WWE Mount Rushmore?

[Rocky84]

I said AFTER the match... you know, after he beat the shit out of the Rock with as steel chair, shook hand with Vince Mcmahon, and then doused an unconcious Rock in beer... I'd call that a heel turn.

And people cheered Austin everywhere he went, even after he turned heel. If the Austin was clearly second fiddle like you said in your other post, why the hell would they give the belt to him.

It doesn't matter what he did! It's Austin in his hometown...he was not going to get booed bro. This is not even a big part of the argument. You also said in a different post that one of the best storylines of all time happened ...I'm guessing the "Invasion" you mean??? Are you joking? Because it's like the general consensus amongst wrestling fans that that was the worst time in wrestling history lol.

Also, when Austin left in 1999...ratings went up because of the Rock being #1 according to stats....not HHH, not Foley (who people disliked being in the main event at Mania) and not Big Show (which people also disliked main eventing Mania)....so0o yea. Also if you're 23...you were what? like 8 or 9? Smh.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

Nah Punk's a jackass, he's basically the modern day Hogan except he couldn't give two shits about the fans (and he has said it numerous times). I could care less if Punk came back and I'm honestly sick of the chants.

The difference is the Rock kept saying, "Im here to stay", "I ain't going nowhere" and its all BS. And also don't you think the fans deserve to have the Rock come back after 7 years with basicaly no explanation of why he left.

Well to be fair, he already explained on more than one occasion what he meant when he said that.

He meant he'll somehow still be part of the WWE family, The rock main evented last year's wrestlemania, he was on the cover of wwe 2k14, won a slammy... He's still being mentioned in wwe tv.

Also, let's not act like nothing happened between the time he said that and now (when he left).
Most of the wrestlers were b!tching about the rock like punk Ziggler Orton etc.
A lot of fans were b!tching.
He got injured.
Fans chanted BS after his injury was announced on wwe tv.

After ALL THAT, you want him to show up this year?

 

[OYDK]

It doesn't matter what he did! It's Austin in his hometown...he was not going to get booed bro. This is not even a big part of the argument. You also said in a different post that one of the best storylines of all time happened ...I'm guessing the "Invasion" you mean??? Are you joking? Because it's like the general consensus amongst wrestling fans that that was the worst time in wrestling history lol.

Also, when Austin left in 1999...ratings went up because of the Rock being #1 according to stats....not HHH, not Foley (who people disliked being in the main event at Mania) and not Big Show (which people also disliked main eventing Mania)....so0o yea. Also if you're 23...you were what? like 8 or 9? Smh.

Man If The Rock did to Stone Cold what Stone Cold did to The Rock in Miami, he STILL would have gotten roasted by the fans, and I know it isn't a big part of the argument, YOU'RE the one going on and on about it. Secondly the Invasion angle may be shit on by the IWC because they were all pissed about WWE not hiring back any of the top WCW talent, but WWE ranked it as their top storyline of all time, and the CASUAL fan loved it. (disagree with this point all you want, it's true).

Like I said before yea I was young but I have watched the AE multiple times over (btw how old are you buddy like 45), enough to realize that Austin was more over than the Rock... Talk about the Rock being the reason for the rating rise all you want, if you"ll remember back fans tuned into WWE to watch the Rock LOSE the WWF title to Mankind the night WCW gave away the ending... How do you know fans didn't want Mankind in Mania 15? Did you even watch the friggin product... People loved Foley, Mcmahon just WOULD NOT let him main event Wrestlemania against Austin.

Only reason this argument is happening is because Austin got hurt... If he had never gotten hurt the Rock would always have played second best to Austin.

 

[Rocky84]

Man If The Rock did to Stone Cold what Stone Cold did to The Rock in Miami, he STILL would have gotten roasted by the fans, and I know it isn't a big part of the argument, YOU'RE the one going on and on about it. Secondly the Invasion angle may be shit on by the IWC because they were all pissed about WWE not hiring back any of the top WCW talent, but WWE ranked it as their top storyline of all time, and the CASUAL fan loved it. (disagree with this point all you want, it's true).

Like I said before yea I was young but I have watched the AE multiple times over (btw how old are you buddy like 45), enough to realize that Austin was more over than the Rock... Talk about the Rock being the reason for the rating rise all you want, if you"ll remember back fans tuned into WWE to watch the Rock LOSE the WWF title to Mankind the night WCW gave away the ending... How do you know fans didn't want Mankind in Mania 15? Did you even watch the friggin product... People loved Foley, Mcmahon just WOULD NOT let him main event Wrestlemania against Austin.

Only reason this argument is happening is because Austin got hurt... If he had never gotten hurt the Rock would always have played second best to Austin.

You obviously have a difficult time differentiating between facts and your own opinion. An opinion is "man if Rock did to Austin in Miami what Austin did to Rock in Texas he'd be roasted"...this is not a fact bud. Also, I'm not going on and on about it...YOU brought it up! I'm not going to ignore you quoting me with that being the basis of your argument...what do you expect???

Secondly, the invasion angle is shat on by 100% of the people I've ever heard talk about it. What do you expect brass to say? We sucked? No, but even the top talent at that time said the same thing...it sucked! Do some research man cuz you sound like a rookie. How dare you ask if I even watched the product...were you even allowed to back then at 8 years old?

I'm not 45 btw...I specifically said I was a freshman in highschool in 1998-1999...therefore I was 14 years old which makes me 29 today. Smh.

Mankind vs Austin at Mania 15??? Please stop.

 

[OYDK]

You obviously have a difficult time differentiating between facts and your own opinion. An opinion is "man if Rock did to Austin in Miami what Austin did to Rock in Texas he'd be roasted"...this is not a fact bud. Also, I'm not going on and on about it...YOU brought it up! I'm not going to ignore you quoting me with that being the basis of your argument...what do you expect???

Secondly, the invasion angle is shat on by 100% of the people I've ever heard talk about it. What do you expect brass to say? We sucked? No, but even the top talent at that time said the same thing...it sucked! Do some research man cuz you sound like a rookie. How dare you ask if I even watched the product...were you even allowed to back then at 8 years old?

I'm not 45 btw...I specifically said I was a freshman in highschool in 1998-1999...therefore I was 14 years old which makes me 29 today. Smh.

Mankind vs Austin at Mania 15??? Please stop.

Alright I'm going to stop destroying this damn thread... All I'm gonna say is the Rock was NOT as over as you seem to think he was around Wrestlemania 15. Go back and watch. You will SEE that Foley was more over at the time.

Secondly, of course "100% of the people you've ever heard talk about it" have shat on it... Hardcore fans are critical of EVERYTHING.. and like I said people shat on it because none of the BIG STARS FROM WCW CAME OVER... Creatively it was still a great storyline, just weak talent.

Lastly ahhh, I'm like what... 5 years younger than you... get over yourself bud and stop ignoring the fact that I say I have watched the Attitude Era MULTIPLE TIMES, not only when I was "8 or 9". OK done.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

Alright I'm going to stop destroying this damn thread... All I'm gonna say is the Rock was NOT as over as you seem to think he was around Wrestlemania 15. Go back and watch. You will SEE that Foley was more over at the time.

Secondly, of course "100% of the people you've ever heard talk about it" have shat on it... Hardcore fans are critical of EVERYTHING.. and like I said people shat on it because none of the BIG STARS FROM WCW CAME OVER... Creatively it was still a great storyline, just weak talent.

Lastly ahhh, I'm like what... 5 years younger than you... get over yourself bud and stop ignoring the fact that I say I have watched the Attitude Era MULTIPLE TIMES, not only when I was "8 or 9". OK done.

Nobody denies Foley's popularity but he was NOT more popular than Rock.

The Rock as a heel was pretty d@mn over. Look at the pop he gets at WM15 and to be getting that reaction as the heel and facing the most popular wrestler ever proves the GREATNESS of The Rock.

Mankind was over as a face but he wasn't close to Rock's or Austin's popularity.

Austin used to stun mankind as a face and people would go nuts for it.

 

[Rocky84]

Nobody denies Foley's popularity but he was NOT more popular than Rock.

The Rock as a heel was pretty d@mn over. Look at the pop he gets at WM15 and to be getting that reaction as the heel and facing the most popular wrestler ever proves the GREATNESS of The Rock.

Mankind was over as a face but he wasn't close to Rock's or Austin's popularity.

Austin used to stun mankind as a face and people would go nuts for it.

Thank you. The dude who posted a thread about Austin vs Rock at Mania 16 mentioned that in a newsletter back then that Austin was worried that his character was getting stale in 99 and that Rock was becoming #1. Also that Rock was supposed to go over Austin at Mania 2000...

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?p=4790411#post4790411

he's said he was looking at newsletters and stories from way back then so I'd imagine they're pretty accurate especially considering that Austin obligated to get his neck taken care of at this time conveniently.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

I wouldn't ever agree with adding someone like John Cena, CM Punk or Rey Mysterio who've been at the top for less than a decade. You won't see Obama or Bush on Mt. Rushmore any time soon. It's recintism. You have to wait and see how their legacies live up.

That's why my 4 would be:

• Bruno Sammartino
• Hulk Hogan
• Steve Austin
• Bret Hart

(Hard to choose between Randy Savage, The Rock, Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart, but I went with Bret. He was the face of his era even though it was probably the less popular one. Rock, Savage and Michaels were extremely popular but they were always #2 behind the actual face of the company.)

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

Rock, Savage and Michaels were extremely popular but they were always #2 behind the actual face of the company.)

The Rock sure was #2 when he main evented 38 RAW matches in 2000 (more than any wrestler main evented in one year).

The Rock sure was #2 when he main evented 3 straight wrestlemanias.

The Rock sure was #2 when he main evented 9 consecutive PPVs for the WWF title.

The Rock sure was #2 when him and Booker T main evented Summerslam over a red hot American Hero babyface vs The Alliance heel leader Angle vs Austin for the WWF title.

The Rock sure was #2 when he beat the biggest star in wrestling history at Wrestlemania.

The Rock sure was #2 when he was picked as the #1 pick of the first draft of the brand extension.


The Rock wasn't #1, Austin was #1.

That's why WWE wanted Austin to job Lesnar on raw without any build up.
Clearly signs of being number 1 when you're supposed to job cleanly without any build up.
Clearly signs of being number 1 when they turn you heel.


Face it you ignorant m0r0n, Rock was number 1 since late 99.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

The Rock sure was #2 when he main evented 3 straight wrestlemanias.

#1 has to face SOMEBODY in the main event, might as well face the #2.

The Rock sure was #2 when he main evented 38 RAW matches in 2000 (more than any wrestler main evented in one year).

Cool story bro. Austin was out for half of 1999 and 2000. That's like saying Daniel Bryan was the #1 guy while Cena was out.

The Rock sure was #2 when he main evented 9 consecutive PPVs for the WWF title.

Again, Austin was out with an injury. You're cherry-picking dates.

The Rock sure was #2 when him and Booker T main evented Summerslam over a red hot American Hero babyface vs The Alliance heel leader Angle vs Austin for the WWF title.

1 circumstance doesn't make him the top guy. CM Punk and Jeff Hardy main evented SummerSlam too. Go ahead and argue that Punk was the #1 guy in 09.

The Rock sure was #2 when he beat the biggest star in wrestling history at Wrestlemania.

That wasn't even the main event. An iconic match between 2 stars nearing the end of their careers. Brock Lesnar was clearly the hand-picked #1 guy at that point.

The Rock sure was #2 when he was picked as the #1 pick of the first draft of the brand extension.

This is supposed to mean something?
1) Austin was freaking EXEMPT from the draft, being allowed to choose the show he wanted.
2) Rock was drafted to SD, away from the flagship show.

The Rock wasn't #1, Austin was #1.

Kudos, you're starting to get it.

That's why WWE wanted Austin to job Lesnar on raw without any build up.Clearly signs of being number 1 when you're supposed to job cleanly without any build up.

That's meaningless. Guys do random jobs all the time. Cena has jobbed to Carlito, Kennedy, Tensai, and more, all on random Raws.

Clearly signs of being number 1 when they turn you heel.

First you count all of Rock's main events as a heel as evidence he was #1 and then you say Austin's heel turn proves he isn't #1?

Vince wanted to go the nWo route and have a heel top guy. It didn't work, and they fixed it shortly thereafter. And anyway, Rock turned heel way more times than Austin did.

 

[Kidpolean]

#1 has to face SOMEBODY in the main event, might as well face the #2.



Cool story bro. Austin was out for half of 1999 and 2000. That's like saying Daniel Bryan was the #1 guy while Cena was out.


Again, Austin was out with an injury. You're cherry-picking dates.



1 circumstance doesn't make him the top guy. CM Punk and Jeff Hardy main evented SummerSlam too. Go ahead and argue that Punk was the #1 guy in 09.



That wasn't even the main event. An iconic match between 2 stars nearing the end of their careers. Brock Lesnar was clearly the hand-picked #1 guy at that point.


This is supposed to mean something?
1) Austin was freaking EXEMPT from the draft, being allowed to choose the show he wanted.
2) Rock was drafted to SD, away from the flagship show.



Kudos, you're starting to get it.


That's meaningless. Guys do random jobs all the time. Cena has jobbed to Carlito, Kennedy, Tensai, and more, all on random Raws.



First you count all of Rock's main events as a heel as evidence he was #1 and then you say Austin's heel turn proves he isn't #1?

Vince wanted to go the nWo route and have a heel top guy. It didn't work, and they fixed it shortly thereafter. And anyway, Rock turned heel way more times than Austin did.

who the hell cares about any of this crap... The Rock is the either 1st or 2nd biggest wrestler of all time with his only competition being Hogan. Stop putting your favorites on here (Bret Hart) and be realistic. I'm so sick of this nonsense I read on here everyday. Bret Hart has absolutely nothing on the the rock, unless you want to count being the number 1 guy while getting his ass kicked by wcw every week. The Rock is more popular and had a bigger impact than Bret. Hell, taker and hbk have done more than Bret. The most famous thing Bret ever did was get screwed by Vince. This argument is completely freakin ridiculous. This is exactly why nobody respects us, the IWC, and why the WWE rarely pays any attention to our opinions.

 

[Bdubbs]

Here's my WWE Mount Rushmore:

Vince McMahon- Vince revolutionized the business when taking over from his father. He turned WWE from a Northeast territorial company into a global phenomenon.

Bruno Sammartino- In 1963, he defeated Buddy Rogers in under a minute for the WWWF championship. He didn't lose the belt until Ivan Koloff beat him in 1971. He regained the WWWF belt in 1973 by beating Stan Stasiak, and he didn't lose it until 1977 to Superstar Billy Graham. His record 8 year run with the belt will never be broken, and Bruno was immensely popular, being viewed by many in MSG as a true hero.

Hulk Hogan- Hogan should be on everybody's list for obvious reasons. He's a 6-time WWF/WWE champion, and the main factor in WWF appealing to mainstream media in the mid 80's. He holds 2 of the top 10 longest title runs in history, and his feuds with Andre, Savage, and Ultimate Warrior were classics. Hogan was a trend-setter, and he paved the road for many future WWE superstars.

Stone Cold Steve Austin- Austin was the top guy in the Attitude Era, and he was one of the main factors that saved WWF and Vince McMahon from being folded to Turner and WCW. He was absolutely on fire after he won King of the Ring and dropped his infamous Austin 3:16 promo. Once Vince was added to Austin's storyline, Stone Cold rose to even greater heights. Fans could relate to the story, as everyone at one point in their life has wanted to tell their boss off. Vince has gone on record many times stating how Austin shattered numerous attendance/merchandising records.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

Cool story bro. Austin was out for half of 1999 and 2000. That's like saying Daniel Bryan was the #1 guy while Cena was out.

Hahaha you are such a fail. The plan was for Austin to turn heel in 99 but your hero pu$$ied out and went to do a surgery that he could've done any time before.

Rock was clearly the #1 guy from late 99.

1 circumstance doesn't make him the top guy. CM Punk and Jeff Hardy main evented SummerSlam too. Go ahead and argue that Punk was the #1 guy in 09.

Lol weren't you comparing The Rock to Daniel Bryan's position, now to cm punk? Stick to one wrestler kid. Your argument fails and so do you.

Jeff vs Punk was a TLC match, Orton-Cena was a normal one on one match. Hence why punk Hardy main evented, also there was the return of the undertaker.

Rock vs Book was a normal match just like Angle-Austin match and Rock main evented over Austin and the WWF title.


Also, you fail to mention that Rock main evented the last 5 ppvs that he's been in before he left lol.

That wasn't even the main event. An iconic match between 2 stars nearing the end of their careers. Brock Lesnar was clearly the hand-picked #1 guy at that point.

The match wasn't the main event because of Hunter's ego but it doesn't change the fact that it is the biggest match in wrestling history while the #1 guy was feuding with a drunken Scott hall hahahahahaha.

That's meaningless. Guys do random jobs all the time. Cena has jobbed to Carlito, Kennedy, Tensai, and more, all on random Raws.

Hahahaha are you really comparing Austin to Cena's position in the company? lmao.

Also, Cena NEVER lost cleanly on raw without a build up like Austin was supposed to do before he pu$$ied out.

First you count all of Rock's main events as a heel as evidence he was #1 and then you say Austin's heel turn proves he isn't #1?

2 of the 3 wm main events were as a face lol.

Also, Rock wasn't heel from 99-02.

Vince wanted to go the nWo route and have a heel top guy. It didn't work, and they fixed it shortly thereafter. And anyway, Rock turned heel way more times than Austin did.

No.

WWF/E never turned Bruno or Hogan heel because they didn't have a replacement but they did replace Austin.

The Rock > "Stone Cold" Steve Austin

 

[JOSHG85]

This is a really tough question. Let me preface by saying I didn't include anyone who was most popular in the WWWF era.

1. Vince McMahon - The guy who expanded wrestling beyond the territories and revolutionized it for better or worse. The guy who is now on the edge of revolutionizing television with WWE network. He has to be number one.

2. Hulk Hogan - The FRANCHISE. He is the guy who was the face who expanded wrestling to arguable its greatest heights. Obviously has some personal issues and is very stingy in not putting others over, but he has to be here.

3. Steve Austin - THE REVOLUTIONARY - He changed the face of wrestling with is act. The bad guy was now the good guy. Austin did HUGE money with Rock, HHH, Foley, Undertaker, Bret Hart and others.

4. The Rock - THE WILDCARD - The guy is simply a force of nature. He persevered through the crap that was "Rocky Maivia", became "The Great One", did HUGE business, transcended wrestling and had success, came back and gave a good shot in the arm to wrestling.

Honorable mentions: The Undertaker, Andre The Giant, Bret Hart, HBK, John Cena, Triple H, Randy Savage, Roddy Piper and Bob Backlund (first guy to hold the WWF World Title and did so for over 2,000 days.)

 

[Adaminho]

1) Vince McMahon - Self explanatory, the man who created what we know and hate today.

2) Hulk Hogan - The biggest wrestling icon on the planet bar none. Propelled WWE into mainstream America, and is a big part for making wrestling as a whole the event that it is today.

3) Stone Cold Steve Austin - The man who single-handedly stopped WWE from going out of business in the Monday Night Wars.

4) John Cena - The face of the modern WWE Era, and no matter if you like him or not, you have to respect him, for his commitments to the company inside and outside of the ring.

 

[Gaming24/7]

As much as the rock is famous for being a movie star and deservedly so, to put him in this mount Rushmore just seems wrong to me as it should be purely about professional wrestling and not general fame.

It should be four people who were the best in there era and overall rock played second fiddle to Austin. Vince Mcmahon I also don't think should be there because even tho he is the most important man in wresting history he's not actually a proper wrestler despite his many matches. I don't say this as a mark for any of these people but it can only really be:

Bruno Samartino - Of course he was the best before the wwe really took off and went mainstream but he was the top draw for the wwf back then sold out madison square garden a record number of times, and his time at the top put the wwf in a very good position almost laying the groundwork for future success. Not to mention the little fact of him holding the wwe title for a amazing combined number of 4040 days.

Hulk Hogan - I'm not the biggest fan of Hogan and many many people don't like to admit it but in my unbiased view Hulk Hogan is the greatest professional wrestler of all time. Of course things like the goat are based on opinion, but Hogan is far from my favourite but I really believe if anyone deserves the goat title its him.

Steve Austin - Where to begin with Austin he must be the most popular wrestler ever, gave us some of the best moments in wwe history the face of the attitude era and the biggest reason other then vince for the wwe's huge rise in popularity at the time that helped them recover after some turbulent years and overtake wcw. The only reason I say Hogan is better overall as he put a lot more years in at the top where as Austin's greatness only went on for a short period.

John Cena - Oh I know so many hate him but he really has to be, he's been the face of the company since 2005, and believe me I hated him more then anyone during his really long title reign of 06-07, but I actually watched raw a whole lot less when I got what I thought I wanted and orton was the champ. The guys been such a workhorse the last few years he's completely dominated the main event the last 9 years and even tho he's not always the most likeable he's clearly the most superior wrestler on the rooster today.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

As much as the rock is famous for being a movie star and deservedly so, to put him in this mount Rushmore just seems wrong to me as it should be purely about professional wrestling and not general fame.

Blasphemy!

The Rock is the greatest WWE superstar of all time before he went to Hollywood.

The Rock should unquestionably be on WWE's Mt Rushmore

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

Blasphemy!

The Rock is the greatest WWE superstar of all time before he went to Hollywood.

The Rock should unquestionably be on WWE's Mt Rushmore

It's not Blasphemy, Reasonably there can be at least two mount rushmore's without him depending on how you define it. (more than that if you use wrestling skills as it's own personal category.

Andre, Bruno, Hogan, Austin.

It's hard to argue with that list, and i know you can but in truth, it's hard to argue that a reasonable person couldn't put that as their list. Andre was bigger than wrestling when he was around.

Bruno, was well bruno. I don't think I really have to qualify this one.

Hogan, again dude made wrestling twice. Nuff said.

And you can debate who was bigger Austin or Rock, but I don't think it's blasphemy for someone to put Austin on the list considering what he did in the Attitude Era and how big he was at that time.

Just sayin, Rock's great and all but there are reason beyond reasonable that someone could not include him.

 

[WWFan79]

Taking into account what Rushmore represents, and why the Presidents are there, here's my Four and their relation to the Presidents:

1) Bruno Sammartino (George Washington): While Buddy Rogers was the first WWWF Champion after Vince Sr. broke away from the NWA, which to me is = Declaration of Independence, a strong Champ was needed to really legitimize its independence and contend against the NWA.

They needed a George Washington to 'Lead' the fight for that land and right of independence. Bruno becoming WWWF Champ, is like Washington beating Britain, really making the World take notice, and making WWWF into a independent regional powerhouse in the most important market. NWA (Britain) couldn't F with Bruno (Washington)

2) Andre the Giant (Thomas Jefferson): Up there as a founding Father, just like how Jefferson wrote the constitution. Andre laid the architect for ther idea of 'Attraction' and making wrestling really LARGER than Life.

Jefferson also doubled the land of the United States. Also greatly expanding the US as a geographical powerhouse. Vince Sr. still worked with the NWA promoters by 'Loaning' Andre for favors in return, and getting what he wanted. This greatly expanded the reach and power of the WWWF against other promotions. Bruno just stayed in NY and North East.

3) Hulk Hogan - (Abraham Lincoln): Lincoln saved the US and made it into the modern country we have today. Rid the fragmentation of Slavery. Lincoln consolidated the US as a nation and its identity, as Hulk really consolidated the identity and power base of the WWF laying the foundation (ie PPVs, WM, Live programming) in the modern global powerhouse it is today.

4) Stone Cold Steve Austin (Theodore Roosevelt) - Ironically, probably the most similar in style, temperament, beliefs, hobbies. Theodore Roosevelt actually took all the foundation built before the forefathers and catapulted the US into modernity. Unsurprisingly, it was virtually 100 years after another at the turn of the new century.

The way wrestling is programmed today, story lines told, the stuff they did with Stone Cold is made into modern, standard fare today: For better or worse, all the backstage storylines (just the way RAW is 'filmed'), battling the Heel Owner/General Manager. Rocky, HHH, Cena all followed what Vince and Stone Cold revolutionized.


If there was a 'second' Mt. Rushmore, I would put Cena (I'm not a fan of his at all but acknowledge his dominance in the modern era), Taker, Rock and Michaels.

I forgot to add, Vince McMahon and his father is more like Congress, the Executive and Judicial Branch. They are the Institution. You can't really put them up on Mt. Rushmore IMO.

 

[RedRegan1005]

Cool thread. My Mt. Rushmore would be:

Vincent Kennnedy McMahon- The mastermind of it all. He some times hits and muses but when he hits with an idea it's great. Without him who knows what the wrestling business would be like

Bruno Sammartino- No explanation needed the first face of the company ever

Hulk Hogan- The who was the face wrestling during it's first big boom in the 80's. Is he a great tactician? Absolutely not. But Hulkania was huge and he changed wrestling and wwe forever with it.

Stone Cold Steve Austin- McMahons smoking gun that helped him take down WCW. Without Stone Cold there is not attitude. He was the man of the WWE during its second big boom in the 90's. He was 't just a great character that fans loved either, he also doesn't et enought respect for being a great in ring talent. I would dare says that Austin 3:16 was hotter than Hulkamania at it height. It may have only been a few years until he turned heel and the attitude era was gone. But without Austin who knows what would have come from the Monday night wars. We could be sitting here talking about the Mt. Rushmore of WCW and the guys who helped ted and company put WWE out of business.

Honorable mentions:

The Rock- He was the MOST electrifying man in sports entertainment. Many people feel as though he was number 2 to Austin. But if you ranked them on a ten point scale Austin was a ten and the rock was a 9.9 when ever Austin was out with an injury it was the rocks company to run with and he did just as good as the rock. Also without him there to be the ultimate rival to Austin who knows how's things could have turned out.

John Cena- Cena has been Vince's chosen one and the face of WWE for almost ten years give or take. The reason why I didn't put him in my four is cause while Cena has been the man for the last decade, his dominance hasn't resulted in the statistical and economical boom that the likes of Hogan and Austin did.

If this was a Mt. Rushmore of WWE based on in ring skill and match quality it would look much different in my mind. But mine was based off of the impact they had on WWE not in ring ability.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Hulk Hogan
This should be obvious. The most famous wrestler of all time and easily the top guy of his era. He was a generational icon and 30 years later, Hulkamania is still well known.

Stone Cold
One of the top two guys during the most popular time in WWE history and one of the most popular wrestlers ever. We've all had authority figures we wanted to stand up to, Austin got to do it for a living. Memorable catch phrases, memorable feuds, and more.

The Rock
The second of two top guys during the Attitude Era. Could get reactions out of the crowd like no other. The Rock is one of, if not the, best on the mic out of any WWE wrestler ever. He deserves to get in for the endless list of classic moments he provided.

John Cena
Say whatever you wish about his inclusion, but Cena deserves it. He has been the face of the federation for almost 10 years non-stop and has done his best to put on matches for fans who continue to hate him for no legitimate reason. Then there's his inspirational Never Give Up attitude, and all his publicity work.

Honorable mention goes to Undertaker for his streak and to Shawn Michaels for being the best in-ring competitor ever to set foot in WWE, they call him Mr Wrestlemania for a reason.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

It's not Blasphemy, Reasonably there can be at least two mount rushmore's without him depending on how you define it. (more than that if you use wrestling skills as it's own personal category.

Andre, Bruno, Hogan, Austin.

It's hard to argue with that list, and i know you can but in truth, it's hard to argue that a reasonable person couldn't put that as their list. Andre was bigger than wrestling when he was around.

Bruno, was well bruno. I don't think I really have to qualify this one.

Hogan, again dude made wrestling twice. Nuff said.

And you can debate who was bigger Austin or Rock, but I don't think it's blasphemy for someone to put Austin on the list considering what he did in the Attitude Era and how big he was at that time.

Just sayin, Rock's great and all but there are reason beyond reasonable that someone could not include him.

It's not blasphemy to not include Rock.

It's blasphemy to discredit Rock of his accomplishments in WWF/E.

Rock was arguably the G.O.A.T. before he left WWE.


Also, The Rock was / is a bigger wrestling star than Andre.

Andre was huge at his time and probably more known than Rock in the US but worldwide no doubt Rock is a bigger superstar.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

It's not blasphemy to not include Rock.

It's blasphemy to discredit Rock of his accomplishments in WWF/E.

Rock was arguably the G.O.A.T. before he left WWE.


Also, The Rock was / is a bigger wrestling star than Andre.

Andre was huge at his time and probably more known than Rock in the US but worldwide no doubt Rock is a bigger superstar.

See again this is debatable but I will give credit where credit is due. I don't think the rock was the greatest but the argument can be made that the Rock was. Now where I disagree with you is that the Rock was a bigger star than Andre.

You yourself have said Andre was practically a God in Japan, and he was known all over the world. But during Andre's prime when he was the biggest star, alot of people around the world didn't know who any of those wrestlers where. Now a wrestler is known all over the world just because of the global technology that we have. I could say Kofi Kingston is a bigger world wide star than Andre was in his day. Mostly due to the fact Kofi is more well known. Not discrediting your opinion at all. To a certain degree I agree with you.

But that said I don't discredit the Rock before he left, I just haven't been a huge fan since his return. I love the guys movies and think he's incredible and his career was such.

Most of his career is amazing, I haven't liked his comeback. You can hate on me for that but I haven't found him nearly as entertaining this time. I would never argue Rock SHOULDN'T be on someone Mount Rushmore but I can totally see why one might leave him off.

 

[Kidpolean]

See again this is debatable but I will give credit where credit is due. I don't think the rock was the greatest but the argument can be made that the Rock was. Now where I disagree with you is that the Rock was a bigger star than Andre.

You yourself have said Andre was practically a God in Japan, and he was known all over the world. But during Andre's prime when he was the biggest star, alot of people around the world didn't know who any of those wrestlers where. Now a wrestler is known all over the world just because of the global technology that we have. I could say Kofi Kingston is a bigger world wide star than Andre was in his day. Mostly due to the fact Kofi is more well known. Not discrediting your opinion at all. To a certain degree I agree with you.

But that said I don't discredit the Rock before he left, I just haven't been a huge fan since his return. I love the guys movies and think he's incredible and his career was such.

Most of his career is amazing, I haven't liked his comeback. You can hate on me for that but I haven't found him nearly as entertaining this time. I would never argue Rock SHOULDN'T be on someone Mount Rushmore but I can totally see why one might leave him off.

I dont think that leaving him off of the Mt. Rushmore is the problem here, the problem is WHO some people left him off for. IMO, the only poeple that should even be considered are Hogan, Austin, Rock, Andre, Vince, and Bruno. Some people on here have guys like Taker, HBK, Cena, Flair(which is completely ridiculous for what should be obvious reasons), and Bret on the Mt.Rushmore while leaving The Rock off. Now im not saying that i am 100% correct and all the others are wrong BUT imo there is really no logical and acceptable reason to put any of these guys on here above the 6 guys I named earlier. I think that any combination of Hogan, Bruno, Rock, Austin, Vince, and Andre is reasonable and logical. Some people may argue that Vince doesn't belong on the list but that is debatable. If you take out the fact that he is the owner, and only look at the character Mr. Mcmahon than I think he still has a chance to be atleast in the convo. BUT if we are considering non wrestlers, than JR imo, is also an option.

 

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Its gotta be Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock & John Cena the BIGGEST names in the industry.

Mt Rushmore makes me think of founding fathers however which should be more old school including Ric Flair, Bruno Sammartino & maybe Bob Backlund