Time to Turn Ziggler Face?

[Havik917]

So Dolph Ziggler has never garnered much of a crowd reaction as far as I can remember. He's also always been a heel. I for one like Ziggler, I think he's charasmatic, has a good look and is good in the ring. If he were to turn face, would that perhaps get him over with the fans finally? I think this could be much the same type of scenario as Truth turning heel, no one cared about him until he turned, then he started doing some of his best work.

Break Ziggler away from Vickie and turn him face. He could have good fueds with Truth, Del Rio and even The Miz.

 

[hello]

So Dolph Ziggler has never garnered much of a crowd reaction as far as I can remember. He's also always been a heel. I for one like Ziggler, I think he's charasmatic, has a good look and is good in the ring. If he were to turn face, would that perhaps get him over with the fans finally? I think this could be much the same type of scenario as Truth turning heel, no one cared about him until he turned, then he started doing some of his best work.

Break Ziggler away from Vickie and turn him face. He could have good fueds with Truth, Del Rio and even The Miz.

the bold type is why he wont work as a face right now. he needs to garner crowd reaction as a heel before people can care about him as a face... vickie is the only reason anyone knows who he is. without her, he'd be another generic looking guy with short hair and dark trunks

 

[Rckstrtmmy]

I'm pretty sure turning anybody on Vicki will get someone a significant face reaction to build off of. Have him break away from her gradually and have her pick up a new heel (Perhaps R-Truth or maybe even put her with Del Rio?) and have HER drop him. Then have him make his life's mission to piss off Vicki. He will get over fast. He's one of the best in the ring right now and the key to being a good face is selling your ass off. Nobody is better at selling than Ziggler.

 

[This Is My Name Thank You]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Dolph is probally my favorite wrestler in the biz right now. More then Orton too. Zig needs to be a heel for now to get a crowd reaction of his own. He is too generic which isn't a real bad thing do to he has potental to be a huge ME draw.

I think dolph jus either needs to lose the hole perfection gimmick, cus imo it isn't workin for him. Or he has to jus get more mic work done with out vickie talking so much.

This guy is a heel an could make a great heel if vince dont bury him, so no keep him heel PLEASE

also he should lose the zig zag, or just roll me up one lmao

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I'm pretty sure turning anybody on Vicki will get someone a significant face reaction to build off of. Have him break away from her gradually and have her pick up a new heel (Perhaps R-Truth or maybe even put her with Del Rio?) and have HER drop him. Then have him make his life's mission to piss off Vicki. He will get over fast. He's one of the best in the ring right now and the key to being a good face is selling your ass off. Nobody is better at selling than Ziggler.

I was thinking pretty much along these same lines. Vickie Guerrero is a walking, talking furnace. She generates an insane amount of heat, with Michael Cole being the only other heel in wrestling right now that can give her competition. If Ziggler was to turn on Vickie, he'd immediately garner a substantial face reaction that could be built on.

For me personally, I'd actually like to see her be dumped by Ziggler and have Vickie ally herself with a pretty over heel in order to get revenge on Ziggler. Anybody associated with Vickie would get heat from that alone and the fans would quickly rally behind Ziggler in the hopes of seeing him get the best of Vickie and her ally.

 

[boozinjedi]

How about using Ziggler to turn another wrestler face?

I can't remember who posted it,BUT someone suggested Dolph should call himself "The New Mr. Perfect",afterall what are the first 3 words of his theme music: I AM PERFECTION

This could be used to turn Mcgilicutty face...after sometime of using it,
using Curt's entrance..Mikey finally gets pissed off!! Nexus be damned this is his family's legacy!!
He could even bring Husky Harris with him,they both are 3rd generation wrestlers,could even be used to bring fresh faces into the Nexus.

Just throwing ideas out there.

 

[nxtgeneration]

i like your idea of him turning on his manager, but i think atm it would work SOOO much better for swagger. since ziggler and vickie moved to raw, they havent been getting half the heat they got on smackdown so i dont think it would work as well unless it happened on smackdown

 

[nerd4life]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Dolph is probally my favorite wrestler in the biz right now. More then Orton too. Zig needs to be a heel for now to get a crowd reaction of his own. He is too generic which isn't a real bad thing do to he has potental to be a huge ME draw.

I think dolph jus either needs to lose the hole perfection gimmick, cus imo it isn't workin for him. Or he has to jus get more mic work done with out vickie talking so much.

This guy is a heel an could make a great heel if vince dont bury him, so no keep him heel PLEASE

also he should lose the zig zag, or just roll me up one lmao

so he needs a new finisher and doesnt talk on the mic but hes your favorite in the entire wwe?

theres something wrong with you when dolph zigglers your favorite.


ANyways you can try to turn him face by having him dump vicky but hell just end up being another generic mid carder. He sucks get over it

 

[Nate DaMac]

I don't know. Maybe if he turned on Vickie he could get over, but it seems more likely that it would be a one night thing and the next time we see him, he'll get crickets again. Personally, I don't see him getting any higher up the card than he is now as a face, especially on Raw. As a heel he may have a chance to work with Cena in a main event level feud at some point this year, but I really think that's the most he could get. What would turning him face accomplish exactly? How would that elevate him at all?

Besides, they seem be trying to make him into a more serious character. The changing of the look is completely ridiculous and ******ed, but they seem to be making it to where he never smiles or anything. I do think getting rid of Vickie may be in the works but I don't think that necessarily means he'd be turning face.

I'm just rambling now. I'll stop.

 

[AngryCenaFan]

His new look sucks.
He looks like a generic jobber, whoever told him to cut his hair/dye it should be fired, he no longer stands out.

 

[Peep]

I agree that him being with Vickie gets him some natural heat - but that still doesn't mean he currently has a direction. That's the problem and that could potentially be solved by a face turn.

I mean, look at what he's done since coming to Raw. He had a mini-feud with John Morrison with the Snooki promotion, competed in the championship gauntlet and is now squashing guys like Santino Marella for no reason. This is the problem with not having any face characters (unless you count Santino) to compete with. He may be getting some heat just due to the "EXCUSE ME!" but his place is still in limbo. Either he turns face or he causes someone else to turn face just so he doesn't wrestler against jobbers week in and week out.

 

[w@TchUr6]

DOLPH WAS ONLY WATCHABLE WHEN HE HAD HIS OWN UNIQUE LOOK. NOW THAT THEY CHANGED HIM HE LOOKS LIKE EVERY OTHER JOKE THAT WILL BE CATCHIN JELLY FISH TO THE FACE ON THE BEACH THIS SUMMER -HAHA- AND KARMA NEEDS TO STEP IN AND EAT VICKIE AND COLE AND LET US GET ON WITH THE SHOW..IM TIRED OF PUTTING MY TV ON MUTE EVERY TIME THEY SPEAK...THANKS AGAIN VINCE ANOTHER WELL PLAYED STORYLINE

 

[mikeyado]

They had the perfect chance to turn him face with the whole Kaitlyn Thunderthighs thing a while ago. That just seemed to peter out as most storylines with an ounce of potential do these days. Having him turn on Vicki would definitely get him over as a face at first, but now Vicki isn't in her 'consultant' role, there is only so far they could go with it. She has no power to punish him for turning on her so they couldn't drag it out and really carry the face push on like they did when Edge was feuding with Vicki and Dolph.

IMO the best way to do it would be for him to go on a bit of a losing streak and then have Vicki tire of him and ally herself with a MONSTER heel for Dolph to feud with, like Mark Henry or ADR. The heat Vicki would continue to generate by doing that would then get Dolph over as a face almost by default.

 

[nish2231995]

you know what everyone seems to be missing out on? the fact that he is not in any sort of rivalry atm, right now, wwe has him beating santino marrella and evan bourne all just to elevate his character. WWE missing the point in which its not just beating down, showing of your moveset, working with a jobber in the ring, its all about elevating stars with rivalries. So with this is mind, when was dolph his best, when he was working with edge!! the guys where in a rivalry that was worth paying for.

alright for me, he needs to establish another rivarly, right now, i wouldn't mind a 2nd rey vs ziggler rivalry.
then work the hair, establish a new finisher if requried and haircut

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Eugh, to an extent this reminds me of when Morrison moved to RAW from SD a couple of years ago. On the blue show he was starting to build a lot of momentum for himself, even cutting promos too would you believe! Then he gets traded and his momentum evaporated and it took a few months to build him up again.

Initially, I didn't like Dolph, just couldn't see the appeal.

Slowly but surely he made more and more of an impression on me, and when he started feuding with Edge I thought, great, they've built this guy up for a while and are now starting to push him into the main event. Then that got ballsed up so badly with the minor title reign culminating in him getting moved to RAW.

So now he's on a show where he's behind a host of guys getting more time, instead of when he was on Smackdown nearly always near the top of the card, and the main feature that made him stand out is gone, and Vickie is in a less significant position.

At this point, it's hard to see his turning face regaining the momentum he built up on Smackdown. Mikeyado mentioned them having the perfect opportunity to do so on Smackdown with Kaitlyn, and the end result was so poor. There were a few times where they could have tested the waters to see what the crowd reaction would be if he were face, but instead he went backwards. Staying with Vickie didn't make him more of a heel, it just made him look pussy-whipped.

I feel bad for the guy, he has talent in the ring but the change in look hasn't helped, and now creative need to think of a good feud for him to become relevant again first before either keeping him heel or turning him face.

 

[crippler]

I like Dolph Ziggler myself and I agree breaking him from Vickie would be a good thing than more people would take him more seriously. However Ziggler is a good heel without Vickie could be one of the top Heels. His new attitude is great for being a Heel and I hope they push him soon but I think as long as he is with Vickie he won't be going far. Turning him Face would be a mistake and he would be burried on Raw. I don't think he would get the crowd reaction they would want for a face.

 

[t619]

I would book him to win Money in the bank. best choice imo and let him build over the next 6 months. At wrestlemania you have Rock Winning the WWE Championship off Cena. After The match Ziggler Cashes in the briefcase and Defeats the Rock for the WWE Title at Wrestlemania and in The Rock's Hometown. Imagine the heel heat.

 

[Post]

It is going to happen, and when it does he will turn on Vicki, cut a huge promo against her, and the fans will eat in up.

It won't really be that the fans love him so much, it will be that they hate Vicki.

This is a very common storyline in professional wrestling.

 

[The Future Rises]

For the people saying Dolph NEVER gets a crowd reaction, he got TONS of heat when he came out to confront Rey Mysterio during their feud, including huge "you suck" chants, and they cheered him against the likes of Rey and Morrison, there were more "lets go Ziggler" chants than "619", plus its funny the kids were chanting 619 and teena/adults were chanting lets go Ziggler, so that proves if put in the right feud and storylines, then he can shine and actually get more over with the crowd.

 

[AngryCenaFan]

One thing is very clear to me......Smackdown has much better writing, and vision, RAW they just throw crap together every week and see what sticks. it's funny how every person doing well great on smackdown comes to RAW and gets lost in the shuffle

 

[Weapon-X]

It sickens me how WWE is trashing the new talent. They have so many fresh faces they could push right now and yet they are going to let Cena hold the belt for an entire year!

Morrison should have got the belt long before his injury and what about Del Rio? Zigler is ruined- they had a good thing going with him now he looks like Orton minus the tats.

 

[krazyd]

I'm pretty sure turning anybody on Vicki will get someone a significant face reaction to build off of.

not entirely true...they tried it with one guy on smackdown i dont remember his name he was hispanic and he didnt last long...he got no reaction even with vickie so here is one person that u cant turn against her and have a significant reaction..just saying

btw i can see dolph becoming face and doing the whole hi im dolph ziggler (as like a sincere indtroduction) it could work esp if paired with a top face diva

 

[Reddog1146]

I have barely noticed Dolph Ziggler since he was drafted to Raw. I thought it would be a major push since he had got two consecutive wins over john morrison in his first couple of matches. After WM27, he just flatlined and dropped and not even Vivkie is getting him much of a reaction anymore. I think he may need to do something drastic like turning face against Vickie and masybe he could get a reaction.

 

[GW_Hart86]

I really like this guy, I think he is something special. To me, he is definately a modern day Mr.Perfect and has a bag of potential. A face turn at this moment in time would definately be a bad move for him, he is doing really well just now as a heel and an interesting partnership with Vickie Guerrero. I agree with the post that said you really need to establish yourself as a heel first before anyone gives a dam about you as a face.

He needs to stay a heel just now and work his way to the top which I'm convinced he will do as he is a great all-rounder. Then turn him face and turn on Vickie or whatever seems right at the time and then we will see a true star, I'm sure of it.

 

[LWC]

VERY much time to turn Ziggler face, with SO many heels on Raw (Alberto, Punk, Truth, etc...)