Who can defeat Andre the Giant?

[Steamboat Ricky]

Because kayfabe voting doesn't give us an accurate reading of who were the "best." And it is extremely biased. Literally anyone could beat anyone looking from kayfabe. Bryan has beaten Cenza clean. I guess that makes him a better wrestler overall. Kane beat Taker 3 separate times on PPV with the world title on the line, thus we should all vote Kane over Taker in the WZT.

What makes anybody a better wrestler overall???? I guarantee that if Cena faced Bryan in the WZT that the vote would be a lot closer than "should" be considered. But isn't the true measure of a good wrestler his popularity/heat at any given point? Isn't that what sells? And isn't that the point of wrestling since it isn't a legitimate athletic contest?

Someone should have the opportunity to make cases for Kane over Taker if they want to. And you should have the opportunity to dispute it.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

Long term kayfabe booking does have a strong correlation with who the biggest stars of a time are. Last year, I don't think Daniel Bryan lost clean for at least the second half of the year, and he was voted Superstar of the year. Look at Cena's win percentages at PPVs. Other top guys' win percentages at PPVs against lesser guys. Kayfabe booking is used as REPRESENTATIVE of the big stars. Big stars are booked higher on the whole, very few long-term test subjects would curb this rule.

And either way, all the more reason to make a decision as informed as possible is to look at as many facets of a wrestler or match-up as possible before writing.

What am I doing, the tournament hasn't even started yet.

 

[nightmare]

= "I wanna vote Heath Slater here cos he said he likes nachos and I like nachos and I don't think Yokozuna liked nachos and also he looked silly"

Based on that logic, we have our tournament winner....

 

[Bernkastel]

What makes anybody a better wrestler overall???? I guarantee that if Cena faced Bryan in the WZT that the vote would be a lot closer than "should" be considered. But isn't the true measure of a good wrestler his popularity/heat at any given point? Isn't that what sells? And isn't that the point of wrestling since it isn't a legitimate athletic contest?

Someone should have the opportunity to make cases for Kane over Taker if they want to. And you should have the opportunity to dispute it.

Yes. And kayfabe isn't always a good measure of that because some people are treated better than others. See Kane vs Vader. More often than not it breaks down into a popularity contest anyways.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

Based on that logic, we have our tournament winner....

Now if we can just campaign to get him entered in the tournament.

 

[Dirk]

Based on that logic, we have our tournament winner....

 

[The Butcher]

If they're in then Mike Haggar gets in.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Yes. And kayfabe isn't always a good measure of that because some people are treated better than others. See Kane vs Vader. More often than not it breaks down into a popularity contest anyways.

Which is pretty much what I've been arguing the entire time. But...

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

And all this months before the actual WZT...



Oh fuck who is the fucking genius who gave History/Silverback a link to the WZT Archives!!!

 

[Dirk]

If they're in then Mike Haggar gets in.

If Mike Haggar gets in, he'll definitely have Sammy Hagar as his celebrity tag partner.

 

[Shocky]

#8 already? Let's go Sting!

 

[nightmare]

Now if we can just campaign to get him entered in the tournament.

If they're in then Mike Haggar gets in.

If we started a campaign headquarters now, then we could get them past the first round, if not even the second. Those 3 would be better choices than a few others who have gotten spots over the years. I am looking at you Ahmed Johnson, Marc Mero & The Berzerker.

 

[The Butcher]

My quarter's in.

 

[Dirk]

Each and every match, his last...

He'll go over... or die trying!

 

[Danger Burger]

I should watch The Wrestler...

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

 

[The Butcher]

Could just do a fictional wrestlers tournament right now. Marcho Madness.

 

[Dirk]

Hey FREAKshow! You're goin' NOWHERE!

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Rafi from The League would go far and probably infect everyone he was up against.

Spoiler

 

[Dirk]

Since we're going this route, Mr. Connors, long-lost cousin to Rick Steiner, will avenge his broken jaw, terminated employment and confiscated dog.

 

[The Butcher]

Can't have Haggar without Zangief.

 

[nightmare]

So... Haggar, Nacho, Zangief, Bonesaw, Randy 'The Ram', Mr. Connors, Rafi...

....anyone else worthy of such a monumental tournament?

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

The Gellers

 

[The Butcher]

 

[nightmare]

Well, now he just may be the odds on favorite right there. Thanks to our newest participant, the tournament is now sponsored by: