppable.

I wouldn't take today's loss too badly if I were you. The Broncos were in desperate mode so its not so bad. The Ravens suck badly on offense this year and the Bengals and browns won't challenge so the Steel Crew are in good condition.

Peyton has a 3 game winning streak against the Pats so I have more faith in him to end the perfect season than anyone else. The Niners played horribly again...it just has to get better because it cannot get worse. Thank God we play in the NFC Worst. Were still alive as long as we win 4 of our next 6 games at least.

I saw on ur profile that ur 21st b-day is like 2 months before mine dude...when were both 21 and I go to PN Im gonna search u out and were gonna go get drunk while watching some football at the local bar...thats a guarandamntee.....or u could come to california and watch at our bars with all the wonderfully dressed waitresses (all hot) serving us food and drinks...ah the life.

Anyways I went 10-3 this week with a sleeper pick (Colts over Jags) tomorrow so we'll see how things go.
 
I wouldn't take today's loss too badly if I were you. The Broncos were in desperate mode so its not so bad. The Ravens suck badly on offense this year and the Bengals and browns won't challenge so the Steel Crew are in good condition.

Peyton has a 3 game winning streak against the Pats so I have more faith in him to end the perfect season than anyone else. The Niners played horribly again...it just has to get better because it cannot get worse. Thank God we play in the NFC Worst. Were still alive as long as we win 4 of our next 6 games at least.

I saw on ur profile that ur 21st b-day is like 2 months before mine dude...when were both 21 and I go to PN Im gonna search u out and were gonna go get drunk while watching some football at the local bar...thats a guarandamntee.....or u could come to california and watch at our bars with all the wonderfully dressed waitresses (all hot) serving us food and drinks...ah the life.

Anyways I went 10-3 this week with a sleeper pick (Colts over Jags) tomorrow so we'll see how things go.

I am sorry, but that was a horrible loss for the Steelers, to be considered legit those are the games you need to WIN. They didnt and for once we can blame the defense for not stepping up. My theory is that Polamalu is overrated because he cant cover and he has no sense of whats going on besides running around like a fool. The good news is Ben played good even with TWO INTS and a fumble

Not to sound bad but just because the Colts have won three straight doesn't necessarily mean that Peyton and the bunch play "Great" but they do play good enough to win which all that matters. But i still think the Pats are too good on both sides of the ball and that is really something the Colts are not.

The 49'ers dont look so good, Smith is injured i believe but IMO he wasnt playing to good any way. But he is young so i wonder if he will live up to the hype of an early first round QB. I care because i am a 49'er fan on the west coast. Loved Rice and Young. i know the Ravens arent good on the Offense but if they play the Steelers like last year the Burgh is in trouble because there offensive line is horrible. Ben has pressure in his face even against a bad line. Just see the Cardinals or $9'ers game. The season is still young but i can only hope for the best.
 
So you're a Niners fan or a Steelers fan? Im confused. So where do you live in Pennsylvania or California? Well it is eraly in the season and for anyone to get cocky about their team (cough...Xfear..cough) really is jumping the shark to me. The Steelers had a bad game but you know and I know that they can beat the Broncos on the road. The Steel Crew still own the Browns, own the Bengals and if they master the Ravens, then the division is theirs for the taking. The Steel Crew's best bet for a first round opponent would be date with the Colts (why you ask)....remember a few years ago, the Colts lost to the Steel Crew at the RCA Dome...The Pats and the Steelers have always played games tight in their history so I expect nothing less.

As far as the Niners are concerned, yes Alex Smith was hurting but good thing he DIDNT PLAY because he would have been back on the DL. Smith will be back this sunday with a full week of practice under his belt and if they allow him to show he can throw, Im sure Alex Smith can generate results. (Look what he did last year in games at Seattle and Denver)....The Niners can easily win at least 4 of their next 6 games if they limit turnovers and play consistent football....but hey you guys know Im a true fan because I have seen the best (Super Bowl 29 win over the Chargers) and the worst (2-14 record) Niners fan for life whether they win or lose...football always is fun to watch anyways.
 
So you're a Niners fan or a Steelers fan?

I am a die hard Steeler fan but i was always a fan of Young, Rice, and Montana, even though they arent there, that doesnt give me a right not to cheer for a team that i once cheered for unless they were playing the Steelers.

Im confused. So where do you live in Pennsylvania or California?
Pennsylvania, Born and raised

Well it is eraly in the season and for anyone to get cocky about their team (cough...Xfear..cough) really is jumping the shark to me.

He had rights, did you see what they are doing? Moss, Brady, Welker look unstoppable. They destroyed there only test in the NFC in Dallas and that was on the Road.

The Steelers had a bad game but you know and I know that they can beat the Broncos on the road.

They got manhandled on both sides of the ball, there d-line got manhandled and blown off the ball, and Ben was getting pressured every play. that game showed off his ability to create and manage a game even after having a bad first half. He made plays when they needed to and that is all that matters, there Defense is too blame for that game, same with the atrocious 0-line.

The Steel Crew still own the Browns, own the Bengals and if they master the Ravens, then the division is theirs for the taking.
Not if Baltimore did the same thing to there offense as they did last yr. i believe it was combined of 15 sacks in two games. Ben will be scrambling for his life. Thats not good because the Line is worse this year than last year.

The Steel Crew's best bet for a first round opponent would be date with the Colts (why you ask)....remember a few years ago, the Colts lost to the Steel Crew at the RCA Dome...The Pats and the Steelers have always played games tight in their history so I expect nothing less.

There defense is highly overrated, Ben carries that team, you would know if you watch the game. I am not saying you havent seen steeler football, but 30 second high lights never look good for the losing team. The Pats will pass all over us because Polamalu cant cover and our D-Backs are under sized. Moss would have a field day. The only reason why that game would be close if it is, is because of Ben carrying that team and making plays. Also for the Colts there offensive line is good and they would man handle everyone except Hampton or Smith, the two most underrated line man in football, and Peyton has his big game experience now, he would probably have the same success as Brady will and is going to have.

As far as the Niners are concerned, yes Alex Smith was hurting but good thing he DIDNT PLAY because he would have been back on the DL. Smith will be back this sunday with a full week of practice under his belt and if they allow him to show he can throw, Im sure Alex Smith can generate results.

I am not saying Alex Smith wont be good i just dont see him doing anything in the next couple of years, he is quite young, his system in college was a lot different than in San Francisco. NFL is a different experience than CFB. I cant be critical on Smith because the only positive thing on that offense is Frank Gore. A running back cant carry that team so i dont expect results until Smith has a few more years under his belt, and they get players that are accustomed to a west coast system, and when there rookies develop to there potential, but that doesnt happen for many years.
 
I understand everyone is more or less skipping the Colts/Patriots week 8 games, for the much built-up match-up between the two in week 9.. but it slightly pisses me off, just because Carolina COULD upset the Colts.

I'm not exactly saying its a definate, but honestly.. it COULD happen. The Redskins against the Patriots is more or less a gimme, but again, anything is truly possible.. & honestly, if either the Pats or Colts are looking passed this weekends match-ups, they might not have to worry about battling for the final undefeated spot.
 
Thats quite the pipe dream you've got there Will.

Redskins will be completely and totally destroyed by the Patriots. Completely. There is no chance in hell that the Pats will be too "focused on next week" to worry about the game in front of them. Not with Bill Belichick as their coach, if they don't give their 100% to this Skins game, then Belichick will kick their asses all week in practice and generally fuck their lives up. Belichick DEMANDS 100% every game, against every opponent. Thats why he's the best coach in the NFL hands down, easily.

And the Colts-Panthers....normally I'd say sure the Panthers have the chance at the upset, but not with Vinny Testeverde as their starting QB. No way in hell.

Next week....Patriots 38 Colts 24
 
Thats quite the pipe dream you've got there Will.

Redskins will be completely and totally destroyed by the Patriots. Completely. There is no chance in hell that the Pats will be too "focused on next week" to worry about the game in front of them. Not with Bill Belichick as their coach, if they don't give their 100% to this Skins game, then Belichick will kick their asses all week in practice and generally fuck their lives up. Belichick DEMANDS 100% every game, against every opponent. Thats why he's the best coach in the NFL hands down, easily.

And the Colts-Panthers....normally I'd say sure the Panthers have the chance at the upset, but not with Vinny Testeverde as their starting QB. No way in hell.

Next week....Patriots 38 Colts 24


FOX 11 in the LA market is not gonna bother to show the PATS-SKINS game because they know its gonna be a blowout so theyre showing my Niners-vs the Saints....thats gonna be a competitive matchup at leats but the fire situation is gonna screw up the Chargers game against Houston.
 
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