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Who would you cut from the entire TNA roster?

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Who do you think TNA should cut?

I think they should cut guys that can't talk and don't look like they belong in a mainstream company.

Amazing Red - Probably the worst talker on the entire roster and is too small to be taken serious.

Brutus Magnus - He sounds robotic on the mic and he's too big for the X Division and there's no room for him near the top.

Consequences Creed - Can't talk and looks like a indy jobber. Plus for a high flyer he's not very entertaining.

Jay Lethal - His wannabe gimmick has ran its course and before the gimmick he was bland and boring anyway.

Jesse Neal - Looks like a CAW gone wrong and there's no room for him.

Kiyoshi - Can't even speak English.

Orlando Jordan - It's BS that he has clean wins over Pope and Joe. He should be fired and TNA should forget those travesties ever happened.

Rob Terry - Just a big useless musclehead.

Shark Boy - Waste of space.

Suicide/Kaz - Suicide is the worst gimmick in wrestling history and Kaz just being himself was boring. He should be fired either way.

There are probably some more but those are the first batch of cuts I would make.
 
I admit that some of your choices should get cut off...

Jesse Neal - It has gotten to a point where i thought he was released but i se on the TNA roster page he is still around. They release Senshi over this guy... WTF?!?!?!

Kiyoshi - They could have gave him a manager that spoke his language and push him as a lethal X Division wrestler, he could of been pushed to some good places in the X Division.

Shark Boy - I agree 100% with you.

Orlando Jordon - He was never really that talented in anything, his natural wrestling ability does not make up for anything, he is just a bore.

NOW THE PEOPLE YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT...

Amazing Red - People need guys like Amazing Red to keep the X Division at least somewhat interested
Don West made him seem a little better, they should have him backing him up again. Love him or not he is a great worker and it would be freaking pointless to release him. Plus he is over heaps with the fans.

Kaz - For some reason i just like this guy. YES he is boring on the mic but in the ring he is a very good worker and TNA can benefit by pushing this guy somewhere.

Rob Terry - At the end of the day you need big guys like him...

Jay Lethal - The guy is over with the fans even when he is hardly featured and he is a good in ring worker, same with Consequence Creed.
 
Looking up and down the roster I do see some dead weight that could be gotten rid off.....

Consequences: Came in on a reference from AJ and sometimes I wonder if AJ isn't icking himself for it either. I'm sure the guy is a greta guy in person but as a wrestler he does't do it for me.

Eric Young: Boy am I getting shit for this one. I'm sorry but I don't see the big hooplah about him. He's as generic and generic can be. He's no good on the mic, doesn't have a moveset that sets him apart and hasn't been entertining sincehe went serious. At least the guy was funny running around Nashville looking for Elvis. Hell pair him and Santino on a real comedy series and you have Emmy gold, but he's not adding anythin to TNA in my mind.

Jesse Neal: I really tried to like this guy but comes off as a Rhino-lite. I have massive respect for what he has done for my country but I don't see him being worth anything in the long run.

Kiyoshi: Again good wrestler, great guy but The Great Muta he's not. Muta could get away with not speaking or knowing much english because he was that good in the ring and Rajin just doesn't have that.

The Nasty Boys: Aww c'mon you knew it was coming. I still don't see them staying around. I think until LockDown so they can have their blowoff feud with 3D. And remember what Sags said a the PPV, "What good is it being in TNA if they can't beat 3D?" I'm guessing Team 3D gets a win over them on Impact sometime before LockDown, beats them in a blood bath cage match and thats the end for Mr. Knobs and Mr. Sags. BTW I don't read spoilers so I don't know what will happen.

Orlando Jordan: I just can't like this guy. To me he's another Eric Young. Doesn't have that pizzaz to stand out. Other than his always changing hairstyles.

Big Rob Terry: I understand that he wants to be a wrestler and kudos for giving it your all, but when your all fails to impress time after time after time, you have to wonder if the fans are booing you as a heel or booing you as a wrestler?

Sean Morely: Hasn't done much but piss off just about every TNA with his win over Daniels. I like Sean but I just cant find myself cheering for him like I used to. Sometimes and old dog has to learn new tricks.

Shark Boy: No explination. He's comic relief and there are guys who are better wrestlers who can provide that as well.

Tomko: Out of shape, never the best. Big guy but that's it. Impressive beard though.
 
Not kaz! The rest yes maybe not ey he pretty good on the mic, but kaz can be epic with some work with the mic,Ric flair can help that out a lot!!!!!! Kaz reminds me a bit of RVD in the ring,an he got the look of a champion 6 2 245 an he can hop around an get technical, a diamond just needs a lil polish or spit shine.First timer by the way.
 
Jesse Neal- He hasn't been seen in forever, and besides that fact.. He never really got over to me, at all.

Lacey Von Erich- I thought Dixie said she'd only hire KO's with talent. :banghead:

The Nasty Boys- When Hogan said "The Nasty Boys will not be appearing in TNA" in one of his many interviews leading up to the Jan.4 Impact!, It gave me a sense of safety from actually seeing them. To me, they bring nothing to the show, and force me to decide weather or not to change the channel or not.

Dr.Stevie & Raven- Either use them, or don't. I love them, honest. But If their not going to be used in a significant way..

Rhino- I haven't seen him in a bit. Maybe it's just me not having a good memory.. But he's the same as Stevie & Raven.

Rob Terry- He hasn't impressed me once since debuting, and they put the belt on him. :wtf:
He's all looks.

Sean Morley- He's living off a ten year old gimmick that got tired a while ago, and is average at best in the ring. I'm not seeing his importance.

Shark Boy- Either use him or don't, it's that simple.

Tomko- To me, he's just a generic big guy. :icon_neutral:

Orlando Jordan- Not over, yet they've already given him a win over The Pope, who's possibly one of the most over Wrestlers in TNA right now. Besides that, he's just got nothing that really stands out to me.


Also, I'd get rid of the Global & KO Tag Team Titles. TNA needs, at most, four championships on a single show. Not six..
 
Firstly, let me say that I think TNA has a very usable roster. You don't have to know to talk to get over in a WRESTLING company. By that I mean the fans tune in to see wrestling for the most part, not simply to see their one favorite star do his finisher, which is usually the case with the competition. So while some talent appear useless, I'm sure we can all think of at least 5 ways to make them useful.

Now, who to cut:

Kevin Nash - He's run his course and I can't see how he can be useful in too many ways anymore. At the most he should be a manager, but as an active wrestler, he's only holding back his opponents.

Kiyoshi - They don't use him, and the idea that he's the new Muta didn't get over. I also feel his style is pretty slow for a supposedly X Division wrestler.

Nasty Boys - As much as TNA has improved since Hogan arrived, the Nasty Boys have also set the company back. They're in the same boat as Nash, dead weight that only slows down the other talent. When an aging team like 3D has to slow down for you, you know shouldn't be wrestling.

Rhino - Rhino doesn't bring anything to TNA that makes him stand out. And it's too late to try to make him the monster he was in ECW.

Sean Morley - If Morley had left WWE around 2003 and joined TNA, fans would see how good he could have been. But it's just too late for him to try and get a fresh start in his career. He's slower and just not talent he was in his prime.

Tomko - Personally I've never seen what he brings to the table that warrants him a spot on any wrestling roster. Not to mention he returned to TNA out of shape.

Global and KO Tag Titles - I originally loved the KO Tag Titles, but what good are titles that aren't even being used? Either start showcasing them or drop them.

Anyone I didn't mention is a talent I think can be very useful given the right position. Either put in a tag team that doesn't look like two random guys teaming or in the case of Raven or Stevie, make them managers of a young faction. I'd love to see a new age Flock led by someone that can carry Raven's torch.
 
We're talking TNA cuts? Time for me to catch some heat LOL

Let's start with the Nasty Boys, Hall, Waltman, and Orlando Jordan. None of them belong in a wrestling ring much less on TV. Jordan's the only one that has any potential in TNA but he sucks royally... remember his losses to Benoit in less than 30 seconds each?

Others:
Black Machismo gimmick: :banghead:. Talent waste has gone on long enough OOOH YEEEAAAAH!
Bubba the Love Sponge (if he isn't already gone): I'd rather see Scott Hall's drunk self running around more than this guy. I hate his radio stuff, I hate him in TNA.
Morley: "Ladies, I'm here"... no, what he should be saying is "Ladies, I suck a big fat one". We all know who he is, he doesn't fit in TNA. Bye.
Lacey Von Erich: T and A, that's all she's worth, and she doesn't even look that good. She really ought to change her name and never mention being in that family.
Stevie: Didn't like him in WWE, like him less now. He's unnecessarily risking his neck (literally)
Suicide gimmick: I'm not big on masked wrestlers in the first place but this was just a promotion for a video game. Bring Kaz back and use him right.
Tomko: He doesn't fit the American style of pro wrestling. Let him go back to Japan where he gets some respect.
Rhino: Too many injuries. Enough said.
Creed: He looks too much like that black boxer from Rocky. Repackage him and he may be worth something.
Shark Boy: Gimmick is too cartoony in today's wrestling world. Let him do his thing backstage.
Homicide: the Latino gangsta thing's getting old. Time for a repackage. Plus he wants out so let 'im go
Vince Russo: Remember Owen Hart? Enough said.
Mick Foley and Jarrett: Neither one of them needs to be on TV. Let them go back to their personal lives while they're in one piece.
Daniels: Poor guy gets no respect in the US. He oughta go to Japan where he's on 3D's level as far as respect.
HULK HOGAN: Do I REALLY need to say why?
Abyss' mask: Come on Chris, do you really need the mask to be "the monster"?
 
Well, I'm probably not the person to ask about TNA, since I don't watch it more than once in a blue moon, but from what I've seen/heard...

Amazing Red - Seems like he's real small and can flip around quite a bit, but is otherwise absolutely useless.

Nasty Boys - C'mon. Nobody needs to explain why these guys should be released.

Stevie Richards - I don't see why they should be putting money into a guy that isn't exactly a money maker and is old.

Raven - Look up.

Homicide - Maybe. Maybe not. Idk. It always seems like whenever I come across his name, he's not doing anything.

Scott Hall - Lol.

Sean Waltman - Lol again.

Shark Boy - Seriously, this guy's still on the payroll?

Tomko - As I've said before, I think Tomko has absolutely nothing going for him. He's weird looking and not talented at all. He needs to work the indies for the rest of his career.

Kiyoshi - Don't know anything about him, don't think I've ever seen a match of his, therefore he must not be that great.

SoCal Val - She's useless. Does she have a decent body? Sure. But goddamn, her face looks like she's a post-op transvestite. She's got the facial structure as if she was Jay Leno's kid. Plus, wtf does she do? They don't need her to do interviews as they have Borash and Hemme. They don't need her to manage anyone as she sucks ass at that job. Cut her loose.

Bubba the Love Sponge - Why they let him come on board instead of just saying "no" to Hogan, I'm not sure.

Hamada - Not a fan. Plus she looks weird lol.

Lacey Von Erich - She's hot, but she's shit. She needs to just do porn or something instead with her life.
 
Nash, Hall, Pac or whatever the hell he goes by these days. Nash's last match against Mick Foley may qualify as the worst match of the year for TNA. He looked stiff, rigid, clumsy, and was lost the entire time. Hall has porked up and his stick is boring nowadays. Pac is a never was, a midcarder that always gets fired. If not for the Kliq this guy would be selling smokes at a 7/11.

Jeff Jarrett, never liked him, never thought he was a particularly good performer inside the ring or on the mic.

Sting, under utilized in TNA, has not done anything notable in a year now. Tired of seeing him in the rafters looking down. Zzzzzzzzz....

The Nasty Boys and Team 3D. Did anyone else find it funny when Devon and Bubba Ray called the Nasty Boys "beached whales"? Neither team is good, but I despise the Nasty Boys.

Raven, the goth era is out.

Orlando Jordan, the small few that remember this guy remember him for licking JBL's boots years ago. He has pumped up alright, too bad he still blows.
 
Val Venis-no explanation necessary,

Nasty Boys- see above

Hall & Waltman- I honestly think for what they are trying to do with their characters is a pretty decent idea, but eventually it's going to have to lead to matches. Hall won't be able to wrestle, and while Waltman is at least somewhat still serviceable in a wrestling ring (judging from his AAA stint), no one can stand him, he has his own version of bad heat named after him! Take into account how unreliable they are, and I have a hard time leaving them on board.

Creed- is pretty much filler. Dead weight.

Amazing Red- God, do I effing hate this guy. Of all the people to push in the x-division...

Now for some release rebuttals

Lacey Von Erich- I know, absolutely atrocious in the ring. But it's really only super noticeable because she's in TNA; she'd fit in just fine in the WWE. That being said she's still awful pretty and hasn't been wrestling for very long. Trish Stratus sucked absolute dong when she first started, even up until the point she started teaming with Jericho, but she eventually got way better (still ridiculously overrated by E fans). Most of the KOs have been around, at least on the Indy scene, for a couple of years before going to TNA.

Orlando Jordan- Again, ehh, I'm a little uncomfortable saying it, but I really don't think that I, personally, have seen enough from him to decide whether he stays or goes. He's far from bad in the ring, but he's never really had any gimmick besides "hey, I'm Orlando Jordan. Seriously, that's not even a ring name; it's my real name." They should at least play off the bisexual thing; maybe something Gorgeous George inspired. I just have never seen enough of him (wwe or tna) to form much of an opinion. At least give him a storyline and then it's sink-or-swim.

Hamada- only one person I think suggested Hamada, someone who prefaced his cuts by saying he doesn't really watch TNA, so I'll cut him some slack that he's just going on hearsay. But Hamada is easily the best KO in TNA (and that's coming from a long-time Victoria fan), hell she's better than a lot of the men in WWE. Yeah, she looks a little strange, because she's half-Mexican, half Japanese, but she gets the job done in the ring like few can.
 
1. bubba the love sponge - I have never disliked anyone as much as i dislike him

2.daffney- zombie hot??? zombie not

3.dr. stevie- bwo for life

4.homicide-because i like him and he wants to go. they had a good thing going with the loose canon gimmick the he disappeared.

5.j-e-dubble eff j-a-dubble ara-e-dubble t- never did it for me and why does he need so muc time to prepare? hogan hadn't wrestled in like 1,000 years and he was ready to go.

6. jesse neal- he is too lame for tv

7.mick foley- i think that he would be better as an anouncer or in a backstage role

8.rob terry- what is he overcompensating for anyway?

9.sean morely- goodbye ladies

10. shark boy- oh hell no!!!!!

11. traci brooks- how can she be soo hot and her playboy spread be so bad?
 
I don'T see them releasing anybody because they know that the WWE might try to pick up some of those guys they are releasing especially if you release guys like Kaz and Daniels but if i was in charge of TNA i probably get rid of the x-division guys. Outside of being the focus of the next PPV which ,from what i read in the spoilers, isn't even advertise yet don'T bring nothing to TNA and after destination X all those guys will probably be back on the sideline so why not release them and get contract elsewhere. Outside of that, Sean Morley and Orlando Jordan, why where they brought in in the first place, one guys has been sideline ever since he lost to Desmond Wolfe and the other guy is so desperate to get a reaction that he going to kiss a guy on t.v. These don't bring anything to the table so why are they wasted a place on the roster for these guys.

Outside of that, all the former ECW guys, Dr Stevie, Raven, Team 3d rhino and Taz. I love these guys but the fact is Raven and Stevie, as great as they are, don'T serve a purpose in TNA anymore same goes for Rhino. As far as Team 3D is concerne, the only thing they're good for is to have dream match with over the hill tagteam like the nasty boys, so why not release them so that they can go wrestle full time in Japan where they still matters. Has for Taz, basicly i use to like him as a color commentor on Smackdown with Micheal cole but ever since he got split up with cole, he became just annoying and the fact they he always sound like he just phoning in his performance by not necessarely knowing what going on in the ring or in TNA in general just plain suck. So why not releasing him and put back Don West on commentary, at less Don actually sounded like he wanted to be there.

So to some up, if i was in charge of TNA i would release

The entire x-divison
The ECW guys
Sean morely & Orlando Jordan
 
Might as well rate the entire roster 1-5, 1 meaning that they should be cut and 5 meaning definitely not.

Abyss: Though he is not what he used to be, he is still over with the crowd. 4.

AJ Styles: Top 2-3 in TNA right now. 5.

Alex Shelley: He is not used correctly in TNA, because he hasn't had a Tag title run yet..., but he is one of the best X-Division guys. 3, only because he's underrated in TNA.

Amazing Red: Even if he is only used as a big spot guy in Ultimate X or X-Division matches, he is entertaining. Get Don West back for him. 4.

Angelina Love: Probably the 2nd best Knockout right now. 4.5.

Awesome Kong: She seems to be at a disagreement with TNA about everything, and she won't be used correctly. 3.

Brian Kendrick: He was misused in WWE, and hopefully TNA will push him to at least get to the tag titles. 3.

Brutus Magnus: The most bland character in the BI. He might be a good wrestler, but I don't like him for some reason. 2.5.

Bubba The Love Sponge: Isn't he gone already?

Chris Sabin: See: Alex Shelley. 3.

Christy Hemme: If she isn't going to wrestle anymore, then why keep her? JB can replace her with backstage interviews. I also read somewhere that she is getting paid 150k+/year. That's more than 50% of the X-Division I believe. 2.

Consequences: Useless. 1.5.

D'Angelo Dinero: Probably one of the 5 most entertaining guys in TNA right now. 5.

Daffney: She is very poorly used. She is underrated, but the fans love her, even as a heel. I'd like to see her in other promotions. 2.

Daniels: VERY underrated. He can be in AJ's place right now. I'd like to see him dominate in WWE though it'll never happen. Hopefully he will take over the X-Division again. 4.

Desmond Wolfe: My favorite in TNA right now. Best technical wrestler on the planet of the last few years. 5.

Don West: Make him Red's manager. 2.5.

Doug Williams: Should not be in the X-Division. Get him to Global. 2.5.

Dr. Stevie: No matter how much I like him, he doesn't belong in TNA because he appears about once every 2 months. Bring him to WWE or ROH. 2.

Eric Bischoff: I'm starting to like this guy. 4.

Eric Young: Underrated. Should not have lost his Global title. 4.

Generation Me: They have a great future. 4.5.

Hamada: May be the best Knockout in terms of wrestling, but fix up her looks. 4.

Hector Guerrero: Where the hell is he?

Hernandez: A bit boring without Homicide, but he's over with the fans. 3.5.

Homicide: A bit boring without Hernandez, but he's over with the fans. 3.5.

Hulk Hogan: Paid too much. I don't like the changes he's made. 1.

James Storm:We haven't seem him for about a month... which is why I don't like Hogan. He's really good though. 4.

Jay Lethal: OVERRATED. Stale gimmick. Him and Creed make the most boring tag team in the world. 1.5.

Jeff Jarrett: That match with Anderson was great. Seems like he'll be getting a title shot in the next 2 months. 4.5.

JB: Doing nothing right now, underrated. 3.

Jesse Neal: I agree that he looks like a CAW gone wrong. 1.5.

Kevin Nash: Isn't he 50? 1.5.

Kiyoshi: Haven't seen him since Jan 4th I think. 1.5.

Kurt Angle: 5.

Lacey Von Erich: Who cares how good she looks? She's useless. 1.

Madison Rayne: Why is she always taking the fall for the BP? She's the most talented of the three. 3.5.

Matt Morgan: I don't like him in the tag division, but he's still interesting. 4.

Mick Foley: Interesting character in TNA. Getting a bit old though... 3.5.

Mike Tenay: Best announcer TNA has ever had. 5.

Mr. Anderson: Seems like he's being pushed to the moon. 4.5.

Nasty Boys: One can't walk, the other is 50. The two of them together are 1000 pounds. 1.

ODB: Haven't seen her in a bit. She should really become the manager of James Storm/Robert Roode. 2.5.

Orlando Jordan: Seems like he's on everyone's list. Same with me. 1.

Raven: My favorite wrestler in history. Too bad he isn't used correctly. He still has the talent needed to main event in TNA. And I didn't know he was 45. I wish he would go back to WWE, but they are on bad terms. TNA should give him some air time. 3.5.

Rhino: Another ECW person. Another underrated person. 3.5.

Ric Flair: Perfect as a manager of AJ. 4.5.

Rob Terry: Dislike him. 1.5.

Robert Roode: Haven't seen him in a while, but a great wrestler. 4.

Samoa Joe: He needs another title shot. 4.5.

Sarita: Haven't seen her in a while. 2.5.

Sean Morley: Release him. Or make him a heel, since no one likes him anyway. 1.

Shark Boy: He has the talent, but he's in the wrong company. 1.

SoCal Val: See Lacey Von Erich and Christy Hemme. 1.5.

Sting: Where the hell is he? He's getting old, too. 2.

Suicide/Kaz: One of my favorites right now. Love his move set, and is underrated. 4.5.

Tara: She looks decent. One of the best in the ring. Too bad I often forget she's the Knockout's Champ. 4.5.

Taylor Wilde: See: Sarita. 2.

Taz: What happened to his angle with Joe? 2.5.

Team 3D: Can't believe they lost to the Nastys. Still entertaining, but only in table matches. 4.

Tomko: Overrated. He is at least used correctly, though, as a main event jobber. 2.5.

Traci: Useless. See: LVE, Christy, SoCal Val. 2.

Velvet Sky: VERY over with the fans, but overrated too. 4.

Referees: Cut everyone but Slick Johnson and Earl Hebner.
 
First I want to show my support for Amazing Red. In no way does he deserve to be cut. He's a spectacular talent and there's nothing wrong with Don West being his loud mouth manager. Amazing Red needs to feud with the likes of Brian Kendrick, Consequences Creed, Homicide and Jay Lethal. Bringing in some more X Division talent wouldn't be a bad idea.

Now to the cuts: Some of these guys are new acquisitions gone wrong. None of them should ever have gotten over on TNA stars like the Pope, Samoa Joe, Jay Lethal, etc.

Sean Morley- From the moment this guy came into TNA all that I've wondered is when the hell he's going to be gone. Val Venis died out too many years ago.

Big Rob- Muscle head turned Global champ for some reason. I would like to see World Elite gone in general, but I'll give Magnus and Williams the benefit of the doubt because they make a legit tag team.

Bubba the Love Sponge- Not a wrestler, I already think he's gone and that's great. This guy wasn't even entertaining on the stick.

Dr. Stevie- Haven't seen him in a while. I used to like Stevie Richards, 10 years ago. He's a waste of television time now that Abyss is no longer feuding with him.

Jesse Neal- Ask the people that watch this weeks Impact who this guy is. I guarantee that the majority of viewers will say, "who the hell is that?"

Kiyoshi- Sorry, he may have talent, but show him the door. Another World Elite member that should have been gone with Daivari, or I mean Sheik Bashir.

Lacey Von Erich- Hot, but no wrestling skills what so ever. She's got the personality of a rock. Put Angelina back with Velvet. Give the people what they want.

Nasty Boys- Take out the trash. What's even worse is that they won at the PPV and now Jimmy Hart is here. Hopefully these guys leave soon. It's obvious who's friends with Hogan these days.

Raven- I used to like Raven like Richards. I thought Raven was a awesome character, in WCW. He's overweight and doesn't have the skills to go at it in the ring without using weapons.

Suicide- Bring back Kaz. Or just fire his cheating ass. Seems like he's bringing more headlines of cheating on Traci outside of the ring than he ever has inside the ring.

Close Calls:
Consequences Creed, Jay Lethal, Homicide, Madison Rayne, Rhino and Shark Boy

Has anyone seen Shark Boy, why is he still on the roster? I say close call for him because his gimmick is decent. Shell Yeah!
 
Heh, it's funny how all over the place people are with TNA.
In one instance, they'll be talking about pushing the guys who made TNA what it is today and showcasing the young talent like Daniels and they should get rid of guys like Rhino. Rhino is five years younger then Daniels and has been with TNA nearly as long as they've been on TV, he's been there as long as Joe has.
Sometimes I feel like when people say "TNA Original" I think they mean guys who wrestled for TNA and ROH (and at the same time.) Like how the hell is Matt Morgan considered an original? He's been with TNA since 2007, freaking Mr Anderson wrestled in TNA years before Morgan was even a thought.
Also, while everyone wants to say it's the young guys and their spot fests that got people watching TNA ... TNA has had all sorts of talent over the years. I remember watching TNA and seeing matches between Hardy, Sabu, Abyss and Rhino ... I really liked the Paparazzi Pictures skits with Kevin Nash and half those smaller guys aren't even around anymore. I really started watching intently when Sting came back.
TNA has had Jarrett, Foley, Sting, Tomko, Christian, Ron Killings, James Gang(lol when they went to WWE), Team 3D, Nash, Steiner, Booker T, Angle, Jeff Hardy, Sabu, Raven, Konnan. I mean, name recognition has been carrying TNA for a long time.

So I thought I'd take the TNA roster and put a little description of where I think they belong.

Abyss (The bad thing is that he has put on 50-70 lbs, he use to be more jacked and not fat. But I like him, he can be funny, insane, and do practically anything. He's a definite keeper)
A.J. Styles (This guy is like 5'9 180 lbs, it's hard for me to take him seriously as a main eventer at his size. He works w/ Angle well cuz Angle is 5'10. But all the same, I like him being with Flair and while I don't really like him as a maineventer, he definitely deserves to be in TNA)
Alex Shelley (Funny guy, only 26, small as well tho. Is good in a tag team because they work as a tandem, but will he go singles? Like him tag team/xdivision)
Amazing Red (good in ring, but so very small. A guy like him though never gets old in gimmick mathes)
Brian Kendrick (guy whose good in ring and on the mic, has some good potential)
Brian Knobbs&Jerry Saggs (Nasty Boys are entertaining and now they have the Mouth of the south with them. Give them a chance, but only for a short period.)
Brother Devon &Brother Ray (Oh, I forgot ... being in ECW also makes you a TNA original lol. Eh, I think Team 3D might be a little overrated but they can work and bring in old fans)
Brutus Magnus (I have a feeling if Brutus the Barber ever showed up, this guy'd get scalped (released.) This guy seems decent in the ring, has size, can work a mic ... but doesn't he seem a lot like Desmond Wolfe? I'd def keep him though)
Chris Sabin (small, fast .. blah blah blah. Shelley def the better of the two)
Consequences Creed (Release.)
D'Angelo Dinero (NOT A MAINEVENTER. D'angelo is a mid carder that can work with both the big guys and the little guys. Also why is this guy not a heel?)
Daniels ( 39 yrs old, still athletic, doesn't have much value in the company if it weren't for being in it so long. This guy just doesn't have "it." Probably released in year or two, needs to revamp his gimmick and/or thrown in a stable/tag)
Desmond Wolfe (MAINEVENTER! This guy is gold! Only minus is he looks like he might of lost 20 lbs in the past few yrs? He definitely could bring some prestige too TNA's second tier title, which it desperately needs atm.)
Doug Williams (good midcarder)
Dr. Stevie (his heart ain't in wrestling, release if a suitable gimmick can't be found)
Eric Young (Was much better with team canada when he wasn't talking and twitching. Has the looks of a pure baby face until he opens his mouth. I was a big fan of his a couple yrs ago)
Hernandez (I could see him competing for TNA's second tier title. He's a big guy which is good.)
Homicide (This guy's ROH intro was so over. His size really holds him back b/c how can you seem threatening when your like 5'8 and pudgy. Though I'm sure this guy could spit hot fire on the mic if he needed, good addition to the X Division.)
James Storm (How can you not like a guy whose always drinking beer? I think this guy has a little untapped potential, but dunno where he'll go w/o Beer Money.)
Jay Lethal (I like the Black Machismo thing. This guys a keeper. Even w/o it, he's a funny guy so he should be able to come up w/ a new gimmick if he needed too, TNA just needs to learn how to use him. X Division wouldn't suck so much if they actually had there guys feud and not just throw them all in a gimmick match once in while after pulling them all out of the closet after a month)
Jeff Hardy (THIS GUY NEEDS TO GET BACK IN TNA AND QUICK. THIS GUY IS PURE RATINGS! Put him ne where and he'll succeed.)
Jeff Jarrett (Can he still wrestle? Jarrett is an awesome heel. Is he too old now? If not, would like to see Jarrett involved in things some way ... but not too involved that he's master of the mountain. I kind of see him as a Ted Dibiase Sr.)
Jeremy & Max (Dunno bout them on mic? but these guys are small (150 lbs?) and fast. Seem like a good tag team, interested to see what happens)
Jesse Neal (Release.)
Kevin Nash (Nash needs the money so he will be sticking around TNA as long as he can. He is chit in the ring now a days and I guess he can't even do what made him popular as a wreslter (power bomb) anymore? Though, I could see him jackknifing a couple of the X Division guys still. Would lol my ass off to see him jack knife generation me and Amazing Red. But this guy is funny as hell and nice on the mic, they can find something for big KEV.)
Kiyoshi (Release.)
Kurt Angle (Maineventer. I would like to see them stop mentioning he's the "greatest wrestler in the world" stuff though and making him out to be a machine, and let Kurt's entertaining side out. Kurt's a funny guy. He needs to get rid of that serious face he's always got.)
Matt Morgan (Absolute suck fest. He's a poor man's Sid Vicious, and Sid wasn't that good. I mean, TNA desperately needs big men though, and they just gave this scrub a long term contract so they should try and find something to do with him. He's not a maineventer, more like an enforcer. They should be using this clown too get the small xdivision guys over.)
Mick Foley (What does he really have left? There are too many other "on air personalities" that I could see Foley being fazed out.)
Mr. Anderson (MAIN EVVVVEEEENNNTTTTTTEEEEEERRRRRRRRR!! .... MAINEVENTER! This guy is awesome. Would like to see him as a heel that usually wins. Would like to see him in a stable where he makes someone like Morgan his b!tch lol.)
Orlando Jordan (Lol, @kissing guys. Cuz of that he's a definite keeper.)
Raven (Eh, never really liked this guy. I only like guys like him if they can bring in viewers for TNA, I don't think he's doin that now, so wouldn't care if he was released.)
Rhino (This guy might be short, but he's got size. He might not be Goldberg doing the spear, but he's better then skinny ass Edge. Rhino is a definite keeper, he just needs to be used right.)
Robert Roode (Interesting guy. Not the biggest guy, but he atleast has muscle mass. Pretty sure this guy can work, if not in tag team, wouldn't mind him competing for second tier title)
Rob Terry (Big guy, tna needs big guys. Can he talk? If not, there is always ways around it. Gotta give guys this big a shot.)
Samoa Joe (OVERRATED! This guy is a poor man's version of Umage, Rikishi, and Yokozuna ... those guys were 6' + and 370-500 lbs ... he's MAYBE 5'11 and like 280-300. I also hear that he's not as good in the ring as he once was. I mean, whether a heel or a face, the guy always acts the same way and to me their is nothing appealing about him unless you like men with breasts. Also, I feel like he thinks he runs TNA. Hard to like this guy, atleast for me)
Scott Hall (interested how these attacks will pan out. I figure he will be gone soon enough and he's not good enough to stick around as just a personality.)
Sean Morley (Release)
Shannon Moore (When the heck are you and Jeff getting here man?)
Shark Boy (Never see him, release)
Sting (Don't need to see him win any more titles, but do want him to stick around.)
Suicide (I don't remember what Frankie Kazarian is like, the Suicide thing has run it's course though and I know this guy is a good worker.)
Syxx-Pac (For a guy who isn't so old, he's really gotten crappy. He looks like he's always doing cocaine. Would rather see this guy with new age outlaws then the outsiders. That would be somethig too ... The Outlaws vs Outsiders! Eh, too late now though probably.)
Tomko (This guy is a chub a lub. He's got size though, if only he could tighten up that stomach. Guys this size are not bad to have around and it shouldn't take more then a couple months for this guy to be in good shape.)

Other then that.
TNA needs RVD! Other then RVD, I don't know where TNA could go to find a guy w/ name recognition that could really make an impact. And I feel like the guys in ROH are just more of the same (small guys, not great gimmicks) I mean one guy from ROH I would want in TNA is Steve Corino (as a wrestler)

Say what you want about the nasty boys, but they are apart of one of the very few feuds going on in TNA atm. There's a number of things TNA has to do better, so it's kind of hard to say who should go where and feud with who.

I would really like to see some solid factions/stables in TNA. That's where you can make your big guys like Terry, Tomko, Morgan more valuable as enforcers. I mean putting Desmond Wolfe with British Invasion as the leader seems so natural ... I also could see Desmond Wolfe (on his own) feuding w/ British Invasion which would be awesome!

TNA really needs to just start working as one and the storylines will come easy to them. They have too many guys then they can show right now, which is why the stables/factions would work out well.
I mean British Invasion vs Nasty Boys in a one on one match. Match can be interrupted by Team 3D and then also by say Beer Money (for whatever reason) ... now you just had 13 guys on TV for a one on one match.
 
Remember Kane?

Yeah. Keep in mind though that I'm not a huge fan of masked wrestlers. I personally don't think Abyss needs the mask. Now I saw someone saying Hamada should be cut. Wrong, she's one of the few Knockouts that I'd keep seeing that she can actually wrestle (and why wouldn't she be able to, she's the daughter of the legendary Gran Hamada!)
 
I'm not really sure why anyone is opting to cut guys like Lethal, Creed or Neal, to be quite honest. All of these guys have value to the company as jobbers – you know, those guys who put over other talent?

The only guys at this point that I'd consider releasing are the ones who haven't been on television in months like Shark Boy and Kiyoshi.

I think too many of you are the spoiled IWC types with little-to-no-patience and understanding as to the developmental aspects of the wrestling world, which is why I feel so many of you jump on guys like Lethal & Creed when they job out for a few weeks/months and talk about releasing them. Guys under extreme gimmicks don't always need to be released as much as they likely just need to be re-packaged. There is a very discernible difference between the two.

Lethal and Creed are both still salvageable. Even Neal could find a schtick if he were included in a stable where he wasn't necessarily the focal point (like he is as a singles wrestler).

Really, the only guys (outside the ones who are quite obviously not being used like Kiyoshi and Shark Boy), I'd consider cutting ties with at this point are Rhino, Richards and Raven becuase I feel they've essentially run their course.
 
I don't think there are *that* many people, but there are some that should be trimmed.

Non Wrestlers

Bubba: He is a complete and utter waste of space.

Mike Tenay: Worst play by play in the business. Marginally better without Don West screaming with him, but still there are way better available.

Knockouts

Taylor Wilde: She just plain bugs me. She isn't my cup of tea (in regards to "hotness") and comes off as a watered down Mickie James.

So Cal Val: You only need one out of So Cal and Hemme. Hemme wins.

Wrestlers

Suicide/Kaz: I hate the Suicide gimmick, it's way too limited, and don't find Kaz interesting enough to keep around.

Jesse Neal: Doesn't bring anything to the table I can see.

Shark Boy: The best he's done is a Stone Cold rip off gimmick. That speaks volumes.

Nasty Boys: Either you bring ability or you bring name value. The Nasty Boys are too far away from their time in the sun to being either.

Tomko: He's been tossed back and forth between TNA and WWE way too much to be taken seriously. He's done nothing but clean jobs since he's shown up. There's nowhere to go with him.

Shannon Moore: See Tomko.

Jeff Hardy: A waste of space that is simply a screw up, a no-show, and an arrest waiting to happen.

Sean Morely: This isn't the late nineties. Val doesn't have an upside.

There are others I dislike that need to be repackaged, but I think can be useful to the roster (Jay Lethal, Daniels, Dr Stevie, Abyss...)
 
From what everyone has said it seems Bubba is gone. Thank God. Should of never tried to replace JB with that guy. Terrible. I for some reason would keep Sean Morely around. I don't know what it is but I enjoy that guy. Maybe its because of my own dream to be a pornstar and a pro wrestler and he had the gimmick. Put him backstage or something, he may do a better job then Christy Hemme who I cannot take serious because shes always laughing during an interview.

Jay Lethal- I don't know if I would cut this guy, I would at least cut the Black Machismo gimmick. Everytime he comes out I pray for a run in with Randy Savage beating him down.

Raven- Im a Raven fan. But I hate seeing this guy come out looking like a bum. It worked for him 12 years ago. His face looks like Micky Rourke. He looks rough.

Tomko- Eh. Was ok in Christians Coalition. But what can you possibly do with this guy now? I love his beer gut to by the way.

Shark Boy- I just never was a fan of the whole shark mask thing. Found it pretty lame. And i haven't seen him on Impact in a long time.

Kiyoshi- no need for a reason.

Stevie Richards- Not really doing anything. Dr. Stevie wasnt very impressive. He could be used as a good mouth piece for a stable or tag team,thats all i see him doing.

Orlando Jordan- Never liked this guy. He looks like an idiot right now. His in ring skills never did anything for me. I just hope him kissing a man gets him somewhere, I think that is the only hope he has.
 
One thing that TNA does not really have is titles with Prestige. Only a couple of months ago the Global title was known as the Legend's Title, and now who even knows who the champ is? I remember reading in Bret Hart's book how he remembers early in his career wrestling for the NWA World title, little did he know it would be the first and last time.

TNA needs to make their second and third tier title's mean something. You shouldn't just be switching title holders all over the place and week after week on TV. Right now, if I had to pick two guys I would want to put the Global (wtf is the difference between Global and World?) and X Division titles
I'd have to say Desmond Wolfe for Global and Alex Shelley or The Pope for X Division.

Desmond has already proved in ROH how well he can be a champion w/o being the World Champ. There use to be a time in WWE/WWF, when people cared about who won the IC title. The IC title contenders use to be guys like Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage, Rowdy Piper, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Razor Ramon, Mr. Perfect.
TNA needs to get their top guys not holding the world title, in the hunt for the global or w/e they want to call it.

Also, the reason people are saying guys need to be released is b/c there is not enough time in TNA's two hours a week for there to just be jobbers lying around. The jobbers are whoever the guys that lose that night are.
Here are what I think the rankings should be like.

Abyss (X Division, Global)
A.J. Styles (Global, World)
Alex Shelley (X Division, Tag Team)
Amazing Red (X Division, or could Tag with a big man)
Brian Kendrick (X Division or Tag Team)
Brian Knobbs (Tag Team)
Brother Devon (Tag Team)
Brother Ray (Tag Team)
Brutus Magnus (Global, Tag Team)
Chris Sabin (X division, Tag Team)
Consequences Creed (X Division)
D'Angelo Dinero (X Division, Global) Btw, I could see Pope starting a congregation and have guys like Lethal and Creed be his followers. He already tried once to conver them heh.
Daniels (X Division, Tag Team)
Desmond Wolfe (Global, World)
Doug Williams (Global, Tag Team)
Dr. Stevie (Global, Tag Team)
Eric Young (X Division, Tag Team, Global)
Hernandez (Global, Tag Team, X Division)
Homicide (Global, Tag Team, X Division)
James Storm (Global, Tag Team, World)
Jay Lethal (X Division)
Jeff Hardy (Global, X Dvision, World, Tag Team)
Jeff Jarrett (Global, World)
Jeremy (X Division, Tag Team)
Jerry Sags (Tag Team)
Jesse Neal (Global)
Kevin Nash (Global, Tag Team)
Kiyoshi (X Division)
Kurt Angle (World)
Matt Morgan (Global, Tag Team, X Division)
Max (X Division, Tag Team)
Mick Foley (Tag Team, Global)
Mr. Anderson (World)
Orlando Jordan (Global, World)
Raven (Global, Tag Team)
Rhino (Global, X Division, World)
Robert Roode (Global, Tag Team, World)
Rob Terry (Global, X Division)
Samoa Joe (Global, X Division, Tag Team)
Scott Hall (...)
Sean Morley (Global, Tag Team)
Shannon Moore (X Division, Tag Team)
Shark Boy (X Division, Tag Team)
Sting (Global, World)
Suicide (X Division, Global)
Syxx-Pac (...)
Tomko (Global, World, Tag Team)
 
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I just had to have a word in on this thread.

After just watching the Against All Odds PPV, i think there's quite a few people that need cutting, preferably (bar Mr. Anderson) most of the new guys brought in by Hogan.
The Nasty Boys vs 3D was laughable for me, all the Nasty Boys can do is strike. I think i saw Knobbs hit a suplex an elbow drop and an abdominal stretch in nearly 20mins of action. They had to tag each other in every 30 seconds because Knobbs looked like he was gonna have a heart attack if he didn't have a breather. And also what was Jimmy Hart all about? I mean fair enough the man is a legend, but lets leave him as a legend.

Hall and Waltman are unfit, scruffy and look out of it everytime they're on screen. I've seen a few people write on here that Waltman looks in good shape and personally i think thats BS and he was always over rated as a wrestler, he just had good friends in high places. He's got zero mic skills (unless you count shouting into the mic and a few crotch thrusts as having some skills) and looks like he's off his face, chewing his gums everytime the camera focus' on him.

Orlando Jordan and Sean Morley are both wrestlers who had half decent pushes in the WWE but proved to be nothing much but talentless jobbers, and i've seen quite a few mistakes from both of them in thier handfull of matches in the TNA already.

I liked the fact that the TNA was diverse and set itself apart from the WWE with its fast paced action, the X Division and the 6 sided ring. Thats why i started watching TNA in the 1st place as it added an alternative and a bit of fresh air from the sometimes stale storylines of the WWE.

I also don't like AJ Styles as a heel either and i might get a bit of stick for this but i don't see him as ME material. I just cringe now when he speaks or acts for the camera, just because i don't think he has the skills that some of the other Main Eventers in TNA have. This whole try and copy off Flair and try and speak like him and have his swagger just doesn't work for me. I don't even rate him as a technical wrestler so to say he is the next Nature Boy is just laughable. The best thing that TNA could probably do right now is have the title go to Angle or Kennedy (thier match at Against All Odds was the highlight of the night for me) and maybe throw in Joe and bring Sting back into the mix to add a bit of 4 way rivalry.

I don't like what Hogans doing at the moment and bringing all his overweight, past it friends to the brand isn't gonna cut it with me either, i just hope he doesn't step into the ring himself, he can barely walk. It all feels a bit like the Celeb wrestling BS that he had going on tv for a while. 1 thing i do hope though, is that he can bring RVD to the brand. He'll add some amazing energy to the show, and thats what i liked about TNA, the energy.
 
More like the list of who would be saved is shorter than who would get cut!? LOL.
Let's start with the biggest trainwrecks first.

Lacey Von Erich- did you hear the chants at the last 2 on 3 handicap? Did you see her botched moonsalt?
Bubba the Love Sponge, Nasty Boys (Boys...being sarcastic...since they are like in their 40's and 50's.) Hall and Sixpac, I really don't see what either of them bring to the table since all they do is just 'wander around' the impact zone. I could do that for free!! Amazing Red- ZERO personality, Jesse Neal- the inbread love child of the oddities and A-Train, what has he done lately? Orlando Jordan- We already have him, he's called the Pope, and he is PIMPIN! Sarita and Taylor Wilde- Where the he double hockey stix have they been since losing the tag belts, and ODB, to me she is just stale, the redneck thing was old like Cody Deaner, get rid of her like the deany.
Tomko- what's the point of him being back? The one or two matches? Ok. Consequences Creed- Where's he been? I found Waldo at least 3 times while waiting for him to come around again. Jay Lethal-bless his heart-but please either do a new gimmick or send him home. Then the British Invasion- they are lost in the shuffle none of them can really carry on anything alone. While I'm on this, So Cal Val, I can take coats and canes from wrestlers for free while I'm visiting Impact Zone, save the staff peeps a few bucks, offer some autographed collectibles or something. SharkBoy- I think I last saw him on Sharkweek on Discovery Channel more than on TNA anymore. Last but not least WTF with Brian Kendrick...did Hogan ever read his previous admissions to smoking the herbage? There are SO many cuts they could do that would REALLY make sense, but there seems to be the 'getalong gang' of Hogan bringing in anyone and anything that can be entertaining.

I wouldn't be shocked if sooner or later he brings in his rejects from Celeb Wrestling like Screech, or Dennis 'rodzilla' Rodman, or Frank Stallone...why not?! We might as well even invite Octomom while we're at it with her whole brood.
 
If I chose only 1 person to cut from TNA, without a doubt it would be Lacey Von Erich. She is absolutely terrible in what she does, she isn't that good on the mic, can't wrestle for her life, and has made The Beautiful People stale IMO. She brings absolutely nothing to the table, and TNA knows that she has no reason to be out there, just because she is a Von Erich doesn't mean she belongs in the wrestling World.
 
With the current Roster, my choices are:

Nash/Hall/Waltman/Flair/Nasty Boys/Morley/Tomko/Foley---All are over the hill, can't wrestle, and are a waste of payroll.

Amazing Red--I was going to keep him, but is mic skills are horrible enough that the brought Don West in as his manager (LOL)

Creed/Jordan/Neal--Bad on the mic, but somewhat average talent

Shark Boy--I know he is battling health issues, but he is taking up payroll

Don West/Bubba Love Sponge/Hemme/Bischoff--All of them bring nothing to the promos with the wrestlers. Bischoff needs to stay in the back and plot and plan like he first did in WCW.

TNA needs to get a second show, if you want to keep this much "talent" around.
 
I would cut Tomko because I just don't take him seriously as a contender for any of the titles. He is to big for the X-Division,not good enough for the World Title, and the only reason I found him enjoyable as a Tag Team Champion was because he was champion with AJ Styles. He isn't all that great in the ring and worse on the mic. I don't think he is very loyal with TNA because he attempted to jump ship back to WWE first chance he got and only went back to TNA because WWE didn't want him any way. Whenever he finally does make his TNA return, he is way outta shape and just looks plain flabby. In my opinion, he would have to be the one to be cut.
 

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