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end of the day it will be a shitty battle royal as that is the way it always seems to end up now for me what was the point on smackdown having that battle royal the friday b4 the pay-per-view loved khali going through that table as in terms of these 222 videos how do we know it's not both jericho and HBK they're hinting at returning
 
This one goes out to oasys who thought it cute to try and massacre my masterpeice and question my knowledge. I will retract one statement about Orton being a 2 time champion I was wrong on that one and was thinking of his I.C. run and got confused as I was typing really fast. I had to research to make sure, I just had a glich on that, however he is whats called a triple crown winner which is someone who has held all levels of gold so if you counted all the titles he's won it would be a lot more than two.

I find it hilarious that you said the hardys rode on the coat tails of edge. That's a joke right ??? Jeff hardy has far surpassed Matt and look at the buzz caused just from me mentioning him with the title. the only thing about him is that he is not very big but as I said he does have that crazy crash and burn style that can take almost anyone out so he could do it. So go fuck yourself oasys.
 
This one goes out to oasys who thought it cute to try and massacre my masterpeice and question my knowledge.

What you wrote was far from a masterpiece. And as far as knowledge goes..? Try spelling masterpiece correctly before you proclaim your intelligence or lack there of :icon_wink:


I will retract one statement about Orton being a 2 time champion I was wrong on that one and was thinking of his I.C. run and got confused as I was typing really fast.

Being the Intercontinental Champion is far from being a World Champion. Maybe you shouldn't type so fast..

I had to research to make sure, I just had a glich on that

I thought you were a genius :icon_eek:

Jeff hardy has far surpassed Matt

Jeff is a talentless, immature kid who shouldn't even be in the company. When was the last time he was suspended? Oh yeah.. a few weeks ago. Matt, on the other hand, isn't doing too bad. He is in a great feud with MVP, who, in my estimate, will be a multi time World Champion and head of the company.

he only thing about him is that he is not very big but as I said he does have that crazy crash and burn style that can take almost anyone out so he could do it.

That crazy crash and burn style you speak of is called being a spot monkey. The performer has to do some kind of crazy, acrobatic move to get the crowd's attention. That isn't world champ material

So go fuck yourself oasys.

You want me to fuck myself? Thats a bit off topic.. Moving along

I would like to see Val Venis get a title shot. Do I think he should become the WWE Champion? No, although it would be interesting to see and he does deserve it.

Seeing as how Triple H and Umaga are still scheduled for their same match at No Mercy, I think Randy Orton is going to face a returning wrestler. The remaining people that are not on the No Mercy card don't have enough star power to pull off a Battle Royal. That would only lead to a shit match that nobody cares about.. but that is typical of the WWE

Prediction: Randy Orton vs. Chris Jericho with Orton winning the title
 
Would you guys mind seeing Jeff Hardy as the Champ ? Yes hes not that big and musculer wrestler a Wwe champion should but good god hes been in this buisness for long enough to ear a title shot and hes one of the few I can really say he puts his career on the line each single match to impress the fans. HE fully Desreves it and the fans love him and seriously the most entertianing in ring performer at the moment.
 
Would you guys mind seeing Jeff Hardy as the Champ ? Yes hes not that big and musculer wrestler a Wwe champion should but good god hes been in this buisness for long enough to ear a title shot and hes one of the few I can really say he puts his career on the line each single match to impress the fans. HE fully Desreves it and the fans love him and seriously the most entertianing in ring performer at the moment.


Your right, he isn't the muscular type that WWE seems to like so much but he is capable of being the champ and deserves it.
Just look at what he did in TNA, he was given the ball and he ran with that mofo, and now he's back in WWE he's back to the midcard despite the fact that he can cut a decent promo when he's allowed to (guessing Vinnie didn't pay much attention to Jeff's stint in TNA to notice) and he's an awesome wrestler who actually puts his all into his matches unlike a recent champ who I can't seem to be able to remember his name... hmmm sure it will come to me eventually...
 
Would you guys mind seeing Jeff Hardy as the Champ ? Yes hes not that big and musculer wrestler a Wwe champion should but good god hes been in this buisness for long enough to ear a title shot and hes one of the few I can really say he puts his career on the line each single match to impress the fans. HE fully Desreves it and the fans love him and seriously the most entertianing in ring performer at the moment.

Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing him as champ, granted yes I am a fan of him, but that aside. The man is way over with the crowd, puts a great matches that are always entertaining. I don't think he could be a long term champ, but I think he could be a transitional champ for like a month or 2 tops. Now I he has a lack of mic skills, but so did Benoit when he was champ and yet he still got the title, granted Benoit was also one of, if the best in the ring but that's besides the point for obvious reasons. Now one complaint people have said on here about him being champ is that he was recently suspended back in august. Oh darn, Orton destroys a hotel room, has been suspended for drugs too, constantly gets in trouble for being idiot and gets a main event push for the title, that makes sense.... But Hardy will never be champ, and Orton will win on sunday so ehh whatever.
 
If they put the World title on Rey Mysterio, then Jeff Hardy certainly has the chance of taking the WWE Championship. Would I like it? No, not really.. I wouldn't want Jeff in the Main Event unless he was built up to it properly, like winning a proper number one contender's match or even winning next year's Royal Rumble or something. I'd much rather that than him just thrown in to fill whilst the faces heal themselves before being sent back to the midcard.
 
for gods sake jeff hardy gets a freakin title shot every single week. if not he is defending a belt or fighting for a number one contender spot. think im lying or wrong...look it up. its disgusting. and it has been like that since before he left the wwe a few years ago. i just pray someone gets off their butt, does some looking and backs me on this because i know im gonna get heat from the hardy fans....

jeff is AVERAGE at best (still better than matt). so he can do a flippy move off the top rope...so what. no mic skills, no size, a history of being troubled by his personal life, and the fact that he has had more title shots than most people can have in 3 careers despite having the worst win loss record of any wrestler who has worked for the wwe in the last 5 years, except maybe funaki, makes me pray he never gets another belt simply handed to him. jeez, can the guy get some build up first, maybe win a match or two before getting a title shot? his character is totally ruined IMO and i wouldnt mind NEVER seeing him again in any ring.

anyway before you blast me with your love for jeff, just do the homework and please show me a few matches in the last 5 years where he didnt fight for a title/number one contender spot. and maybe you can find a few matches he won first and then got a title shot instead of just having one handed to him week after week even tho he does nothing but lose (with the exception of the suspension period). o wait..dont bother. you cant find it because it didnt happen.

all that being said the wwe is smart to not ever have him in a fued because it would just go horrible. no mic skills and his charisma lasts as long as it takes him to get to the ring. after that BOOORING. am i wrong? then name a fued he had since he came back. an actual fued too not just fighting umaga 7 weeks in a row and calling it a fued. again you cant because even vince knows the guy cant cut a promo to save his life so that excludes him from fueds altogether.

and since he cant do fueds he cant have a world title. sorry to make this so long but it all had to be said to understand my view.
 
the 2 matches he had with kennedy, first in july where he fell, and then on his return, were not title matches, nor were they number 1 contender matches. what about the feud he had with johnny nitro that lasted for what around 5 months? contrary to what you think, he hasn't had a title shot every week, now, or before he left. after he lost the european title to rvd when they merged them, i dont think he had a title shot at all after that until he left. that was when he had his story with trish and steven richards/victoria.
 
kk well heres my opinion.

Based on the 2 wwe polls and orton not getting good votes for the title, my money is on it going to him automatically then bang losing it to a mystery opponent later that night... Mystery opponent being none other than Chris Jericho, who will most likely pay homage to the fact hes saving the WWE from a jackass like orto who is a disgrace to wrestling (thats not my opinon on Orton i do happen to think hes the best in the business right now and badly used)

This opinon is on the basis Jericho may well be showing up at No Mercy and the way i figure it what better way to make No Mercy huge than to throw that into it. Buys on the replays will be huge and there will be a stupidly large increase in veiwers the following night to catch the fallout... TBH thats how id play it if i wanted to make money...
 
To put it mildly, WWE has a problem.

Most of their 'top' guys are already in matches at NM. So, unless they want to screw around with the entire card, that leaves the options for Orton's opponent to be either A. someone without a match or B. someone returning.

Possibility A is, at this point, really only Kennedy. It may be heel vs heel, but there's honestly no one else.

Possibility B consists of HBK, Jericho, or Edge. All of those would be rushed returns, and one of them would be the wrong brand. Could you bring Edge to Raw? Sure, but Smackdown is lacking talent as it is. Edge is the one hope Smackdown has at redeeming itself in the next few months, so that seems pointless. Jericho would also be rushed, as we don't know if he's ready or not.

Now... the BIGGEST problem is this. If it's someone making their 'big return', they aren't going to lose to Orton. Jericho re-debuts, and loses? Unlikely. So, if they want Orton with the title, it has to be someone already on the roster, and someone who won't be weakened by losing to Orton. Then again, if Orton loses, you're left with a 3 month long feud with no pay off for the guy who was, reasonably, supposed to get the title out of it.

This is a tricky situation, and one in which I see Kennedy as the only solution.
 
the 2 matches he had with kennedy, first in july where he fell, and then on his return, were not title matches, nor were they number 1 contender matches. what about the feud he had with johnny nitro that lasted for what around 5 months? contrary to what you think, he hasn't had a title shot every week, now, or before he left. after he lost the european title to rvd when they merged them, i dont think he had a title shot at all after that until he left. that was when he had his story with trish and steven richards/victoria.

the first match with kennedy WAS for a number one contender spot, coachman came out earlier in the night and said every match will help determine the new number one contender.

the other was on august 27th, and yes you have found one of the uber rare matches where he didnt fight for a title/contender.

the so called fued with nitro can be described like this. wwe was putting over MNM by having them fight the newly reformed hardys. jeff injured mercury and thus we were left with a jeff/nitro 'fued'. its in quotes because it was exactly like i said in my earlier post...a non-fued. they just fought week after week, the only words thrown in the fued were from Milena/Nitro b/c jeff cant use a mic without putting us all to sleep.

jeff/nitro had a series of matches, not a fued IMO. and the fact that it happened only because of an injury also gives me trouble calling it a fued. it was more of a band-aid over some original plans.

im not gonna argue with anyone over every post about hardy i just want you hardy fans to realize he earns absolutely nothing he is a jobber who champions get to beat on and when the belt is supposed to go to someone else they give it to him for a second to transfer it to someone else.

the bottom line is no one here can show me a worse win/loss record for any superstar who has been there as long as hardy.
 
I'd actually mind him being champ. jus look his brother Matt is on smackdown and still hasn't got a world title shot. if jeff wins then Matt has the world title too. it just wouldn't be right
 
no, he had 2 matches. july 30, where he fell on his head. and then another on august 27. and the matches started in september with nitro. long before the hardys/mnm matches.
transfer champ huh? if i remember, he won it from nitro, lost it to nitro, kept it from november until feb. and who was injured to start that feud? if i recall, he earned the shot by beating orton, kane didnt win the title because of his feud with umaga. no one was injured. and he had a few backstage segments where he was talking about nitro and melina, so just because you hate hardy, dont come on here and bash him. this is where people are stating who they think should be the wwe champ, not to come on here and argue with you over something you're wrong about. MNM didnt even reunite until december, when the hardys issued a challenge for the ecw pay per view. tey reunited the hardys because of how popular they are with the fans.

the matches would HELP determine a #1 contender, not be for the #1 contender. and i seem to recall him winning more matches than losing them since he returned.
 
Whomever it is, lets hope it doesn't leave a blot on the history books and devalue the belt. You can see the entertainment team now coming up with a match that means hornswaggle wins the belt just to p**s off Vince, (and if I can think of it then trust me those that get paid will have). What I'm saying is history over entertainment and short lived storylines.
 
I don't think they have the flexibility to use the top belt for comedic purposes right now. With a full roster, they could use various feuds as underpinnings, but when they're stretched this thin (due to injuries, suspensions, lack of talent, AND 3 totally uneven brands) they need to use the status of champion as a means to a feud.

Creative has a big problem right now in that, well, they're idiots lol. The Hornswoggle angle has worked out rather nicely, surprisingly, but you can tell that they're scratching their heads and banking on luck nearly every week. Look at all the extra bs we've been given lately: Marella at the Movies, the Dating Game, the American Idol thing, a million backstage "I'm talking to Coach but nobody can hear me" segments, John Morrison trying his hardest to - but ultimately failing - sound tough on his rants, The Miz and Kelly/Balls in that terrible storyline, etc. Now apparently we're getting some musical performance? This filler stuff is getting ridiculous cause it isn't even GOOD filler, so if Creative is struggling that much as it is, putting the belt into a comedic situation is going to put an ulcer in all those stupid people lol.

The more I think about it, the more I'm certain we'll have one of the following matches:

1. Battle Royal with Orton as the winner
2. Battle Royal to determine who faces Orton later on in the evening, with Orton winning
3. Orton vs Kennedy, with Orton winning

And for the life of me, I don't understand why so many people keep thinking that Jericho, Edge, HBK, Lashley, RVD, Mysterio, JBL, so forth would be given the title when 5 of them aren't even active roster members right now, one isn't a wrestler anymore, and the other one has Vince saying he doesn't want to put a title on him anymore PLUS he's on a different brand. If you're going by that logic, you might as well say Bret Hart is going to win it lol.
 
Ohh yeah this is going to one hell of a PPV Cena out is a great thing for any WWE fan over 10 years old because the kiddies worship John Cena.

But on the issue I can see Ortan or kennedy winning the WWE title then maybe later when shawn returns Triple H and him will fued for number 1 contership and stop DX again. Or Jericho might win the title he might have a surprise visit in the no mercy match there are alot of things WWE can do.

I went on WWE.com's recent poll "who do you think will win the WWE title this sunday" and 47% voted for Val Venis somebody explain please
 
There are only 2 obvious answers to this question and they are HHH and Orton. Anybody else on or off of the active roster would be a complete shock. Whoever it is will have either be a face or tunr face, because if they are a heel who are they going to fight besides HHH every PPV until either Lashley, Jericho, or HBK come back. If it were my call, I would use this time as a chance to get rid of the WHC and ECW title and have 1 undisputed champion how rotates throughout all of the brands. Honestly, with the exception of Batista/Taker at WM23 and Morrison/Punk on ECW the night Punk won the title, all of the matches for these titles have been sucked or had some stupid gimmick stipulation.

With all that said and done, I see someone besides Orton or HHH leaving No Mercy as champ only to drop it to one of the either the next night on Raw or at Cyber Sunday.
 
I think they should do a Battle royal, except have a twist in there that the last 4 in the ring(say maybe Orton, Jeff, kennedy, a returning Jericho?) then have a elimination style fued with those four kinda like they did with the ECW challenger. Each week have some match and whoever gets pinned is eliminated. Then have a title match with the final two at the next PPV. If they went that route they could built Orton up as about to snap cuz hes been so cloe to the title now he has to work for it again. Plus will give them time to setup a proper fued for the belt once someone claims it.
 
Frankly I don't care who wins the title. But for the sake of arguement I hope its' not anyone who just came back from suspension. And
Even if Orton didn't get suspended he was listed as buying Steroids and has not passed a wellness test in the recent past.
 
i dont care who wins the title. i would personally like to see kennedy take it or even umaga. Not jeff hardy, or even orton for that matter. the company needs to move in a different direction, and giving orton the belt isint going to help
 
to at least keep the hardcore theme, since they "screwed" dreamer out of the ecw title shot, they should give him the title shot saying he is most qualified, but of course orton will have to win to eventually have a triple h feud.
 
I think it will be a Fatal 4-Way match. Orton V Triple H V Umaga V Misteeeeer.

I think Orton will win it and possibly fued with either HHH or Misteeeer. Or quite possibly both. 3 way fued.
 
it wouldn't surprise me if there was a match and it involved umaga and orton, having umaga win the belt, this way HHH can feud with him and win the belt back (can anyone say it would be a surprise) HHH gets his way in the end and vinve still gets to get his rocks off giving the belt to a superheavy. But then again he did just get back from suspension, but vince likes what he likes and he's been waiting to give umaga a huge push.. what better time then now. Have orton feud with y2j or hbk. good welcome back match material. Orton needs the time to prove he's not a risk anymore. Now i'm not saying that this is what i want to happen, but it's still a possible angle that could be worked. I mean c'mon all that build up for hornswoggle being the son?!?!?!?!?!?!?! this seems like a repeat of that disappointment.
 
I wouldn't mind somebody completely left wing win the belt. It would bring back the "anything can happen in the WWE" feeling. Just as long as they don't handle it like the WCW belt from David Arquette and then Vince Russo after. Put it on somebody who is actually on the roster and make Orton chase it for another month. It'll make him look better because then he won't look like a Cena replacement.
 

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