Alright, you have the accolades, you are in with the crowd here, and you think you have proved something by trying to dismantle my genuine, sincere, and heart-felt post regarding the quality of house shows and the all around experience of going to one. This is a sign of weakness, and it shows that my words are closer to the mark than you are comfortable with. Otherwise you would not have come at me as you did. But you did, and now it is my turn to go through and pick apart your words. You may beat up on people who are ill-equipped to challenge you around here, but I am not one of them, and it is time for you to learn that. This is not a flame war so don't anyone start beating that horse, I am simply going to make an example, and a point. Lord Sidious, Darth Rage has engaged you, now it is time to pay the piper.
I will start by pointing out the numerous times you stoop to an expected low by referring to me directly and indirectly as....Whatever slanderous thing you could think to call me. This is a major sign of your weakness and fear that someone might expose your ideals as flawed, so you go into defense mode. You obviously must have felt attacked since I said your interpretation of the house show was skewed and fragile at best which I can understand. But, You must also understand that if anyone just took what you said at face value they would think that there was no real value in the event, and that sir is the lie, not anything I said. Now let's observe what you had to say.
Actually, no. My view was right on the money, and anyone that does not put themselves in the mindset of a blind WWE loyalist smark
So here you label me as a blind loyalist and a smark, which obviously has everything to do with the topic right? No, this is just a feeble attempt at trying to devalue my honest opinion and observation which carries with it more power than any of your "Hate-Rant" because it comes from the heart.
Although since you want to play the role of an "Apologist Shareholder", who defends Vince giving less than stellar, half-ass shows , let's go through some of your comments.
Once again attaching labels, and now issuing an indirect challenge. Once again you display your never ending class.
You make it so easy for Vince to take advantage of you. You really do.
And now here you basically try to put my intelligence at question, which is neither within your ability or any of your business, not to mention, has nothing to do with the actual topic at hand. This is more of your weak hatefulness. And right off the bat you show that you aren't really interested in the topic, you want to try and beat someone down with words which is pathetic, cruel, and mean spirited and ultimately will always lead to your downfall.
Moving on. Let's see what other musings you entitled us all to.
So in other words, you are in a market in the US that isn't very populated, so you are pretty much happy to take whatever you can get?
This is a twisting of my words, and although clever, a very flawed strategy. Your going to have to do much better than that if you are going to achieve your goal.
I never said that I was happy to take anything I can get. I was making the point that although the average house show has little value to you, that to some it is a very big deal. That doesn't mean that I am willing to settle for less, it means that I am grateful for what I get which is something you obviously do not understand, and that's ok. Maybe after this little soirée you will. Would I like all the props and lights and so on? Sure, but it doesn't burst my bubble if they aren't present because the product is good enough without it to suffice.
And because Vince knows you should be satisfied getting whatever the WWE gives you, you are actually advocating him providing you with a lesser quality show than what it could be?
I've got to call "bullshit" on this one, that is not true in the slightest. It was already well explained that due to the economics of the geographic location here that we automatically aren't going to get those bigger shows most of the time. This has nothing to do with advocating anything, that is simply an accusation. It has everything to do with the fact that it would not be as profitable for them. Think about all the man power that goes into setting all that up, and the cost of it. If you know you aren't going to make as much money as it takes to run the show with all the dressings and preparations you mandated, than it is an economically stupid choice to just go ahead and take a loss, or less profit than you other wise would make.
So just because Iowa is a C market, everyone else in the country should have to settle for less, just because you are willing to settle for less?
Tisk, tisk. Once again you put words in my mouth, and make invalid assumptions. I never said anything to that effect, of made any inference to that point. My point was that for as bad as you are trying to say that the house shows are, they are still very special to many others as is. The point lying therein is that it doesn't take all the lights, and stage, and so on that you mentioned for people to get what they want, or to feel that they got their moneys worth. They present a good enough product as is, anything more is just icing on the cake. Could they do more? Yes. But as I stated earlier, in smaller markets would that be economically intelligent? No. So much for the big evil WWE just trying to give as little as possible, and take as much as possible. Remember it is business, and the business of entertainment.
Ever been to a live concert at a small club or bar? I am sure you have, and I am sure that at one of those you have had every bit as good a time as when you may have went to a big concert somewhere else. Why? Because good entertainment is simply that, good entertainment. It's not all about the lights, and stages, and big cinematics. If it's good music it doesn't matter whether you hear it in a dive bar or a big arena, it's still good and it still satisfies.
You standing up for WWE giving you a sub-par show, just because you are in a less populated area and advocating being taken advantage of is just mind-blowing.
Ahhh, here we go. More false accusations and libelous statements that have little to nothing to do with the topic, and in fact hurt your argument. First of all, what you're pushing is nothing short of a weakly framed conspiracy theory claiming "We are all being taken advantage of, they are screwing us at every pass". That couldn't be further from the truth, and just because you might not like how they do some things, doesn't mean they are trying to screw anyone. That just sounds like paranoia and fear, fear of what you can not control, and paranoia that your conspiracy theory is actually happening. I never advocated anything, I never said anyone should settle for less. If that is how you chose to twist my words to interpret them, once again that is your folly not mine.
You may see different matches, but it is essentially the same show, same format, every single time. Nothing changes.
Well obviously to some degree, yes this is true. But only a slight truth. Most matches do have the same format, but that is anywhere not just house shows. You said it yourself "They are practice or warm up matches for the bigger events" So yeah that is true, but does nothing for your argument because it proves nothing. And since they do only come through here once or twice a year, as I said it is always a different show, different experience, different matches. We generally get the Raw roster once, and the Smack Down/ECW roster once over the year.
So you go up and interview people after the show and participate in satisfaction surveys?
Although I appreciate your cynicism, No I don't, don't have to. You can see it amongst all the people, there is a feeling that kind of emanates all around. Maybe it's the roaring crowds, and the merchandise that flies off the kiosks, and the general excitement of everyone before and after the show. It is not something you can just explain, it is something you feel and you witness.
So getting less for your money, with no lights, and the absolute bare minimum, where even Indy shows put forth more of an effort into than what you see at a WWE House Show makes you feel "special"?
Who is to say anyone is getting less for their money. Tickets start at $10-16 and for that you get 3 or 4 hours of action from the WWE superstars you normally only get to see on t.v., and get to be apart of the event itself. Not a bad investment. Even if you spent the most on tickets and shelled out around $70 you get to be that much closer to the action, and that also has a bit to do with the overall experience which still isn't bad.
The whole thing comes back to gratitude, and obviously that concept has escaped you in some way. Why is it necessary to have all that other stuff for it to be a good show to you? Isn't the wrestling enough? Isn't the opportunity to see it live for yourself enough? When is it enough? I have the feeling that even if they did all the stuff you wanted them to do, you would still not be satisfied. Then it would be that the booking sucked, and the matches were wrestled horribly, and this and that and the next thing because even though you say my standards are too low, your seem to be unreachable.
You mentioned that the indy promotions put forth more effort than the WWE does at house shows, but guess what? That's cause they have to. They have to because they don't have as good a product or the resources to create a better one, so they have to make a bigger effort to win you over because they need you a hell of a lot more than the WWE. If that is what you are looking for, a promotion to pander to you, than maybe the WWE is the wrong product for you. You should maybe stick to those thriving indy promotion shows, and see if they are going to cater to you as much as you expect the WWE to.
And the only problem is that nothing further could be from the truth. Everyone on the road that week, or for several weeks, even ... gets pretty much the exact same show.
Ah, Ah, Ah your making more assumptions. Are you on the road to with the WWE to see that every show is the same? No you are not. I know they generally stick to a program, but that doesn't mean every match is the same, and that every interaction with the crowd is the same. As I stated originally, it is special in a way because it is not televised, it is a show just for you, and not you or I would know if it is the same as any other show because it is as I stated, for the house on that one night which as I stated makes it something special.
You are misleading the posters. What happened after that match was over? Did the title stay with The Miz?
No I am not misleading anyone, that seems to be your forte as you have tried to twist everything I've said to make yourself look like some kind of superior authority and me as some bumbling idiot. We watched the Miz pin Kofi Kingston, for the title, right there, clean and clear. He left with the title as the new champion, and nothing was ever mentioned about it on t.v. The next time Raw was on, Kofi was the champion, and The Miz won it very shortly after at a pay-per-view. The whole point of me telling this story was to counter your point that there are never title changes at house shows. In this case there was, but it wasn't acknowledged which I also informed people so no, I didn't mislead anyone.
And still my point stands that we got to see something happen before it actually happened as scheduled which was another little aspect of the house show that made it special to myself and the thousands of fans there as their uproarious applause and cheering made quite obvious. But, you weren't there, how would you know? It was for us, that night, we saw it, no one else, you see where this is going?
100% bullshit. Absolutely nothing compared to going to a TV or PPV event.
And by the time the show is over, I doubt very seriously that fans are all that thrilled with what they got.
House Shows are very mediocre shows. Again, no effort goes into them on the part of WWE, at all.
Really? How so? Because you will it? Because you say so? No. That is your opinion, and unfortunately for you my real life accounts of house shows that were awesome, discredit everything you've said. Also you again twist and mangle my words in an attempt to bring them to your advantage which you fail at doing. I stated that house shows aren't a lame, lack-luster, money pit, that it was just like going to any other sporting event. How that is so was where you took the interpretation south, and the meaning behind what I was saying fled you. My point was that they are every bit as exciting, that there is still a certain aura or feeling in the air at these events. People are anticipate and get very excited for them just as they do other big events, which points back to house shows not being the debacle you claim them to be.
Next I was explaining the thrill of preparing for the event and the excitement that is drawn from the whole experience. My point here is that it doesn't take flashy lights, and stage, and title matches, and this laundry list of unnecessary stuff to have a good show, that people enjoy, and get a lot out of. Here is what you said.
Half of which are confiscated.
This is in reference to my statement about the fun of the whole experience where I start at "from making your signs" He cynically tries to put that aside as it doesn't help his argument by saying that half of them are confiscated, which can happen from time to time but still has nothing to do with the fun of making them before the show, which as I stated was all apart of the experience.
See I was describing the all around experience talking about how you make your signs, put on your favorite wrestlers merchandise, bring along your belts, try to find good parking, try to get autographs, so on and so forth. Little things that are all apart of the magic and the experience that make it all the better. Lord Sidious foolishly states.
This.
Well, be my guest if you do that stuff. How is that any different from what fans do at any WWE event? Can fans only do this when they go to House Shows?
And This.
How is that any different from attending any other WWE event?
This is exactly the point, it is just like any other WWE event, and you have now made my case for me. The only difference is the lack of a few sparkley shiny things that are appealing to the eye and other unnecessary filler that people like you generally bitch about being on the shows while you watch them on T.V. This just makes my case further as the house show is really the unadulterated, pure product without all the other mumbojumbo that you chastise them for adding most of the time yet here you are begging for it in un-televised events which is a contradiction of your own standards and points to hypocrisy.
Lets check out what other gems of knowledge you bestowed on us.
They do this at all House Shows. So what you are getting is no special than what everyone else gets.
Ah-Ha, but are getting no less right? Exactly. And it is as I said kind of special no matter what because of the fan interaction that I noted. You think it's going to matter to me if they do the same thing in Hackensack, New Jersey("Brewster's Millions" plug)? No. They do it here, for us, when it matters to us, making it special to....you guessed it, US!
[/QUOTE]The Trivia thing is nice, but it happens all the time, and is really nothing new. [/QUOTE]
I never said it was anything new, you suggest in your statement that I did which is a false representation of what I actually did say. But alas, you agree that it is kind of cool. At least we agree on something.
Okay, so they take pictures and all that stuff out back. They do autographs, pics, and all that stuff frequently ... airports, restaurants (when they are not eating), etc. Granted, it is less likely to happen at TV as things are more rushed, but it still happens there as well.
Ok here, you seem to be running out of steam, and just arguing points to argue them. You should know a Sith draws his power from his passion, and at this point it is clear that yours has run dry for the most part, and as a result the power of your words and statements flees as well. You do however concede that the experience I spoke of is more likely to happen at a house show, which means more opportunity to actually meet your favorite superstars, and get autographs and pictures, which points again to the fact that house shows are not a rip and in fact as I stated have their own charm, and special aspects to them.
You are justifying a complete lack of effort on WWE's part here ... amazing. It's sad when Indy groups make more of an effort at providing lighting effects than WWE, "the recognized leader in sports entertainment" does.
You don't need a stage, nor all the LED lights above the ring, necessarily. But at least spruce up the entranceway, if nothing else. That isn't too much to ask.
Here you continue the spin-zone trend and twist what I said into "Justifying a lack of effort" in some way which is the furthest thing from the truth. And then carry on with what becomes a trend of arguing to argue as you have no notable or valid points to make. Here is what I said.
I also think that the absence of all the flashy entrance ways, lighting rigs, and all that stuff make it a little more special as well. All you see is the light on the ring, and the spotlight that follows them as they walk from a dark curtain, and that adds a little mystique to it and a more personalized feel. It seems more authentic and genuine because it's not on t.v. or pay-per-view.
If I am guilty of anything here, it is of not going into further detail to explain my disposition in an attempt to be somewhat brief. Apparently however one must explain down to the finest details why they think or feel what they do. What I was getting at there and what I should have explained further was how the absence of all the flashy stuff kind of adds to what is going on in the ring as there are no other distractions to your attention. When all you see is the dark curtain and the light beaming down on the ring, it is more commanding of your attention to the ring, rather than the LED show on the entrance way and the titantron. This means that more than likely your eyes are going to be glued on the action not the scenery and in doing so you are going to get a better feel for the match and the storytelling within and drama within it. This goes for everybody, especially the casual fan, so don't try to pull that whole WWE acolyte thing either. It makes it special because you don't have any of that other stuff you mentioned, and yet instead of the effect being from the scenery and the stage, it comes from the actual match, not some gimmick.
Now I know you are a WWE mark and are simply lying. Not a single bad match, ever? Give me a break.
Now, since all your fire is really gone and you've lost steam, you attempt yet again to make false accusations, call me names, and make feeble attempts at discrediting anything I have to say. Unfortunately for you, I have no reason to lie, I am not lying, and I am not a mark. I have been to plenty of shows and as I said, I have never been witness at any of the shows I have been to, to a bad match. This is also partially due to the whole experience that I explained and you tried to discredit and sweep under the rug to no avail. Believe what you want, they are my experiences, not yours. And for you to try and claim I am a liar, and a mark just shows how desperate you are to try and bring someone down who has something different to add when it doesn't serve your ideals or agenda.
I'm guessing you didn't see a title change in that match, and kind of new well in advance not to even come close to expecting one either.
That is what I am getting at ... the predictability factor.
True, the title did not change hands, and yes we knew well in advance that it wouldn't. But that didn't take away from the match or the overall show. I was 6th row ringside and it was pretty freakin sweet from where I was sitting. And as far as predictability goes, if I am not mistaken, you were saying they should have the cards advertised well in advance correct? Well, that would completely obliterate the "unpredictability" factor too wouldn't it? I'm pretty sure common sense and logic takes care of that one.
Yeah, the Main Event usually delivers, but the whole show on average, does NOT deliver. As I stated, the things I advocate either don't cost much extra to do, or cost nothing at all to do. So why would you not advocate it?
First of all, your feelings on the rest of the show not delivering are just that, yours. They are no more valid because you stated them, and I am willing to wager most people would disagree if they are unbiased and not in your favor. As for your "Changes" I must ask, Are you in charge of the WWE expense accounts? Are you the guy who weighs profit over loss and expenses? My money says no, and that being true means that you really have no idea if your "Changes" would or would not cost, and if they did how much or how little. This is another one of your failed assumptions.
You said they should always have the titantron, and the stage set up, and the lighting, posted match cards in advance and so on. Well, all that costs money to set up, transport, maintenance should anything go wrong, it takes time in the buildings they rent which is more money, the eight week in advance card would give away spoilers in some cases possibly which would really take away from that "unpredictability" aspect you're so high on, the extra time it takes to set up and tear down would alter and throw off their schedule possibly costing more money, the labor they would have to pay out would skyrocket, and who knows what else. See, your ideas aren't so keen after all. Your intentions are noble, I'll give you that. But, your sitting there trying to convince me, and everyone else that you are basically the asset the WWE hasn't attained, that is holding them back from further success, a better product, and greater efficiency. I'm sorry but I'm not buying. I hear that all the time as most of you think you know how to better run the WWE, but in fact know absolutely nothing about running a billion dollar business that is on the road constantly. I am not saying that I can, or that I know more than anyone else about it. I am saying I highly doubt that you do.
You are simply making excuses for WWE not putting forth the effort they could be putting forth, and this is a classic "WWE Shareholder"-like mentality. If you are offered a better quality show, you are arguing right now that you wouldn't want it? Gotta love them "Shareholders".
And the trend of simple name calling and pointless ranting continues. Where did I ever make an excuse? I, not one time, made any excuse for anything or anyone. And then you accuse me of having some kind of "Shareholder Mentality" If you mean business minded than yes in some ways you are right, but in the context you try to use it, it is mediocre, insufficient, and impractical. If I were offered a better product, of course I would take it. You are the one who said otherwise, but once again I have to get back to that little "Gratitude" thing. See, I like others am grateful for the little extra pleasures I get in life. Going to a wrestling show, televised or not, is one of them.
You tried to argue that the house shows are crap, I offered the opinion and explanation of that opinion to show otherwise. And this is how you respond? I try to point out all the good things about them, and show that they too have a great deal to offer, but you can not accept that as it goes against your big "WWE Overhaul" plan because it stated that there is nothing wrong with them as is, which means none of your "Changes" are necessary.
I am talking about giving the show a more important feel, and an "Anything can happen at anytime" feel. That is what I want to see instilled in House Shows. They need to be part of the WWE creative operation, instead of simply a money-making opportunity to invest nothing in the show, and reap all the profits. What I advocate is WWE making an investment in these shows, because I feel if they do, it will payoff not only in the form of increased attendance for future House Show business, but also would be good for the entire WWE business, as it will OVERALL stimulate more interest in the product.
As I stated earlier, your intentions are noble and I give you that. But I think that you just don't understand how much it would really take to make all those changes and keep them on a regular basis. As I noted earlier, there is already so much that goes into the whole process, not just house shows, the impact of all that could be potentially detrimental to them, and they are surely not going to risk it to find out. You ever heard that old saying "If it's not broke, don't fix it." Well, I think that is the case with the House Show system. It works, it always has worked, and they aren't going to change a system that they know does to see if they can boost attendance or possibly loose tons and tons of money trying to make all those adjustments.
In the long run once again I will say your intentions are noble, but I would have to say they are also unrealistic in a lot of ways. I know you "Think" all that would work, and technically in an ideal situation it might, but there is nothing to prove it, so....you can't. The house show as is, is fine. Could it be better? Obviously in some aspects to some people. But what I am getting at is that they are good enough that the same recipe has worked for years and years and years. People still go to them and have a great time, and even though the things you think should be more prevalent in the product are not, most others are fine with it. You are the first person I have ever seen make such a big deal about so many minor things, which should tell you that most everyone else is ok with things the way they are.
Here's something else for you. If was anything other than what it is, it would no longer be what it is, and take the shape of something else. Meaning that if you try to change everything about the house show, it will no longer be a house show. There will be nothing to separate it from a televised event besides the cameras which inevitably would devalue the televised product, because "Anyone could go to a house show and see the same thing" It is what it is for a reason, and it serves it own purpose. Forcing it to do otherwise would mess it all up, and turn it into something it was never meant to be.
Again, so you think just because fans in Iowa don't get TV often, and are willing to settle for a bare bones minimal show ... you think everyone else in the country should settle for exactly what you are willing to settle for?
Ah-No, Again you twist my words, and take them for meaning something else. I said:
Whether it's simply to rake up more profits or not is of no concern to the fans in the seats, they are getting something that they don't get to see that often, and it is worth it to them to pay and see it, so no harm no foul.
Meaning, there is no great injustice going on, if there were people wouldn't gladly buy their tickets a month or two in advance, and wait all year for the shows. Whether the WWE only comes through for that one extra pay day or not doesn't matter to the casual fan, they just want to see the show. If the standard house show wasn't worth it to them, they wouldn't go, period.
I've attended House Shows for almost 20 years. And still to this day, I look at the situation from the eyes of the casual fan in what I feel they would want to see and what they would expect out of a WWE House Show when they attend.
Well, pardon me but from where I sit it doesn't sound like that at all. It sounds more to me like you are marveling at your own self perceived genius since you seem to have all the answers, and want everyone else to recognize it as well. You only talked the whole time about what YOU wanted to see, not anyone else, so where do you get off trying to turn it into anything but that? Now suddenly you decide all this is for "The People" and the "Casual Fan" when all you've talked about were the flaws of the WWE and how great your ideas to "Fix" it are.
Everyone has a threshold level for what they are willing to tolerate. Because you are in a B market, you are willing to tolerate a lot more then perhaps what fans in a better-rated market is willing to tolerate.
Oh I thought of that long ago. That was what I was getting at about being "Grateful" for everything. You and others like you who are privy to access to more televised events, pay-per-views, and larger venues probably do take for granted the simplicity, and the simple splendor of a good old fashioned house show. That lead me to another though. You would have been screwed any time before the 90's or so since the emphasis for everyone, mega fans and casual alike, was on the in ring product, and wasn't flashy, and wasn't over the top. That is the feel a bare bones house show gives, it is old school, down to the nitty gritty, as I said no distractions, all eyes on the ring, and the ability to bring that old school vibe in modern times is another one of the little things that makes it just a bit more special. Just a thought.
Where as I am a member of the IWC as well, I feel who I look out for are the Casual Fans, when I formulate my opinions about what the WWE should and should not do. They are the majority, not the IWC. And that takes me back in many respects to the kind of things I looked for when I was a kid, and some of the things I would have liked to have seen at House Shows, as well.
Yeah, ok bleeding-heart. From everything I have seen of you and what you have had to say during your tenure here, when you formulate your opinions it is for no reason other than to belittle others and make them feel stupid for sharing their thoughts, feelings, and experiences, and you are surely not looking out for anyone but yourself. That is what I, and I guarantee many others see. I relate to the "What I wanted to see as a kid" thing, but we aren't kids anymore, the business has changed since then, and it will only move forward, not shape shift into the childhood fantasy many of us have all imagined. There is really no excuse for you acting the way you do most of the time, like your better than most, or at least those who don't have a higher standing than you in this community, and taking cheap shots at people.
So I feel I put myself in the mindset of a Casual Fan, that advocates putting on a first class show ... and the SHOW is what I focus on, more so than solely the quality of wrestling. I'd like good quality wrestling on the show, but there needs to be more to give the fans a much better impression that they take away from the show.
Well, that is your opinion, your view, and you are entitled to it. However, more often than not in reality you can't always have the best of both worlds. What I think you are missing, and is the element that gives that better lasting impression you are looking for, is all the little things I talked about, that make a house show or any WWE event worth while, and fun. It's the whole experience not just the show itself. Maybe you should get back to trying to just be grateful, being excited, having fun, and enjoying the event, rather than trying to always criticize it, and find it's flaws. It's the difference between positive and negative thinking.
I do have high standards. But then again, many would argue that your standards are simply too low.
My standards have nothing to do with the conversation, or my feelings about the house show. I like to believe that my standards are pretty high as well, but I generally only apply them to the on-air product because I know already what to expect from a house show, and the two are not the same, with good reason. The criticism is aimed at the on-air product because the standards are higher for it than the house show, with good reason as well. There is a firm distinction between the two. I don't expect a house show to be like a live Raw or Smack Down, and having expectations of such an event are unrealistic, and set you up for disappointment. That is your fault, not the WWE's but you'll probably say that's just me making more excuses for them.
But essentially what I derive out of you is that the only thing you expect from House Shows are:
- Good matches
- Wrestler Interactions before/after the shows
And that is not what I consider to be enough in terms of "putting on a good, lasting impression in regards to an actual Show or Event for the patrons.
Well, that is part of what I expect not everything. If that is all you derive that is too bad because you have missed the point entirely but we already established that didn't we? I expect to have fun, that is what I expect. In order for me to have fun, I like to have my friends with me, my girlfriend, my belts, I want to see good matches, I want the crowd to be into it, I want the over priced arena food, crowded bathrooms, If I can an autograph, I want the matches to have some relation to what is going on in the actual storylines, I want to be close to the ring, and I want to just be able to watch, interact, and enjoy period. If that means I have low standards so be it. In fewer words that's about all I need. I also want the lighting, and the ramp, and the pyros, and all the other junk, but I am ok without it. It doesn't ruin it for me if they aren't there. So I wouldn't say I have low standards, I simply refuse to let little things like that ruin for me as you have allowed it to do to you. That is what makes us different, as I mentioned earlier, the difference between negative thinking and positive thinking.
I hope this has been enough for you, and you as well as others have learned something. Please in the future be more kind in the words you choose, how you use them, and on whom you use them. I do not wish to make enemies with anyone, but I will not tolerate you or anyone else being blatantly rude to me as you were, or trying to make some kind of example out of me. That is not how I roll, and I can play as dirty and as smart as anyone else. Leave me alone. Take this as a warning and a lesson. Accept this verbal lashing for what it was, a learning experience, and take yourself away from me. I have no further use for this conversation, or you. Have a nice day.
