Dude seriously, your ignorance astounds me
Yours does me too, what a turn of events.
Maybe because Foley excels in gimmick matches, he'll be in his element, and Warrior hasn't done fuck all in gimmick matches, outside of maybe a cage match here an there
In a two out of three falls match? So Foley, the gimmick wrestler, will excel in a match that is essentially just three wrestling matches, or maybe even two. I don't think so.
He's also beat Untertaker in bodybag matches. What happened when Foley took on The Undertaker in a gimmick match again? It's rarely replayed on WWE television, so I've forgotten.
A.) he isn't running a fucking race for Christ sake
No, but he's against a fast wrestler.
and B.) he was a bit quicker in his prime perhaps you should maybe do a little research first
But still slower than the Warrior.
Again not as out of shape as most may think when he was in his prime
No, but still in worse shape than the Warrior.
Where the fuck are your getting your information from, what the fuck are you baseing this off of, his match with Sting at Lockdown? have you watched a match of his that is older than fucking 10 yrs.
While I can't speak for 48.7, I have watched Foley's matches as far back as WCW, and he was always slower and weaker than The Ultimate Warrior. Until you show me Foley lift anybody clear over his head, and the strength argument isn't even worth dignifying.
Again absolute bullshit, look at the guys he's facing in those matches, all that does is prove that Foley can take insane amounts a punishment and still get right back up and keep on fighting
Right, it takes a lot to pin him, but he never actually wins those matches does he. He famously took 11 chair shots against the Rock, but he still lost. He lost the hell in a cell against the Undertaker. Sure, he fought on, but he fought on and lost.
Which explains why he lost
, Nobody is unbeatable, nobody
Right, so he lost three times ever in HIGHLY dubious circumstances, so had 48.7 said "he is unbeatable clean" he would have been accurate. I'm not sure there has ever been another wrestler to have gone unbeaten clean ever, even Goldberg lost a couple clean.
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Warrior can take more punishment than Foley?!?!, are you fucking serious?!?!?, nobody in the history of WWE with the exception of maybe Terry Funk has ever taken as much punishment as Mick Foley
Right, but the difference is this. Foley gets thrown from a cage and gets up, but then he loses. Ultimate Warrior gets hit by the Tombstone, and stands straight back up and wins. What matches has Foley had where he took a pasting then won on his own? He didn't win the World Title, Steve Austin and DX did. He was out cold the whole time.
, this right here proves you have not done a single ounce of fucking research, nor do you have a fucking clue as to WTF you are even talking about, seriously next time before you post such ridiculous crap do a little bit a research so that you at least come across as having at least some clue of what you are talking about
Have you done any research? We've got a guy who was a face for most of his career and won a few high profile matches against a guy who lost three matches ever, only after multiple run ins. In a hardcore environment, the arguments for Foley are stronger, but here they aren't.
Warrior has never lost to the same guy twice, and avenged two of his three defeats decisively (he eft WCW before he could beat the nWo), and you're seriously expecting a guy who was literally given his biggest win to him on a plate by DX and Austin to beat him twice in one night? It just isn't going to happen.
Not too smart? Foley is one of the most intelligent men to ever step foot in a ring. Kayfabe or non kayfabe wise, the man is very smart as evidenced by the fact that he's a multiple time New York Times number one bestselling author and kayfabe wise was a piano prodigy who was also very well read. Mick Foley may be one crazy son of a bitch, but he's not stupid.
Yeah, because a guy talking to a sock and calling Vince McMahon dad just fucking screams intelligence doesn't it. So what if he's written books, the only Foley character to embrace that intelligence is the one that was a WWE commentator for a few months.
Warrior wasn't unbeatable. He's had a few losses in his career. The man wasn't undefeated. He lost to Rick Rude and to Sgt. Slaughter and to a few others.
If by a few others you mean one, then yes you are right. He lost to Rude because Bobby Heenan interfered, but then later destroyed Rude. He lost to Sgt. Slaughter, because Randy Savage intefered twice and so did Sensational Sherri, and he lost to Hogan when the entire nWo interfered. Foley doesn't have those kind of heelish resources to fall back on, and Warrior avenged those defeats.
That's very highly debatable. I've never seen Warrior in any match take close to the punishment that Mick Foley's taken at times in some of his matches.
If you are talking about 11 chair shots, Foley lost that one. If you are talking about being thrown off the cell, he lost that one too. If you are talking about when Triple H put him through the cell, he lost that one too. All of the matches were Foley takes a lot of punishment, he loses. He loses gallantly, don't get me wrong, but a loss is a loss.
This is a two out of three falls match, so it doesn't have any weapons, and when it comes to wrestling moves, Warrior has taken far more than Foley and still won. When Foley was tombstoned, that was it. When Warrior was, it wasn't even a one-fall. Randy Savage is one of the biggest naes in wrestling history, and Warrior took his finisher 5 times and still won.
Er, PYT, have you ever WATCHED a UW match? He is all offense, and totally blown up after about 10 minutes.
Literally blown up, or literally holding his arms up in celebration after his win.
That is NOT gonna last through an entire 2 out of 3 falls match. He doesnt have near the Stamina to hang in with Foley, a guy who while not being the most cut up, physically impressive looking individuals, has gone through VERY long, brutal matches with some of the WWE's best. Im not sure if Warrior has EVER gone very far over 15 minutes. He wont here. id give the edge to Foley.
While I'm not sure you can hold the fact he wins his matches quickly against him anyway, you're point is flawed. The following are his PPV matches that went on longer than 15 minutes.
Survivor Series 1988 : Sole Survivor 17:51
Summerslam 1989 vs Rick Rude 16:02 (Longest match on the card)
Survivor Series 1989: Sole Survivor 20:28
WrestleMania VI: vs. Hulk Hogan 22:51
WrestleMania VII: vs. Randy Savage 20:58
Summerslam 1992 vs. Randy Savage 28:00
Suffice to say, he won them all.
What that says is, The Warrior didn't often need to fight beyond 15 minutes, but when he did, against the huge names, he won, which is what he should do here.
I honestly can't think of one logical reason why Foley would beat Warrior in a 2 out of 3 match, there's no justification for it. Warrior was pinned three times ever by some of the most legendary heel tacticians ever. He avenged the defeats, and never made the same mistakes again. He has shown time and again that on the odd occaision he's caught off guard, he gets up immediately and kicks arse. Warrior wins this, and it should be 2 straight falls.
