2008-09 NFL Thread

[TheOneBigWill]

He carried that steeler team the whole entire year.

This is the only thing I have to keep debating with you. By saying he carried them, their Superbowl year.. is slapping their Defense & Running game (Bettis & Parker) in the face.

Big Ben did his part in helping them get to where they needed to go, but (& correct me if I'm wrong) didn't Ben go down for a couple weeks with an injury? And if it wasn't for Bettis toward the end of the season, the Steelers may not have went on that "___" (whatever number) win streak. The ONLY thing I can remember Big Ben doing, that saved their season.. is the game saving tackle on Nick Harper, (who was shot/stabbed in the leg, earlier that week) that ended with a bad kick. But even then, it was the Defense that held in that game.

I'll never discount Ben's ability & his HOF outlook, as he's already on the quick path to greatness with his record breaking stats. (youngest QB to win a SB) But he didn't carry them, that year. He helped carry a portion, maybe.. just like Bettis, Parker & their Defense.

But the way you make it sound, is if you're saying he single-handedly carried them.. as if HE scored all the time, & stopped the opposing teams offense. lol

 

[RBH]

Well good points there, but i got to explain this his passer rating should be considered a good accomplishment, he had 12 passes and i believe 3 were for TD's. Thats a touchdown every four passes. which a remarkable feature.

You throw an average Qb behind the offenses that Manning had and your going to be stats machine imo. 3 good receivers, Stokley which is not there anymore, Marvin Harrison, and Reggie Wayne, those are all threats, and to top it off Dallas Clark is also a good threat. Those are four good weapons and to top it off they had Edjerrin James which is five i repeat five threats on the offensive side of the ball.

Getting back to the Superbowl he did throw two ints and had the lowest qb rating of a winning qb in Sb history but they still won the game. His Scramble for a touchdown was a play where he went all out and scored on that play, what was that a player making a big play, a Game Breaker. A play action Qb sneak with all the effort in the world to score. Unlike Mcnabb though Roethlisberger didnt account for 4 turn overs. Quite frankly Ben did not make the huge mistake like Mcnabb did and quite frankly that is a remarkable task. the youngest qb to win a Sb thats what he did. He carried that steeler team the whole entire year. Unlike Mcnabb who towards the end of SB XXX1X played like a coward and Owens carried that team on his shoulders. Roethlisber made plays, can i say the 37 yd pass to Ward, when roethlisberger was scrambling, that was a big play which kept that scoring drive alive. that my friend is a big play and that is what ben accounted for in that game. He made a big play when his team needed too.

in 05, the Steelers did have defense and Bettis and Parker but when is the Steelers defense not good? Ever since the Bradshaw days the Steel Crew has been known as welll.....the Steel Crew...I agree with you Brian Becker (I got a friend named Brian Beck so thats a funny coincedence) that Big Ben played like a franchise QB in the Super Bowl year and while the defense did most of the work in hte divisional game against the Colts, the offense came alive in the AFC Title Game against the Broncos (I lost a bet on that)....I think that stipid motorcycle accident hurt him a little (and the fact that he wasn't wearing a helmet, not exactly smart is it?). Big Ben has seemingly recovered and they beat up my 49ers in the 4th quarter of the last game so theres hope for him after all....as of right now...Brady, Manning and Farve are the most widely known QBs for all their accomplishments...Big Ben needs to carry6 the Steelers into the playoffs every year and not throw so many interceptions. (Like last year) Then and only then will he be solidified as a franchise QB....Marino was great but didnt win a title (thanks to my 49ers by the way)......I will always consider him on of the greatest and if I had the chance to meet him and talk football I definately would. This weekend the Steelers play the Cards so lets see if Big Ben can tear them up like most ppl are expecting him to.

 

[BooCocky]

in 05, the Steelers did have defense and Bettis and Parker but when is the Steelers defense not good? Ever since the Bradshaw days the Steel Crew has been known as welll.....the Steel Crew...I agree with you Brian Becker (I got a friend named Brian Beck so thats a funny coincedence) that Big Ben played like a franchise QB in the Super Bowl year and while the defense did most of the work in hte divisional game against the Colts, the offense came alive in the AFC Title Game against the Broncos (I lost a bet on that)....I think that stipid motorcycle accident hurt him a little (and the fact that he wasn't wearing a helmet, not exactly smart is it?). Big Ben has seemingly recovered and they beat up my 49ers in the 4th quarter of the last game so theres hope for him after all....as of right now...Brady, Manning and Farve are the most widely known QBs for all their accomplishments...Big Ben needs to carry6 the Steelers into the playoffs every year and not throw so many interceptions. (Like last year) Then and only then will he be solidified as a franchise QB....Marino was great but didnt win a title (thanks to my 49ers by the way)......I will always consider him on of the greatest and if I had the chance to meet him and talk football I definately would. This weekend the Steelers play the Cards so lets see if Big Ben can tear them up like most ppl are expecting him to.

There is some where i agree but also disagree, yes the steelers defense is what drives them to win games, but quite frankly if Ben wasnt there Qb they wouldnt win. He is a game breaker. Now about the interception part is where i disagree, to my GB packer Knowledge Brett Favre has his fair share of bad games and years in that regards, 29 ints, 23 ints in two consecutive years and had a yr of 24. But he is considered successful, isnt he? IMO yes. He has had in his career to my knowledge over 260 INTs. Thats Pretty high for one of the greatest Qb's in NFL history.

You made a valid point with Parker and Bettis but quite frankly you stick an Average Qb behind the steelers line and you don't make the playoffs. Tommy Maddox for instance is an average Qb and quite frankly the same team on both sides and he couldnt win.

Yes the motorcycle thing was stupid imo, but that destroyed his head a little bit and made him a better person, he thought he was invincible until he got a serious injury in which woke him up. Big Ben has carried that team, I am not saying the Defense didnt help a bit but in those regards for the most part they arent putting points on the board. Yes that year there defense was " off the hook" but with out the play making ability of Ben they dont make the super Bowl.

I cant argue about Brady nor Manning because i no there better, but only time will tell. I am not stating that Ben is going to throw for nearly as many yards but will probably have a higher winning percentage. See winning percentage for career in that regards. Ben went 13-0 in his rookie season, 14-1 including the playoffs. What else so far in his career makes him deserve to be under a microscope and not be considered top 3 or 5 Qb in the NFL. He is a winner and his Winning Percentage will say that.

Also to go on to the ONEBIGWILLS statement i never meant it to sound that he carried the team, but in the regards of his ability with out him they dont win, its basically a fact if you look at there record with him and without him. Yes the defense and there running ability is a key ingredient in there success but never count out the Qb. His ability is bar none and his winning percentage shows that. IMO without Ben as there Qb in 05 they do not win or even make it to the SB. to throw this out there big ben is 37-12 won/loss record (including 5-1 in the playoffs) as of 9-23-07. If my math is right that is a 75% winning percentage. Very good for a guy going into his 4th season, and if you exclude the playoffs his win/loss record 32-11 and once again if my math is right thats close to 75%.

 

[RBH]

Here are all my picks with reasons for this week's football games.

Week 4

HOUSTON TEXANS (2-1) VS ATLANTA FALCONS (0-3)
(TEXANS; I AM SURE THE FALCONS WILL BE POISED TO WIN THEIR FIRST GAME BUT I SEE POTENTIAL IN A TEXANS TEAM THAT STUCK BY THE COLTS THROUGH THE WHOLE GAME. SHAUB BEATS HIS FORMER TEAM IN THIS ONE.)
YOUR PICK:

NEW YORK JETS (1-2) VS BUFFALO BILLS (0-3)
(JETS; CHAD PENNINGTON IS BACK AND THE JETS ALWAYS SEEM TO WIN IN BUFFALO. THE BILLS ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A GOOD SEASON.)
YOUR PICK:

BALTIMORE RAVENS (2-1) VS CLEVELAND BROWNS (1-2)
(BROWNS; UPSET OF THE WEEK! THE BROWNS BARELY LOST TO THE RAIDERS LAST WEEK AND BEAT THE BENGALS A FEW WEEKS AGO. THEY ALWAYS PLAY THE RAVENS CLOSE AND THE RAVENS ARE STRUGGLING THIS SEASON THUS FAR AS THEY ARE BARELY 2-1.)
YOUR PICK:

SAINT LOUIS RAMS (0-3) VS DALLAS COWBOYS (3-0)
(COWBOYS; EXPECT THE COWBOYS TO NOT TAKE THE RAMS SERIOUSLY AND THUS MAKE IT A CLOSE GAME. HOWEVER, THE COWBOYS WILL HAVE JUST ENOUGH TO WIN IT.)
YOUR PICK:

CHICAGO BEARS (1-2) VS DETROIT LIONS (2-1)
(LIONS; THE BEARS ARE PLASTERED WITH INJURIES AND ALWAYS STRUGGLE AT FORD FIELD (EVEN WHEN THEY WIN). THE LIONS ARE LOOKING TO PROTECT THEIR HOME FIELD AND WILL ATTEMPT TO DO SO AGAINST THE BEARS.)
YOUR PICK:

OAKLAND RAIDERS (1-2) VS MIAMI DOLPHINS (0-3)
(DOLPHINS; DOG OF THE WEEK I HAVE NO IDEA WHO WILL WIN BUT MIAMI NEEDS A WIN AND I DONT SEE OAKLAND WINNING 2 IN A ROW.)
YOUR PICK:

GREEN BAY PACKERS (3-0) VS MINNESOTA VIKINGS (1-2)
(PACKERS; SAY IT WITH ME! ALL HAIL BRETT FARVE! THIS MAN IS A GREAT AND WILL ONCE AGAIN PULL OFF A WIN AT THE METRODOME.)
YOUR PICK:

TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS (2-1) VS CAROLINA PANTHERS (2-1)
(PANTHERS; THIS WILL GO DOWN TO THE WIRE WITH THE PANTHERS PULLING OFF A CLOSE WIN.)
YOUR PICK:

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS (2-1) VS SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS (2-1)
(NINERS; THE BATTLE FOR THE DIVISION TITLE! MY NINERS WILL COME THROUGH AT HOME AGAINST THE HATED SEAHAWKS! DON’T BELIEVE ME? WE SWEPT THE HAWKS LAST YEAR AND SHAUN ALEXANDER HAS A BROKEN HAND WHICH HE INTENDS TO PLAY WITH. ENOUGH SAID.)
YOUR PICK:

PITTSBURGH STEELERS (3-0) VS ARIZONA CARDINALS (1-2)
(STEELERS; THE STEEL CREW EARNED MY RESPECT AFTER LAST WEEK AND I ENVISION THEM BEATING ARIZONA THIS WEEK. BIG BEN THROWS A COUPLE HUNDRED YARDS AGAIN.)
YOUR PICK:

DENVER BRONCOS (2-1) VS INDIANAPOLIS COLTS (3-0)
(COLTS; A SMART PERSON WOULD SAY THE BRONCOS CAN UPSET THE COLTS. BUT THEN AGAIN, JAY CUTLER SHOWED THAT THE JAGS AND ANY TEAM COULD EASILY BEAT HIM LAST WEEK. CUTLER IS GOING TO HJAVE TO GROW FAST IF HE WANTS TO BEAT INDY.)
YOUR PICK:

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (1-2) VS SAN DIEGO CHARGERS (1-2)
(CHARGERS; SAN DIEGO RETURNS HOME AND I EXPECT A BIG GAME OUT OF LT. THIS ONE SHOULD BE INTERESTING. THE CHARGERS HAVE WON THE PAST FEW GAMES AT HOME IN THIS SERIES.)
YOUR PICK:

PHILADELPHIA EAGLES (1-2) VS NEW YORK GIANTS (1-2)
(EAGLES; THE EAGLES WERE REVITALIZED LAST WEEK AND WILL BE WELL ON THEIR WAY TO ANOTHER WIN THIS WEEK AGAINST THE GIANTS. THIS WILL BE CLOSE THOUGH.)
YOUR PICK:

MONDAY
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (3-0) VS CINCINNATI BENGALS (1-2)
(PATS; THE BENGALS HAVE NOT IMPRESSED ME AT ALL. THEY BARELY WON GAME 1 AND LOST THEIR LAST 2 IN RIDICULOUS FASHION. THE PATS HAVE BRADY AND MOSS RUNNING THE SHOW. THIS ONE IS AN OFFENSIVE JAUGGERNUT.)
YOUR PICK

 

[BooCocky]

this seems like a good idea, here is what i believe is going down in WEEK 4

HOUSTON TEXANS (2-1) VS ATLANTA FALCONS (0-3)
(I see this as being a a struggle for both teams, Ahman Green and Andre Johnson are a little roughed up but i still dont know if they are playing, even if they are they cant be 100%. Now the Falcons are bad and Joe Montana in his prime couldn't save them. I see a 27-13 victory for all mighty Schaub and his troops.)

NEW YORK JETS (1-2) VS BUFFALO BILLS (0-3)
(even though none of these teams are going to have a good season, I see Jp Losman being a bust and the Jets have Chad Pennington back, even though thats really nothing to brag about.I see the Jets winning 17-14 on a last second Field Goal.)

BALTIMORE RAVENS (2-1) VS CLEVELAND BROWNS (1-2)
( Some people are saying upset special in the making, i dont consider that as a an upset since they are division rivals and sometimes play tough. I think Mcgahee will have a field day. I see the Browns picking up the victory. Yeah the Old Browns. 28-10 Baltimore.

SAINT LOUIS RAMS (0-3) VS DALLAS COWBOYS (3-0)
(I see Tony Romo and the troops putting up a big game especially with T.O. I do not see the Rams offense coming out of there slump and i cant see the game being close. Crybowys 35-21)

CHICAGO BEARS (1-2) VS DETROIT LIONS (2-1)
(Well i see this game being a complete bore fest. Da bears are plagued with Injuries but the Lions D is atrocious. I see the Lions in a close one. 20-17.

OAKLAND RAIDERS (1-2) VS MIAMI DOLPHINS (0-3)
(Daunte Culpepper is Starting today and a see a good game coming from him. Miami Looks bad so i see a win for da raiders.

GREEN BAY PACKERS (3-0) VS MINNESOTA VIKINGS (1-2)
(This game is going to be a landmark game in the illustrious career of Brett Favre, I see him breaking the passing Td record, but i see the Minnesota vikings pulling out a cheap win in my upset pick of the week.

TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS (2-1) VS CAROLINA PANTHERS (2-1)
(This game is going to be a stepping stone in David Carrs career, if he has a good game and continues to do so he is going to be the QB when Jake Delhomme retires. I see another close game but i see Carr doing enough to win the game.)

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS (2-1) VS SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS (2-1)
(This right here could be the battle for the division title, but without Vernon Davis i can not see the 49'ers winning this game. I see 24-17 win favoring the Seahawks.)

PITTSBURGH STEELERS (3-0) VS ARIZONA CARDINALS (1-2)
(The Steelers should handle the Cardinals especially if Anquan Boldin is injured because then the good Steelers defense can focus the D on the former Pitt great Larry Fitzgerald. I see the Steelers in a 35-21 victory. Everybody all Hail Ben Roethlisberger and Fast Willie Parker.)

DENVER BRONCOS (2-1) VS INDIANAPOLIS COLTS (3-0)
(The Colts in the easy pick here especially at home. Jay Cutler hasn't looked to delightful this year and what do i have to say about the Colts besides a nice Peyton to Marvin combo and a Nice Peyton to Wayne combo, anyways every time the Bronco's play the Colts they get walloped. I see a 41-17 victory for the Colts.)

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (1-2) VS SAN DIEGO CHARGERS (1-2)
(A battle of the division Foes, LT should have a field day and can possibly get his running back on track. I don't see the Chefs putting up much of a fight because i see Rivers even though i hate to say it, and Gates and LT are going to have there blow out game. Also it helps playing in front of your home crowd.)

PHILADELPHIA EAGLES (1-2) VS NEW YORK GIANTS (1-2)
(The Eagles; This game i can see a close game or a total blow out. Dont expect a perfect passer rating by Mcnabb again but expect him to put up 300 yds especially because Westbrook is banged up. Also dont expect Curtis to put up about 200 yds receiving but i expect him to have a solid game while the Eagles pic up the Victory on the Road.)

MONDAY
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (3-0) VS CINCINNATI BENGALS (1-2)
(PATS; In a one sided affair, you can expect a shoot out but in another big game like always you can expect Carson Palmer to choke when he forth Quarter comes around. Expect over 300 yds by Brady and expect a nice game by Randy Moss. But you can expect a solid game from Carson but expect several INT's. The Pats in a one sided affair. Super Bowl baby.)

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Week 4 Picks:

HOUSTON TEXANS (2-1) VS ATLANTA FALCONS (0-3)
Projected Winner & Reason: Atlanta looked strong, (for once) through the air last week against Carolina. But dispite that, I don't see Atlanta doing it again. Division games are always tougher.. & the only foreseeable aspect of this game is Matt Shaub returning to his old team, & showing them every reason why he should've stayed. Houston Texans

NEW YORK JETS (1-2) VS BUFFALO BILLS (0-3)
Projected Winner & Reason: Who wants it more? The Jets have got to be the overrated team of the year. (Saints, excluded, of course) A.F.C., anyways. I thin Lynch will finally have a breakout game, & the start of Edwards could be a shock. (Him against the Pats is not worth credit, thats like throwing meat to Lions) It'll ride on the shoulders of Lynch, with Edwards being a deciding factor, however.. I like the Jets in this one, especially with a patch-work defense by the Bills. New York Jets

BALTIMORE RAVENS (2-1) VS CLEVELAND BROWNS (1-2)
Projected Winner & Reason: Jamal Lewis was a dominating rushing back for the Ravens, but never anymore so, than against the Browns. I guess that means McGahee is a breakout starter of the week in fantasy play. This game will come down to defense, & the Browns don't have one. Lewis may be returning to his old team, but he won't be welcomed & he won't be missed. Baltimore Ravens

SAINT LOUIS RAMS (0-3) VS DALLAS COWBOYS (3-0)
Projected Winner & Reason: This may of been more of a challenging game for Dallas, had Steven Jackson been playing better, not to mention - starting. Bulger is 3 sacks (tops) away from being taken out of the game, for the next several weeks. Broken ribs won't help your team. Meanwhile, St. Louis loves to allow rushers to gash them.. Barber loves to gash.. perfect fit. Dallas Cowboys

CHICAGO BEARS (1-2) VS DETROIT LIONS (2-1)
Projected Winner & Reason: Upset pick of the week. If Detroit wins, they continue to follow Green Bay for the lead in the division. But the bigger story is, if Chicago loses, their season could be over before it starts. Greise (sp?) is the mystery. How well will he play, against a Lions D that loves to allow passes? Also, the Bears D has carried them to a Superbowl.. but its currently injured everywhere.. & the Lions have too much talent to not pass EVERY DOWN! Detroit Lions

OAKLAND RAIDERS (1-2) VS MIAMI DOLPHINS (0-3)
Projected Winner & Reason: Another who wants it more game. I like Culpepper to make the Dolphins regret dropping him, dispite it not being a big regret. Defense will play huge rolls on both sides of the ball, & oddly enough, Oakland should get the nod in that catagory. Oakland Raiders

GREEN BAY PACKERS (3-0) VS MINNESOTA VIKINGS (1-2)
Projected Winner & Reason: Hard hitting game of the week. Both teams play hard against each other, regardless of how much one or the other sucks. Taylor will start over Peterson, at RB for MN. (mistake or not?) Minnesota has a great run-stopping D, but the only downside is Green Bay doesn't run so much as throw.. & Brett won't allow his (possible) last year in the N.F.L. be one without him passing 80% of the time. If Minnesota & Chicago win, this division is once again up for grabs.. but if Green Bay wins, they still hold a nice lead in the division. I'd like to say Minnesota, & I hope so - because my Wife loves them, however if I was a betting man.. I'd go Green Bay Packers

TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS (2-1) VS CAROLINA PANTHERS (2-1)
Projected Winner & Reason: Who wants to win the division? This game will possibly be an early look on who will do it. With New Orleans & Atlanta fighting for last place, Carolina & Tampa Bay will battle for first. For me to pick against Carolina would be a dagger in the heart, but David Carr will start. (98% fact) This game will come down to which Defense can hold, & lately Carolina is allowing a lot, A LOT of passing yards.. which isn't good. Overall, I have to go with my team. Carolina Panthers

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS (2-1) VS SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS (2-1)
Projected Winner & Reason: Another deciding factor on who wants to take an early lead in the division. Winner becomes sole owner of the spot. Last year, the 49ers destroyed Seattle (I believe twice) but Alex Smith & Frank Gore aren't playing like they did last year. Alexander on the other hand, is.. broken bone & all. If the Niners can hold, Defensively & the Niners can get Gore to slash the Hawks again, you've pretty much found your winner.. but until the Niners prove they can match offense, I'm going with Seattle Seahawks

PITTSBURGH STEELERS (3-0) VS ARIZONA CARDINALS (1-2)
Projected Winner & Reason: The *New* Head Coach of the Cardinals will face the team he knows, should that pose a threat? Doubtful. Willie Parker will run, Blitzburg will hold, & Big Ben will fill in the holes & make the plays he needs to make. The Edge will hit a wall, & with the one-two punch of Leinart & Warner, it'll only allow Pittsburgh to get chances to pick off both of them. Pittsburgh Steelers

DENVER BRONCOS (2-1) VS INDIANAPOLIS COLTS (3-0)
Projected Winner & Reason: I have no idea why these two are so close. Manning will have problems with the CBs, but its Manning. Overall, I see Addai running like crazy & only if Travis Henry can keep up, will the Broncos stay close. You still don't pick against the Superbowl Champs, at least not this week. Indianapolis Colts

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (1-2) VS SAN DIEGO CHARGERS (1-2)
Projected Winner & Reason: Another division game, & the Chiefs apparently have always given the Chargers tough games.. but come on, L.T. is getting pissed about not having a great game yet.. today will be the L.T. show, & KC won't be able to stop it forever. Also, the Chargers D needs to prove they aren't weak, like they've shown in the first 3 weeks. San Diego Chargers

PHILADELPHIA EAGLES (1-2) VS NEW YORK GIANTS (1-2)
Projected Winner & Reason: McNabb, Westbrook & Curtis went crazy against the Lions. The Giants D will look much the same, only difference is Westbrook most likely won't run AS much. I think the Giants will attempt covering Curtis, allowing Reggie Brown to have a breakout game. Philadelphia Eagles

MONDAY
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (3-0) VS CINCINNATI BENGALS (1-2)
Projected Winner & Reason: Offense v. Offense, only difference.. New England has a Defense too. Palmer will be one sided, more than usual with Rudi sidelined. N.E. will blitz in spurts, but overall.. I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped everyone back into coverage. Moss & Brady on the other hand, should put up nice numbers, again. New England Patriots

 

[RBH]

I went 5-7...I cant believe it!! My Niners mucked up on offense again!!!!! Arrg! Did anyone see the browns upset the Ravens? Sweet! I saw that coming. The Cowboys again look to be the best NFC Team but they are horrendus in the 1st quarter. My Niners got their asses kicked 23-3 thanks to penalties and an amenic offense. If our offense could score at least 20 points every game we would have a 3-1 record by now. Oh well next week we got to change the gameplan. We got to attack the Ravens early and often. Plus, we have to avoid getting sacked. The Hawks sacked us 7 times!!!!

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I went 6-6, & there is no way anyone but Cardinals fans that could've saw them defeating Pittsburgh like that.

Also, I understand the Ravens offense isn't impressive, but at what point did their Defense decide to not show up to play? Maybe they thought it was their bye week?!

I knew Carolina wouldn't play well without Delhomme, but it doesn't help that our Defense just is NOT there this season. Really, we gave up 14 points on 3 drives. We have NO blitz rush, our line can't get to the QB, & our CBs & LBs just can't seem to contain the WRs, as TB gashed us all over the place. The only "up" side, in a bad way.. is Cadillac Williams got injured & its most likely a season ending injury. Carolina has New Orleans next week, so hopefully our Defense can show up & Delhomme can come back. (rumors are he may need surgery now, that'd suck) TB has the Colts, so if Carolina can win & TB loses, it'll be back to tied for the division lead. (minus TB holding the tie breaker via their win)

I completely called the Lions beating the Bears. Goodluck to the Bears if they even attempt going back to Grossman, even though Griese wasn't terrible.. he just broke down when he had to win the game. They never put him in to "win," they just put him in to "hold."

As far as the Chargers go.. okay, now "I'LL" jump on the "WTF" band-wagon. A rookie WR tears up your Defense, & you allow a team to rally from behind & beat you.. even AFTER L.T. found his groove.. thats completely messed up, & the Chargers won't make the playoffs, unless the other 3 in the division just completely break down. (Poor Coach Turner)

I heard Marvin Harrison got injured, any word on how bad? Also, I noticed Alex Smith was injured too.. whats going on?

 

[X]

Ben Roethlisberger (I've never spelt his last name, because I don't know if I spell it correctly) IS a franchise QB. Look at the Steelers outline. Big, rough, tough, built. Big Ben is THE QB of Pittsburgh, right down to his body size & structure. I'll always think of Ben when I think of QBs for the Steelers, because he is the imbodiment (sp?) of that team. A QB is the "heart & soul" of a team, & while I will NEVER take back the fact that Pittsburgh is run-first, defense-second, pass-third.. that doesn't mean I won't forever hold Ben as the best QB for the Steelers, & the future of the Franchise.

I would have to disagree with that. For me Ben has in no way proven himself to be the ultimate Steelers QB. That is a total and complete insult to a man by the name of TERRY F'N BRADSHAW. This man led the Steelers to FOUR Super Bowls in his time there. FOUR. That man will always define the Steelers for me, call me old-fashioned NFL, but its true.

As for Peyton Manning being the greatest QB of all time...I'd also disagree with that. That title to me will always belong to Johnny Unitas. This man put up the kind of stats Peyton does now in a league that was SO much different then the current one in SO many ways. Peyton may one day prove himself to be the best, but he's still got a little while to go before we can hand him the Best QB crown.

What a shocker? The Patriots destroyed the Bengals. Just as I told you all they would. Seriously people....jump on the bandwagon. The Patriots---Super Bowl 42 Champions. The Colts defense isn't good enough to stop the Brady-Moss connection, the Chargers are dead in the water, theres really no other AFC threat here. Anyone who doesn't think the Pats are going to the Super Bowl this year is being simply naive. I'm still saying it just like I did the first week of the season, the Super Bowl is going to be New England vs. Dallas. Two best teams in the NFL right now.

And wow did Donovan McNabb prove himself to be complete shit once again. Every time I defend him he lets me down. I am no longer defending McNabb. He's truly lost his touch. He was once one of the premier QBs in the league, possibly the best at one time, but now he's just so damn inconsistent. One week he's great, the next he's terrible.

I was pretty surprised by Daunte Culpepper as well. I keep telling people...put Daunte in as the QB of the Raiders...and they will win games. Everyone just dismissed the Raiders because of the last few seasons, but watch out, they've got a fantastic running game and are actually FIRST in the NFL in rushing yards, their defense is usually and should become very solid, though has underperformed so far this year. Add a guy like Culpepper to QB and they'll win some games people.

 

[RBH]

I would have to disagree with that. For me Ben has in no way proven himself to be the ultimate Steelers QB. That is a total and complete insult to a man by the name of TERRY F'N BRADSHAW. This man led the Steelers to FOUR Super Bowls in his time there. FOUR. That man will always define the Steelers for me, call me old-fashioned NFL, but its true.

As for Peyton Manning being the greatest QB of all time...I'd also disagree with that. That title to me will always belong to Johnny Unitas. This man put up the kind of stats Peyton does now in a league that was SO much different then the current one in SO many ways. Peyton may one day prove himself to be the best, but he's still got a little while to go before we can hand him the Best QB crown.

What a shocker? The Patriots destroyed the Bengals. Just as I told you all they would. Seriously people....jump on the bandwagon. The Patriots---Super Bowl 42 Champions. The Colts defense isn't good enough to stop the Brady-Moss connection, the Chargers are dead in the water, theres really no other AFC threat here. Anyone who doesn't think the Pats are going to the Super Bowl this year is being simply naive. I'm still saying it just like I did the first week of the season, the Super Bowl is going to be New England vs. Dallas. Two best teams in the NFL right now.

And wow did Donovan McNabb prove himself to be complete shit once again. Every time I defend him he lets me down. I am no longer defending McNabb. He's truly lost his touch. He was once one of the premier QBs in the league, possibly the best at one time, but now he's just so damn inconsistent. One week he's great, the next he's terrible.

I was pretty surprised by Daunte Culpepper as well. I keep telling people...put Daunte in as the QB of the Raiders...and they will win games. Everyone just dismissed the Raiders because of the last few seasons, but watch out, they've got a fantastic running game and are actually FIRST in the NFL in rushing yards, their defense is usually and should become very solid, though has underperformed so far this year. Add a guy like Culpepper to QB and they'll win some games people.

Dude are you as excited as I am for Week 6 which will be Patriots vs Cowboys at texas Stadium? Wow one of those teams no longer undefeated after those games.

The Steelers are a pretty good team despite the loss atArizona they will crush the Hawks this sunday with blitzing defense and decent offense. The Cowboys and the Packers are the NFC right now and it should be interesting to see how Brett Farve plays down the stretch.

 

[BooCocky]

I would have to disagree with that. For me Ben has in no way proven himself to be the ultimate Steelers QB. That is a total and complete insult to a man by the name of TERRY F'N BRADSHAW. This man led the Steelers to FOUR Super Bowls in his time there. FOUR. That man will always define the Steelers for me, call me old-fashioned NFL, but its true..

Let me say this though on behalf of any Steeler fan. Terry Bradshaw won four Super Bowls was also carried by 9 HOF players including Terry Bradshaw and a HOF coach. Ben Roethlisberger at the time of his Superbowl victory they had one HOF in Jerome Bettis. What Terry Bradshaw did in that day in age is a lot harder to now because of Free Agency and the Salary Cap. Those 10 HOF'ers were there throughout the Four Superbowl wins.

When Roethlisberger and the Steelers won the Super Bowl the had to win six straight games and 3 playoff games on the road which was a task never done before. Comparing Roethlisberger to Bradshaw is not an insult because Bradshaw had a very very good supporting cast the time he won the superbowl. The Steelers had 9 hof players and several others deserving of the honor. Bradshaw had a cast like no other in his tenure in Pittsburgh, so saying, comparing Ben to Terry is an insult is an opinion because Terry Bradshaw didnt have to put up with new players coming in every year because there wasnt no free agency nor Salary Cap. Ben Roethlisber is a franchise quarterback and if he wins 2-3 Super Bowls it would be a much larger accomplishment than Bradshaws 4 because of the Free Agency market. Roethlisberger is a winner just like Bradshaw and to say it was and an insult is redundant because this is only Roethlisbergers forth year and Bradshaw won his four super bowls over a 13 year career without Free Agency or the Salary Cap.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I would have to disagree with that. For me Ben has in no way proven himself to be the ultimate Steelers QB. That is a total and complete insult to a man by the name of TERRY F'N BRADSHAW. This man led the Steelers to FOUR Super Bowls in his time there. FOUR. That man will always define the Steelers for me, call me old-fashioned NFL, but its true.

I'm not ever discounting history, or the past. But you can't compare Ben to Terry, as times have changed. Terry in his prime handled rough & tough, hard hitting, smash-mouth football.. Ben right now, doesn't deal with that as much, but has to think more than Terry probably ever had to. Terry had to do 2 things.. 1. Don't get hit. 2. Toss the ball to the target.

I'm not saying that was as easy as it sounds, but today's Defensive schemes are a lot worse than yester-years. Back then, it was "you cover him, you blitz him" type of play-action. Today, its all packages & coverages.

As for Peyton Manning being the greatest QB of all time...I'd also disagree with that. That title to me will always belong to Johnny Unitas. This man put up the kind of stats Peyton does now in a league that was SO much different then the current one in SO many ways. Peyton may one day prove himself to be the best, but he's still got a little while to go before we can hand him the Best QB crown.

Another example of how you can't compare the past to the present. Peyton knows how to disassemble Defensive schemes. Unitas had to find the target, not get hit or hurt, & throw the man the ball. (Again, easier said than done, but today's Defenses are better put together & more complex than the past)

What a shocker? The Patriots destroyed the Bengals. Just as I told you all they would. Seriously people....jump on the bandwagon. The Patriots---Super Bowl 42 Champions. The Colts defense isn't good enough to stop the Brady-Moss connection, the Chargers are dead in the water, theres really no other AFC threat here. Anyone who doesn't think the Pats are going to the Super Bowl this year is being simply naive. I'm still saying it just like I did the first week of the season, the Super Bowl is going to be New England vs. Dallas. Two best teams in the NFL right now.

Being a Carolina Panther fan.. I'm quickly adjusting & accepting the fact that this year's season may very well be over before it technically starts. Delhomme is likely out, & if he does come back.. I give him one or two full games before his elbow goes out again. Therefore, unless David Carr & our Defense step up.. I doubt we'll be seeing Arizona.. (except for in 1 1/2weeks)

Now, that being said.. yes.. I highly expect New England to see the Superbowl, but I'm still not sold on Dallas. Or Green Bay, for that matter. I won't say either team is not impressive, by far, both are.. but both teams also have big histories of blowing up as the season moves along.

Dallas has one major issue.. its what I'd like to call the "Carolina issue." That is, they have one great WR & a lot of iffy ones. They have a nice one-two punch at RB, but sooner or later Defenses will learn to play coverage on T.O. & man to man on every other WR.. & just spy the QB/RBs.

Green Bay is a rough team, with raw talent. Its got no middle, its filled with rookies & vets. I give them all the credit in the world for what they're doing.. but their victory over the Chargers is no longer "impressive" since the Chargers dropped to the Chiefs.

The one thing Dallas & Green Bay have to rely on.. the N.F.C. doesn't have any huge threat under them. Detroit is "flashy" but their Defense needs to get better, & they need to start showing some type of run threat. Granted, 4-5 wide is pretty tough to cover, but throwing the ball is always a risk. Seattle is highly overrated anymore, & I don't really have anything to say about them. Their RB needs to do what Bulger finally did, & stop playing to give his injury time to heal.. otherwise, he'll cost his team in the long run. And the Eagles, Redskins, & Giants are all back & forth teams that show up differently from week to week. Meanwhile, the impressive Tampa Bay Bucs lost a O-Linemen, & their star RB.. not that it'll hurt them.. as they're a Defensive team first, & Garcia is making opponents drop more back then they rush in a blitz.

I see Tampa Bay being the new winner of our division. (unless Carolina can discover themselves & find a new threat opposite of Steve Smith) I see Dallas & Green Bay being the N.F.C. Championship, unless either team has a note-worthy breakdown in the playoffs.. which IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE!

 

[BooCocky]

I'm not ever discounting history, or the past. But you can't compare Ben to Terry, as times have changed. Terry in his prime handled rough & tough, hard hitting, smash-mouth football.. Ben right now, doesn't deal with that as much, but has to think more than Terry probably ever had to. Terry had to do 2 things.. 1. Don't get hit. 2. Toss the ball to the target.

Green Bay is a rough team, with raw talent. Its got no middle, its filled with rookies & vets. I give them all the credit in the world for what they're doing.. but their victory over the Chargers is no longer "impressive" since the Chargers dropped to the Chiefs.

The one thing Dallas & Green Bay have to rely on.. the N.F.C. doesn't have any huge threat under them. Detroit is "flashy" but their Defense needs to get better, & they need to start showing some type of run threat. Granted, 4-5 wide is pretty tough to cover, but throwing the ball is always a risk. Seattle is highly overrated anymore, & I don't really have anything to say about them. Their RB needs to do what Bulger finally did, & stop playing to give his injury time to heal.. otherwise, he'll cost his team in the long run. And the Eagles, Redskins, & Giants are all back & forth teams that show up differently from week to week. Meanwhile, the impressive Tampa Bay Bucs lost a O-Linemen, & their star RB.. not that it'll hurt them.. as they're a Defensive team first, & Garcia is making opponents drop more back then they rush in a blitz.

I see Tampa Bay being the new winner of our division. (unless Carolina can discover themselves & find a new threat opposite of Steve Smith) I see Dallas & Green Bay being the N.F.C. Championship, unless either team has a note-worthy breakdown in the playoffs.. which IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE!

Ok, the tackling this day in age is a lot tougher, the guys are more built, they have way more muscle mass and they are just huge in size and there bodily structure. I will Use mean Joe Greene for instance was a 270 lb defensive tackle, Casey Hampton is 325 lbs. 55 pound difference. They play the same position but just in the different set, the 3-4 and the 4-3 in the 70's.

Yes you were correct you really cant compare today to the yesteryear because stats then are not applicable this day in age. But because the size of defensive players in this day in age is just common sense, larger players more powerful, so to say Ben doesnt endure pain like Bradshaw is ridiculous.

The San Diego Chargers are possibly missing Coach Schottenheimer because i think Norv Turner forgets he has the best running back to play in the last 10 years. They could have iced that game but i think Turner had a brain crap and forgot he had LT.

Green Bay is a very young team except in there starting Qb position. Greg Jennings is up and coming and so is Brandon Jackson and so forth, there team is young and will only improve with time.

I can say never count out Carolina in the depleted Nfc South. TB just took a major hit in Carnell Williams and i believe there offensive line. I cant see Green Bay making the NFC championship game even though i would love to, there team is being one dimensional because the lack of the running game and longer down the road it is going to catch up when way or another. You can't expect favre to throw the ball 50 times each game and expect to win especially if the have to play teams like DA Bears and even TB because there defenses are pretty good. In my personal opinion i can Seattle going to the championship game but only with a healthy Shaun Alexander, but if he isnt healthy the Cowboys opponent in the NFC championship game is going to be up for grabs. The Redskins imo arent ready right now, because of a young QB and i still believe Joe Gibbs cant coach in this day and age. I can't see the Bears going because they cant decide on which QB to start each week. I cant say the Lions either because they beat nobody and when they played someone good they got there rear handed to them.

The only thing is could see in the NFC is a Cowboys Vs ? but no matter what i believe they are going to the SB unless Romo has another blunder like last year. But i see that highly unlikely but i will never say never. Another good thing is, is if Patrick Crayton can step his game up which he did last week they could be unstoppable in the NFC because Romo and Owens are on the same page and they dont seem to fighting or arguing on the Sidelines and they are a solid all around team.

 

[RBH]

Ready or not here are my week 5 picks with comments in the paranthasees.

MIAMI DOLPHINS (0-4) VS HOUSTON TEXANS (2-2)
(TEXANS; SORRY KYLE. I DON’T TRUST MIAMI AFTER THEY LET ME DOWN LAST WEEK. I GIVE THIS ONE TO AN ANGRY TEXANS TEAM. MIAMI IS HORRIBLE AFTER LOSING TO OAKLAND.)
YOUR PICK:

JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS (2-1) VS KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (2-2)
(CHIEFS; I GOT TO GO WITH KC AT HOME. EVEN THOUGH THE JAGS HAVE HAD 2 WEEKS TO PREPARE, THE CHIEFS ARE ENERGIZED AFTER BEATING SAN DIEGO LAST WEEK AND THEY ARE AT HOME.)
YOUR PICK:

CLEVELAND BROWNS (2-2) VS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (4-0)
(PATS; BROWNS ARE AWESOME AT HOME AND SUCK ON THE ROAD. THIS WILL BE CLOSE THOUGH AS PATS MIGHT LOOK AHEAD TO DALLAS NEXT WEEK.)
YOUR PICK:

CAROLINA PANTHERS (2-2) VS NEW ORLEANS SAINTS (0-3)
(SAINTS; UPSET OF THE WEEK! NO DELHOMME NO CHANCE! THE SAINTS NEED TO WIN SOMETIME AND WHAT BETTER TIME THAN NOW? THIS IS MUST WIN.)
YOUR PICK:

NEW YORK JETS (1-3) VS NEW YORK GIANTS (2-2)
(JETS; BATTLE OF NEW YORK. THE GIANTS ARE THE “HOME” TEAM. I ALWAYS PICK JETS WHEN THESE TWO PLAY. IT IS NOTHING PERSONAL BORIS THE JETS ARE MY PREFERED NEW YORK TEAM. BUT I FORSEE THE UPSET NEW YORK WIN. JETS WIN THIS "ROAD" GAME)
YOUR PICK:

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS (3-1) VS PITTSBURGH STEELERS (3-1)
(STEELERS; REVENGE PICK OF THE WEEK! THE STEELERS ARE GOING TO CRUSH THE HAWKS OFFENSIVE CORPS AND ENSURE THAT THEY RUN THE FIELD ALL OVER THE DEFENSE. THE HAWKS ARE NOT AS GOOD AS THEY PLAYED LAST WEEK. THEY BEAT THE NINERS LAST WEEK BECAUSE THE NINERS BEAT THEMSELVES SO DON’T EXPECT THE SEAHAWKS TO PLAY GREAT IN THIS GAME BECAUSE AT HEINZ FIELD, THEY WILL BE ANOTHER VICTIM.)
YOUR PICK:

ARIZONA CARDINALS (2-2) VS SAINT LOUIS RAMS (0-4)
(CARDINALS; SORRY SUARES. I DON’T TRUST THE RAMS EITHER. THEY LOST FOR ME TWICE THIS SEASON AND I AM NOT READY TO GIVE THEM A THIRD CHANCE. THE CARDS WIN A CLOSE ONE WITH BOTH QB’S. LEINART IN 1ST HALF AND WARNER IN 2ND HALF.)
YOUR PICK:

ATLANTA FALCONS (1-3) VS TENNESSEE TITANS (2-1)
(TITANS; THE FALCONS PLAYED WELL LAST WEEK BUT THIS WEEK THEY HAVE A TITANS TEAM THAT IS WELL RESTED AND SET. THE TITANS GO TO 3-1 THANKS TO VINCE YOUNG.)
YOUR PICK:

DETROIT LIONS (3-1) VS WASHINGTON REDSKINS (2-1)
(REDSKINS; THIS WAS HARD TO PICK BECAUSE I ADORE THE LIONS. BUT I BELIEVE TO GAIN A LEG; YOU GOT TO GET YOUR HAND SHOT. THE LIONS HAVE NOT PROVED YET THAT THEY CAN PLAY WELL ON THE ROAD AGAINST ANYONE EXCEPT THE RAIDERS AND THAT IS NOT SAYING MUCH.)
YOUR PICK:

TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS (3-1) VS INDIANAPOLIS COLTS (4-0)
(COLTS; THE COLTS STILL HAVE PEYTON MANNING SO IT DOESN’T MATTER IF HARRISON IS INJURED. THEY WILL STILL PLAY EXTREMELY WELL AGAINST THE BUCS DEFENSE WHICH I DON’T TRUST YET.)
YOUR PICK:

SAN DIEGO CHARGERS (1-3) VS DENVER BRONCOS (2-2)
(BRONCOS; I AM THROUGH GIVING THE CHARGERS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. THE BRONCOS KNOW THAT THEY HAVE LOST 2 IN A ROW AND THEY NEED TO WIN THIS. BOTH TEAMS WILL COME OUT FIRING BUT DEFENSE WILL WIN THIS ONE. THE BRONCOS GET THE NOD AT MILE HIGH.)
YOUR PICK:

BALTIMORE RAVENS (2-2) VS SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS (2-2)
(NINERS; MY HOMETOWN UPSET OF THE WEEK. WHY IS THIS AN UPSET? BECAUSE ALL READY, EVERYONE IS JUMPING OFF THE NINERS BANDWAGON BECAUSE ALEX SMITH WENT DOWN. SO WHAT? TRENT DILFER IS AN ESTABLISHED SUPER BOWL QUARTERBACK WHO WILL LEAD THE TEAM TO A CLOSE WIN OVER THE RAVENS DEFENSE THIS WEEK.)
YOUR PICK:

CHICAGO BEARS (1-3) VS GREEN BAY PACKERS (4-0)
(PACKERS; THE BEARS HAVE LOST IT AND BRETT FARVE IS BACK. THE VERDICT RULES; CHEESE HEADS AND GREAT DEFENSE WINS IT.)
YOUR PICK:

MONDAY
DALLAS COWBOYS (4-0) VS BUFFALO BILLS (1-3)
(COWBOYS; THE BOYS ARE TOO STRONG FOR A TEAM LIKE BUFFALO TO BEAT. BUT LIKE THE PATS, THE BOYS MIGHT LOOK AHEAD AND THEREFORE KEEP THIS CLOSE.)
YOUR PICK:

 

[The Bearded One]

Wow. The Jags have played 2 games against the AFC West, and 2 dominating performances. We shut the Chiefs out until the last play of the game. Next week we got a big home game against the Texans, who for some reason always gives us problems. But the are much better now. Should be a great game.

 

[X]

So who else watched the Cowboys-Buffalo Monday Night Game? Holy crap what a game that was!

While I'm a Pats fan first and foremost, I've always had a soft spot for the Bills because of my Uncle who's a rabid Buffalo fan, and I really badly wanted them to pull out this upset. Because that would have been one HELL of an upset! And I really, REALLY thought they had it done with. I thought the game was over. Then the Cowboys score like 10 points within 40 seconds of clock time. Unbelievable. Game winning field goal TWICE in a row. Hot damn.

But that game said a lot about the Cowboys to me. They aren't as good as they've been hyped up to be, and I don't care what team you're facing, when you throw 5 interceptions in one game, you are simply a terrible QB. Romo can rebound from this easily, but if he doesn't he's in trouble. If he gets on the pattern he was on in that game, the Cowboys are done for. I hope we don't see another Rex Grossman stunt here.

And whats up with every team doing the whole "call a timeout the split second before the opponent kicks the game winning field goal" move? I've seen it done in 4 NFL games so far this year, and 2 college games....is this the new trend or something?

 

[Lil Wes]

Then the Cowboys score like 10 points within 40 seconds of clock time. Unbelievable. Game winning field goal TWICE in a row. Hot damn.

Be afraid, Pat Fan, Be very afraid

But that game said a lot about the Cowboys to me.

Yeah, Same here. That they just will not give up, Sure they got knocked around, The Bills were in control mostly, but Dallas hung in there, Kept fighting and eventually got loads of momentum after the offense sparked during the 4th quarter, Say what you want about Tony Romo, but besides Brett Favre, I can't really think of any other QB in the NFC, I would want leading my team down for a FG or score with 2 minutes to go in a game.

They aren't as good as they've been hyped up to be,

Patriots are good, but they haven't played anyone worth a piss either, Dallas as always been average the past few seasons, This is the year they would explode, and they are doing so. The hype is what got to the Cowboys this week, It was obvious all the talk about next week's game, and "Super Bowl" were getting to them, Buffalo took advantage but couldn't finish the job.

Dallas has a damn good team, The best in the NFC right now, but one thing needs to be done for them to when next week and go far, The D is going to have to play better.

and I don't care what team you're facing, when you throw 5 interceptions in one game, you are simply a terrible QB.

Romo isn't a "terrible" QB. A ridiculous game though but he's far from being terrible, Just gotta put that bullshit game behind him and play one of his better games of the year against New England, and he'll be fine.

I hope we don't see another Rex Grossman stunt here.

You won't. That would have already happened by now. Tom Brady stepped right in..What?..4 years ago? I forgot, but Romo could be similar to Brady when it comes to stepping up and being the franchise QB.

And whats up with every team doing the whole "call a timeout the split second before the opponent kicks the game winning field goal" move?

Yeah, Bullshit move. I don't see how it "ices" the kicker, Seems to me it would only get them more unrattled and nervous, Because on that first try, They would be rattled as fuck, Especially if they have already missed one.

I've seen it done in 4 NFL games so far this year, and 2 college games....is this the new trend or something?

It's been around, Should be banned at the end of the season, Seems kind of cheap to me.

 

[A.J.]

And whats up with every team doing the whole "call a timeout the split second before the opponent kicks the game winning field goal" move? I've seen it done in 4 NFL games so far this year, and 2 college games....is this the new trend or something?

You know I dont have a problem with this at all. I mean ya sure it can some BS to call it when the coach is not even out on the field just has to stand next to ref and then call time right before the kick, but thats just being a great strategists. Really looking at in the Pros only time it really work was twice with the Raiders and Broncos.

Any advantages you can get use it. I'm sure no one would be saying anything if it won them a superbowl using the timeout.

Anyways it will backfire on some team someday. As a coach will call the TO and the kicer actually misses the FG but makes it on the second try.

 

[RBH]

Yeah that move seems kind of tasteless but oh well if its legal, why not? But I am going to make this bold prediction just for you XFEARBEFORE..the Cowboys will DEFEAT THE patriots this sunday at TEXAS STADIUM....there you go...I said i.
Reasons?
1. Home Field will certainly help as Texas Stadium will be rowdy and the Cowboys play esoecially well at home.
2. Romo will NOT have 2 bad games in a row: I expect Romo to come out really string in this one the Cowboys are a very good team and will be able to prove it with a stout offense.
3. This is the first good defense the Pats have faced this year. Like Kurt Angle would say ITS TRUE ITS DAMN TRUE. The Pats have beaten Bengals, Browns, Dolphins, Jets and Bills, all teams with either mediocre or worst defenses. The Cowboys have beaten the bears, Bills, Giants, Rams and dolphins...granted these teams dont have much of offense anyway (except for Giants when Eli is hot) but then again the Cowboys are a great 2nd half team. Look at their numbers in the 2nd half...they are probably the best 2nd half team in the league. If the score on sunday is like 17-14 pats at halftime, then a Patriots fan should be very afraid because if the Pats dont score early and often on sunday, then they are in trouble.

 

[BooCocky]

My only problem with the Cowboys games is all the turnovers by Romo himself. That is a game that they should have easily won, yes they did win and in a good fashion with like 10 pts in a matter of a minute or something. That is good and i give Romo credit for not buckling under pressure because the game he has was not to good.

They can not afford though to play that way against the Pats because Tom Brady doesnt make those types of mistakes, i believe he has only thrown 2 interceptions. the pats have established a solid running game with Maroney and Morris and they have a lot of weapons on the offensive side of the ball, They have Moss who has 7 touchdowns. I know the Cowboys have a solid running game with Barber and Jones and have weapons in Witten and T.O but they can not afford to turn the ball over and make not so good decisions because if they do i can see a complete blow out but the only reason why i dont see that happening is because they are playing at home and quite possibly maybe the competition with Brady can bring out the best in Tony Romo.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

So, much has gone on in the N.F.L. world since I last posted. The Bills rocked the Cowboys, only to allow them to rally & destroy them. This makes me think 2 things about the Cowboys.. 1 good thing, 1 bad thing. The good - they NEVER quit, even on a simple "weekly" game, that would result in them losing their first game. They NEVER quit. Now, the bad - The Bills, worst Defense in the entire N.F.L. this season.. dominated the Cowboys for 55, plus, minutes of this game. The Bills D owned the Cowboys offense, shutting down T.O. & picking off Romo every other time he seemed to let go of the ball.

Before this game, I feared the Cowboys as the best team in the N.F.C... now, I see that they're "mortal," so to speak. They can be beaten, even though they weren't. In my opinion, it wasn't even that they never quit that won them the game.. its because the Bills allowed themselves to believe it was already over, that lost them the game. I'm not unintentionally trying to downplay the incredible come-back that the Cowboys pulled off, it'll go down in history.. but I can almost guarantee if they play that bad in the playoffs, they won't be "coming back."

Now, both Matt Leinart & Jake Delhomme go down for the season. While Delhomme's injury was more or less known about since week 3, Leinart's happened this past Sunday. The question I have.. will Delhomme return? This is a similar injury, thats ended the career's of other QBs in the league, in the past.

Meanwhile, the coach of the Cards dodges a HUGE bullet.. as he no longer has to "rely" on Kurt Warner to win him games, & come up with bullshit reasons to pull Leinart.. he can now officially rely on Warner to win, AND lose, him games.. for the rest of the season.

Switching back to Carolina.. they signed Vintage' Testaverde. Now, thats not me mocking him, as I respect a man that is called upon when he's pushing 45 years of age. My only question is, how much does this tell David Carr that they have NO faith in him? Yes, he'll continue to start & be the starter for now.. but they went out & signed a "vet," not someone to be a back-up, TO Carr.. they signed someone they felt MAY play, should Carr not. Does this officially end any hope that the Panthers may have for a post-season?

I have faith & belief in Carr, he looked good against the Saints. (better than he was against the Bucs) But the downside is, look who they've beat. (Rams - 0-5, Falcons 1-4, & Saints 0-4, compared to losing to Bucs 3-2, & Texans 3-2) All in all, that should show that they aren't playing with the top-tier teams..

The irony, if there could be any.. is that the two teams that lost (officially for the season) their starting QBs, will play each other Sunday. Does the winning team stand a playoff run, while the losing team drops? I think the Cardinals could stand a loss, yet still make the playoffs.. but if Carolina loses, they'll begin to drop in the standings further behind the Bucs.. who SHOULD by all accounts, begin to lose with their talent dropping like flies, themselves.

 

[X]

Thats a bold prediction you made Coolhayek, but I'd have to disagree with it. And not just because I'm a Pats fan.

The Cowboys defense is just not good enough to stand up to the Patriots offense. It's just not and lets not fool ourselves here by arguing that it is. Match that with the Patriots STELLAR defense, and really, the Cowboys are going to lose by a large margin. Thats my prediction. I'd say something along the lines of 38-14 or 38-21 in favor of the Pats. I'm telling you right now, Tony Romo is not going to have a good game. Not against this defense. He may very well scrap together a decent game, but I promise you he won't be turnover-free, and when you're facing a team as talented as the Pats, you just can't afford to give up any turnovers in the game.

Cowboys are a team with a whole lot of holes in it. They've got a great offense with guys like Romo, Owens and Barber, but thats about all they really have going for them.

And in my opinion, TO is not even 1/4th as good of a reciever as Randy Moss. And Romo isn't even 1/100th of as good of a QB as Tom Brady is. Add the Patriots absolutely stacked and RIDICULIOUS defense with guys like Teddy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel, Junior Seau, Adalius Thomas, Asante Samuel and Rodney Harrison, I just don't think the Cowboys are gonna stand a chance.

Don't expect and edge-of-your-seat thrill ride from this one folks.

You heard it directly from the horse's mouth.

 

[Shocky]

If the last few years have proven anything, the AFC is far superior then the NFC. Look at two years ago, you have the Steelers as the six seed from the AFC, and they pounded the #1 NFC team Seattle.

Last year, the Bears, #1 seed, get beat down by Indy, who I believe was a 4, if not a 3 last year.

Fast Forward to this year, and the Bills, the bottom of the AFC, give the best team in the NFC a run for it's money. T.O. was talking about, why not the Cowboys, why is it about the Colts and the Patriots, well, because the AFC Championship game has usually been the Super Bowl the better part of the decade. The AFC is dominate over the NFC.

I wouldn't hold my breath on this being a good game. I expect the Pats to blow Dallas out, and blow them out bad. If you're looking for a great game, wait until week nine when the Pats go to the Colts, when both teams are 7 or 8 and 0.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

And in my opinion, TO is not even 1/4th as good of a reciever as Randy Moss. And Romo isn't even 1/100th of as good of a QB as Tom Brady is.

I agree with everything you said, except this. Randy Moss was a wash-out in Oakland, & don't gimme that crap about how "He didn't like it there, so he never played as hard as he could" crap. All THAT proves, is Randy Moss is EXACTLY like T.O. in the fact that both are big-mouthed, cry-babies.

Now, Randy Moss IS highly talented, just like Owens, & Moss will likely have the somewhat better game, as the Pats Offense has more weapons through the air than the Cowboys, & also as noted, the Boy's D isn't the best. (I mean, come on, they almost lost to the Bills)

On that note as well.. Romo blew up badly against the crappest Defense in the N.F.L. what do you possibly think will happen when he faces one of the N.F.L.'s best? Do you remember how everyone said the Chargers/Patriots game was gonna be great? Then it was a one sided score fest with the Pats destroying the Chargers? While the Cowboys might stick up more of a fight.. the outcome likely won't be different.

 

[BooCocky]

I agree with everything you said, except this. Randy Moss was a wash-out in Oakland, & don't gimme that crap about how "He didn't like it there, so he never played as hard as he could" crap.

Having a good Relationship with your Coach and QB is essential in having productive seasons. If Moss didnt see eye to eye with there coach and QB he most likely will not get the ball.

All THAT proves, is Randy Moss is EXACTLY like T.O. in the fact that both are big-mouthed, cry-babies.

I dont ever remember T.O ever saying he plays when he wants to. T.O might be a trash talker but just like Chad Johnson T.O can go out there and back his game up, where Moss in previous years can become lazy and only want to play when he is given the ball.

Now, Randy Moss IS highly talented, just like Owens, & Moss will likely have the somewhat better game, as the Pats Offense has more weapons through the air than the Cowboys, & also as noted, the Boy's D isn't the best. (I mean, come on, they almost lost to the Bills)

Mistakes happen you cant win every game, Quarterbacks have bad games look at Brett Favre and so forth. You are right about the Cowboys defense, they arent that strong. Randy Moss can be considered one of the best receivers in many years when he actually plays. Tom Brady is a proven QB and he was a proven QB without ever having a big game receiver like Moss. About the bills upsets happen its a matter of who showed up that game. That game was a game the cowboys should have won and they did, who cares if its by 3 points its a win in the win-loss column.

Last year, the Bears, #1 seed, get beat down by Indy, who I believe was a 4, if not a 3 last year.

I believe the were a 3 seed because they played the six seeded Chiefs at home then i believe they played the Ravens.