justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
I whole heatedly agree with this
WWE Over the Limit 2011 LD With Some Added Pomp and Circumstance
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I whole heatedly agree with this
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
It also works, becuase although he quits like a pussy, he will come out talking JUST as much shit as ever tomorrow night, which will make him look more like a tit than ever before.
Which is what they want
Which is what they want
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Of course that's what they want. Some people are having a really tough time understanding this.
I disagree, c'mon, the Miz isn't that bad. If a finish like this happened in Dec/Jan, okay. But I think after a decent championship reign (despite lack of any clean pins), reports about the WWE having Miz as a serious player in their future plans, and him building himself up as a man who has been always doubted -- a completely clean Miz vs extremely battered Cena deserved more than a 40 second beatdown before cena finished him off with the STF
Actually, forget it. I retract my statement about Miz getting buried/looking like shit. What really hurts me is that he continued to look like shit when I feel given what he's accomplished and the other things I just explained, he could've and deserved to look at least HALF respectable in that situation against Cena. At least 2 minutes. Even with Miz winning his last match on RAW unclean against mysterio, it felt like he has been gaining steam and looking less like a joke within every week on RAW even if his matches don't support that (and obviously because he's the pussy heel type).
Mighty NorCal
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Oh my THATS how the Cara - Chavo match ended?
that was fucking pathetic
that was fucking pathetic Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Miz looking weak + not admitting it to the fans = additional heat. He's going to lie, cheat, steal, etc. When you look at it that way, the weaker the better.
Deserve? Sure, I'll agree that Miz deserves a spot at the top (even if I don't, seeing I have never liked the guy). His spot is that of a cowardly heel. The more cowardly he looks/acts, the better his character looks. I say, again, looking "strong" means nothing for this kind of heel. Nothing, at all.
I didn't watch it, but from the sounds of it I have to side with Norcal that the biggest flaw with the match is that The Miz deserved a beatdown of a lifetime and Cena didn't give it to him. For example, when Cena had Miz in the STF, and Miz muttered "I", Cena could have then slapped the microphone away, let go of the hold, and start to give more punishment like FUing him through a table or something. Then he could have replied the STF, slap the mic away again when Miz is about to quit, and then do another big move. Do this two or three more times, until finally Miz is at the point where he could even barely mutter the words "I Quit."
Not only does that put the feud to rest for good, but Cena could also say he was sending a message out to the Rock and to anyone who tries to take the WWE Championship away from him before Wrestlemania.
It's time to make Cena a fucking bad ass, not some comeback kid. We've seen that shit enough.
Not only does that put the feud to rest for good, but Cena could also say he was sending a message out to the Rock and to anyone who tries to take the WWE Championship away from him before Wrestlemania.
It's time to make Cena a fucking bad ass, not some comeback kid. We've seen that shit enough.
The Miz/Cena feud blew the moment they ignored their 2009 history.
But just out of curiosity? Since when does a heel under 290 pounds need to look strong?
But just out of curiosity? Since when does a heel under 290 pounds need to look strong?
Mighty NorCal
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When they are an interweb darling and fight against John Cena, dont ya know
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
How on earth is their 2009 feud relevant to there current feud at all?, this is really just more grasping at straws and bitching about something for the sake of bitching
The fact that Cena thought of Miz as a pest but by 2011, Miz was the WWE Champion? The fact Miz turned around after their feud? Given how the feud revolved around Miz turning his life around and becoming the WWE Champion, one would think 2009 would be a focal point.
And besides, I'm sick of the heel want's to keep Cena down story. They brought up the 2008 incident for the Orton/Punk feud. What stopped them from doing the same to Miz and Cena?
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
They didn't bring up the feud from 09, but Cena definitely acknowledged it.
TheOneBigWill
[This Space for Rent]
Why the shit would the even acknowledge a point in time when the Miz's best moments were claiming victory over Cena never showing up? And the very few matches they actually did have - Cena almost always squashed Miz.
Miz has evolved far better than those days. Bringing them back up, or keeping them relevant to this year's feud would only hurt Miz's Heavyweight spot even worse by making him look even MORE fluke-ish and unworthy of his spot.
Which, for what it's worth - Miz owned Cena (with Riley, of course) throughout 98% of this match - and barely had to defend himself from Cena in ANY fashion. Only to instantly scream "I Quit!" once Cena locked in the STFU. That in and of itself also makes Miz look incredibly weak and pathetic, (true heel character though) especially when you consider how much Cena took on in punishment - compared to Miz barely taking anything, yet still quitting after ONE submission hold.
Miz has evolved far better than those days. Bringing them back up, or keeping them relevant to this year's feud would only hurt Miz's Heavyweight spot even worse by making him look even MORE fluke-ish and unworthy of his spot.
Which, for what it's worth - Miz owned Cena (with Riley, of course) throughout 98% of this match - and barely had to defend himself from Cena in ANY fashion. Only to instantly scream "I Quit!" once Cena locked in the STFU. That in and of itself also makes Miz look incredibly weak and pathetic, (true heel character though) especially when you consider how much Cena took on in punishment - compared to Miz barely taking anything, yet still quitting after ONE submission hold.
Uncle Chester
I see you, and your penis.
I love how all these Cena marks sound exactly like the indy marks of a couple of years ago. It's a true representation of how strange human beings are.
Uncle Chester
I see you, and your penis.
And heel IS suppose to look SOMEWHAT strong against a face and Miz quit after a piss poor beating which makes me think what justification is there for Miz to ever beat Cena again if all Cena needs is 30 seconds to end him?
Mighty NorCal
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thats just a bit dramatic
Steamboat Ricky
WZCW's Living Legend
I'm allllllways dramatic. It's part of my personality.
Uncle Chester
I see you, and your penis.
How can people find the motivation to seriously participate and waste time debating on something so fucking sipteful?
Steamboat Ricky
WZCW's Living Legend
This was possibly the worst show in wrestling history. Horrendous.
Turned out Sky were giving it away for free. Pretty fitting, seeing as I'd value it at about £0. The world heavyweight title match was the only thing on the card worth watching. I punched the air so hard it ran away and I nearly suffocated when Christian hit the spear.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
So, anyone saying a heel (Miz) doesn't have to look strong against a babyface (Cena) is a Cena mark? Well, I know I'm definitely not a Cena mark, so if that's what you're getting at, you're wrong.
Certain types of heels need to look strong. Monster heels, guys like Sheamus, for example. Cowardly heels do not need to look strong, and Miz is most definitely a cowardly heel-type. Losing like this is great for his character, actually.
While I have no idea what sipteful means, are you not wasting your time as well?
How is it "mind boggling"? It makes perfect sense.
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