i want to c both hardys become champion some day but i think matt will b wwe champ b4 jeff is and matt has yet 2 win the u.s title from mvp. but hopefully jeff will be in the match. im goin for kennedy vs orton vs hardy and if we r lucky vs jericho if not he will come out and challenge the winner (orton) to a match at cyber sunday for the title. to b fair to vince when they want and try to they can give the fans what they want better than any1 else.
Who will be new champion?
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underworlderZer0
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He's right. The poll was skewed.
When the poll was at 44,000 votes, Hardy was at 11.9%.
Kennedy was at 28.0%, HHH was at 25.5%, Venis was at 10.0%.
Once the numbers got above 75,000 or so, things got heavily skewed towards Venis. Bots are the most likely culprits.
BTW, I am obsessed with poll numbers, which is why I was keeping track.
The top ten from what I consider a legitimate sample were:
1) Kennedy 28.0
2) HHH 25.5
3) Hardy 11.9
4) Venis 10.0
5) Orton 9.1
6) Simmons 2.8
7) London 2.4
8) Marella 1.4
9) Rhodes 1.1
10) Benjamin .8
ratedmstar
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The reason I think the WWE are holding out for the release of what will be the main event of no mercy, is because they would like Jericho to return now but they are in negotiations with him over his sudden return and availability due to his upcoming book tour. I believe that McMahon finally accepts that Jericho is as popular and talented as us fans have always known him to be and is willing to give him the WWE Championship as a way to keep the fans happy as well as being both a Vince McMahon style apology for maybe not treating him as well as he should have done in Jericho's previous stint and also as a thank you to Jericho for staying loyal to the WWE following his break from wrestling. I don't think that even HHH himself feels that he is ready for the title again just yet and anyway he is over enough without it, I also feel that the WWE will be reluctant to put the belt on Orton as if he was to win it will just seem as though WWE have put his opponent into the match to do the job. Mr. Kennedy NO CHANCE, or at least not just yet.
If Jericho does return I can see it going like this: Randy Orton comes to the ring at the end of the evening and demands to know what the situation with the title is. Vince McMahon comes out and Orton makes the point to him that he was the Number One Contender before Cena's injury, and anyway it was just a matter of time before he defeated Cena for the title, so he may as well name him WWE Champion, right now. Vince agrees that he is correct in what he is saying and that yes, he does deserve to be considered in terms of who the next WWE Champion will be. However, Vince says he can't just hand over the WWE Championship to Orton as it would be like flushing money away and announces that the WWE Championship will be decided right here, right now in a battle royal in which the last two remaining contestants will compete in a one on one match to determine who the new champion will be. He then tells the entire roster of raw to get to the ring NOOOOOOWWWW!!! The final 3 contestants turn out to be Triple H, Randy Orton and Mr. Kennedy, however when it appears that Triple H is about to eliminate Kennedy, Orton sneaks up and eliminates the pair of them. McMahon comes back out and congratulates Orton who is celebrating with the WWE title, when the lights all begin to flicker then go down and the save_us.222 promo begins to play. The countdown begins and the fireworks go off as the screen reveals the word JERICHO, his music plays and the lights come up to reveal Jericho stood in the entrance way, arms outstretched. 'For those of you that know me, and for the benefit of those that don't, my name is Chris Jericho and I have come to save the WWE. As for you Orton, would you please shut the hell up. I, Chris Jericho have come to claim my rightful place as Champion of the WWE'. McMahon makes the WWE Title match and the bell rings, and Jericho goes on to defeat Orton by forcing him to tap to The Walls of Jericho and become WWE Champion.
If Jericho does return I can see it going like this: Randy Orton comes to the ring at the end of the evening and demands to know what the situation with the title is. Vince McMahon comes out and Orton makes the point to him that he was the Number One Contender before Cena's injury, and anyway it was just a matter of time before he defeated Cena for the title, so he may as well name him WWE Champion, right now. Vince agrees that he is correct in what he is saying and that yes, he does deserve to be considered in terms of who the next WWE Champion will be. However, Vince says he can't just hand over the WWE Championship to Orton as it would be like flushing money away and announces that the WWE Championship will be decided right here, right now in a battle royal in which the last two remaining contestants will compete in a one on one match to determine who the new champion will be. He then tells the entire roster of raw to get to the ring NOOOOOOWWWW!!! The final 3 contestants turn out to be Triple H, Randy Orton and Mr. Kennedy, however when it appears that Triple H is about to eliminate Kennedy, Orton sneaks up and eliminates the pair of them. McMahon comes back out and congratulates Orton who is celebrating with the WWE title, when the lights all begin to flicker then go down and the save_us.222 promo begins to play. The countdown begins and the fireworks go off as the screen reveals the word JERICHO, his music plays and the lights come up to reveal Jericho stood in the entrance way, arms outstretched. 'For those of you that know me, and for the benefit of those that don't, my name is Chris Jericho and I have come to save the WWE. As for you Orton, would you please shut the hell up. I, Chris Jericho have come to claim my rightful place as Champion of the WWE'. McMahon makes the WWE Title match and the bell rings, and Jericho goes on to defeat Orton by forcing him to tap to The Walls of Jericho and become WWE Champion.
I understand where you're coming from, you make a valid point. But I didn't vote for the same person the 2 times I did vote. Yesterday I voted once for Hardy because that's who I would like to be champ, and today after reading what people were saying about Val Venis getting a lot of votes, I decided to vote how I think it will really go and selected Randy Orton only once again so I could see the results since I didn't see a check results button and I was forced to vote a second time. So yeah, I'm thinking that my thinking was spot on and needs no revision since there was no other way around being able to check the results.
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TheGame12345
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Im going to have to say, Randy Ortan, HBK. Any of these 2 would be a wise choice, Randy to have him face the game right after. But Shawn really needs to go out with a bang becuase i only give him 1-2 more years if that with his bad knees and all. I may be tottally off but im preaty sure one of the 2 gets it...
fonkeemonkee
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Uh, it can't be a work. With all the scrutiny they are under, there is no way they would let one of their top performers, who isn't in trouble with the steroid scandal, go out by being injured. It just raises too many questions.
Have you seen the development physically of Cena since his debut? Sure, he wasn't named in the signature list but, neither was Snitsky.
Uh, it can't be a work. With all the scrutiny they are under, there is no way they would let one of their top performers, who isn't in trouble with the steroid scandal, go out by being injured. It just raises too many questions.
Have you seen the development physically of Cena since his debut? Sure, he wasn't named in the signature list but, neither was Snitsky.
Very Tough and Great Thing I would want to see Ok get this Orton finds out his match is a ladder match he goes out to wait to see his opponent out comes the INT champ Jeff Hardy huge upper hand in ladder match then out comes Kennedy "I am the Future Killer" after claiming to take out Cena and Lashley match ends up you think being triple threat match and then Orton and Kennedy punchin away at the top of the ladder and then boom "ON this day i see clearly" Edge takes everyone by surprise coming down from the rafters right down to take the belt and clame what is rightfully his.This sets up a big feud between Kennedy Orton and Edge. Mean while Khali beats the tired Animal he gets "hurt" and takes a little time off setting up a nice Jericho Batista feud for later on. So while the RKO Edge and Kennedy feud happens Undertaker gets in his own feud just for a little while with Khali ultimatly leading to the Deadman not being able to handle the Giant this makes the deadman angry leading him to leave to raw but weight there is a trade to get him there and here comes the Samoan Bulldozers chance at being Champ going to Smackdown just in time to beat the Giant for the belt for about a month when the Giant beats him and takes it back right around the RR time who wins that the returning DOMINATOR Lashley who calls out Khali but the match ultimatly ends up being fatal four way between the Silverback(claims to keep being cheated of shots) The samoan Bulldozer(never got his rematch against the Giant) and Lashley and Khali which is beautiful three heels and one face leading to the face taking down two men claiming to be unstoppable.Meanwhile on RAW the feud gets going between The deadman and Edge this can work because Edge can talk so much that he lets Taker still not be working full time. ending in Edge Taker at Mania 24 with the deadman getting his title reign and a nice feud between two legends HHH and taker while this happens The Animal and Cena return.
ECW V beats punk leading to Morrison coming back with ECW is a beautiful place and taking that belt back with them having a real champion not the V and Punk and Burke Bullshit.This leads to them resigning RVD to feud with Morrison or RVD could be replaced by Helms(eh dont forget the Hurricane) or Y2J
OR what would be amazing a steel cage match for THE ECW TITLE WWE TITLE WHW TITLE US CHAMP AND INT this match would be the whole show other then CAndice Beth and this match would have MVP the #1 contender Matt Hardy Jeff the #1 contender Benjamin Khali and Batista Punk and V(haha to climb out yeah right) Orton Kennedy Morrison HHH and first person out is WWE Champ(Orton) 2nd out is World Heavy Weight(Khali) 3rd out is ECW(Morrison) and 4th is US champ(Matt Hardy) and 5th is INT(Benjamin)
or they can be really boring and make it Kennedy vs Orton
ECW V beats punk leading to Morrison coming back with ECW is a beautiful place and taking that belt back with them having a real champion not the V and Punk and Burke Bullshit.This leads to them resigning RVD to feud with Morrison or RVD could be replaced by Helms(eh dont forget the Hurricane) or Y2J
OR what would be amazing a steel cage match for THE ECW TITLE WWE TITLE WHW TITLE US CHAMP AND INT this match would be the whole show other then CAndice Beth and this match would have MVP the #1 contender Matt Hardy Jeff the #1 contender Benjamin Khali and Batista Punk and V(haha to climb out yeah right) Orton Kennedy Morrison HHH and first person out is WWE Champ(Orton) 2nd out is World Heavy Weight(Khali) 3rd out is ECW(Morrison) and 4th is US champ(Matt Hardy) and 5th is INT(Benjamin)
or they can be really boring and make it Kennedy vs Orton
kieran_devlin
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NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES MAKE JOHN MORRISON WWE CHAMPION. Why are people so big on this guy he sucked so badly as Nitro and then from nowhere got the ECW Title, man i hate him so badly, he isnt that great a wrestler his gimmick sucks balls and he bores me to death and is really annoying in that JBL kinda way.
No2 never make Lashley champ this year or next year because hes to green nobody would buy it, okay it worked for Mysterio but there was build up and hed been wrestling for years and it seemed right for him to make the jump to the top of Smackdown.
Lashley isnt that great a wrestler so what he can suplex but hes boring and dosnt do as many moves as he used to do on Smackdown, lol i think he actually did a Batista and forgot some moves. Any way lashley sucks on the mic and cant draw as a champion.
Man tho Lashley would make a great Intercontinental Champion id love to see him fued with Shelton Benjamin or Jeff Hardy seems that lashley is a mid carder but is being pushed too far above his level of ability and believability as some sort of experiment.
LOL hes believable as a mid carder but as a main event crushing opponents and beating the best in WWE nah. By the way i hate how they make crap wrestlers babyfaces and make them crush the WWEs best to get the some sort of credibility and fans.
Lastly i think that Orton will be champ as for his opponent some sort of battle royal at the beginning or something to decide his opponent.
No way will Edge be on Raw he just moved to Smackdown anyway on Smackdown hes the top heel for god sake, they will do some sort of i have to win my title back thing with him and fued for the belt then feud with Taker around WM 24
No2 never make Lashley champ this year or next year because hes to green nobody would buy it, okay it worked for Mysterio but there was build up and hed been wrestling for years and it seemed right for him to make the jump to the top of Smackdown.
Lashley isnt that great a wrestler so what he can suplex but hes boring and dosnt do as many moves as he used to do on Smackdown, lol i think he actually did a Batista and forgot some moves. Any way lashley sucks on the mic and cant draw as a champion.
Man tho Lashley would make a great Intercontinental Champion id love to see him fued with Shelton Benjamin or Jeff Hardy seems that lashley is a mid carder but is being pushed too far above his level of ability and believability as some sort of experiment.
LOL hes believable as a mid carder but as a main event crushing opponents and beating the best in WWE nah. By the way i hate how they make crap wrestlers babyfaces and make them crush the WWEs best to get the some sort of credibility and fans.
Lastly i think that Orton will be champ as for his opponent some sort of battle royal at the beginning or something to decide his opponent.
No way will Edge be on Raw he just moved to Smackdown anyway on Smackdown hes the top heel for god sake, they will do some sort of i have to win my title back thing with him and fued for the belt then feud with Taker around WM 24
i think its fascinating seeing all the ways people would like it to turn out, the ladder match, hbk returning, jericho returning, edge returning, hell even the repo man returning lol.
i think that there will be the last man standing match between ken kennedy and randy orton, or a triple threat match with orton, kennedy and jericho, or orton, jericho and hbk...
i think another angle could be everyone who wins during the night is legible for a shot at the title in some kind of elimination match towards the end, i think orton gets put in automatically... i think this is a good idea but i think it would mean to many things would have to be rewritten.
like everyone else i am so intrigued to see how this turns out and for that reason i could see no mercy being the most succesful ppv in a long time
i think that there will be the last man standing match between ken kennedy and randy orton, or a triple threat match with orton, kennedy and jericho, or orton, jericho and hbk...
i think another angle could be everyone who wins during the night is legible for a shot at the title in some kind of elimination match towards the end, i think orton gets put in automatically... i think this is a good idea but i think it would mean to many things would have to be rewritten.
like everyone else i am so intrigued to see how this turns out and for that reason i could see no mercy being the most succesful ppv in a long time
I don't see Jericho winning the gold sure, it'd come as a surprise, but we don't know that he'll be returning at No Mercy for sure, the date could've been a red herring.. we don't even know he'll be coming back for sure either.
I'd like to think that he's coming back, but the second cryptic video that aired this past Monday on Raw was more HBK than Jericho, one's bound to be a red herring.
I still think that it'll be Orton taking the strap this Sunday.
I'd like to think that he's coming back, but the second cryptic video that aired this past Monday on Raw was more HBK than Jericho, one's bound to be a red herring.
I still think that it'll be Orton taking the strap this Sunday.
TheGame2128879
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Ratedmstar I must say, that is the shit !!!!! I love it !!!!! could anyone have thought of something better ???? I think not. Not even the likes of my genius would have neccessarily thought of a twist and turn like that. Don't think I'm saying your more of a genius than I am, but damn what a good idea.
Now Bitches, listen up. Theres been a lot of funny, quirky, intersting, and brilliant ideas tossed around as to what will be done with this scenario and yet no one has really addressed what will happen logically.
I don't see any way that The Undertaker has a chance, he's a Smackdown star and that's where he belongs, they need his star power and he needs a place to shine, Smackdown is it. Anyone from Smackdown is out of the question, the next guy to hold that mockery of a belt is and has to be a Raw superstar, no question.
Now, the next thing is narrowing down the prospects logically and figureing it all out the way that WWE Creative might do. This means we have to think outside the box, I don't believe there will be a Jericho return just because I don't think this Cena thing was planned and it would be early for him to come back so he's out of the picture.
Triple H is a prime candidate and the fact that Vince said this would make history leads me to the thought that Triple H could be the guy simply because adding another title reign to his record would be history in some way as it would be his 11th title reign. I personally see Triple H being the Next Ric Flair as far as titles go and this would be another step in that direction. I do agree with many of you that he doesn't need the title becasue he is already popular enough, but with Cena out of the picture he is obviously the next most popular guy with the most earning potential, remember marketing is a big deal here with the WWE and Triple H is very, very marketable. He has the stuff to be champion as we all know and is no stranger to the spotlight so he would be a natural fit. The only reason I see that he might not even be considered would be due to the fact that he does already have a scheduled match at No Mercy with Umaga and it's been marketed and advertised to be a big deal, maybe not though they can possible combine the two matches and make a 3 way dance, Triple H, Umaga, Orton. I don't know and I don't want to say that the WWE is going to have The Game take the reigns but I also wouldn't be suprised if they did. if it was him than Triple H v.s. Randy Orton at No Mercy, not a bad match and either way the fans should be happier with their new champion than with Cena. It would be a breath of fresh air for everyone as I believe it will be anyways since Cena has held the belt for so long.
O.K. Next Prospect
Mr.Kennedy,....Uuuuhhh I dont know..... It's not like I don't like Kennedy but I don't really see him as the best guy in the business, on Raw, or as a real champion. I could see him holding the Intercontinental for quite a while or something like that but I don't think he's quite ready to be the main man yet. He does have charisma comeing out of his ears practically, and he is a pretty good wrestler, entertaining on the microphone, good entrance, everything. I just don't think it's his time yet, he could be in a match for the title but I don't foresee him wearing it anytime soon. In the future he definately has the potential and could do it but not right now, I say give him another year or so and strap him up but as for sunday at No Mercy, not winning the belt or being in the match unless it is a 3 way or some other special match like that.
Alright Next Candidate.....
Let's talk about oooooohh..... Shawn Michaels. This is an interesting idea here and other than Triple H who better to just throw in a title match than The Main Event, The Showstopper Shawn Michaels. He's been gone for a while, no one would really expect it and you all know it would be a spectacular match. The only thing with that is that if it is Shawn Michaels is in the match with Orton you pretty well know how that is going to turn out. Orton RKO for the title. I don't see them putting their stock back into Shawn simply because of his age and physical condition. Now I was suprised when I saw him at Wrestlemania against Cena, he was in amazing shape and put on one of the greatest matches of his career in my opinion but he is a little older than he was in 1996 and so on if you get my point, he's no spring daisy anymore. I love HBK and I would like nothing more than to see him with that championship gold again but realistically I don't see it happening.
Next test subject........
Umaga, Now guys, I hate to even mention his name because I hate Umaga. I think he's one of dumbest characters they've had for quite some time and I thougt he was worthless as the Intercontinental champion anyways, but ! since he is one of their main guys he has to be ruled in. Once again I see it as unlikely since he is already scheduled with Triple H but who knows what McMahon and WWE Creative would do.
Speaking of Intercontinental Champions lets get to the current champ Jeff Hardy. Now this is a prospect I like. I could see it happening, Randy Orton V.S. Jeff Hardy for the WWE Championship, it would work too, technically Jeff Hardy would be the next guy in line since he is the Intercontinental Champion just one step below WWE Champion, and, we all know he would put on one hell of a match as he always does. This guy has been through the business in and out of the company and appears to be with the WWE for good, he has shown true grit in his last year or so and proved to be real championship material and I could see him useing that crash and burn style to take Orton out in some way. Do I think should he be in the match that he would win.... Not neccessarily, but.. looking at it from a marketing prospectus this guy could be the one, he is already extremely popular and has a huge fan base, this would simply boost that through the roof. He could carry the title, I don't know if he could hold it for very long with the likes of Triple H, Orton, Kennedy, and Umaga on his heels but for a little while it would be a smart move in my opinion. The only real question about that is whether the regular fans and real fans like ourselves would but into it and accept him as the best in the business, that is a gamble I think but Vince has done worse before so I could see it happening on a very, very slim chance.
Now, the only other way I see this going and the only other guy I see being even a remote possibility would be a guy comeing back from an injury..... Bobby Lashley. What a shock that would be huh ??? I could see it and believe it. Bobby Lashley V.S. Randy Orton for the title, not a bad idea. It would shock everyone and make for a really interesting match. I think Orton will lose that match just because it is Lashley but then again if he was just returning I don't think they would bring him in right away and just strap him with the title. It is an interesting idea though so we should be waiting for that too possibly.
The last prospect is the definite challenger Randy Orton, now I know your saying "why are you talking about him as a prospect, he's already in the match." and that is true. I am just going to tell you why I think no matter who it is he gets his title back. Randy Orton as we all know is a 2-time former champion, and above that he got it really early in his career before he was really ready to get it. he went to the top really fast, wasn't ready, and dropped the ball. as a result he got knocked back down the pedestal and as we've watched over time he has worked his way back to the top. I believe wether you like him or not you have to admit that he has earned his time now. He's got more wrestling experinence, is in great shape, and has really been playing his cards right. If you look at this past year he has decimated everyone in his path and lived up to his "Legend Killer" monicker. This whole year they have been building him and building him and building him up and with the WWE putting that much effort behind him I dont foresee him not getting the title. Now there are a lot of other guys and a lot of other possibilities but I believe the WWE is going to put their stock in Randy Orton. Looking at the Cena-Orton storyline I think they were going to give him the title sunday anyways and I also think they are going to go back on that. As for who is going to be the guy he fights, I don't know, but no matter who it is I don't think it matters at this point. Randy Orton whether you like it or not is more than likely going to be your new WWE Champion.
Where the WWE is going to go with this I don't know, if they want to give Orton the belt and make it more legit I could see them putting him in some kind of multi challenger match like a triple threat or fatal four way and him pulling it out somehow, but right now WWE has really got everyone by the short and curlys on this thing. I like the idea of having a Battle Royal and the winner of that fighting Orton at No mercy that same night but I'm not too positive that's what they will do. I have to say Iam actually stumpped on this one. All I know for sure is that we finally!!! finally!!! get a new champion and I couldn't be happier. I think it was hurting the company to have Cena winning non stop regardless of opponent and circumstance just becasue everyone has to lose somehow and I don't think it has been fair to everyone else for him to have the gold for so long with no waiver. however, bottom line I think it is RKO season now and whatever happens after that is going to be spectacular and make the busines stronger.
Now Bitches, listen up. Theres been a lot of funny, quirky, intersting, and brilliant ideas tossed around as to what will be done with this scenario and yet no one has really addressed what will happen logically.
I don't see any way that The Undertaker has a chance, he's a Smackdown star and that's where he belongs, they need his star power and he needs a place to shine, Smackdown is it. Anyone from Smackdown is out of the question, the next guy to hold that mockery of a belt is and has to be a Raw superstar, no question.
Now, the next thing is narrowing down the prospects logically and figureing it all out the way that WWE Creative might do. This means we have to think outside the box, I don't believe there will be a Jericho return just because I don't think this Cena thing was planned and it would be early for him to come back so he's out of the picture.
Triple H is a prime candidate and the fact that Vince said this would make history leads me to the thought that Triple H could be the guy simply because adding another title reign to his record would be history in some way as it would be his 11th title reign. I personally see Triple H being the Next Ric Flair as far as titles go and this would be another step in that direction. I do agree with many of you that he doesn't need the title becasue he is already popular enough, but with Cena out of the picture he is obviously the next most popular guy with the most earning potential, remember marketing is a big deal here with the WWE and Triple H is very, very marketable. He has the stuff to be champion as we all know and is no stranger to the spotlight so he would be a natural fit. The only reason I see that he might not even be considered would be due to the fact that he does already have a scheduled match at No Mercy with Umaga and it's been marketed and advertised to be a big deal, maybe not though they can possible combine the two matches and make a 3 way dance, Triple H, Umaga, Orton. I don't know and I don't want to say that the WWE is going to have The Game take the reigns but I also wouldn't be suprised if they did. if it was him than Triple H v.s. Randy Orton at No Mercy, not a bad match and either way the fans should be happier with their new champion than with Cena. It would be a breath of fresh air for everyone as I believe it will be anyways since Cena has held the belt for so long.
O.K. Next Prospect
Mr.Kennedy,....Uuuuhhh I dont know..... It's not like I don't like Kennedy but I don't really see him as the best guy in the business, on Raw, or as a real champion. I could see him holding the Intercontinental for quite a while or something like that but I don't think he's quite ready to be the main man yet. He does have charisma comeing out of his ears practically, and he is a pretty good wrestler, entertaining on the microphone, good entrance, everything. I just don't think it's his time yet, he could be in a match for the title but I don't foresee him wearing it anytime soon. In the future he definately has the potential and could do it but not right now, I say give him another year or so and strap him up but as for sunday at No Mercy, not winning the belt or being in the match unless it is a 3 way or some other special match like that.
Alright Next Candidate.....
Let's talk about oooooohh..... Shawn Michaels. This is an interesting idea here and other than Triple H who better to just throw in a title match than The Main Event, The Showstopper Shawn Michaels. He's been gone for a while, no one would really expect it and you all know it would be a spectacular match. The only thing with that is that if it is Shawn Michaels is in the match with Orton you pretty well know how that is going to turn out. Orton RKO for the title. I don't see them putting their stock back into Shawn simply because of his age and physical condition. Now I was suprised when I saw him at Wrestlemania against Cena, he was in amazing shape and put on one of the greatest matches of his career in my opinion but he is a little older than he was in 1996 and so on if you get my point, he's no spring daisy anymore. I love HBK and I would like nothing more than to see him with that championship gold again but realistically I don't see it happening.
Next test subject........
Umaga, Now guys, I hate to even mention his name because I hate Umaga. I think he's one of dumbest characters they've had for quite some time and I thougt he was worthless as the Intercontinental champion anyways, but ! since he is one of their main guys he has to be ruled in. Once again I see it as unlikely since he is already scheduled with Triple H but who knows what McMahon and WWE Creative would do.
Speaking of Intercontinental Champions lets get to the current champ Jeff Hardy. Now this is a prospect I like. I could see it happening, Randy Orton V.S. Jeff Hardy for the WWE Championship, it would work too, technically Jeff Hardy would be the next guy in line since he is the Intercontinental Champion just one step below WWE Champion, and, we all know he would put on one hell of a match as he always does. This guy has been through the business in and out of the company and appears to be with the WWE for good, he has shown true grit in his last year or so and proved to be real championship material and I could see him useing that crash and burn style to take Orton out in some way. Do I think should he be in the match that he would win.... Not neccessarily, but.. looking at it from a marketing prospectus this guy could be the one, he is already extremely popular and has a huge fan base, this would simply boost that through the roof. He could carry the title, I don't know if he could hold it for very long with the likes of Triple H, Orton, Kennedy, and Umaga on his heels but for a little while it would be a smart move in my opinion. The only real question about that is whether the regular fans and real fans like ourselves would but into it and accept him as the best in the business, that is a gamble I think but Vince has done worse before so I could see it happening on a very, very slim chance.
Now, the only other way I see this going and the only other guy I see being even a remote possibility would be a guy comeing back from an injury..... Bobby Lashley. What a shock that would be huh ??? I could see it and believe it. Bobby Lashley V.S. Randy Orton for the title, not a bad idea. It would shock everyone and make for a really interesting match. I think Orton will lose that match just because it is Lashley but then again if he was just returning I don't think they would bring him in right away and just strap him with the title. It is an interesting idea though so we should be waiting for that too possibly.
The last prospect is the definite challenger Randy Orton, now I know your saying "why are you talking about him as a prospect, he's already in the match." and that is true. I am just going to tell you why I think no matter who it is he gets his title back. Randy Orton as we all know is a 2-time former champion, and above that he got it really early in his career before he was really ready to get it. he went to the top really fast, wasn't ready, and dropped the ball. as a result he got knocked back down the pedestal and as we've watched over time he has worked his way back to the top. I believe wether you like him or not you have to admit that he has earned his time now. He's got more wrestling experinence, is in great shape, and has really been playing his cards right. If you look at this past year he has decimated everyone in his path and lived up to his "Legend Killer" monicker. This whole year they have been building him and building him and building him up and with the WWE putting that much effort behind him I dont foresee him not getting the title. Now there are a lot of other guys and a lot of other possibilities but I believe the WWE is going to put their stock in Randy Orton. Looking at the Cena-Orton storyline I think they were going to give him the title sunday anyways and I also think they are going to go back on that. As for who is going to be the guy he fights, I don't know, but no matter who it is I don't think it matters at this point. Randy Orton whether you like it or not is more than likely going to be your new WWE Champion.
Where the WWE is going to go with this I don't know, if they want to give Orton the belt and make it more legit I could see them putting him in some kind of multi challenger match like a triple threat or fatal four way and him pulling it out somehow, but right now WWE has really got everyone by the short and curlys on this thing. I like the idea of having a Battle Royal and the winner of that fighting Orton at No mercy that same night but I'm not too positive that's what they will do. I have to say Iam actually stumpped on this one. All I know for sure is that we finally!!! finally!!! get a new champion and I couldn't be happier. I think it was hurting the company to have Cena winning non stop regardless of opponent and circumstance just becasue everyone has to lose somehow and I don't think it has been fair to everyone else for him to have the gold for so long with no waiver. however, bottom line I think it is RKO season now and whatever happens after that is going to be spectacular and make the busines stronger.
Jeff Hardy has been in this business for 10 years. Lets take a look at his accomplishments. Tag team champ, Intercontinental Champ.. thats about it. Everyone needs to face facts. The Hardys got a free ride on Edge's coat tail. They are staying in the midcard.
Orton is a two time champion? Where was I during his second reign?
Oh yeah.. You're a genius alright. Jeff Hardy as the WWE Champion and Orton as a former two time champ.
Anyway.. The logical choice here is for Orton to walk out with the WWE title. True, he is immature and doesn't have the best track record.. but I think if he was put in the top spot he would straighten up. Plus, he has been getting a huge push. It wouldn't make much sense to put the belt on anyone else
As far as his opponet(s) go.. I can see Triple H and Umaga feuding with Orton. This would be a great match.. Say what you will about Umaga, but he is great in the ring. This would lead to a possible Orton-Trips feud.
scottp1969
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The Hardy's caught a ride on Edge's coat tails? That isn't exactly true. They have been in some amazing matches, and are both doing pretty good right now, and edge isn't around. They earned their spots, by the work they put into their matches, not by riding someone's coat tails as you put it.
and by the way, jeff hardy has been:
intercontinental champ.
hardcore champ
lightheavyweight champ
european champ
tag team champ
and by the way, jeff hardy has been:
intercontinental champ.
hardcore champ
lightheavyweight champ
european champ
tag team champ
I have to agree that the Hardy's did NOT ride Edge's coattails...they were all in the mid card at the same time, and honestly, Jeff and Matt were the most entertaining part of many Hardys VS E and C matches. Matt is a great wrestler and would have been where he is now sooner if Edge did not basically get him canned, Jeff is charismatic and rose to the top of the mid card faster than Edge did. Edge is great, I will say that, but the Hardys paved their own way.
Now, to answer the question, it will NOT be Y2J, he isn't going to be at No Mercy. Jeff may be in the title match, but he will not win. I don't think HBK is ready to return, but they may rush him. HHH is a good possibility, as is Taker. Regardless, Orton was walking out of No Mercy as champ anyway, so they won't change that.
Now, to answer the question, it will NOT be Y2J, he isn't going to be at No Mercy. Jeff may be in the title match, but he will not win. I don't think HBK is ready to return, but they may rush him. HHH is a good possibility, as is Taker. Regardless, Orton was walking out of No Mercy as champ anyway, so they won't change that.
Orton is definately the favorite in all of this. Sure he is supposed to be a dick outside of the ring, but i really don't care about that a whole lot. I think Orton is one of the few heels that i will watch (Kennedy being the other, and don't rule him out of the match).
As for Jeff Hardy, he's the reason i even turn to RAW. IF he was going to be in the match the arena will go freakin nuts. Sure hes the IC champ but whats the problem with Hardy as a double champ, MVP's one and Cena was too as WWE champ and tag champ. Don't know where i was goin with that. But the biggest problem is that Jeff is a small guy, even compared to Orton, but he works with what hes got, SWANTON!
One cool scenario is to have CM Punk lose the ECW Championship at the beginning of the show, give him an hour and a half to rest, come out take WWE Championship BAM straight to the A-show. Orton Goes To Sleep
Jericho=f*ckin sh*t my pants
As for Jeff Hardy, he's the reason i even turn to RAW. IF he was going to be in the match the arena will go freakin nuts. Sure hes the IC champ but whats the problem with Hardy as a double champ, MVP's one and Cena was too as WWE champ and tag champ. Don't know where i was goin with that. But the biggest problem is that Jeff is a small guy, even compared to Orton, but he works with what hes got, SWANTON!
One cool scenario is to have CM Punk lose the ECW Championship at the beginning of the show, give him an hour and a half to rest, come out take WWE Championship BAM straight to the A-show. Orton Goes To Sleep
Jericho=f*ckin sh*t my pants
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i honestly think that hbk will make his return. this has been a long awaited return for like ever. i dought that y2j will be coming back right now there has been no sign of him coming back. and besides the last time we saw hbk was when he got "punted" in the face by randy orton. the other person it could be is Ric Flair. yesterday on ecw mr.mcmahon said there will be history made and i think this is what he is talking about a 17 time world heavyweigt champion. You just never know...
HBK would make a lot of sense seeing Orton "took him out" so HBK could get his revenge taking the WWE Title from Orton, maybe with an assist from HHH or something along those lines...
i dont think HBK will come back, remember how WWE was pushing for him to come back but HBK made it clear that he wasnt ready, i think hes still ''not ready'' and we will see him probably next month, its not impossible, but i think its a long shot, just like jericho, my guess is that it will be some1 from RAWs current roster
it will probably end up being randy orton, though it would be interesting to see WWE throw jeff in the mix, i think a triple threat with kennedy, orton and jeff would be really entertaining, as long as jeff doesnt win, i love the guy but i dont see him as WWE championship material, the problem is neither of these 3 could carry RAW or sell the way WWE wants them too, sooo out of the current roster the only person that could carry WWE, have fans behind him, and sell a lot, is triple H.. but i dont see how vince will put him in the title picture seeing as though tirple H is not only in a match against umaga but a feud against vince... its jusr all way too confusing, no doubt this ppv will be interesting...
it will probably end up being randy orton, though it would be interesting to see WWE throw jeff in the mix, i think a triple threat with kennedy, orton and jeff would be really entertaining, as long as jeff doesnt win, i love the guy but i dont see him as WWE championship material, the problem is neither of these 3 could carry RAW or sell the way WWE wants them too, sooo out of the current roster the only person that could carry WWE, have fans behind him, and sell a lot, is triple H.. but i dont see how vince will put him in the title picture seeing as though tirple H is not only in a match against umaga but a feud against vince... its jusr all way too confusing, no doubt this ppv will be interesting...
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I think they should give Val a shot , hes been with the company the longest (with out a title shot) and has been busted and bruised to make others look good, in my opinion he would deserve that oppurtunity.
chrisarizzi
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personally, i'm pushing for the undertaker.
he has to relinquish his title, so i'd say he's getting it back soon anyways.
besides, he's beaten just about everyone on smackdown.
the undertaker vs. triple H/ HBK/ Jericho/Kennedy/ Umaga and maybe even Vince McMahon would be decent.
he has to relinquish his title, so i'd say he's getting it back soon anyways.
besides, he's beaten just about everyone on smackdown.
the undertaker vs. triple H/ HBK/ Jericho/Kennedy/ Umaga and maybe even Vince McMahon would be decent.
chrisarizzi
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to add to that:
i wouldnt be surprised if Big Daddy V somehow loses to CM Punk and then V just goes to Raw. i heard he was supposed to switch brands anyway.
i wouldnt be surprised if Big Daddy V somehow loses to CM Punk and then V just goes to Raw. i heard he was supposed to switch brands anyway.
chrisarizzi
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alot of title changes have happened when one wasn't on the brand. i was there when angle won the world heavyweight championship. edge moved to sd, to beat taker
. khali moved to sd, to win the title. and there are some multi brand title defenses.
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sinister_edge
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I know another 20 man battle royal were Kahli switches brands yet again and wins it! nah. . . that would be terrible, but heres an i dea i could only dream of(and im just paraphrasing!), Orton comes out demanding the WWe title and Vince comes out and says he will be in a Last man Standing match for the WWe Title , against this man......"If Ya Smellllll,
What the Rock is Cooking?" the Rock comes out and dominates Orton! Leaving No Mercy with the WWE Title!!! i can dream can i?
What the Rock is Cooking?" the Rock comes out and dominates Orton! Leaving No Mercy with the WWE Title!!! i can dream can i?Go read the news story on wwe.com about who will be the next WWE Champ. They hint at various people, Triple H, Jeff Hardy, Umaga. But also people from other brands like Khali and Big Daddy V. But most interesting, is this quote in their story:
And no speculation over the future WWE Champion would be complete without whisperings of a dark horse, a long shot so unexpected that their mere presence would send the crowd and any opponent back on their heels.
And no speculation over the future WWE Champion would be complete without whisperings of a dark horse, a long shot so unexpected that their mere presence would send the crowd and any opponent back on their heels.