Will Chris Benoit ever be inducted in the the WWE Hall of Fame?

[4horses]

@4horses...your a brainwashed idiot nothing more. Your statements are just uniformed opinion. Benoit never put anyone over? Benoit never had problems to put someone over and lose to an other Worker. Benoit had less Wrestling-skills than Malenko, Storm or Regal?

But he didn't help their careers in doing so. Almost every marquee name he ever lost to was a bigger name than him. I never said he never put anyone over. I said he didn't put anyone over in a way that made them a bigger name than they already are.

Chris Benoit has a technical wrestling background given to him by training in the dungeon of the Hart Family home, and has extensive world experience in Japan, Mexico and other locales.

Yeah and he also got training under Malenko, who helped him come up with alot of his moveset. But I guess Malenko wasn't any good at it, he only came up with Benoits finishing move. Also storm had the same people training him in Stu and the rest of the hart family.

Benoit has master training background that per example Malenko didnt have. Chris Benoit spent years training under the leadership of the legendary Stu Hart, with the aid of Bret Hart, Owen Hart, and many other wrestlers that went through the dungeon to become professional wrestlers.

Again it's hard for Malenko to train himself. Plus the fact Malenko seemed more natural in the ring. Probably had more natural skill in the ring coming from a natural wrestling background and being trained his whole life by his father.

Regal, Storm, and Malenko are all three underrated Workers, they are great technicans, but Chris Benoit is hands down the better Allround performer than all three.

No not really. but I'll listen.

He could adapt to ANY style, ANY opponent, from a "hardcore" brawl to a 5-star technical showcase with Kurt Angle, and everything in-between. And he was great at making anybody look awesome in the ring.
There are others in his league, of course, but not much are as all-around good as Benoit was. Mat wrestling, technical excellence, submission, flying, brawling, "hardcore", Benoit could do it all. Benoit was also an exellent brawler, and could outbrawl other technicans.

So could Malenko and Storm and Regal for that matter. While Regal really was never a high flyer nor was Malenko overall they had every other skill. Storm could do everything. He was a classic mat wrestler, a good high flyer, he was a submission expert when he came out and he could brawl and go hardcore with the best of them. The only difference is that he didn't have the chance on the WWE stage to do so. Malenko was amazing in ring, in everyway. He had great hardcore matches (see vs Eddie in ECW) and could brawl while in the Triple threat and when needed with the horseman. He had the ability but again wasn't really required or asked too. And to say Regal doesn't have all of those skills beside flying is moronic in itself. And by the way Benoit NEVER had a five star match with Kurt. Not one of his matches with Kurt was rated five star. He didn't even win MOTY with anyone but HBK and HHH.

Benoit put everything he had into every match he was in, whether that was in front of 100 fans or a PPV audience. I have seen literally hundreds of Benoit matches throughout his entire career from Stampede to Japan to ECW, WCW and the WWE and I never got tired of seeing him wrestle. A Benoit match was always the highlight of any card.

That's why he spent most of his career in the midcard? If he was that huge he would've been maineventing for YEARS and years but he wasn't. Most of it was spent doing nothing. He was a great technical wrestler but that doesn't make him out to be what you're saying he is. (BTW since when was giving a hundred percent a big deal. A) you can't gage it, B) isn't that what's expected? I doubt any of Chris' promotors ever said 'I want you to give 25% tonight. It's expected that you give 100%)

Benoit never did anything for the business? Please just shut up, you really have no points to make do ya?

Yeah I do but ou seem to just be content insulting me and making no point at all.

What you said is just laughable. And who cares about Mic-work anyway? Its all about the Ringwork.

Apparently it's not ALL about ringwork. The promotors seem to care about Mic skill. If not why would raw start every week with a twenty minute talk session. If Mic work doesn't matter why does Impact have two hundred segments of talking (exaggeration plz don't say I'm wrong because of it.). Why is it guys that weren't half the wrestler that benoit was, have two or three times more title reigns than him? It's clearly not ALL about ringwork. So it's not me that cares about Mic work, it's the fans, vince, and all the other promotors that seem to care.

Benoit, technical wrestling is more than just about the moves you can do its about how well you tell a story in the ring and how well your in ring psychology is. Just because Malenko does mat wrestling moves doesn't make him technical his in ring psychology isn't that great actually he does moves just to do moves he puts no purpose behind them he just does them to be flashy.

Most of Malenkos moves where about working over the back. He used a back breaker into a submission, boston crab, belly to back(his set up move in ECW for the Cloverleaf) double underhook into a backbreaker or just a simple one where his opponent still landed on there back. A powerbomb, surfboard, all working over the back. To consider someone a great technical wrestler anymore you have to have all the skills including psychology. Saying Malenko didn't have any is beyond a joke.

Benoit told a story in the ring and put purpose in the chain of moves he does benoits in ring psychology is top notch.

be fair about it at least admit that the others all had this or they wouldn't be known as great techinical wrestlers.

I think its pretty obvious Dean is the better mat wrestler, however Benoit is an overall better package. Benoit is an overall better package than Regal, Storm and Malenko.

It's arguable but I'll give you you're opinion and to a certain extent agree with you.

Youve made points which ive totally destroyed you. Go back and read that things you said like how Benoit never done anything for the business, and how he never put anyone over.

You haven't shown me one person that benoit put over and helped make a star. You're just rambling on saying he has.

You have no clue and are barely coheirent, so let your bias clout your judgement. Your a joke.

A guy who made NO points besides ones already brought up. Claimed that it's all about ring work (yeah that's why Hogan is in the HOF. Sports Entertainment is ALL about that ringwork. (sarcasam)), said dean malenko has little in ring psychology, said that Chris Benoit was the highlight of every show he was on is going to call me a joke?Just stop and Please refrain from posting about techincal wrestling until you change your name. Thanks for the time.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

But he didn't help their careers in doing so. Almost every marquee name he ever lost to was a bigger name than him. I never said he never put anyone over. I said he didn't put anyone over in a way that made them a bigger name than they already are.


Yeah and he also got training under Malenko, who helped him come up with alot of his moveset. But I guess Malenko wasn't any good at it, he only came up with Benoits finishing move. Also storm had the same people training him in Stu and the rest of the hart family.


Again it's hard for Malenko to train himself. Plus the fact Malenko seemed more natural in the ring. Probably had more natural skill in the ring coming from a natural wrestling background and being trained his whole life by his father.


No not really. but I'll listen.


So could Malenko and Storm and Regal for that matter. While Regal really was never a high flyer nor was Malenko overall they had every other skill. Storm could do everything. He was a classic mat wrestler, a good high flyer, he was a submission expert when he came out and he could brawl and go hardcore with the best of them. The only difference is that he didn't have the chance on the WWE stage to do so. Malenko was amazing in ring, in everyway. He had great hardcore matches (see vs Eddie in ECW) and could brawl while in the Triple threat and when needed with the horseman. He had the ability but again wasn't really required or asked too. And to say Regal doesn't have all of those skills beside flying is moronic in itself. And by the way Benoit NEVER had a five star match with Kurt. Not one of his matches with Kurt was rated five star. He didn't even win MOTY with anyone but HBK and HHH.


That's why he spent most of his career in the midcard? If he was that huge he would've been maineventing for YEARS and years but he wasn't. Most of it was spent doing nothing. He was a great technical wrestler but that doesn't make him out to be what you're saying he is. (BTW since when was giving a hundred percent a big deal. A) you can't gage it, B) isn't that what's expected? I doubt any of Chris' promotors ever said 'I want you to give 25% tonight. It's expected that you give 100%)


Yeah I do but ou seem to just be content insulting me and making no point at all.


Apparently it's not ALL about ringwork. The promotors seem to care about Mic skill. If not why would raw start every week with a twenty minute talk session. If Mic work doesn't matter why does Impact have two hundred segments of talking (exaggeration plz don't say I'm wrong because of it.). Why is it guys that weren't half the wrestler that benoit was, have two or three times more title reigns than him? It's clearly not ALL about ringwork. So it's not me that cares about Mic work, it's the fans, vince, and all the other promotors that seem to care.



Most of Malenkos moves where about working over the back. He used a back breaker into a submission, boston crab, belly to back(his set up move in ECW for the Cloverleaf) double underhook into a backbreaker or just a simple one where his opponent still landed on there back. A powerbomb, surfboard, all working over the back. To consider someone a great technical wrestler anymore you have to have all the skills including psychology. Saying Malenko didn't have any is beyond a joke.


be fair about it at least admit that the others all had this or they wouldn't be known as great techinical wrestlers.


It's arguable but I'll give you you're opinion and to a certain extent agree with you.


You haven't shown me one person that benoit put over and helped make a star. You're just rambling on saying he has.


A guy who made NO points besides ones already brought up. Claimed that it's all about ring work (yeah that's why Hogan is in the HOF. Sports Entertainment is ALL about that ringwork. (sarcasam)), said dean malenko has little in ring psychology, said that Chris Benoit was the highlight of every show he was on is going to call me a joke?Just stop and Please refrain from posting about techincal wrestling until you change your name. Thanks for the time.

There is one person in the WWE who should thank Benoit each and every day that he is still there and that is MVP. After facing Benoit, MVP became one of the hottest things in the WWE with almost a year-long U.S. Title reign. Benoit could make anybody and I mean anybody look good in the ring and was put over plenty of times by the biggest stars in the WWE and delivered. If you are saying that Chris Benoit doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, then his friend Eddie Guerrero shouldn't be in because he was in the main event about the amount of time that Benoit was but Benoit had a far better impact than Guerrero. Also, you are kidding me if you don't think Angle vs. Benoit at the Royal Rumble wasn't great. That was one of the greatest title matches of all time and should have closed the show, period. He had plenty of great matches with Angle and Jericho in 2001 which helped bring the WWE out of the Attitude Era.

 

[DX vs NWO]

Ok this thread is so full of controversy it's not funny, keep it comin people.

Anyway, What u want to know is well, should Benoit be inducted into the WWE Hall Of Fame? In my opinion, no, letting a man who killed his own wife and child before killing himself, go into the hall of fame would just be wrong. I have been a wrestling fan ever since 1988, and the Name Benoit was very popular in wrestling, of course not in WWF but in other prommotions like Japan. I used to like Benoit alot during WCW, and ECW but WWE was just a bit to much for him. Benoit had passion for the business, hell he had so much passion, docters say that the passion is what drove him mad and caused him to do what he did. As a pro wrestler in WWE he was in my books what British Bulldog was in the 90's, a very good wrestler just not someone you would remember for years and years to come like guys like HBK, Undertaker, Hogan or Bret Hart. If he did not commit the crimes he did well then yeah, later on he would maybe be inducted into the hall of fame, (I say maybe because unlike guys like HBK, HHH, Taker, he didn't have that much of an impact).

But inducting him now, after all he did to his family, there is no way in hell that he's goin into the HoF. Look at it this way, if you were Vince, who is a well known business man who owns a company that basically is the whole of the wrestling worlds fan base, if you let a guy like Benoit go into hall of fame, vince would not only get criticised but he would get so much heat, it would be worse than when Elvis died. The Benoit case itself when it happened, got so much heat, it forced WWE to erase Benoits name. I don't blame Vince for erasing Benoit from history.

R.I.P Chris Benoit

 

[SteveAustinsucks]

I dont even need to name one star who he put over. One got allready named by Kenan. So whats your point? And really, if you say Storm and Regal were better than Benoit, youre really a brainwashed kid. Give me a break.
Benoit is easily one of the greatest wrestlers to ever step inside the squared circle. Chris Benoit is the epitome of a true wrestler. He didn't need gimmicks, promos, storylines, etc. He did all his talking in the ring. Chris Benoit was able to utilize various styles whether its the stiff style of Japan or pure wrestling that matched Dynamite Kid. There wasn't a thing he couldn't do inside the ring. Benoit could use a technical based style, brawl with his aggressive personality, and his suicide dives and diving headbutts are some of Benoit's signature maneuvers. In the 2000s, Benoit continued to develop and always looked to perfect his craft. He had many match of the year candidates against stars like Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Triple H, and others. He's trained in many different areas around the world and he had great in ring awareness. You'll rarely see a man as consistent and superb in the ring as Chris Benoit. Just watch his Japan work and tell me that Storm and Regal were better.
Benoit was all-business, a no-nonsense tough-as-nails fighter who could wrestle any style. He was more versatile than Malenko, Regal and Storm. Storm and Regal are mediocre Workers. Benoit was great rounder who could do some great catch spots.
As fas far as actual scientific grappling goes, Malenko trounces Benoit, ill give him that.
But when it came to adapting to other styles and working other styles into the technical aspect of their moves, Benoit beat him out! And no, no one cares about Mic-work anyway. Just when your a stupid WWE-fanboy maybe. Benoit had to work his ass off more than 15 years to get ONE huge title in the WWE, and per example that tool called Great Khali got the world title after his debut, like 3 or 4 years. And Khali doesnt have Mic-work, In-Ring skills, he doesnt have anything. Crappy Workers doesnt deserve a push, its an insult to others who can work. And Benoits Mic-work wasnt that bad. His promos were nothing special, but they werent that bad at all. Id say he was solid on the Mic. Bret Hart never was a great Mic-worker either.
Benoit wrestled with so much emotion and intensity that you believe it and believe in him.
And with which Worker does HHH have a MOTY?? Michaels & Benoit? According to Wikipedia, he never had a MOTY with anyone. Just most overrated like three times LOL. No one cares about them anyway. And when did HHH and Michaels enter the discussion? Were talking about Benoit, Malenko, Regal and Storm you dumb little cunt, stick to the subject.


Despite what people may think about Benoit because of the way his life ended i don't think anybody can deny that he was one of the best of all time and even his moveset got watered down in the 2000's by WWE, Benoit worked better with less then most worked with more and he never failed to deliver whether he was in the opening match or main event. Benoit wasnt a maineventer because he had not the size, the Mic-skills etc. Ive seen alot of guys in the WWE who didnt got what they deserved. Ultimo Dragon is one of the best of all time, he could outowork anybody in his fed, where was his push in the WWE? They used him wrong.
There is a reason that he is the only wrestler so far to have hold 11 titles at the same time.
Besides, this paves the way for more action with Chavo, Rey and other lightweight wrestlers. Rey beating Kane every time is just pathetic and unbelievable, and you have to be even more than a pathetic dumb ranting fanboy.Or do you only deal with imaginary hypotheticals?
You really have no point to make do ya? You havent prooved me wrong once. You havent prooved me why Regal, Storm or Malenko were better than Benoit. You just keep spewing imaginary battles you dreamed up and illogical opinions.
And you have made points, which I have rebutted against and you came back with nothing, looser.
Either back up a statement with facts or concede.
You haven't made one substantial point, just dumb uniformed opinion.
I'll take that as a concession, you haven't disproved one fact I've stated.
GO PENS!! And dont tell me what i shall do.

 

[sTyLnK]

Does he deserve to be in the HOF? Absolutely. He was a pro who worked harder then literally everyone and had a great resume. Sadly, he will never be inducted. Ever. He dedicated his life to the business he loved and in the end it took all but one sad night to ruin it and for that business to completely erase him out of existence in every little thing down to the smallest detail. I don't blame the WWE for doing it either. Common sense obviously.

 

[RKOlegendkiller]

Benoit was an extraordinary (however you spell that) wrestler. He was fun to watch. Should he be inducted into the hall of fame? No he shouldn't be he's ruined his reputation and he's damaged the wwes and very possibly the wrestling profession. Leave him out of the hall of fame. He doesn't deserve it

 

[Depakote]

I like to live in a fantasy world where Chris didnt murder his family but it was actually Kevin Sullivan getting revenge after all these years. The year that the murders occurred, it was the 10 year anniversary that Nancy divorced Sullivan for Benoit. Sullivan threatened to kill Benoit. Sullivan's history as an actual Satanist has been well documented. Destroying Benoit's reputation on top of killing his family in front of him 10 years after he stole your wife seems to be a pretty good way of getting revenge.

But thats all speculation with no real proof to back it up. The case has been closed and everyone decided that Chris did it. So yeah, he's never going to be in the Hall of Fame. I dont want to remember him for his last days on Earth, but I'll definitely forever remember him for being simply one of the best technical wrestlers ever.

 

[d_henderson1810]

LOL, this is NEVER going to happen. Chris Benoit has been erased from existence, as well he should be. I can't believe some of you actually think this man deserves to be in the hall of fame after what he did. No, none of his masked characters will be in the hall of fame. No, "anything can happen in the WWE", does not apply here. Not in a million years will this happen. Don't hold your breath. I would not even give it one half of one percent chance of ever happening. Never. That's like OJ Simpson getting a lifetime achievement award. Not gonna happen. You have a better chance of Eddie Guerrero coming back from the dead and slapping some sense into his wife. You probably have a better chance of winning the super lotto jackpot 7 times in a row. We can end this discussion right here. The man was a sick human being, killed his wife, his young son and then himself, case closed.

There is a big difference of someone getting 'screwed' and 'vowing' to never come back than this monster getting into a hall of fame. Give it up fanboys, no amount of money or publicity would be enough for anyone to even consider this for a nano second. Don't even give me a "but..." it's over. He's gone and good riddance. Don't give him a "RIP" either, because he deserves to burn for eternity.

Okay, I think I have made my point...

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You say that he deserves to be wiped from the WWE's existence. While I can understand not putting him in the HoF, or using his name in the future, it is just not practical to wipe out all his records and any footage of him.

I heard the stupid idea put to erase him from DVD's etc. But think about it. Does that mean that if you get the 2004 "Royal Rumble" DVD, it won't have the Royal Rumble match, because Benoit won it? Would they remove the main event from Wrestlemania XX, because it is glorifying someone who would murder? In fact, Benoit appeared prominently in many PPV's in 2004, in the main event, meaning that every Raw PPV until Unforgiven can't have a main-event. That would be stupid. You can't retrospectively deny him. The WWE can't go back in time, and be held responsible for giving Benoit the belt at WMXX, because they didn't know that he would do these horrific crimes three and a half years later. Don't mention him from now on, but you can't change the past.

 

[Cactus~Clothesline]

I really hope he gets put in. The Hall of Fame is based on wrestling careers and he had a hell of a career. Unlike most people I'm still able to seperate Chris Benoit is wrestling and Chris Benoit at home. I didn't know him personally, I knew him as an 'actor' of sorts.

He was a great wrestler and he really does deserve to be put in.

 

[MOExecution]

Chris Benoit will never be inducted into the Hall of Fame, but I am not one of them hardcore people who believe that he was a monster and doesn't feel remorseful for him. I am sorry for the whole Benoit family, but here is the thing I know professional wrestlers are not the biggest Icons ever, but in a sense they are celebrities and little kids and people admire these guys because of their talent or etc. The spotlight is on Chris Benoit because, yeah, he is a "celebrity" that people look up to, but in my eyes he did absolutely nothing that people in our world still do to this day. Every week I watch the news and it's another story about how a husband killed his wife/family, but all of a sudden since it's somebody with a big name it's a big deal right? I know this is not related to wrestling, but it's a good comparison. Chris Brown for domestic violence against Rhianna. Domestic violence happens everyday in the world, but because he is famous he gets crap for it right? I'm not saying that I condone what Chris Benoit did, but I think it was just blew WAY out of proportion. We will never know the WHOLE story or what really happened. People say it was steroids, his father says it was because of his brain, and people are saying they were all murdered. The Chris Benoit Mystery is something we will never know and never really understand. So for people to call him a monster because he is "famous" it's just stupid.

Now while I think he will never be inducted into the Hall of Fame I do believe that he should in my opinion. Chris Benoit has been part of SO many classic matches (WrestleMania XX or any match with Kurt Angle for examples) and have been part of SO many memorable moments (Once again WrestleMania XX and Money in the Bank Match) I am sure there was more, but they were just some that stuck out in my head. And for WWE to just completely act like they don't remember is stupid on their part as well. Chris Benoit gave WWE his blood, sweat, tears, body, (and if what his father says is true) his life as well. And from what I read he was a really good business man/workhorse. How do you not honor somebody who has dedicated their life for the business? It's just bewildering to me honestly. He is not a Rock, he is not a Hogan, Shawn Michaels, or Stone Cold, but he did enough in the WWE to be remembered as one of the best. That is how I remember Chris Benoit. I don't remember him for what he did to his family, but I remember him for what he did for the WWE and his career.

As I wrap this up I just want to say I don't support what Chris Benoit did. I think what happened was tragic, but for people to just call him a monster is ridiculous when they don't know the full story behind the murders. Things like this happen around the world every day, but people are acting like this is the first time ever in the history something drastic like this has happened. Just because he is famous he is getting crap for it. I appreciate what Chris Benoit did for the WWE and for the Professional Wrestling business and I think WWE should at least pay him back FOR WHAT HE DID IN THE WRESTLING BUSINESS! Not for what happened on that night.

 

[ScouseSlammer2010]

For His Commites In Wrestling Yes .
For His Sucide No .

He Was Gold In The Ring ... I Think If It Wernet For That . He Would Of Been HOF .

The Would Never Except It

 

[GameOver]

Not gonna get into an argument of whether it was proven or not, they found bodies and assumedly no evidence of any other party being involved, but it's common knowledge legal system is full of holes, corruption, false alligations, bad judiciary decisions.

Anyway putting that asside, until someone comes out and proves him innocent he will be labeled a murder and will not even be considered for anything involving WWF/E or TNA for that matter

Such a shame, in ring Benoit was among the best of the best technicians and out of ring was a great worker, but that part will never be recognized or relived and his personal life was obviously a completely different side.

 

[CyDeez]

NEVER!!

He ruined his legacy in the business. His name was never Main Stream! Then it became Main Stream over what happened with him and his family!!

I think even if WWE wanted to, they know honoring him would bring them way too much shit.

Benoit was one of the best I have ever seen in the ring. HANDS DOWN!!!

But all that means nothing now. His in ring career will ALWAYS be over shadowed by what happened!!

 

[goodlay]

I really hope he gets put in. The Hall of Fame is based on wrestling careers and he had a hell of a career. Unlike most people I'm still able to seperate Chris Benoit is wrestling and Chris Benoit at home. I didn't know him personally, I knew him as an 'actor' of sorts.

He was a great wrestler and he really does deserve to be put in.

Fuck that. I don't care what he did as some sports entertainer. This man murdered his own wife and children with his own hands. If he did drugs, or got arrested for drunk driving, that'd be different. How the fuck can you separate Benoit as a wrestler and Benoit as a person when he did something so fucked up?

I agree with you that he did have a hell of a career, but that's completely irrelevant in his case. Even though he deserves to go based on his wrestling career, WWE would never be stupid enough to induct him. Can you imagine the media and mainstream backlash that the company would get? That is not worth the risk for some guy who killed his family just because he was a good wrestler. What he did was unforgivable, and he certainly will NEVER be in the HOF, and for good reason.

 

[Auxlz]

Wow.... People saying "You can't say it will never happen, people said Brett would never come back and he did!" Really????

Yes cuz losing a wrestling title in your home country without knowing you would is clearly as bad as murdering your wife, child and then yourself.....

It really doesn't matter what sate of mind he was in. He chose to take w/e drugs caused him to be like that, he chose to be a pro wrestler and take on w/e life style that brought him. He chose to kill his wife and son....

Chris may of deserved to be in the HoF for everything he did up until his final day, but what happened on his final day makes it so no way in hell does he deserve to be in the HoF. The HoF is not just honoring the wreslter's character, its honoring the person who was playing that character. Well the person playing Chris Beniot the WWE star turned out to be a murder and that should NEVER be honored.

 

[One to Remember]

its a a shame so many of you don't realize that no one gives a fuck that you think hes a monster. Benoit doesn't care, your condemnation sure wasn't opening his kid's wind pipes..

All I care about is what a medical examiner thinks not what wrestling marks with no academic credentials think is monstrous. There is still an open investigation on the death of Jimmy Snuka's girlfried yet I don't hear any of you ragging on the Superfly yet we hear O.J. bashing even though a court of law ruled him not guilty. How are you choosing when ad when not to offer conbdemnation im wondering?

Verne Gagne kills a 97 year old ina nursing home, none of you say anythig and the D.A. just lets it be. What gives there? Why didn't the Wrestling OBSERVER HOF try to have a recall vote of Gagne like it did Benoit? Why is Gagne's mental decline given credence but Benoit has no such defense?

We get the predictable allusions to Hitler and the Holocaust.. The man Gagne killed fleed the Nazis..

I think people here are being crooked and dusty, I think Benoit was great when he was givig them entertainment but when he got into some mess all of a suden he was untouchable, all of a sudden Benoit is persona non grata.

If what the doctor said of Benoit's brain isacurate we can conclude two things, he had no moral compass, no perception of right and wrong, no thoughts that were not skewed. Its also my knowledge of Alzheimer's individuals that allows me to know even with cognitive abilities rapidly deteriorating there are still some moments of clarity. That most likely would explain Benoit's suicide after the murder, well excluse me killings, murder is a legal term.

I think having a flying headbutt as a finisher did not contribute to te situation. I am tempted to say the ex fans on here blasting him are some what accountable or complicit. All his wear and tear was in the name of entertaining the fans..

I am glad the issue was brought back up because I have been curious how this forum handled the controversy an fierce debate. O.J. killed his wife because he was a woman beater and was jealous.. This is why I can watch Benoit because I accept scientific analysis from the medical science community not emotional dribble from the common man.

You have o get off of Benoit's ass because there is an insanity defense for a reason, pills have been shown to effect mod and mentality, and not everyone who kills his held to the same disciplinary standards for a specific reason. You can't use moral logic with a man whos brain couldn't even put morality in perspective at certain points. Your being ignorant.

 

[The Pagan]

I like to live in a fantasy world where Chris didnt murder his family but it was actually Kevin Sullivan getting revenge after all these years. The year that the murders occurred, it was the 10 year anniversary that Nancy divorced Sullivan for Benoit. Sullivan threatened to kill Benoit. Sullivan's history as an actual Satanist has been well documented. Destroying Benoit's reputation on top of killing his family in front of him 10 years after he stole your wife seems to be a pretty good way of getting revenge.

But thats all speculation with no real proof to back it up. The case has been closed and everyone decided that Chris did it. So yeah, he's never going to be in the Hall of Fame. I dont want to remember him for his last days on Earth, but I'll definitely forever remember him for being simply one of the best technical wrestlers ever.

The only way I could EVER see Benoit being inducted into the Hall of Fame is if Kevin Sullivan came forward and said he did it. I'm not saying he did it or anything, but that's the only way I could ever see it happening. Benoit was my favorite wrestler before he died. I don't really need WWE to recognize him as one of the best ever. I know he was a great wrestler. Given the circumstances, I don't blame WWE for their actions regarding Benoit.

 

[JM10977]

I think having a flying headbutt as a finisher did not contribute to te situation. I am tempted to say the ex fans on here blasting him are some what accountable or complicit. All his wear and tear was in the name of entertaining the fans..

I am glad the issue was brought back up because I have been curious how this forum handled the controversy an fierce debate. O.J. killed his wife because he was a woman beater and was jealous.. This is why I can watch Benoit because I accept scientific analysis from the medical science community not emotional dribble from the common man.

You have o get off of Benoit's ass because there is an insanity defense for a reason, pills have been shown to effect mod and mentality, and not everyone who kills his held to the same disciplinary standards for a specific reason. You can't use moral logic with a man whos brain couldn't even put morality in perspective at certain points. Your being ignorant.

I find it really interesting that people actually believe some of the shit they put together. The facts are that there is no conclusive evidence of anything. What I do know is that he made conscious decisions such as killing people then going to traveling cross country. Exactly, how long am I supposed to believe he didn't have perspective over his morality? For just the moments where he killed his family? Because if that's the case then he traveled to a show knowing what he did and didn’t do anything about it. Unless I’m supposed to believe he didn’t have perspective over his morality until he started back to his house. Then he what felt guilty then but didn’t tell anyone?

Another problem I have with your conclusion that he didn’t have perspective over his morality yet he never did anything in the ring to lead you to think he might have it. Name where benoit fucked up in the ring, over the last few months of his life or looked bad in ring? Dementia causes lapses in reasoning and judgment in everyday activities. Including work, where your evidence? Far be it for me a non professional a guy who isn’t a doctor but to conclude that nobody notices or said anything about it is completely insane to me. The ‘scientist’ that is trying to prove this theory and that’s all it is atm. Is one of Chris Benoit’s friends by the way. Fact of the matter is this, you’re using emotions to reach you conclusion not I. You want to believe this because then you can enjoy his work and convince yourself of some deluded reality where it’s disease that cause him to kill someone when there’s really no evidence of the kind except for the fact people said it COULD have been.

It’s funny because they said Benoit had the mental capabilities of an 80 years old with dementia(I believe that’s right) if he had the mental capabilities of an 80 year old with dementia you would see it in his work. See it in his day to day life, and SOMEONE would’ve noticed.

If you want to say someone who murdered his wife and kid isn’t ‘right in the head’ I agree but it doesn’t mean he had a crippling disease or a lack of understanding of what he was doing. At what point do we simply call a spade a spade?

 

[jaywake111]

ok yes he is a workhorse yes he changed the biz and no he should never ever be in the hof reason 1.Murder. reason 2. another murder of his SON!!!!! if wwe would even consider it it would be a million years down the line where people dont even know who chris is

 

[JM10977]

Thing about it is this, at the end of the day it's a fake sport. For all the accolades he has, what it comes down to is what he did FOR the business wasn't even comparable to what he did to HURT the business. The guy was very good, but he should never be in the HOF.

 

[X]

No, he fucking won't. End of god damn story.