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Lol you guys would defend Favre if he threw 20 interceptions in a game and then murdered a bus full of children afterwards. You'd blame it on the bus.
 
Lol you guys would defend Favre if he threw 20 interceptions in a game and then murdered a bus full of children afterwards. You'd blame it on the bus.

I don't even like Favre. The Lions are 0-19 against him in road games. But there is no way Kurt Warner is better then him.
 
It's even sadder when you purposely don't include this part:
You mean the post you made approximately 2 hours after the post of mine you quoted in this thread?

Just quit. You're embarrassing yourself. The fact is, when I made my post in this thread, you said the loss was Favre's fault.

But you know, continue working on Favre's balls, I don't think you've properly sucked his right testicle yet.
Great comeback, where did you learn that, from one of my 7th grade students?

Lol you guys would defend Favre if he threw 20 interceptions in a game and then murdered a bus full of children afterwards. You'd blame it on the bus.
And people like you find every reason in the world to try and justify your obviously ignorant position that Brett Favre isn't one of the greatest of all time.

You ignore everything that happened right before and after, and put the blame for the loss squarely on Favre's shoulders, which is just absurd.
 
Big Sexy demeans Warner for throwing a pick six in the 2nd QTR of a game he led them back in, but defends Favre for choking away seasons.

Favre had great teams in 2003, 2007, and 2009, and choked it away each and every time.

I created a thread, predicted Favre choking in a close game, and now I need to get over it? If you think I'm going to take this as an insult you're delusional.
 
Favre had great teams in 2003, 2007, and 2009, and choked it away each and every time.
Please. If you want chokers, point the finger at Adrian Peterson and Percy Harvin.

Adrian Peterson cost them 7 after the Bush fumble, and Harvin's fumble set up the Saints touchdown that put them at 28. You're telling me an Interception on a play that started from the 38 yard line hurt them more than those two plays?

You're fucking nuts. Did it hurt their chances? Sure. But you're talking about a 55 yard field goal in a hostile environment. Even if Farve tucks the ball and runs he's only going to get to about the 35 yard line, making it a 52 yard field goal. To say that's a "for sure FG" is just ridiculous.

If you want chokers, talk to AP and Harvin.

EDIT: Here's a video highlight of the game. You can find the Favre interception at about 5:02.

 
I don't even like Favre. The Lions are 0-19 against him in road games. But there is no way Kurt Warner is better then him.

And notice I never once said Warner was better. Ever.

You mean the post you made approximately 2 hours after the post of mine you quoted in this thread?

Just quit. You're embarrassing yourself. The fact is, when I made my post in this thread, you said the loss was Favre's fault.

And I corrected myself. You chose to quote the earlier post, whatever.

Great comeback, where did you learn that, from one of my 7th grade students?

It's the fucking truth, you've started atleast twenty fucking Brett Favre threads over the past few months, you're constantly all over the man's dick, it's old news. You throw a fucking hissy fit anytime someone insults the man or dares to blame him for his mistakes. Nevermind you probably don't even think Favre makes mistakes.


And people like you find every reason in the world to try and justify your obviously ignorant position that Brett Favre isn't one of the greatest of all time.

Yeah, cause thats what I said right? Did I say Favre wasn't one of the greatest of all time? Nope. He sure as fuck is. He also is a huge choke artist and last night was his biggest choke of all. But keep blaming everyone else except for Favre.

You ignore everything that happened right before and after, and put the blame for the loss squarely on Favre's shoulders, which is just absurd.

And then I corrected myself in saying that it's his fault they didn't WIN the game, because he choked. Which he did. Big time. That's what it's called when someone has a huge pressure situation and then makes a big mistake.
 
Big Sexy demeans Warner for throwing a pick six in the 2nd QTR of a game he led them back in, but defends Favre for choking away seasons.

You are a fucking idiot. There is no difference between getting tds early and throwing bad picks late, and throwing bad picks early and getting tds late. There is more to a game then the last 2 minutes. It is completely fucking irrelevant as to when qbs throw bad picks. If they lead to a loss then you are partially at fault. Favre was partially at fault yesterday just like Wrner was partially at fault for his last 2 SB losses with the pick sixes he threw. Goddamn you are a ******ed motherfucker.
 
And I corrected myself. You chose to quote the earlier post, whatever.
I quoted the post I was referring to when I made my post in this thread.

It's the fucking truth, you've started atleast twenty fucking Brett Favre threads over the past few months,
Actually, not really. I started about 20 fucking anti-Packer threads. Favre just happens to be the reason I start those threads.

Yeah, cause thats what I said right? Did I say Favre wasn't one of the greatest of all time? Nope. He sure as fuck is. He also is a huge choke artist and last night was his biggest choke of all. But keep blaming everyone else except for Favre.
See my post right above for the answer to this ridiculousness.

And then I corrected myself in saying that it's his fault they didn't WIN the game, because he choked. Which he did. Big time. That's what it's called when someone has a huge pressure situation and then makes a big mistake.
Please. He was trying to force a pass to get his team into position to have a makeable chance at a field goal. If he doesn't complete that pass, then Longwell has a VERY difficult chance of making the FG, thanks to the bonehead 12 men in the huddle penalty. Do you really think a 55 yard FG, in the Saints stadium is a gimme?

Brett Favre didn't choke, he was trying to give his kicker the best chance possible. The greats don't play for ties, they play for the win. And him completing that pass would more than likely have gotten them a win, at least a better chance at it then a 50 yard FG.
 
Please. If you want chokers, point the finger at Adrian Peterson and Percy Harvin.

Adrian Peterson rebounded and was the key force on their prior TD drive.

Adrian Peterson cost them 7 after the Bush fumble, and Harvin's fumble set up the Saints touchdown that put them at 28. You're telling me an Interception on a play that started from the 38 yard line hurt them more than those two plays?

Considering after those plays the Vikings had a chance to win the game, yes it hurt them more than two fumbles earlier in the game, which was actually Favre's fumble. It's the QB's responsibility to make sure the RB has the ball.

Welcome to Football for Dummies 101.

You're fucking nuts. Did it hurt their chances? Sure. But you're talking about a 55 yard field goal in a hostile environment. Even if Farve tucks the ball and runs he's only going to get to about the 35 yard line, making it a 52 yard field goal. To say that's a "for sure FG" is just ridiculous.

All you ask for your QB to do is put you in position to win. If Favre does than and Longwell misses he did his job and Longwell didn't. Favre took away the opportunity.
If you want chokers, talk to AP and Harvin.

Hopefully because they can give me more insight on Favre.

EDIT: Here's a video highlight of the game. You can find the Favre interception at about 5:02.



Thanks for sharing, the feeling of being right and calling it in advance feels great.
 
You've heard it here everyone, it's not Favre's fault he threw an interception! Nope, not Favre's fault at all. Not like he was the one throwing the fucking ball into the middle of the field directly to the Saints defenders. Nope, not Favre's fault at all. Nothing is ever Brett Favre's fault, he is God. :rolleyes:
 
You are a fucking idiot. There is no difference between getting tds early and throwing bad picks late, and throwing bad picks early and getting tds late. There is more to a game then the last 2 minutes. It is completely fucking irrelevant as to when qbs throw bad picks. If they lead to a loss then you are partially at fault. Favre was partially at fault yesterday just like Wrner was partially at fault for his last 2 SB losses with the pick sixes he threw. Goddamn you are a ******ed motherfucker.

When Kurt Warner left the field in all 3 Super Bowls he left his team with a shot at victory. Brett Favre leaves the field after throwing INTs in the last game of every season because he can't handle the pressure.

You're a flaming moron if you don't see a difference in leading a TD drive under pressure and leading one in the 1st QTR. I guess Elway's 98 yard drive is immensely overrated because he threw an INT earlier.

It's not my job to educate you on elementary issues.
 
Adrian Peterson rebounded and was the key force on their prior TD drive.
So, it's okay when AP costs the team the 7 points that would have won them the game, but when Favre throws for over 300 fucking yards, the only thing we care about is the INT which prevented the attempt at a 55 yard FG?

Big Sexy was right. You are a ******ed motherfucker.

Considering after those plays the Vikings had a chance to win the game
They didn't have a chance to win the game in OT? The Defense couldn't have stopped someone? They couldn't have not gotten a pass interference call on what I thought was a poor call, but still was called?

How fucking stupid can you be? It is the same thing.

yes it hurt them more than two fumbles earlier in the game, which was actually Favre's fumble. It's the QB's responsibility to make sure the RB has the ball.
So, you know better than EVERY fucking football analyst in the country, almost all of whom have blamed Peterson for not getting his arms open to receive the ball, including Troy Aikman, a Hall of Fame QB?

Welcome to Football for Dummies 101.
Exactly.

All you ask for your QB to do is put you in position to win. If Favre does than and Longwell misses he did his job and Longwell didn't. Favre took away the opportunity.
Bullshit. You don't sign Brett Favre to let the kicker attempt a 55 yard FG. You sign Brett Favre to make plays and give you the best chance for winning.

Favre throwing the ball gave the Vikings the best chance for winning. The INT may have prevented the 55 yard FG, but if he completes it, then Longwell's percentages go way up.

Thanks for sharing, the feeling of being right and calling it in advance feels great.
Oh, you called that the Vikings would have 6 fumbles, losing three of them?
 
I want to sum up some shit. Brett Favre is not Jesus. He throws a lot of bad picks. Some of these are PARTIALLY responsible for his teams losses. Last night was definitely one that CONTRIBUTED to the loss. However, no logical argument can ever be made to say that Kurt Warner is a better overall quarterback then Brett Favre.
 
You've heard it here everyone, it's not Favre's fault he threw an interception! Nope, not Favre's fault at all. Not like he was the one throwing the fucking ball into the middle of the field directly to the Saints defenders. Nope, not Favre's fault at all. Nothing is ever Brett Favre's fault, he is God. :rolleyes:
Who the fuck said the INT wasn't his fault? Of course it was his fault, no one denied that.

But saying the LOSS was his fault, which you did, before supposedly correcting it two hours later, is completely wrong, which was the issue I took with your comments.

Is this what you do? Get your ass kicked in a debate, and then completely and intentionally misrepresent what the other person said, to help preserve your online ego?
 
Brett Favre didn't choke, he was trying to give his kicker the best chance possible. The greats don't play for ties, they play for the win. And him completing that pass would more than likely have gotten them a win, at least a better chance at it then a 50 yard FG.

Apparently you don't know the definition of a choke.

You see, when someone is given the chance to help their team in a situation like that, such as Favre being told to get them some yards with a short pass to help them get the field goal, and when they do not succeed in that endeavor and instead TURN THE BALL OVER to the other team, that's called a choke. I seriously have no idea how you could even argue this. High pressure situation and he throws an interception...yep, pretty sure that's called choking. Their loss was a team effort, but Favre choked.
 
When Kurt Warner left the field in all 3 Super Bowls he left his team with a shot at victory. Brett Favre leaves the field after throwing INTs in the last game of every season because he can't handle the pressure.

You're a flaming moron if you don't see a difference in leading a TD drive under pressure and leading one in the 1st QTR. I guess Elway's 98 yard drive is immensely overrated because he threw an INT earlier.

It's not my job to educate you on elementary issues.


I'm not talking about any interceptions I'm talking about pick sixes that lead directly to points for the other teams. And trust me, Favre has led more comebacks in his career then your dumb ass could count.
 
So, it's okay when AP costs the team the 7 points that would have won them the game, but when Favre throws for over 300 fucking yards, the only thing we care about is the INT which prevented the attempt at a 55 yard FG?

Which play was that?

For one, Brett Favre fumbled the ball.

Secondly, the Vikings struggled in the red zone all day so it's premature to assume a TD. Man, you're strugglng.

Big Sexy was right. You are a ******ed motherfucker.

Sorry you feel weak and intimidated.

They didn't have a chance to win the game in OT? The Defense couldn't have stopped someone? They couldn't have not gotten a pass interference call on what I thought was a poor call, but still was called?

What was all that nonsense at the end? I guess I should assume you as uneducated next time I encounter you.

How fucking stupid can you be? It is the same thing.

Really? Is it the same thing? The defense stonewalling the Saints all game after having short fields falls on their shoulders when they give up a FG?

According to your idiocy, allowing a FG in overtime is equal to allowing one in the 3rd QTR.

Moron.

So, you know better than EVERY fucking football analyst in the country, almost all of whom have blamed Peterson for not getting his arms open to receive the ball, including Troy Aikman, a Hall of Fame QB?

Every analyst said that, or just Troy Aikman? Troy Aikman makes an average of 12 blunders a game.


I'll school you for free.
Bullshit. You don't sign Brett Favre to let the kicker attempt a 55 yard FG. You sign Brett Favre to make plays and give you the best chance for winning.

Why would you sign him for that when he hasn't done so in 15 years?

Favre throwing the ball gave the Vikings the best chance for winning. The INT may have prevented the 55 yard FG, but if he completes it, then Longwell's percentages go way up.

Well, if Longwell kicks the field goal the Vikings are in the Super Bowl.

It's freaking stupid to insinuate that the throw was good because it increases the chances of the field goal. Of course a closer FG is easier to make, but you know as a QB your job on the play is to take care of the ball, Favre got nervous and choked again.

Oh, you called that the Vikings would have 6 fumbles, losing three of them?

I called Favre choking, throwing 2 picks and having 1 fumble, yes.
 
Apparently you don't know the definition of a choke.
I most certainly do. In fact, I bet I have a better understanding of it than you do, because I actually understand the things that go into WHY a player "chokes".

You see, when someone is given the chance to help their team in a situation like that, such as Favre being told to get them some yards with a short pass to help them get the field goal, and when they do not succeed in that endeavor and instead TURN THE BALL OVER to the other team, that's called a choke. I seriously have no idea how you could even argue this. High pressure situation and he throws an interception...yep, pretty sure that's called choking. Their loss was a team effort, but Favre choked.
And like I said, I know better than you do what a choke is.

A choke is not making a mistake. Michael Jordan missed game winning FG shots...did he choke too? Or did he just make a mistake?

When a player chokes, it's not because he makes a mistake, it's because his focus becomes so narrow that the only thing the player can concentrate on is a single point, usually a problem within himself.

That's not what happened here. If Favre "choked", then how did he make those two dead on passes earlier in the drive, the first on 3rd and 8, and the other the 20 yard pass to Rice on a most beautifully thrown ball? The fact is that he couldn't have. The pressure on Favre on the INT was no greater than the pressure on him earlier in the drive, and he made two passes to get the Vikings into score position.

Favre didn't choke, he just threw an errant pass in an attempt to give his kicker the best chance possible. Please understand what it actually means to choke before you come up with this bullshit.
 
I'm not talking about any interceptions I'm talking about pick sixes that lead directly to points for the other teams. And trust me, Favre has led more comebacks in his career then your dumb ass could count.

In the 2nd QTR. To the truth's recollection, Warner tied the game in SB 36, and took the lead in SB 43.

Comebacks from 15 years ago aren't helping anybody right now. I'm glad he leads his team to victory against the Broncos. Congratulations. What does he do in the playoffs?

Moron.
 
It was Warners fault the Birds lost SB 43. He threw a pass to James Harrison right before half time, which led to a pick six... Warners a choke artist.

WHats the difference between that and Favres pass?
 
It was Warners fault the Birds lost SB 43. He threw a pass to James Harrison right before half time, which led to a pick six... Warners a choke artist.

WHats the difference between that and Favres pass?

HE TOOK THE CARDINALS TO THE LEAD AFTER THAT. THE GAME WAS NOT ON THE LINE IN THE 2ND QUARTER

Simple enough?
 

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