WWE Eying Beer Money?

[It's Damn Real!]

According to PWInsider, that is...

There has been talk internally about The Brisco Brothers but they are signed to Ring of Honor. There has also been a lot of talk about TNA's Beer Money and bringing them in once they are able to get away from TNA.

I guess the flourishing careers of Kaval, Brayden Walker, Gail Kim and all those other huge WWE successes who were ex-TNA is just too hard to turn up, eh?

In all seriousness, though, how would you feel if James Storm and Robert Roode indeed left TNA for WWE? How would it affect TNA?

In addition, what do you think the chances are of it actually happening?

 

[Zeven_Zion]

I'm all for it if they'll use them as well or better in the WWE as they are/were in TNA. Would I miss them in TNA? Sure. Would they be used better in WWE? Nope. How do I know? Well history is my bitch. Show me ONE person who went from being someone in TNA to being someone just as important or more in the WWE, who didn't work for WWE previously.

The chances of it happening are slim to none. They already rejected Roode once and I doubt they ever wanted Storm. Can't tell me Roode was flattered. Plus, WWE doesn't respect tag team wrestling. They don't understand it, they don't want it.

Beer Money will be available in 2013 or 2014 I believe. Maybe WWE will revamp their shit until then. Maybe they'll revive their tag division and it'll all be aws-...*remembers what it was like in 2007*...- then again, maybe not.

 

[klunderbunker]

I really don't see how any TNA fan wouldn't be thrilled by this. WWE doesn't know how to book tag teams right? Roode is the biggest potential breakout star ever right (even though Storm is better)? Well then what could be better than Roode going to TNA and splitting from Storm? Right TNA super fans?

Anyway, I don't think this is anything to take seriously. However if it is, TNA could be in trouble. This reminds me (on a FAR smaller scale of course) of the WCW exodus in 1999. When guys like the Radicalz and Jericho and Big Show left, WCW lost the core of their roster. In TNA, Beer Money are some of the few guys you can almost guarantee a decent match out of. I mean think about it: when's the last time you saw a truly bad Beer Money match? I don't think it'll happen, and hopefully TNA doesn't let it because that could hurt them more than it seems on paper.

 

[GrandSword]

I remember when the WWF brought in the Dudley Boys for the first time, a lot of WWF fans had no idea who they were. Then they started getting wins and over time everyone knew who they were and created such great rivalries with the Hardyz and E&C.

Now the WWE today doesn't really think too much of it's tag division but if they brought in this different looking team (much like the Dudleys were different to the pretty boys of the Hradyz and E&C) it could create a new era in tag wrestling for the E.

The Impact on TNA would be one of loss as these guys are originals but I just think that no matter how over they are in TNA, that upper management just wont give them their break. They wont give them the ball in the main event. I could be wrong but after 8 years you'd think that they would be there by now if they were going to be. If they are going to mid carders, they might as well get paid a shit load of money doing it.

As a TNA fan I wouldn't want them to go, but I don't think they will be pushed to the ME and TNA has really nothing for them outside of tag wrestling. It's a shame but it is what it is.

 

[LegendKiller716]

I would like to see it. I think they are more likely to break out as single stars in WWE. In TNA it looks like they want to push younger guys to the top, and I don't think Roode or Storm are in their plans.

I would actually prefer if Roode either stayed in TNA or came to WWE as a singles star, and then Storm and Harris would be brought in as a team. Then again I'm not sure how quick Harris would like to return to WWE....Braden Walker...terrible. That being said, I guess it's better than welfare.

 

[AmerikanWolves619]

Agreed...even though the WWE is starting to show some glimmers with the Usos, New Nexus (or whatever, they are calling themselves), and the possibility of bringing in the KOW, the E is no longer looking at tag teams to be market driven. When was the last time you saw a tag team Tshirt, basecall cap or other merchandising that was ever pushed by them (and DX does not count in this genre). We who watch programs of ROH, WWE and TNA know what each company is striving for, what they see as marketable, and what they see as "true to the wrestling profession."

 

[UnBEARaBULLfan]

If Beer Money is under contract for a couple more years at the least, whose to say they wont be well established into their singles careers that have been rumored to soon take place and even be interested in jumping ship. What if Roode is a 2 time champ by then. Is he going to jump ship to go back to tagteaming or be a midcard talent? They have both seen what has happend to other TNA talents that decided to take that leap of faith for it to not work out.

I'm sure some of this will factor into whatever decision they make as will money, hell TNA might have grown leaps and bounds by then and become the place to be you never know. But anyway Beer Money is under contract for the next couple of years so it don't matter right now if WWE is eyeing them, they cant go anywhere unless TNA releases them and I don't see that happening.

 

[jobesukulele]

I would be completely 100% dead against it... this time last year.

But given how Rob Roode literally put Immortal in check mate on their live Impact last year, in a position that was naturally there to elevate him straight into main events... and they still managed to fumble it and erase all the pay off his hard work had achieved...

Has lead me to be open to it. I said a while ago regarding KOW that if they come into WWE I'd like to see them come in and hold the WWE tag division hostage because of the lack of any real competition. I'd be just as happy seeing that same scenario play out with BMi holding the belts hostage.
It'd also open up potential BMi vs KOW feuds which no doubt would make the tag division a lot more relevant than it has been in a long while [I'm aware that I'm a hopeless dreamer].

It's like WWE has forgot how many successful main eventers got over in a tag team before going solo, it's such a tried and tested method... [Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin (in WCW honed his skills in a team), HHH and The Rock (both were elevated to the main event through interactions within a stable), Edge, Jeff Hardy (even though I don't like to admit that one), JBL, etcetera etcetera (and probably many more)].

and... if worst comes to worst and they go to WWE but get screwed around, they can go back to TNA but as "real" stars in the TNA management's eyes because that's how they judge who deserves a push for some reason...

 

[TUFFY54]

I guess the flourishing careers of Kaval, Brayden Walker, Gail Kim and all those other huge WWE successes who were ex-TNA is just too hard to turn up, eh?

In all seriousness, though, how would you feel if James Storm and Robert Roode indeed left TNA for WWE? How would it affect TNA?

Typical TNA fan bullshit. Kaval was a cruiserweight with nobody to wrestler. Not exactly a big lose. Brayden Walker gained about 50 fucking pounds before he made his debut. Gail Kim is completely irrelevant and thought she should be the star of the show. As for the other huge WWE successes from TNA, lets take a look.

-Kharma was only being booked as the new face of the womens division before she got pregnant.

-R-Truth seems to be doing ok. You probably think he is a failure though because he didn't win the title when he main evented a PPV against the biggest star in wrestling.

-Christian is obviously being wasted after coming back from TNA. Hell, he should be way more than world champion and the top heel on Smackdown.

On to the real question. Of course Beer Money should go to the WWE. It's no different than the Kings of Wrestling. Maybe they will stay a team, or maybe they will split up. It doesn't matter. Regardless, they will make a hell of a lot more money, and be introduced to millions of new fans around the world. Not only that, but they will get to travel the world and wrestle in front of thousands of people, as opposed to wrestling in front of the same 900 people every week in Florida.

Hell, if I were a talented young wrestler, I'd be more than happy to go to work for a company that wasn't revolving around Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, and Sting in 2011.

Going to WWE is always a smart move for a wrestler. Brayden Walker sucked, but what exactly would he have been doing if he hadn't gone to the WWE. TNA was already done with him when they broke up AMW. If you want to be more than a big fish in a little pond, you have to take a chance sometime.

 

[mlp420]

As a TNA fan I wouldn't want them to go, but I don't think they will be pushed to the ME and TNA has really nothing for them outside of tag wrestling. It's a shame but it is what it is.

And what is the WWE planning on doing with them? Tag team wrestling right? And BTW do you have a crystal ball? How do you know what TNA has planned for them or anyone else? Who knows what their plans are after BFG and the Immortal Storyline is over.

And on another note, I said this on the WWE board but I'll say it again. I'm amazed at how the IWC has managed to make a story out of this despite the fact that Robert Roode is under contract for another 3 years with TNA. This is ridiculous, the guy's signed long term and we get this big story about the WWE being interested in him! What are they gonna do, a trade? This story is BS at it's finest. I have my own little conspiracy theory about stories like these but it's a different discussion for a different day.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I really don't see how any TNA fan wouldn't be thrilled by this. WWE doesn't know how to book tag teams right? Roode is the biggest potential breakout star ever right (even though Storm is better)? Well then what could be better than Roode going to TNA and splitting from Storm? Right TNA super fans?

Anyway, I don't think this is anything to take seriously. However if it is, TNA could be in trouble. This reminds me (on a FAR smaller scale of course) of the WCW exodus in 1999. When guys like the Radicalz and Jericho and Big Show left, WCW lost the core of their roster. In TNA, Beer Money are some of the few guys you can almost guarantee a decent match out of. I mean think about it: when's the last time you saw a truly bad Beer Money match? I don't think it'll happen, and hopefully TNA doesn't let it because that could hurt them more than it seems on paper.

This is what I was hoping someone would bring up, because it's exactly what I thought of when I first read it, but I didn't want to bring it up myself for fear of the fact that I'm a TNA mark making the point seem like paranoia and less like legitimate concern.

Storm and Roode are both assuredly "core" members of TNA's roster. Same with Styles, Samoa Joe, Kazarian, etc. All guys on the roster who can slot up and down it but can almost always be counted on to put on a great match no matter who they're pit against.

Like any sports team, when you start losing core members of the club, the identity of your franchise changes. That's just not something TNA (or any company, really) can afford. Just look what it did to WWE now minus Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, Batista, etc.

 

[JJYanks121]

This is what I was hoping someone would bring up, because it's exactly what I thought of when I first read it, but I didn't want to bring it up myself for fear of the fact that I'm a TNA mark making the point seem like paranoia and less like legitimate concern.

Storm and Roode are both assuredly "core" members of TNA's roster. Same with Styles, Samoa Joe, Kazarian, etc. All guys on the roster who can slot up and down it but can almost always be counted on to put on a great match no matter who they're pit against.

Like any sports team, when you start losing core members of the club, the identity of your franchise changes. That's just not something TNA (or any company, really) can afford. Just look what it did to WWE now minus Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, Batista, etc.

It's true and when it happened in WCW, the flaws in the company were more evident. The main eventers were getting old, the stories were either repetitive or ridiculous, and there was a general aura of disorder there. As your workhorses started leaving though, it became more evident. Even in the chaos, you could count on Jericho, Malenko, Benoit, Guerrero, and others having great matches and doing awesome work. Once they started leaving, that simply wasn't there and you focused more on the flaws.

This is not to say that TNA is as bad as WCW, as I'd say WCW by 1999-2000 was about as bad as you can run a promotion, but if you lose your core, it would hurt a lot. TNA sure can't afford for this to happen, but if they don't play their cards right, it could. For the right money, any wrestler will leave. We'll just have to see how this plays out.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I'd love to see Storm and/or Roode head to WWE. For me, these two are a couple of the only reasons why I've watched TNA for as long as I have. They're two very talented guys that can be counted on to put out high quality efforts inside the ring and on the mic. I think that both of them are potential main eventers.

Like everyone else, I have no idea how much these two make in TNA. We don't know exactly what TNA's finances are, though we know that they don't come anywhere close to the WWE. I'm assuming that one reason why they've stayed is that, comparatively speaking to most of the roster, they're making good money. At the end of the day, however, that's what it all comes down to.

Gail Kim can talk all she likes about not being treated with respect or used properly and all that. She knew what she was going to a company where women's wrestling wasn't relevant because she would be making a lot of money. If WWE made similar offers to Velvet Sky or Angelina Love or Sarita, they'd probably all jump ship in a heartbeat.

Wrestlers can spew all the "I'm a TNA guy" or "I'm a WWE man" propoganda that they like but money talks and bullshit walks. That's the way it's always been in wrestling and that's the way it always will be. If, and I mean IF, the WWE reaches out to Beer Money and makes them a big money offer, I'd bet my left nut that they'd do whatever they could to get out of their current relationship with TNA.

 

[Kaden]

If the WWE signs beer money, they're gonna have to drop the beer-drinking gimmick because of the PG thing...Stone Cold drinks a couple of beers but once every 10 Raw events.

 

[MisterRob]

I would totally be for this move by WWE. People can claim all they want that WWE doesn't have a tag team division and wouldn't use Beer Money properly.. but WWE wouldn't be snatching up Beer Money strictly because they want a long term, successful tag team. Sure Beer Money would likely enter the WWE, in some fashion anyways, as a tag team that would be pushed, likely win the titles, and get over with the fans. But I definitely see the long term goal being to break the two up and push them as future singles stars, and that's exactly what TNA has failed to do.

For that very reason I would much rather Beer Money go to WWE because I feel, based on TNA's track record, they're never going to push either Roode or Storm or give them the opportunity to become singles stars, let alone main event players. I don't want to see Roode, specifically, stuck in a tag team the rest of his career. I don't want to see Roode never get the chanceto reach his potential, which I believe could easily be a main event star.

TNA's track record might be great in terms of pushing the tag team division, but their track record is horrible when it comes to pushing their young talent and building stars out of them. WWE's record is the opposite, so I don't give a damn if they don't use the tag team to their fullest potential (which likely they wouldn't), because I feel like at least Roode might have a shot at breaking out and becoming a singles star on his own in the WWE. He has all the tools they look for, and I don't think him being in TNA will hold him back at all.

You can talk about TNA stars going to WWE and failing.. but Chris Harris isn't even close to the same league as Roode (or even Storm). The guy let himself go for one, he isn't aywhere near the wrestler Roode is, nor does he have even a bit of Roode's charisma and mic ability. Kaval had made it in the WWE, he left on his own accord because he felt he wasn't being used right... and he's also a tiny cruiserweight, very different from Robert Roode. R-Truth was much more established in TNA then his first run in the WWE, and look at where he is now? Daniel Bryan and CM Punk were both from other companys and not WWE made guys, and they're both accomplishing things in the WWE. I think Roode has the talent to do the same.

I would love if the WWE reinvented the tag team division (even just for a short while) with teams like the Kings of Wrestling and Beer Money; but regardless I would still much rather see Beer Money in the WWE (much like the Kings of Wrestling), because I feel like they all have potential as singles stars if allowed and they're not just stuck forever at the level of tag team wrestling. And if Roode is smart about his future, I think he'd see that, too and being a singles star in the big league, making much more money, would be a possibility for him when his contract with TNA is up.

 

[AGameTime411]

I honestly think this is a fantastic idea. Being a huge Beer Money fan, i'd love to see them hit the big time. If MCMG came with them, then the tag team division would be revived in mere weeks.
As for how it would affect TNA, well, the tag team matches there wouldn't be half as good as they are now. I mean if there's one reason to watch TNA it's tag team wrestling. But the two top teams are MCMG and Beer Money. TNA would suffer badly, but im sure they'd get back on track.
I think the chances of Beer Money leaving TNA are slim. They are both dedicated to TNA. Plus they are used basically every week in some killer matches. And if they did go to the WWE, well you've seen what WWE does to tag teams right? They keep them together for about a year, maybe 2, then break them up. Examples: Hart Dynasty, JeriShow, McIntyre/Rhodes, Legacy. That's what worries me. Plus, How PG would Beer Money have to go? Cause WWE isn't too fussed on teams promoting alcohol. Will they have to change their name to Soda Money? Or Lunch Money?

 

[Brian in Austin]

If the WWE is serious about bringing Beer Money it could be the beginning stage of revamping their tag team division, and if they do indeed bring them in, at least give WWE a chance to work them into a storyline before proclaiming WWE will bury them.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

as much as i think wwe needs to reinvent the tag team division i dont want beer money to go to WWE because there such a great team and both are great wrestlers and with them being tna originals id hate to see them jump ship for more money to the wwe! plus the fact beer money wouldnt be a huge sucess in wwe like have turned into for tna i wanna see them stay loyal to their company hopefully they dont sell out for more money

 

[Dizzy]

WWE can eye them all they want. Beer Money are signed through 2012. I know they are the best Tag Team in Pro-Wrestling but It's not happening.

I find it ridiculous, WWE fans and WWE itself thinks they can sign anyone they want and get anyone they want. Do they realize that money doesn't buy happiness? Which is why Sting rejects them each year.

Roode was introduced to WWE by Kevin Kelly and he was overlooked back in 2007 by Mr. John Luthiritis...or whatever the fuck his name is. Ever since then Roode said he was not interested in WWE and re-signed with TNA to a long term deal.

Why the hell would they sign anyways? Gail Kim, Kaz, Kaval have all been misused there.

 

[Rampage Bentley]

I'm all for it if they'll use them as well or better in the WWE as they are/were in TNA. Would I miss them in TNA? Sure. Would they be used better in WWE? Nope. How do I know? Well history is my bitch. Show me ONE person who went from being someone in TNA to being someone just as important or more in the WWE, who didn't work for WWE previously.

CM Punk.

R-Truth, although he was previously in WWE/F, but his first run as K-Kwik was absolutely garbage and almost not worth noting.

Kazarian was undefeated in his two month stint in WWE, he just got tired of waiting to be moved to one of the big shows.

 

[Brian in Austin]

WWE can eye them all they want. Beer Money are signed through 2012.

I find it ridiculous, WWE fans and WWE itself thinks they can sign anyone they want and get anyone they want. Do they realize that money doesn't buy happiness? Which is why Sting rejects them each year.

Roode was introduced to WWE by Kevin Kelly and he was overlooked back in 2007 by Mr. John Luthiritis...or whatever the fuck his name is. Ever since then Roode said he was not interested in WWE and re-signed with TNA to a long term deal.

Why the hell would they sign anyways? Gail Kim, Kaz, Kaval have all been misused there.

I'd say that if WWE makes them the right offer, then just about any wrestler would take the money and run. As to wrestlers being mis-used, we don't know the background enough to know what truly goes on with the talent backstage, and bookers, McMahon, etc.

 

[Dizzy]

I'd say that if WWE makes them the right offer, then just about any wrestler would take the money and run. As to wrestlers being mis-used, we don't know the background enough to know what truly goes on with the talent backstage, and bookers, McMahon, etc.

It's not about money. If that's the case, every wrestler would be signed to WWE right now. I'm sure they offered Sting tons of money but he has rejected them. People need to wake up already.

It's 2011. Not every music artist signs to the big label, the new generation of music lives through independent and less cuffs and chains.


Are you serious?

-We know this because we've seen countless wrestlers get fired, quit or be de-pushed due to politics. It's been that way for decades.

Should I not believe that amount of people that have shared the same experiences?

 

[Brian in Austin]

It's not about money. If that's the case, every wrestler would be signed to WWE right now. I'm sure they offered Sting tons of money but he has rejected them. People need to wake up already.

It's 2011. Not every music artist signs to the big label, the new generation of music lives through independent and less cuffs and chains.


Are you serious?

-We know this because we've seen countless wrestlers get fired, quit or be de-pushed due to politics. It's been that way for decades.

Should I not believe that amount of people that have shared the same experiences?

On the issue of money, I agree with you completely. Not everyone takes the money and usually they have reasons like a lighter schedule, more creative control of their character(s), and more airtime. But in specific if WWE were to offer Beer Money a heep of money I think it would be hard for them to resist if you include the enormous exposure they'd also get.

As to the politics of wrestling, I understand and agree there also. No question it's gone on probably since the day 'pro' wresting first took place. But talent wins out doesn't it? Talent overcomes politics. There's a reason some wrestlers never make it to tv or very little. It's viewed that they have less to offer an organization than others do.

 

[drobs85]

Typical TNA fan bullshit. Kaval was a cruiserweight with nobody to wrestler. Not exactly a big lose. Brayden Walker gained about 50 fucking pounds before he made his debut. Gail Kim is completely irrelevant and thought she should be the star of the show. As for the other huge WWE successes from TNA, lets take a look.

-Kharma was only being booked as the new face of the womens division before she got pregnant.

-R-Truth seems to be doing ok. You probably think he is a failure though because he didn't win the title when he main evented a PPV against the biggest star in wrestling.

-Christian is obviously being wasted after coming back from TNA. Hell, he should be way more than world champion and the top heel on Smackdown.

On to the real question. Of course Beer Money should go to the WWE. It's no different than the Kings of Wrestling. Maybe they will stay a team, or maybe they will split up. It doesn't matter. Regardless, they will make a hell of a lot more money, and be introduced to millions of new fans around the world. Not only that, but they will get to travel the world and wrestle in front of thousands of people, as opposed to wrestling in front of the same 900 people every week in Florida.

Hell, if I were a talented young wrestler, I'd be more than happy to go to work for a company that wasn't revolving around Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, and Sting in 2011.

Going to WWE is always a smart move for a wrestler. Brayden Walker sucked, but what exactly would he have been doing if he hadn't gone to the WWE. TNA was already done with him when they broke up AMW. If you want to be more than a big fish in a little pond, you have to take a chance sometime.

R-Truth's push since Capitol Punishment has been shit! He was on a losing streak and Orton completely buried him on smackdown. But as far as Beer Money, why waste the time, WWE could give a dog's s*** about tag team wrestling.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

If its what I read and WWE has intentions of revamping the tag division then I'm all for it. Beer Money is a fantastic Tag Team and both could break off into successful singles careers down the road. It also sound like they are looking into many different tag teams and they just signed the Kings of Wrestling and planning to keep them together too.

If they rebuild the tag division Beer Money would be a great asset but if they're gonna just bring them in to do nothing then I hope not.