But that was a costly mistake... They had a chance to knock us out a little bit...
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But that was a costly mistake... They had a chance to knock us out a little bit...
And they lost because of his earlier HUGE mistakes. Just because he leads them back doesn't mean you can discount what happened earlier. It's like shooting someone and bringing them back to life with CPR only to have them die anyways from the gun shot wounds.
He has won a Super Bowl. Gone to multiple title games, and has the record for passing yards in the playoffs
No, like I said, every fucking analyst in the world agrees that AP fumbled the ball, including Aikman.
That was just lame. Try harder.
Wait, let me see if I have this right.
You don't understand what I'm saying, so I'm the uneducated one? How stupid are you? That doesn't even make sense. But here, I'll explain it for you, in smaller words so you may understand it.
In the OT (that stands for over time), Brees threw a ball which went way over the receiver's head. There was a small amount of contact by the defender, and a lot of people have thought the ball was uncatchable (meaning that the receiver couldn't catch it). So, by rule, it should not be pass interference. It was called a Pass Interference though.
Are you telling me the defense couldn't have stopped the Saints in OT, including not getting a Pass Interference call?
You're an idiot. Just like the Vikings had chances after AP's fumble in the red zone, they had the chance to stop the Saint. They didn't though.
Uhh, yes it is. If you're going to try and say that AP's (and especially Rice's) fumble didn't hurt the Vikings because the Vikings still had a chance to win the game after it, and then try to say that Favre's INT was the thing that cost the Vikings the game, then you're even stupider than Big Sexy gave you credit for.
It is the same thing.
Yeah, you know better about the QB to RB handoff than Troy Aikman, a Hall of Fame QB who handed off to a Hall of Fame RB.
Dumbass.
No thanks, your "education" would wind up costing me several points in my intelligence quotient score.
Which is why the Jets improved by 5 games last year from 07, and the Vikings went from being ousted in the first round of the playoffs to almost going to the Super Bowl, right?
Dumb ass. Idiots like you make real football fans look bad.
No, if Longwell MAKE the field goal, the Vikings are in the Super Bowl.
But which would you rather have...a 37 yard FG attempt or a 55?
I rest my case.
He got nervous? Bullshit. If he got nervous, he would have ran and slid. If he had been nervous, he wouldn't have been able to look across his body and make that throw, he would have looked straight ahead and ran.
He didn't fumble, but good try.
And, like I said, get back to me when you have an answer for AP's fumble which cost them 7, and Rice's fumble which gave the Saints 7.
Better yet, get back to me when you have a clue on how football actually works.
Just remember it's okay for Warner to turn the ball over in a costly situation when the Cards had a chance to go up 14-10 in the SB. But it wasn't okay for Favre to have a turnover or two.
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure had Favre gotten the ball in OT he would have led the Vikings to victory. Yet, I bet you would still be calling him a choke artist just because of that one INT, huh?
Moreover, Favre did much better against the Saints than Warner did. When Favre got knocked on his ass, he got right back up, and continued to lead the Vikings down the field countless times. What did Warner do? Go to the back, comeback and do absolutely nothing. You know why? Because he isn't half as good or tough as Favre. Fact.
Coming from the person who thinks the only time in the game that matters is the last minute, I highly doubt you have the right to call anyone a moron.
Why even bother playing the other 59 minutes?
TwistofRKO
The Legend Killer himself
That's a horrible comparison.
It wipes the slate clean. He made the most of his opportunities. Even Favre did yesterday before the choke. The Vikings were tied, he fumbles.. the Vikings were down and he throws pick #1. The game ended up tied. If the Vikings win I would have given Favre credit.
So has Kurt Warner, who has gone to MORE title games, and has the record for passing yards in the Super Bowl.
That was easy.
Now back to Elway. You are essentially stating throughout this thread that it doesn't matter when events occur. Explain why his 98 yard drive in 37 seconds is heralded in history while Koy Detmer has done the same thing, thrown a TD pass.
Read up: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/437932/a_girls_guide_to_understanding_football.html
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
So because he proves you wrong he is a moron?, how the fuck does that make any sense at all?!?, face it dude YOU'RE FUCKING WRONGYou made a pretty good point there Sly. All right, perhaps he didn't "choke" but his mistake sure as fuck didn't help them. Like I said, Favre did not lose them that game alone, but they had a real shot to win right infront of them and Favre did blow that chance. Obviously a shitload of things go into the outcome of a game, but that was the death blow in that game.
Well, personally I think the death blow was the FG the Saints kicked in OT, but this is probably the closest we'll get to agreeing.
For some reason I laughed hard, at that post.
Pepe Silvia
Occasional Pre-Show
12 men.
FromTheSouth
You don't want it with me.
Eh I was well beyond trashed at the bar last night when I was watching that game though, so I guess my analysis isn't exactly ESPN-quality.
Still, Favre showed what has held him back his whole career again, and that's the costly interceptions in big time situations.
Still, Favre showed what has held him back his whole career again, and that's the costly interceptions in big time situations.
TwistofRKO
The Legend Killer himself
Cite it.
Also cite other instances of botched handoffs by other QBs and see who received the blame.
You had mindless babble at the end of the sentence, which served no purpose. An educated person would have picked up on this.
Thanks. Irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Pretty good to hold the league's best offense to a FG, considering it doesn't matter when these events transpire.
Actually, the Vikings defense played very well after those turnovers. They never trailed by more than 7 in spite of those turnovers.
In the end, the Vikings had a chance to win, in spite of even Favre's earlier INT, which you seem to have forgotten about.
Hypocrite.
You are saying Aikman is incorrect in his assertion that Favre cost the Vikings the game, as you are also claiming superiority in football knowledge to Trent Dilfer, Tom Jackson, and Terry Bradshaw, among others. Surely the jury would believe a gym teacher rather than a slew of Super Bowl winning QBs.
Dropping from 65 to 60 still renders you feeble-minded.
Right. That's why the Jets regressed by two games from 2006 (you know, that season where a 2nd round rookie QB WASNT the starter).
There should be an "s" after "MAKE".
We'll never know if he would have made it because Favre took away the chance.
"But he has so much fun playing the game!".
My bad.
37 yard FG was never an option you idiot.
Nah, he's done it before. It's a pattern. You are describing what a clutch QB would have done. A clutch QB wouldn't have made that pass, nor the pass in the 2007 NFC CG, nor the pass in the 2004 WC game, nor the pass in the 2003 DIV playoff game, nor the 6 picks in the 2001 DIV playoff game.
Intelligent people notice patterns.
HE FUMBLED. IT'S A FACT.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gamecenter/live/NFL_20100124_MIN@NO
I will , when you explain Favre's first INT. Don't try with the ankle thing either, happened AFTER he threw the ball.
Aww, you feel insecure. Go get your bottle and have mommy change your diaper.
No that is wrong for reasons. 1. Elway didn't make huge mistakes earlier in the game. 2. Elway won
TwistofRKO
The Legend Killer himself
If Favre rebounds and leads a Vikings victory I would credit him.
What the heck are you talking about? How did Warner "go to the back"? He took charge of a team in the Super Bowl, down 14 with 6 minutes to go and tied the game up.
That was the single worst paragraph in the entire thread. I would expect better from you.
Because you have to play all 60. Take Favre and his 59 minutes of fame, I'll take Elway and Montana, with their multiple Super Bowls.
You are an ignorant ****. You are stuck on repeat. Want to actual explain how "I'm wrong"? You ran like a pussy from the other thread. Grow a sack, scrub.
FACT: Elway threw an INT.
FACT: Kurt Warner won vs TB, which you tried to discredit him for.
Pathetic try.
TwistofRKO
The Legend Killer himself
http://www.steelertribute.com/countdown36.htm
I'm off for the night. Why don't ye Lord Favre's semen read up and get back to me soon.
I'm off for the night. Why don't ye Lord Favre's semen read up and get back to me soon.
1. Big difference between a pick and a pick six
2. I'm not even talking about Tampa Bay right now, but that wasn't exactly an Elway-esque drive. There was still 5 minutes left after they scored.
TwistofRKO
The Legend Killer himself
FromTheSouth
You don't want it with me.
Damn, Twist.
I would openly agree with your main point if you weren't such a fucking idiot. You have no idea how to formulate an argument at all.
I would openly agree with your main point if you weren't such a fucking idiot. You have no idea how to formulate an argument at all.
I was talking about the Saints/Cardinals game from a couple of weeks ago. Duh.
It does if you are comparing a game winning drive to Elway's last minute game winning drive against Cleveland. You seem to call a lot of people stupid when you have the reading comprehension of a third grader with dyslexia.
lol, incomplete pass. Bullshit call, in a game full of bullshit biased calls for your Stealers.
