Which 1 will get the bigger crowd reaction: Taker's return or Sting's debut?

[FitFinlay4Life]

People seem to forget the kids in the arena HAVE NO CLUE WHO STING IS.

Sure the older guys would react, but the kids actually had an idea who Rock is, but have totally no idea who Sting is either.

And people are just NOW being fed up with Undertaker returns? Give me a break.

With the hype surrounding this RAW and the possibility of Sting turning up - do you really think there will be a single person in attendance who doesn't know who Sting is? Even if the majority of kids didn't know who he was, with the hype that has been going about, you can be sure everyone attending will now irrespective of age.

Sting's debut, 99.9% to Taker's return which would be 0.01%

mainly i think the only way Taker would outshine Sting is if Taker returns with a different look or an older gimmick (like the Ministry look). Sting would without a doubt be bigger, especially with the possibilities for Mania.

I've voted Sting as getting the louder pop but there is a simple standard for who will receive the loudest pop when two babyfaces collide. The one who comes out second, it's creative 101. Now, as the Undertaker is definitely going to be there, he'll be the first one out and the Icon will perform the interrupt. How 'Taker looks is irrespective - he could come out in the Dread Pirate Roberts' holocaust cloak fully ablaze and the noise level would still be increased when Stinger comes out.

I think Sting ruined any chance of being a "big deal" if he came to WWE. Why you ask? He was with TNA. That's why. If he came to WWE he would seem weaker in my opinion because he has been in TNA which is definetely where the washed up go to die.

JEFF HARDY, Christian, 'Big Daddy Cool' Diesel and Booker T's pops say your wrong. As an asides, if you truly believe TNA is washed up utopia, why have you kept your handle?

STING isnt coming!! get that out of your minds right now! delete me i dont care.. you're all just a bunch of nerds who sit around all day with no lives.. WRESTLING IS FAKE!!!!

Wow, must be great living in your enlightened world! Your life must excel that you can take time out of your hectic schedule to tell us no-lives that this will not happen and the forum you've chosen to peruse is on a fake sport.

There is no reason why Sting will not show on RAW. Why is 'Taker not returning to Smackdown were the two guys he has issues with (Kane & Barrett) are? Who is he coming to feud with? An established RAW headliner - why would this not wait til he settled business? A returning Triple H - Hunter has his own sledge hammer to bury before he goes after the Dead Man. Y2J 3rd coming - more feasible but again were's the incentive? The Rock - Mr Johnston has set his stall out what superstars he has a potential eye on (as an asides, he's bound to be guess ref/ enforcer at the Cena/ Miz WM headliner). If you remove all the possibilities, what is left (no matter how improbable) becomes the most likely - in this case, if it's not Sting - the E is in definite massive disappointment territory.

Okay, I've read up to date and, to be honest, can't be bothered quoting anymore. To anyone trashing TNA - this isn't about Dixie's company, it's about a man who was beating Hulk Hogan in PWI's popularity votes DURING Hulkamania. To anyone trashing the members of WZ - nobody here is forcing you to join our community, take your smark comments outside. I love the way you love to underestimate the casual WWe fan, Sting isn't a hyped Indie wrestler ala Daniel Bryan or CM Punk (who coincidently got massive pops from the moments they debuted) - Sting has feuded with legends and HoFers in a company that almost bankrupted the then WWF, to claim casual fans don't know or care for him is to spit in each and everyone of their faces!

 

[GameOver]

Taker returning is the same very year, you know it's gonna happen coming up to WrestleMania so it's just another thing. Sting joining would be alot more unexpected.

as much as i don't care for Sting
Taker is head and shoulders above anything Sting has ever accomplished

Sting would get the pop

 

[CarlSinclair]

Sting

But he is not coming in and never was. Those promos were always Taker and Vince lapped it up when the IWC assumed it to be Sting.

I would love to have Sting in WWE but its not him and the most latest video quite clearly showed shots of Taker in mirrors etc.

And before someone says there was two different promos.... I saw that video its total baloni

 

[iwinulose]

takers return, people will go bananas, stings debut, lots of peoples throats will be sore after all the cheering and chanting for sting. both come, the roof will be blown off the building, just taker, most people will be satisfied and people will go bananas. i hope sting debuts and taker returns and that the 2 start going at it in the middle of the ring and just watch the fans scream "lets go taker" "lets go sting". however, if only taker returns and no one else comes with, well, its all g, i know that personally myself, and numerous other people would be ok with just taker returnung.

 

[crippler]

It would be Sting even though he isn't comming to WWE. Undertakers return has been so often people are bored of it. The whole deadman gimmick has gotten boring itself.

 

[Midgetmania619]

I'm a huge Undertaker mark but there's a sense of stupidity for some to actually consider Undertaker's return being bigger.
1) He's returned, like, 10 times.
2) He'll still have the same gimmick.
3) He always get's a huge pop anyway.

Sting's would be more like Diesel's at RR in the way that some mightn't recognise his gimmick, but he would get a much bigger cheer when he actually goes out to the WWE arena. If most people did recognise his music, which I doubt, it would be like The Rock where a huge roar would cover his theme song.

 

[classicviolence]

FiTFinaly4Life is 100% correct.

On topic, Sting's pop would be as insane as Hogan's post WMX8 pops. Fans would just cheer for him for at least 10 minutes. Man, this has to happen.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

Sting

But he is not coming in and never was. Those promos were always Taker and Vince lapped it up when the IWC assumed it to be Sting.

I would love to have Sting in WWE but its not him and the most latest video quite clearly showed shots of Taker in mirrors etc.

And before someone says there was two different promos.... I saw that video its total baloni

Hey Carl, just a counterpoint. I've seen the same promo and you are exactly right, it is the 'Taker.

However... Vince hates his surprises to be ruined - just look at the Jeff Hardy attacks. It was ALWAYS planned to be a returning Christian, but because the world knew this he swerved us and made Matt Hardy the assailant.

Fast forward to now, a vignette appears on RAW about someone coming on 21/2/2011. This mysterious man dresses in black and wears a long trench coat. Now the Phenom wears a long trench coat so of course he is a strong candidate, but there is one alternative - a certain Icon. Vince is not a stupid man, I'm sure he realised that people might speculate that it's option 2. Adding fuel to this fire, two of Sting's ex stable mates have already made their return at the Royal Rumble. Now simply because there has been no confirmation and a future promo shows the Undertaker, people are assuming that it CAN'T be Sting.

TNA hasn't come out and leaked that he has signed for WWe. Okay, I'll make a stretch here - the better WWe does, the greater the potential for TNA to do well. iMPACT doesn't go up against RAW or Smackdown, so if Sting brings viewers to RAW then it isn't that much of a stretch to believe that some of these new viewers might check out iMPACT too.

I am not saying that Steve Borden is WWe bound but what I will say is that it is far from the realms of possibility. One thing I will say, if Sting isn't coming, it sure won't be for a lack of effort on Mr McMahon's part.

 

[ITALIAN NYC]

Am i the only one who doesnt believe Sting would be a huge ovation. As others have said in the thread, alot of people dont know who sting really is besides the fans from the monday night wars days and the years before. The little kids and women know who the rock is from his movies ( aka gameplan tooth ferry for the kids ) , but Sting?, i just dont know. This also might sound weird but Sting would probably come out to music that nobody has ever heard , or remembers for that matter. And like it or not, entrance themes really do have an affect on crowd reactions. Imagine HHH coming out with his old school hunter hearst helmsley music for his return? Wouldnt be the same

I personally think its a gamble because yes die hard old school fans will love sting, but im pretty sure 90 percent of the people there will be marking out over the undertaker more.

 

[TheKliq4Life]

I will be there at Fresno's Save Mart Center and will personally MARK OUT for Sting IF he debuts! Being a Monday Night War's fan (and being a fan through such an incredible and significant time during Pro Wrestling's most intrigued era), I don't understand why anyone who has been a wrestling fan during that time wouldn't mark out for such a debut! Since Vince McMahon bought WCW in 2001, I always dreamed of Sting wrestling those established stars in WWF/WWE at that time. Never say never in the wrestling biz!

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

This also might sound weird but Sting would probably come out to music that nobody has ever heard , or remembers for that matter.

This happened to Jericho when he debuted in 99, we didn't know the entrance music, but how did we eventually find out it was him?The name JERICHO came up on the big titantron and thats when the crowd started going crazy! Maybe if Sting is to come out to his old theme, but then his facepaint appears on the big screen? or his name? Then he will get the crowd going crazy..

And like it or not, entrance themes really do have an affect on crowd reactions.

You are 100% right!

Imagine HHH coming out with his old school hunter hearst helmsley music for his return? Wouldnt be the same

Hmm.. True, but it was his old 'My Time' music, I would go crazy!

 

[Dark Horse]

I wanted to say right off hand; Great Thread Idea, this one got me right away.

On the topic at hand, I think the poll results and posts show that the obviously bigger pop is going to be for Sting. It' been duly noted that Undertaker has returned a million times and with each one it's less and less captivating. This is all considering Sting actually debuts with the WWE. I'm also not so sure that so many of the kids won't know who he is. I have a 5yr old and he sure as hell knows who Sting is from TNA. I'm sure plenty of other kids do as well, especially if they have crazy wrestling fans for parents like myself and all of you. My kid thinks Sting is awesome, he likes the face paint, go figure. If he saw Sting show up against The Undertaker I'm pretty positive he'd freak out, me along with him. It's such a momentous occasion I would figure that no matter what, unless The Undertaker returned in the old gray and black or purple and black, Sting's debut blows the Undertakers return out of the water.

 

[The Ace of Knaves]

I wanted to say right off hand; Great Thread Idea, this one got me right away.

Many, many thanks!

On the topic at hand, I think the poll results and posts show that the obviously bigger pop is going to be for Sting. It' been duly noted that Undertaker has returned a million times and with each one it's less and less captivating. This is all considering Sting actually debuts with the WWE. I'm also not so sure that so many of the kids won't know who he is. I have a 5yr old and he sure as hell knows who Sting is from TNA. I'm sure plenty of other kids do as well, especially if they have crazy wrestling fans for parents like myself and all of you. My kid thinks Sting is awesome, he likes the face paint, go figure. If he saw Sting show up against The Undertaker I'm pretty positive he'd freak out, me along with him. It's such a momentous occasion I would figure that no matter what, unless The Undertaker returned in the old gray and black or purple and black, Sting's debut blows the Undertakers return out of the water.

I'm a huge Undertaker mark, but if I can get to see Sting confronting Taker at RAW leading to a match at Wrestlemania 27, I don't mind seeing Taker got out-cheered!!

 

[WorldHeavyweightChampion]

The biggest pops in wrestling I have EVER seen were:

(1) Sting winning the World Heavyweight Title from Ric Flair at 'The Great American Bash' 1990

(2) ANY appearance by Sting from September 1996 to December 1997 on WCW Monday Nitro against the nWo

(3) Sting winning the World Heavyweight Title from Hulk Hogan at Starcade 1997

and (4) Goldberg (U.S. Heavyweight Champion) winning the World Heavyweight Title from Hulk Hogan on July 7, 1998 in (of all places) The Georgia Dome on Nitro


But Sting showing up on RAW has the chance to top even these 'pops'. Sting, within wrestling itself, is the most popular wrestler - EVER (he won PWI Most Popular Wrestler of the Year many more times than Hogan did, with some 1st runner-ups in there, too). Hogan may have been more mainstream to non-wrestling fans, but inside wrestling Sting is THE MAN. He worked for UWF, NWA (JCP), and NWA/WCW (and later WWA and TNA). But for over 20+ years Vince McMahon has tried to sign Sting - HE'S BEEN TRYING FOR OVER 20 YEARS - to no avail. Sting was HUGE in the NWA and was not only the franchise of WCW, he WAS/IS WCW. (Note: even on the last Nitro Sting still was not working for WWF as his contract was with AOL/Time Warner.... AOL signed his paychecks, not WWF or WCW)

I will be watching tonight, for sure, and will buy Wrestlemania if Sting shows up. There's a reason Vince has chased Sting for over 20 years. He's that important! Sting showing up in WWE will be bigger than Michael Jordan going to the Lakers, or Magic Johnson going to the Bulls (if either of those had happened). As much as I'd like Sting to retire having never worked for Vince, TNA sucks, and I'm not ready to see Sting retire.

Watch the rafters - the roof may just be blown off the building tonight. WE WANT STING! WE WANT STING!

 

[It's Showtime Folks]

I am still in two minds whether I want to see Sting arrive on RAW. Sting is my favourite wrestler of all time, and while part of me does want to see him retire in the WWE, the other part will respect his legacy that he leaves more so if he is the biggest superstar to never step foot in a WWE ring.

Sting will get a much bigger pop than a returning Undertaker, hopefully as big as the reaction he recieved when he descended from the rafters at the conclusion of Uncensored 97'.... that would be INTENSE!

Personally, if he does make his WWE debut, I want to see him end the streak at 'Mania. At least that way Vince trying to sign him for 20 odd years all accounts to something to let him hang up the boots with. It would be a perfect send-off for one of the most popular sports-entertainers of all time.

 

[Destiny Rose]

Personaly I would much rather see sting, but to a lot of kids the undertakers is their hero and since a lot of the wwe universe are kids the undertaker might be more exciting to them

 

[steve44thegame]

Sting - hands down - would get the bigger crowd reaction. No disrespect to the Undertaker. He is a legend and a well respected wrestler behind the scenes. However, to have the one guy who was the franchise of WCW finally appear in the WWE, would be epic. It would be pretty cool to have the Undertaker come out, cut a promo, the lights go out and when they come back up, 'Taker and Sting are face to face with each other in a stare down. Or, better yet, Vince comes out and runs his mouth about how he put WCW out of business, then Sting repels from above, sneaks up behind Vince and Scorpion Death Drops him. If the latter happened at RAW, it could set up a match between the two at 'Mania. If the latter happened at 'Mania, the roof would blow off the Georgia Dome. While I know it's the Undertaker returning, it would be awesome to have Sting come to the WWE. However, I'm not holding my breath. I would mark out big time if Sting does show up. Just my opinion.

defenily agree with you, i love Taker as well as the next guy, but Sting would be awesome. I think alot of people forget why we are wrestling fans, it's because of stuff like this. "The what if's the who could it be's"? It what make wrestling great. Hell it could be anyone. It may be Sting, which would be the best kept secert debut in WWE history, It could be Taker, It may be The game Triple H, maybe trips and taker in the same night. what everyone needs to realize is that it won't "ruin" anything if it's taker and not Sting. The only thing that matters is that unfounately no matter who it is Michael Cole will "ruin" it because he is horrible ecspecally as a heel. We need JR for this one tonight, Now if you agree give a hell yeah

 

[itssoeasy123]

Bigger crowd reaction, I;l say Undertaker. For the little know fact that half the crowd has no clue who he is is their not in a smarky city.

Seriously, It's like DDP returning, or hell, Road Doog returning. Who the hell is gonna know who these people are from 1998. Because WWE has never mentioned Sting on air. Half the fan's will have no clue who he is.

Sure, I'll mark out to see Sting, but his debut won't be as big for Undertaker return's reaction.

 

[xGotTheEdgex]

IF...Sting does debut tonight in addition to Undertaker's return, then Sting will obviously get the bigger reaction. Sure the majority of the kids wont know who Sting is, but some will. There are some kids out there that watch TNA, have bought WWE DVDs that have have had Sting matches in them, and watch YouTube videos. However, the reason why Sting would get the bigger reaction, is because of the older fans. They are in California tonight, Sting's home state. The majority of the older fans will remember Sting from WCW and will pop big time for him. Just like the reactions that The Rock and Diesel got.

I do hope Sting's signing has been kept a secret and all this "HHH vs Undertaker @ 'Mania" and "Sting has had no contact with WWE" non-sense was all just to throw the internet off the trail. However, since I haven't gotten my hopes up to high, I'm going into Raw tonight with no expectations other then The Deadman making his 100th return.

 

[thegreekhero]

If, on Tuesday, you asked somebody "Did you see Undertakers return?" They'd probably answer with, "Which one?" But if you asked them "Did you see Stings debut?" You'd get a different reaction. How many times does Undertaker have to "come back from the dead"? Its getting so old. Sting debuting to the WWE is big. Despite the kids who boo The Rock because he mocked Cena, Sting will get a bigger crowd reaction then the Undertaker, hands down.

 

[StylezClash3:16]

That's kind of tough considering not many people probably remember Sting. But I can guarantee you the IWC will forget that John Cena won the Elimination Chamber and will be singing the praises of Vince Mcmahon.

 

[emanc93]

Sting hasn't been relevant for 12+ years. And with a new generation of WWE fans, he would get a very mild reaction. IWC is taking a 1st person perspective rather than a 3rd person view.

Taker is still the top 1 or 2 face in the company.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

Sting hasn't been relevant for 12+ years. And with a new generation of WWE fans, he would get a very mild reaction. IWC is taking a 1st person perspective rather than a 3rd person view.

Taker is still the top 1 or 2 face in the company.

Again, this is very disrespectful to the casual viewer and almost seems to imply that the IWC is some omnipotent force that knows who people will or won't remember and who will cause them to raise the roof. I watched RAW last night and the crowd seemed muted about Taker's appearance, almost as if they knew that this was only part one of a two parter. This was further high lighted by the greater reaction garnered by Trips. Now Mr Levesque got a great reaction but it still wasn't on the level of the Rock's the previous week - it was almost as if they (the crowd) had been expecting someone else and Hunter was an almost adequate replacement.

 

[AK2V8]

Sting would get the better smark reaction as most of WWE's younger fanbase (including teenage girls) dont watch TNA and wouldnt have a clue who Sting is. In terms of a louder reaction Sting would win, but in terms of a wider crowd reaction Undertaker would win as he has more marketability and recognition throughout a wider fan base. Stings crowd reaction would be very low pitched and loud in a good way.