WZCW Drama

This is a swerve and you're one of the creative members that's pissy, right?!

Mate. Sincerely. I could not care less. Honestly, I appreciate getting any sort of feedback and we acted on the last round of your feedback immediately afterwards when I created a thread in the back pointing out a lot of things that I had noticed.
 
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Go figure. You'd think with us being such totalitarian jerks that can't take criticism, this would spill out more often than once every 18 months.
Things needing time to boil to a volcanic Bar Room tantrum somehow proves that you're not totalitarian jerks?
 
Try to figure out who on creative is pissy at Prophet!

Yaz: Head of Creative & Moderator - Possibly. Didn't seem like it though.
Killjoy: Creative Member & Moderator - Very pissy.

Dave: Creative Moderator - I don't think so.
Dynamite: Creative Moderator - Would be extremely disappointed if this one was pissy.

Spidey: Creative Member - Not had any interaction. Could be pissy.
NSL: Creative Member - I would lean towards not pissy but he could surprise me after our discussion about the elimination of Vee. I wasn't a fan.
Haiku Hogan: Creative Member - He seemed to take it on board rather well.

It's like playing Cluedo! Killjoy can I get some hints?

Go figure. You'd think with us being such totalitarian jerks that can't take criticism, this would spill out more often than once every 18 months.

You're really going to keep trying to make this about abusing creative powers than "Try and balance out the people on the shows since it gets a bit heavy on certain guys otherwise" which was my original point?
 
That's who's on creative now?

If it's Dave, Dynamite, or Haiku, I'd be sorely disappointed. They're all made of better stuff. Though if it's Haiku, he'll let it be known loudly at the first possible opportunity. I hope.

I don't know enough about Yaz. Not sure. Head of creative takes on a lot of water regardless. Who knows?

I've never thought highly of NSL. Wouldn't be surprised (pissy reply to follow? hopefully).

Who in the named of Hunter H Helmsley is Spidey's Alt?

I like this game.
 
Try to figure out who on creative is pissy at Prophet!

Yaz: Head of Creative & Moderator - Possibly. Didn't seem like it though.
Killjoy: Creative Member & Moderator - Very pissy.

Dave: Creative Moderator - I don't think so.
Dynamite: Creative Moderator - Would be extremely disappointed if this one was pissy.

Spidey: Creative Member - Not had any interaction. Could be pissy.
NSL: Creative Member - I would lean towards not pissy but he could surprise me after our discussion about the elimination of Vee. I wasn't a fan.
Haiku Hogan: Creative Member - He seemed to take it on board rather well.

It's like playing Cluedo! Killjoy can I get some hints?



You're really going to keep trying to make this about abusing creative powers than "Try and balance out the people on the shows since it gets a bit heavy on certain guys otherwise" which was my original point?

This all started because I red repped you and your form of communication was to make it a public affair. Had ypu just let it be, nonw of this silliness would not be happening. Had you PM'ed me or anyone else it would've been peacefully resolved. But you very predictably chose to make it public and call me petty for it.

It's about your condescending attitude, really. It's not what you said, it's how you say it. We all gladly welcomed you in when you called. Then as usual, you poke at things over and over in as loud a manner as possible. Go figure. People get mad. Am I mad? No. But I poked back.
 
That's who's on creative now?

If it's Dave, Dynamite, or Haiku, I'd be sorely disappointed. They're all made of better stuff. Though if it's Haiku, he'll let it be known loudly at the first possible opportunity. I hope.

I don't know enough about Yaz. Not sure. Head of creative takes on a lot of water regardless. Who knows?

I've never thought highly of NSL. Wouldn't be surprised (pissy reply to follow? hopefully).

Who in the named of Hunter H Helmsley is Spidey's Alt?

I like this game.

Dave said it wasn't him.

Dynamite would have been right here with me just a few years ago so hopefully he's not gone and turned pissy.

Haiku told me that he would make sure never to let it happen again. He understood my feedback and didn't act like a child by getting all pissy.

Yaz seemed to take my feedback well.

NSL and I had a discussion back and forth about him not taking feedback well. I could be standing with Killjoy on this one.

Spidey is up for grabs tbh. He could go either way.

Killjoy could just be dodging the original issue I raised since he has no answer for it other than attacking me personally.
 
I doubt you had much intention of peacefully resolving something you felt salty enough over to send that rep. Odds that you would have dug your heels in: High.

Cue dismissive comment about what a poor judge of your character I am.

Or cue something which goes out of its way to buck my expectation of your natural impulse.
 
Go figure. You'd think with us being such totalitarian jerks that can't take criticism, this would spill out more often than once every 18 months.

I am not sure if you missed my sarcasm or if I am missing the way you are trying to convey it, but issues show up plenty enough for problems to potentially be real. That being said I don't participate or read so I have no idea who is actually in the fault.
 
My opinion on all of this is that this thread was in very poor taste.

It's scared at least 1 person off the fed (possibly more). We want people to join not be scared off because of shit like this

You said what needed to be said in the review thread. Anything else could have been done through PM or in the backstage section.

Adios everyone I've said my piece
 
vs. Chris K.O. and his open challenge in 2012 which a majority of the fed agreed with.

vs. Holmes being in the main event of Kingdom Come when I thought it was clear Showtime was the superior character and would win easily.

That's two.

I was right on both of those things. KO lost his open challenge and Holmes didn't get a single vote at KC. That was years ago.

And I did so in the discussion thread for both of those matches without making it personal. It was always about the character.

Wanna try again?

When was that? Genuinely don't recall this. The Kermit thing I remember vividly.
 
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This all started because I red repped you and your form of communication was to make it a public affair. Had ypu just let it be, nonw of this silliness would not be happening. Had you PM'ed me or anyone else it would've been peacefully resolved. But you very predictably chose to make it public and call me petty for it.

It's about your condescending attitude, really. It's not what you said, it's how you say it. We all gladly welcomed you in when you called. Then as usual, you poke at things over and over in as loud a manner as possible. Go figure. People get mad. Am I mad? No. But I poked back.

I posted in the feedback thread!

How is that as loud a manner as possible?

I posted in the thread where feedback is posted, left my comments and then that was it.

You poke back?

:lmao:
 
I believe your reply was made in the normal discussion thread for some reason.

I think my points are fair and I don't attack you personally.

A lot of love for Showtime though.

I'm not sure what other rants, even though this isn't even a rant, Killjoy is yapping about.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=258179&highlight=kingdom+come

Oh yeah I remember this a little now. This was in a section of meh for me because a) I knew I was losing to Showtime because you were, partially, correct, 9 times out of 10 Showtime is better as an RPer than me, b) I was horribly burned out by this point and c) a lot of people were sick of Holmes in the ME at that point, myself included, hence why I totally took myself off the table as a future world title contender after that.
 
No disrespect, Prophet, but how do you remember all this shit?

I've only retained vague generalities from my WZCW meltdown.
 
I'll say this, you made one point in your PPV review post I agreed with wholeheartedly that I brought it up in the creative room.

Aside from that this argument means nothing to me to be honest.
 
Try to figure out who on creative is pissy at Prophet!
Spidey: Creative Member - Not had any interaction. Could be pissy.

I'm that "It could be piss or it could be flat beer. Either way, don't drink it."


You're really going to keep trying to make this about abusing creative powers than "Try and balance out the people on the shows since it gets a bit heavy on certain guys otherwise" which was my original point?

It might be due to how you phrased things. You seemed adamant to push for everybody getting a speaking role as if this helped make a show better. It doesn't. It makes it a dull read and can take away from the superstars that actually have a feud they're working on. And since we are in our Gold Rush season, pushing for more people to make appearances, have dialogue, etc outside of their matches without anything remotely looking like a feud made several including myself feel you were nit-picking in your review. Especially since Ascension is not up yet.

And we purposefully tried minimizing Zeus's screentime to make room for other things this round because you had complained last round about how there was an excess of it. But you complained that we lacked his dialogue this round. To some this is a confusing gripe.

We do want constructive criticism. But your complaints that somehow stretched over to the Predictions thread may be a big reason why several feel pissy at you. Keep your reviews where reviews go. I can't speak for everyone on Creative, but I am more than willing to tell you how I feel about what you say. Your desire for more dialogue, segments, etc for the guys that have nothing going on is not a terrible thing. It just doesn't sound like something enjoyable to read. That's why actual wrestling shows focus so much on story arcs and "the bigger guys". Give Dolph a mic and you may as well give me a stool and a rope.


Or maybe this could be solved just by WZCW members PMing each other about potential feuds and then telling us so we don't have to write some boring shit to appease people. Eh, more whiskey, Ty.
 
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Head of Creative: the biggest choker around here whose claim to fame is winning a taco eating contest in south Hoboken.

I really don't think the criticism is fair.
 
OH COME ON.
Next time someone makes a post like the one Prophet did in the prediction thread should I just go through and explain the joke word for word? There's gotta be someone on creative who gets what he's going for, right?

I love you Spidey, but I don't resonate with the PMing around stuff. That's probably because I'm literally never going to PM anyone about a feud or match, and since I've never been PM'd about a feud myself I may be on the exception for this particular sentence, but I don't see why the members should be doing so much behind creative's back.
 

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