Who Sent The Text Message To Kevin Nash??

[Nuja]

Hi,

I would say its Johnny Ace because Cena punched him, and Punk kicked him. Maybe Johnny Ace is loyal to Mc Mahon and decided to put HHH in trouble with this by sending the text and saying its coming from HHH (to Kevin Nash).

Johnny may not like how things turned out since HHH is in charge, also HHH didnt care about him being hit by Cena/Punk, that could be a motivation to betray trip H.

 

[jobesukulele]

Nash thought HHH sent the text... If the text come from HHH's phone then it had to be someone who could access HHH's phone.

That being said, Vince, Del Rio or Johnny Ace wouldn't have access to his phone; Stephanie would.

I'm going to throw it out there that Stephanie is acting on behalf of Vince [back in her billion dollar princess gimmick], acting for him where he can't, and eventually this is going to boil down to an old fashioned ownership feud between HHH and VKM.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Triple H.

He's the best option by far because this will lead directly to a Punk vs HHH feud. There is no need to complicate something that could be a very huge feud.

Even the wording of the message is very suggestive.

"Big man, no matter what happens in the main event, stick the winner for me."

See, HHH did not want Punk to win but he did not want to get his hands dirty by screwing him either because he wants to appear as a just person. That is why he texts Nash so that he can do the job for him in case Punk wins. And who is saying that HHH did not know that the message was sent from his phone. HHH himself!

I don't think that the relevation is coming anytime soon though. I do think that in the coming weeks there will be a lot of speculation. Probably the names of Steph and Vince will pop up till we get to around Survivor Series when HHH will beat down Punk and reveal that it was him all along. Kind of like a "It's me, Austin" moment for the new generation.

 

[Workrate]

My guess is either Stephanie or Johnny Ace. I don't think they know yet for sure either way. I suspect, as they let this play out, they'll go with Stephanie, if only because Johnny Ace has no charisma at all. Either way, I think one is guilty, one is your decoy.

 

[UFOcalling]

It will be Hogan. They will bring back the nWo so Vince can poison the WWE from the inside like he tried to do back in 2002. Now they just need to get Scott "Alka" Hall back into shape besides round.

People think I'm crazy but Hogan is ready to leave TNA. Don't be surprised if he calls in a favor.

I think it will be a surprise. I think it's through Vince but will not be JL or Steph. It could be Foley. Whoever it is it will be a surprise.

Hogan would be an AWESOME surprise...but doesn't TNA have a 90-day no compete clause, like the WWE? If not, we'd still have to wait for Hogan's contract with TNA to expire at the very least. If they do have a no-compete clause, then Hogan would be unavailable for 90 days after his contract is up. Nice idea, I just think that it's a bit far-fetched (given where Hogan is, contractually). I'm not so sure that Vince would welcome Hogan back with "open arms" after what he tried in early 2010 (start a "new" Monday Night War), either. Stranger things have happened, though.

You're right, it wouldn't surprise me to see Hogan jump off the TNA bandwagon. It just seems unlikely to me. I think that we'd be more likely to see Nash join a "new" DX, rather than a resurgence of the nWo in WWE. I don't think you're crazy, either...Hogan just seems a little far-fetched to me.

I really like your idea of it being a "surprise", but I have a feeling that this will be like when Vince removed his cloak to reveal to Austin (or whoever it was, I think it was Austin) that he was the "power" behind the Ministry of Darkness (more than 10 years ago). It seems like this text-scandal could have a surprise ending, but in actuality it will probably be someone obvious who was behind the text (at least IMHO).

 

[Emacman1978]

Ok here is just a shot in the dark. It's obvious the Clique is making a return. You have HHH in charge. Now Kevin Nash is on air. We all know Sean Waltman is involved with WWE again so who sent the text? Got a feeling it may have been Shawn Michaels.... Any thoughts there?

 

[harrythem]

With WWE regularly not having an end game for storylines like this my view, at the moment, is that it's the same guy who drove the white hummer in WCW!!! (I'm sure Nash was involved in that storyline too).

If it's not him then can't see beyond Stephanie really. The fact she was on screen at SummerSlam after so long smells a bit fishy to me (kinda like Triple H's facial hair)

 

[Miz_Mark]

I don't think this would work, because Nash said the text message he received read "take out the winner of the match" (not verbatim, but that was the gist). For it to have been Cena who sent the text, Cena would have had to throw the match. It's not like we saw Cena send a text after he lost, either.

The only way this would work, is if Nash was lying tonight on Raw (which is totally possible). Cena turning heel would be great, but I don't think this scenario is very likely. If the WWE is going to turn Cena heel, now's not the best time (IMHO). I think that they should wait a while (if they're planning on turning Cena heel at all), at least until this text message "scandal" (LOL!) blows over.

With Cena's angry promo at the end of Raw, it seems likely that we'll see a feud between Cena & Del Rio. I think Punk will be busy with HHH for a while, possibly Johnny Ace & Steph as well. There probably will be a triple-threat match for the WWE Title at the next PPV (Alberto vs. Cena vs. Punk), and I think that Punk will lose (so he can be free to feud with HHH, Nash, Steph, you name it). I can see Cena winning the title back from Del Rio at the next PPV, then the two of them having a rematch at WWE's October PPV. I think Cena's rant on Alberto tonight was the start of a lengthy feud for these two. If the WWE is putting stock in Alberto Del Rio, then who better for him to feud with than John Cena (as a face)?

You're right though, Cena is getting more boos now (especially when he's in the ring with Punk). They might turn him heel before Wrestlemania, since (like you said) it's going to be in Rock's home town...and Cena will get booed -- whether he's supposed to be a face or not. I just don't feel that now is the right time for Cena to turn heel, and it would be a major stretch if Cena was the one who texted Nash. Especially when there are so many better options. Not a bad idea, though. Cena could still be in on all of this somehow. If Cena is/was somehow involved in this text-scandal (I really don't think he is, but stranger things have happened), I don't think we'll know about it for a while. There's just too much going on in the WWE to also turn Cena heel right now.

I actually think Cena could work. Think about it, if he orchestrated the attack, he would know that it's coming, so if he did win the match, he'd be ready for it, and could take out Nash because Nash would be expecting the element of surprise, thus making Super Cena look even more unstoppable, and if he happened to lose the match... Sure fire way to take out his opponent, and since he knew Del Rio wouldn't be able to resist, sure fire way to put the belt on a weaker champion so it'd be easier to take back. It would work. But it would mean a heel turn for Cena, and I doubt they're willing to pull the trigger. So they'll probably just have it be Johnny Ace or Steph and play like Trips didn't know, until finally revealing Trips was behind it the whole time.

 

[OutsidersEdge4]

For what it's worth, Scott Hall used to call Kevin Nash "big man" on air during WCW. I have no idea what kind of condition Hall is in, but he'd be interesting.

Another thing- remember, it's Nash's FRIEND. Jonny Ace is clearly not one of Nash's friends. I don't think Vince is either. Maybe Stephanie, but even that's a stretch.

 

[justinept]

Nash thought HHH sent the text... If the text come from HHH's phone then it had to be someone who could access HHH's phone.

That being said, Vince, Del Rio or Johnny Ace wouldn't have access to his phone; Stephanie would.

I'm going to throw it out there that Stephanie is acting on behalf of Vince [back in her billion dollar princess gimmick], acting for him where he can't, and eventually this is going to boil down to an old fashioned ownership feud between HHH and VKM.

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I think it's gonna end up being Steph or Laurenaitis acting on behalf of VKM --- but so ya know, there are android and iphone apps that let you "generate texts" from other people. For example, I can write a text message on my phone and make it show up as if it was sent by someone else.

Because of that, Nash could have planted a text from Triple H on his phone as a cover.

 

[RD_21]

Come on guys when you get a text message you know who send it. He said that HHH did yesterday so we know it's coming from HHH friend because Nash said that HHH and he need to get their stories together, so he must know that it was coming from Hunter's phone.

Now it doesn't mean it's Hunter because Steph or Ace could have sent it from HHH phone while he was preparing for the match.

 

[justinept]

seems obvious the way stephanie said to punk people always get what they deserve

Or she could just be offering her opinion that she thinks Punk got what he deserved. If the WZ story posted earlier this morning is accurate - that the WWE hasn't officially decided who sent the text - then you can't really use any clues from last night as evidence.

Let's just hope this angle doesn't turn into the Rikishi ran over Stone Cold storyline... Ugh.

 

[Sub-Xero]

For my money it had to be Johnny Ace. He's the only one out of the bunch that wouldn't immediately come out and crow about pulling the string on Punk. They haven't been putting him on TV for weeks now just for show, he's got to be interjected into some storyline, and this seems as likely as any.

 

[closet_fan]

My guess is either Stephanie or Johnny Ace. I don't think they know yet for sure either way. I suspect, as they let this play out, they'll go with Stephanie, if only because Johnny Ace has no charisma at all. Either way, I think one is guilty, one is your decoy.

Supposedly everything that happened last night was scripted up right before the show. Punk and Nash's back-and-forth conversation seems to have been ad-libbed more than actually scripted beforehand.

On that note, I doubt they know who it is. But I pray this isn't like the GM fiasco where they keep it going, and then they sweep it under the rug and hope no one notices.

 

[Enoch V2]

Nash's speech was confusing. I mean he didn't say it was Triple H, he just said "a friend". However it was said in the same context as when he was talking about him and H being friends for 20 years. So I wonder what this means?

 

[UFOcalling]

I actually think Cena could work. Think about it, if he orchestrated the attack, he would know that it's coming, so if he did win the match, he'd be ready for it, and could take out Nash because Nash would be expecting the element of surprise, thus making Super Cena look even more unstoppable, and if he happened to lose the match... Sure fire way to take out his opponent, and since he knew Del Rio wouldn't be able to resist, sure fire way to put the belt on a weaker champion so it'd be easier to take back. It would work. But it would mean a heel turn for Cena, and I doubt they're willing to pull the trigger. So they'll probably just have it be Johnny Ace or Steph and play like Trips didn't know, until finally revealing Trips was behind it the whole time.

Well said, I agree with you. I also think that a heel-turn for Cena could work, I'm just doubtful that the WWE should turn him heel right now (or any time in the immediate future). You nailed it, when you said that you "doubt they're willing to pull the trigger" on turning SuperCena into a heel (at least not before the next PPV, at the absolute earliest).

Since Cena has been getting more & more boos at WWE live events, it's possible that we see a Cena heel-turn without the WWE even wanting it to happen. You can't keep a guy "face" if more than 50% of the crowd is booing him, right? Did you see the TNA PPV where Mr. Anderson made his debut? He could have been a face for TNA upon his arrival to the company, but the fans started chanting "over-rated" at him during his first TNA match with Abyss. It was pretty much impossible for them to make him a face at that point, he needed to be a heel. The crowd could turn Cena heel all by themselves, is all I'm saying.

I think a Cena heel-turn is possible...especially before Wrestlemania in 2012 (for the reason I stated earlier - Cena vs. Rock in Miami). I just think that with this whole text scandal going on right now, that it will make the WWE storylines too convoluted.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the idea...if it makes sense, from a kayfabe POV. If Cena becomes HHH's "Corporate Champion", that would be sweet. Obviously something big would have to happen to turn Cena heel, and I think that if a scenario like this were to go down (Cena turning heel, joining a heel HHH & a new "Corporation" is born), then it would take some clever booking to make it happen. Either way, I don't think we'll see Cena turning heel until September (at the absolute earliest, if it happens at all).

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This next part doesn't have to do with Cena, I'm just so geeked about the possibility of a new "Corporation" with HHH (playing the Vince role), Nash (Hunter's right hand man in the ring), John Laurinaitis (HHH's right hand man backstage), and possibly X-Pac, Steph, HBK, or even Scott Hall. Man, that would be amazing.

Just imagine seeing all of them coming to the ring together, wearing expensive suits. Obviously HBK is a long shot, and Scott Hall is an even LONGER shot, but Stephanie & Johnny Ace would fit in nicely. It would be cool to see Cena turn heel and join them, I think Cena would get INSTANT heat if he was their "Corporate Champion". Just seeing Cena in an expensive suit would make the fans go NUTS with all the booing. They could even come to the ring with their theme music being the old DX theme (like I mentioned earlier). Man, a Kliq reunion like that would be great to see. The old school fans (including me, and many others) would be so happy to see a new "Corporation" with HHH as it's figure-head, with or without Cena. Just HHH & Nash being "on the same page" as "corporate heels" would be fucking amazing IMHO.

I just don't see Cena being the one behind this "text scandal". As someone pointed out earlier in this thread, it seemed to be worded in such a way that it sounded like it came from HHH. Something like "Big man, no matter what goes down I want you to stick the winner"...not exact, but close.

Sounds like it was either HHH, Steph or Laurinaitis. I bet it was either Steph or Johnny, but HHH knew about it. HHH will deny that he knew anything about it, and either Steph or Laurinaitis will take the initial heat. Later (at least a month or two from now) it will be revealed to us that HHH was in on the "text-scandal" the whole time. God, at least I hope that's how it goes down. I posted all of this in an earlier post in this thread, that's also extremely long-winded. Sorry I keep writing so many words per post! LOL!

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I wanted to add this really quickly as well: if the text came from Hunter's phone, then it would almost HAVE to be Stephanie or Laurinaitis who takes the initial heat (for sending the text to Nash at SummerSlam). Vince or Del Rio wouldn't have access to HHH's cell phone, but Stephanie or Laurinaitis would. Steph would have easier access, but Laurinaitis would be able to snatch Hunter's phone as well. Before someone denies this claim, all the WWE would have to say is that Hunter left his phone on his desk when he went to the bathroom or something...and Laurinaitis snuck in, grabbed Hunter's phone and wrote the text to Nash.

This simple explanation (stealing/using Hunter's phone) could have also been the work of Del Rio, or possibly Alberto's ring announcer (whose name escapes me at the moment). The WWE could easily say that one of them used Hunter's phone to text Nash.

The other possibility is that Nash acted alone. Nash (along with X-Pac & Scott Hall) did similar things in early 2010 with "The Band" in TNA. "The Band" beat up at least one or two guys they thought Hogan would want beaten up, and Hogan denied being behind it. "The Band" fizzled out in TNA before we got closure for this angle, so who knows where it could have been going? ...just sayin', Nash could be doing the same thing in the WWE (maybe both of these scenarios were his idea). Sounds pretty good to me, the more that I think about the similarities between what happened at SummerSlam, and TNA in early 2010. I bet both of these angles were Nash's idea/ideas (at least that would make sense, for Nash to have come up with the initial idea).

 

[The Idiot]

JOHNNY ACE! That's why they met tonight and John was so happy to see him tonight and they met privately. I wish it was Vince though, I would've loved to see Punk w/ HHH vs Del Rio w/ Vince vs Cena w/ Steph

God no..that's Wrestlemania 16 (2000) all over again.

They are building towards a Punk/HHH match...that's clear now. In the end it will be HHH behind the whole thing and Punk will beat his ass at Survivor Series.

 

[lawrencebry]

The most likely person it could be is Shawn Micheals. just to remind everyone he was a part of the kliq in the 90's with nash, hhh and others. this might be his way back into the WWE lime light

 

[TheSammichEater]

Stephanie. Who else has access to HHH's phone? CM Punk talked so much crap about her approaching the show and wouldn't shake her hand prior to the match. She's pissed about what he has done, knew Nash was there, and knew Nash would do anything for HHH.

Now, the only reason I doubt this is because of the text said something about how the winner didn't matter. So what if Cena won? Would there have been reasons for Stephanie to want to do that?

I doubt its Laurinitus, Vince or anyone else simply because, why would he have access to HHH's phone? Steph lives with him and can grabbed it while he's taking a piss or showering. She's the only one who makes since. That is unless they're already pushing one of their daughters

 

[MisterRob]

I think its logically Vince McMahon. Not directly, but with John Lauranitis, his crony, as his "inside" man guiding his plan for him. McMahon is the one with a beef with both Cena and Punk, so therefore would tell Nash to attack whoever the winner was. It could totally have been possible for Lauranitis to have snuck in and found Triple H's phone while he was away refereeing the main event, and therefore Triple H's phone was used but he actually wasn't the one who did it. Kevin Nash thought it was Triple H, too, so he was being played as well.

That's the most likely scenario, that makes sense, to me. But, I'm pretty sure Vince McMahon is done as an onscreen character.. and if this is in fact the case then I think Stephanie McMahon could easily take his place and be the one behind it all, out for revenge for her father, and using John Lauranitis as HER stooge. That way Lauranitis is in on it with Stephanie (becoming a stooge for another McMahon), and Stephanie could have EASILY gotten hold of Triple H's phone to impersonate him with a text.

Those are my picks and the obvious, and only real logical choices for this storyline to me.



With that said, WWE may go with some crazy swerve and pick someone else for the "surprise" factor.. and if they do, I hope its Triple H and he's proven to have been lying all this time. It would be fun to have a heel Triple H controlling the WWE and using Klique buddies to help him with his goals. I'm not sure how effective that would be long term, but it does have possibilities, fo sure.

An unlikely option is someone like the Rock. The Rock already has a clear feud with Cena, and he's even taken some jabs at CM Punk (and vice versa), and he could easily have an "old school" mentality like Kevin Nash did during his promo about the state of the current wrestling landscape compared to what it was when HE was the star and champion. It would also keep him in the mix and build towards his feud with Cena at WrestleMania.

People are saying Shawn Michaels, but I just don't see how they can explain what would have motivated Shawn Michaels? What sort of history or bad blood does he have for CM Punk that make the reasoning of that swerve be anything but disappointing or completely silly?

 

[LoudClearVoice]

Here's a total long shot but what about Batista?

He has mentioned that he wants to come back for "one more run" and that he'd come back when WWE started to get away from the PG rating, which it appears to be doing.

I know it's a total longshot, but they could, in some twisted WWE world, say that Batista is the one who sent the text, since he is friends with Triple H.

 

[UFOcalling]

With that said, WWE may go with some crazy swerve and pick someone else for the "surprise" factor.. and if they do, I hope its Triple H and he's proven to have been lying all this time. It would be fun to have a heel Triple H controlling the WWE and using Klique buddies to help him with his goals. I'm not sure how effective that would be long term, but it does have possibilities, fo sure.

An unlikely option is someone like the Rock. The Rock already has a clear feud with Cena, and he's even taken some jabs at CM Punk (and vice versa), and he could easily have an "old school" mentality like Kevin Nash did during his promo about the state of the current wrestling landscape compared to what it was when HE was the star and champion. It would also keep him in the mix and build towards his feud with Cena at WrestleMania.

Oooooh, you're right! The WWE could use The Rock in this scenario, to try and keep Cena face for their match at Wrestlemania in 2012! Rock was part of the original "Corporation", and I could see The Rock being a part of a new Corporation (if such a thing happens). Great call, you're the first person I've seen mention that The Rock could be involved in this somehow. I apologize if someone already said it, I haven't read every single post in this thread word-for-word (there's just far too many posts to do that, at least right this second).

I remember reading that the WWE was worried about Cena being booed in Miami (for Wrestlemania 2012). I also remember reading that they were thinking of scrapping the Cena/Rock match all together. If the WWE was able to get Rocky over as a heel, then they wouldn't have to worry (at least not as much) about SuperCena getting booed at the grandest stage of them all! For The Rock to really be involved here though, he would have had to get a hold of HHH's phone somehow. Was he backstage at SummerSlam (I know that he wasn't in "real life", I mean that they could say he was from a kayfabe POV).

The other thing that makes The Rock's involvement a little hard to swallow is that Rock & Nash didn't get along (at all) when Nash was last in the WWF (when Hogan, Hall & Nash came in as the nWo in...2002? ...I think it was '02). There was that hilarious backstage conversation they had, when Rock totally made fun of Nash's "Diesel" gimmick.

Like you said, The Rock's involvement in the "text scandal" is a bit of a long-shot...but they could really make it work, if that's the direction they decide to take it. Man, there are so many possibilities! The storyline(s) surrounding CM Punk over the last couple of months has been AMAZING for the WWE. No wonder Hunter "rehired" Punk, because it truly was "good for business"! LOL! ...just so nobody thinks that I believe wrestling is real or anything, I mean all of that from a kayfabe POV (in case I didn't make that obvious, haha).

Fantastic idea, I wish I had more green rep to give you for this post. I ran out of it, I gave out a lot of it today! LOL! Great post, really.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

Oooooh, you're right! The WWE could use The Rock in this scenario, to try and keep Cena face for their match at Wrestlemania in 2012! Rock was part of the original "Corporation", and I could see The Rock being a part of a new Corporation (if such a thing happens).

I remember reading that the WWE was worried about Cena being booed in Miami (for Wrestlemania 2012). I also remember reading that they were thinking of scrapping the match all together. If they turned Rocky heel, then they wouldn't have to worry (at least not as much) about SuperCena getting booed at the grandest stage of them all!

Like you said, The Rock's involvement in the "text scandal" is a bit of a long-shot...but they could really make it work, if that's the direction they decide to take it. Man, there are so many possibilities! The storyline(s) surrounding CM Punk over the last couple of months has been AMAZING for the WWE. No wonder Hunter "rehired" Punk, because it truly is "good for business"! LOL! ...just so nobody thinks that I believe wrestling is real or anything, I mean all of that from a kayfabe POV (in case you didn't pick that up).

Fantastic idea, I wish I had more green rep to give you for this post. I ran out of it, I gave out a lot of it today! LOL! Great post, really.

It's a good idea but it's not going to eliminate the absolute certainty of Cena getting booed.... Wrestlemania is in Miami, the Rock's hometown. No one other than a couple little Jimmys are going to cheer for Cena.

I don't think Rock is going heel because I believe he'll headline the Hall of Fame class and that would be kinda awkward if they just turned him heel and now he's headlining the Hall of Fame class.

 

[jholcomb22]

After reading most of the posts, I am surprised to see some of the theories. As much as I want it to be a major surprise, the only way it's going to make sense is if it's HHH, Steph, or Johnny Ace.

First thing that nobody is acknowledging is that for somebody to send the text to Nash means they would have known that he was there. We know he didn't post this on twitter or facebook because all these wrestling sites would have picked up on it. It's possible that HBK and Waltman knew but that would be a stretch as those two really have no motive.

I don't think any active wrestler would have known he was there, so that takes out the chance of Barrett or Cena. When I read the possibilities of Barrett, the first thought was, no, he took out Nash in the Rumble. I would think Nash doesn't like him. Cena wouldn't send a text like that. He would have sent a text that said, "if Punk wins, take him out." Lets try to think logically folks.

Nash said it came from a friend. Going out on a limb and assuming it's not Triple H, that still eliminates a lot of people. Batista, Rock, Jericho. Come on folks. I'm sure Jericho was standing in the studio or on stage, and was like, "Shit, I need to screw with that Summerslam match." I love when people throw names out there hoping they come back, no matter how stupid it really is.

If you read reports, you know WWE is planning on a HHH/Punk feud at Survivor Series. So Punk will probably fight Nash at NOC and we won't find out that HHH was behind the Summerslam hit until after that to build towards Survivor Series. Expect a sort of whodunit mystery to play out the next few weeks circling around HHH/Nash/Steph/John

 

[huegtoad]

the miz he isnt doing anything right now he is poised for huge run, angry at not really being used despite leading the promotional charge for the event, vince mcmahon's darling, likes to shake it up, student of the game. hates cena, probably hates punk.