The Wrestlezone Tag Team Tournament

[Shocky]

Oh I'm not disagreeing, I enjoyed the Outlaws immensely in 98. Hands down they were my favorite WWF tag team of that year. Road Dogg knew how to work a microphone probably only behind Austin and the Rock during that time period. And Gunn had enough talent in the ring to keep them over as a unit.

However, Steve Austin was able to stay on top while the younger talent caught up to him on the main event status. The same can't be said about the Outlaws. Once 2000 roled around, and those 4 teams I mentioned showed up, the Outlaws became second fiddle immediatly to all of those teams. Austin is by far more talented then either of the Outlaws, and would later still prove his worth in the ring against technical wrestlers such as Benoit and Angle.

NAO had no longevity, if they did, it would probably be a different argument. Austin, yes, had weak competition in 98, but still managed to be a big drawl until he retired in 2003.

 

[Slyfox696]

Oh, get down off your high horse, coz the heights obviously draining your brain.

Justin Credible is a hell of a wrestler.

And you're saying I'M high and the heights must be draining my brain? Other than the fact that he wrestled in the great promotion of all time (sarcasm) what exactly makes Justin Credible worth a damn? Please inform me how the current Target employee was a great wrestler.

Oh I'm not disagreeing, I enjoyed the Outlaws immensely in 98. Hands down they were my favorite WWF tag team of that year. Road Dogg knew how to work a microphone probably only behind Austin and the Rock during that time period. And Gunn had enough talent in the ring to keep them over as a unit.

However, Steve Austin was able to stay on top while the younger talent caught up to him on the main event status. The same can't be said about the Outlaws. Once 2000 roled around, and those 4 teams I mentioned showed up, the Outlaws became second fiddle immediatly to all of those teams. Austin is by far more talented then either of the Outlaws, and would later still prove his worth in the ring against technical wrestlers such as Benoit and Angle.

NAO had no longevity, if they did, it would probably be a different argument. Austin, yes, had weak competition in 98, but still managed to be a big drawl until he retired in 2003.

Yes, but look who beat the NAO. The Mother F'n Guerreros! Good God, that's ridiculous. I mean, Chavo's uncle died and Chavo sucks so bad that the WWE gave Rey Mysterio the dead Eddie push! People say that Rey was only champion because of Eddie, but Chavo can't get even get into the MIDCARD because of Eddie. Chavo blows like Monica Lewinsky, and even Eddie Guerrero (pre World Champion Eddie Guerrero mind you) wouldn't be good enough to save Los Guerreros from one of the biggest tag teams of the 1990s.

 

[Shocky]

I agree, The Guerreros are living off of Eddie Guerrero at this point. But I think any discussion with the Outlaws getting robbed will all be a mute point, because I think it's safe to say that the Hardy Boys have a bigger fan base then the outlaws, and would have knocked them off regardless in this round. Do I agree with it, no, but I know that there are more Hardy Boy blow hards in the world then Outlaw fans.

 

[Slyfox696]

I agree, The Guerreros are living off of Eddie Guerrero at this point. But I think any discussion with the Outlaws getting robbed will all be a mute point, because I think it's safe to say that the Hardy Boys have a bigger fan base then the outlaws, and would have knocked them off regardless in this round. Do I agree with it, no, but I know that there are more Hardy Boy blow hards in the world then Outlaw fans.

That's true, and the Hardys have had a pretty easy run through this tournament so far. Who ranked these teams anyways?

 

[Shocky]

Haha, I am just the messenger and only using total days as champion and number of championships held as credentials to be in the tournament. I would blame the company that decided to put titles on people for certain amount of times but far be it for me to criticize any wrestling company and its decision making......

 

[Shocky]

Onto the next set of matches from Round 3.

The Following matches take place in the ECW Arena, under Extreme Rules. (Yup, Steiner v. RVD/Sabu will have to wait... )

Match 1:
#1 The Dudley Boys (Bubba Ray and D-Von Dudley) vs. #9 The Impact Players (Justin Credible and Lance Storm)

Match 2:
#13 Sting and Lex Luger vs. #5 The Eliminators (John Kronus and Perry Saturn)

Match 3:
#18 Big, Bad, And Dangerous (Big Van Vader and Bam Bam Bigelow) vs. #7 Edge and Christian

Match 4:
#3 Money Inc. (Ted DiBiase and Mike Rotunda) vs. #11 The World's Greatest Tag Team (Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas)
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The Poll is now open, it will close on Monday August 6th at 6pm ET.

ECW Region, Round 3​

 

[MsBHaving]

Th Rockers over MWC , Styles and Daniels over Rock n Roll Express , Hardyz over Guerreros , and Harlem Heat over Hollywood Blondes.I know Ive got my favorites and prejudices in there but I have to give some of my teams my loyalty even if they are not odds on favorites to win.Later in the tournament I will vote more on technique and talent but until the feeders are gone then my faves get my vote.Gotta be honest.

 

[Prax]

Ok I've been kinda quiet lately cause i'm lazy but I have to speak out on a couple of matches. I pretty much agree with the consensus for the first round 3 region, however there are some matches in this current region that could be subject for controversy.

Dudley Boyz vs. Impact Players
I have to agree with Slyfox here. Sure, Lance Storm was solid and he proved it by being able to do something beyond the level of Aldo Montoya in a major promotion. However Justin Credible absolutely sucks. I'm sorry. But the only think he's known for in the wrestling world is being the only wrestler in history to be credited with two of the top 10 shittiest gimmicks in wrestling. Justin Credible, who's name people make fun of to this date, and Aldo Montoya, who people keep forgetting to this date.

And they're match with the Dudley Boyz, the most decorated tag team in professional wrestling history. I don't like them, i think they're nothing but below average in the ring individually (their singles runs prove that... Reverend D-Von anyone?), but they were pioneers as a tag team, I'll give them that. It's arguable that they're a unidimensional team (the whole tables thing), but they should beat the Impact Players blindfolded here.
Winners: Dudley boyz by a mile

Sting/Luger vs. Eliminators
Say what you will about the Eliminators in ECW, but Sting and Luger in their primes could each beat Kronus and Saturn alone, it's a simple fact. You have Sting, the biggest thing to come out of WCW and the biggest name never to wrestle for WWE, and you have Luger, who's extremely underrated by fans today on the IWC. Whether they were a proper team or not doesn't matter. They should easily beat the Eliminators here, despite extreme rules. I understand it's a factor here, I believe that, but I think the fact that Sting and Luger are lightyears ahead of both members of the Eliminators in terms of talent and ability should outweigh that here.
Winners: Sting/Luger

BBD vs. E&C
This one's a little harder than you would imagine for me. A Vader match was the first match I ever saw when I first started watching wrestling and I was always fan, so he has a special place in my heart, and Biggelow is arguably the best big man in the history of the business. E&C is one of the best tag teams in history period. I voted BBD just because I want to see Biggelow wrestle Dibiase for the second tournament in a row, but I think E&C deserves it. Maybe I'm just a little bias. But it's too interesting of an opportunity to pass up. Besides, I think Christian is one of the most overrated superstars in wrestling currently anyway. I think Extreme Rules tips the scales slighty in favor of BBD anyway.
Winners: BBD... don't hurt me please

Money Inc. vs. WGTT
If anyone votes WGTT, I don't think they understand professional wrestling. Professional wrestling is more than what you can do in the ring. It's about storytelling, mic skills, charisma etc. And other than mat skills and in ring ability, Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin have none of thhose things. Money Inc. in one of the best teams in wrestling history, Dibiase is one of the greatest heels of all time and a good worker, and IRS was a great worker in his day as well. This one should be fun but it should be Money Inc easily. No rules benefits Dibiase anyway.
Winners: Money Inc.

Round 4:
Dudley Boyz vs. Sting/Luger (Best of ECW vs. the pioneers of WCW. Should be an interesting match with a lot of style clashing to say the least.
BBD vs. Money Inc. (I hope this happens. Biggelow vs. Dibiase generated a lot of discussion last tournament).

 

[Shocky]

The Dudleys vs. the Impact Players:
I'm going with the Dudleyz, by far. Yes, Lance Storm out wrestles anyone in this match one on one, hands down, but the Dudleys are one of those faces of tag team wrestling, agree with it or not. I think Justin Credible gets way too much love, take a cane and a mic away from him, and he's just another generic blah wrestler that happens to hit one move really good. Dudleys in a squash.

Sting/Luger vs. The Eliminators:
I think the road of the Eliminators should end here. They are high flyers, but aren't as hardcore as people like to paint them out to be. We're talkign about fucking Sting here guys, one of the best damn wrestlers of any era, period. While Lugers abilities can be questioned, I think he is right there with John Kronus, who is horribly over rated by the ECW alumni fans. Saturn is good, Kronus is fat. Sting and Luger should win this one.

Big Bad And Dangerous vs. Edge and Christian
Oh boy, this is a match I would pay top dollar to watch. Holy poopola. Vader and Bigelow are just sick in the ring, and hurt people, and like to do it. However, no one team has excelled in gimmick matches or matches without rules as much as Edge and Christian. Edge and Christian are the best tag team of this decade, without question. Not only are they the greatest tag team of this decade, both are top ten singles wrestlers of this decade too. Edge and Christian win with the Conchairto, which is perfectly legal.

Money Inc vs. the WGTT:
Athletically speaking, the WGTT wins this one hands down, but wrestling isn't all about just wrestling. Psychology folks, and the Million Dollar Man was the best WWF heel of the late 80's, and maybe number 2 behind Wrestlemania Era Roddy Piper. Mike Rotunda gets shit on for the IRS gimmick, but there is no denying he is very good in the ring. Money Inc should win this one, but I have a feeling the WGTT marks are coming out for this one.

Potential Round 4: Remember Round 4 is Spin the Wheel make the Deal, so the Gimmick can sway potential outcomes greatly, just ask the people pissed with the AJ Styles vs. Hulk Hogan Ladder Match.
Dudley Boys vs. Sting and Luger (Interesting, but I think the Dudleys can pull this one)
Edge and Christian vs. Money Inc. (God, I would pay a lot of money to see this match as well.)

 

[RVDgurl]

Ok, catching up on the last 2 days:

MWC v. Rockers
I haven't voted for the Rockers yet and I'm not going to start here. They should have been eliminated in the first round and if they move past the MWC people should be beaten. Again, Janetty is a weak link compared to the solid team of the Andersons.
Winner: MWC

Styles & Daniels v. RNR Express
I have much respect for what the RNR guys did for tag team wrestling in the 80's but Styles & Daniels are just too good.
Winner: Styles & Daniels

Guerreros v. Hardys
A good match up which would probably be full of innovative moves and high flying. Chavo is the weak link here which would be the downfall for the Guerreros. I know most people think the Hardys are overrated, but I have always disagreed with that.
Winner: Hardys

Harlem Heat v. Hollywood Blondes
Definately the toughest match in this group. Two very good teams and it is a shame that someone has to be eliminated. The Heat have more experience together but Pillman and Austin were just so damn good that I cannot in good faith vote against them.
Winner: Hollywood Blondes

Dudleys v. Impact Players
I hate to see an ECW team go home! I love the Impact Players, they were a hell of a team, but the Dudleys have rules the tag team scene for over a decade. In their prime, they were untouchable.
Winner: Dudleys

Sting & Luger v. Eliminators
Anyone who doesn't vote for the Eliminators has never seen their work or is just anti-ECW. Luger was terrible. There is no way in hell he would survive a match under ECW rules against these guys. No contest here: Sting and Luger get the Total Elimination.
Winner: Eliminators

Vader & Bigelow v. Edge & Christian
Here is another tough match up that took me a bit to decide on a winner. On one side you have probably the two best big men to ever get in a ring. On the other side, you have the kings of the ladder match. I think that ECW rules would actually play to the side of Edge and Christian.
Winner: Edge & Christian

Money Inc. v. WGTT
Another tough match. However, I think in an ECW match, the WGTT would be absolutely sick. For Money Inc. to win this match, they woud have to keep WGTT grounded and carry the match at a very slow pace. In an ECW match that is very difficult to pull off.
Winner: WGTT

 

[Slyfox696]

Sting & Luger v. Eliminators
Anyone who doesn't vote for the Eliminators has never seen their work or is just anti-ECW.

Funny, I thought that people not seeing their work would be a selling point for the Eliminators. The more people who've seen it, the less votes the Eliminators deserve.

Luger was terrible.

John Kronus was worse.

There is no way in hell he would survive a match under ECW rules against these guys.

Are you kidding? Sting is a freakin' MAN when it comes to hardcore. He and Abyss have almost killed each other, and Sting is 45 years old! Not to mention that Sting got beatdown on glass and thumbtacks just a couple weeks ago. Sting can handle the hardcore just fine, and Lex Luger is stronger than Saturn and Kronus combined.

No contest here: Sting and Luger get the Total Elimination.
Winner: Eliminators

Half of that is correct. No contest here.


Sting and Luger over Eliminators.

 

[RVDgurl]

Are you kidding? Sting is a freakin' MAN when it comes to hardcore. He and Abyss have almost killed each other, and Sting is 45 years old! Not to mention that Sting got beatdown on glass and thumbtacks just a couple weeks ago. Sting can handle the hardcore just fine.

Silly Slyfox, I didn't knock Sting at all. I enjoy his work, especially now in TNA. Luger, on the other hand, is a different story. He looks pretty, and all, but he is not good. Period. He is the original version of Dave Batista.

Half of that is correct. No contest here.
Sting and Luger over Eliminators.

You never fail to put a smile on my face. That's funny stuff.

 

[Slyfox696]

Silly Slyfox, I didn't knock Sting at all. I enjoy his work, especially now in TNA. Luger, on the other hand, is a different story. He looks pretty, and all, but he is not good. Period. He is the original version of Dave Batista.

Yes, but do you REALLY think John Kronus brings ANY redeeming value greater than Lex Luger?

You never fail to put a smile on my face.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize my pants zipper was down.

In all seriousness though...

Vote The Steiner Brothers!
















oops....wrong matchup....


Vote Sting and Luger!

 

[RVDgurl]

Yes, but do you REALLY think John Kronus brings ANY redeeming value greater than Lex Luger?

I absolutely think Kronus bring alot the ring. He played his character very well, had good chemistry with his partner and is more athletic than any other guy his size that I have ever seen. I would much rather watch him then see Luger use the 3 moves he has and then pose in the ring. BORING.

Vote Sting and Luger!

Again, funny stuff.

 

[Slyfox696]

I absolutely think Kronus bring alot the ring. He played his character very well, had good chemistry with his partner and is more athletic than any other guy his size that I have ever seen. I would much rather watch him then see Luger use the 3 moves he has and then pose in the ring. BORING.

Everything you just said can be applied to Lex Luger. He played a great character which got him his title runs, he and Sting had great chemistry (see their Superbrawl match with the Steiners...one of the best tag matches ever), and the guy was a former collegiate football player at Miami, meaning he was a hell of an athlete.

Vote Sting and Luger!

See, now you are getting it!

 

[RVDgurl]

Everything you just said can be applied to Lex Luger. He played a great character which got him his title runs, he and Sting had great chemistry (see their Superbrawl match with the Steiners...one of the best tag matches ever), and the guy was a former collegiate football player at Miami, meaning he was a hell of an athlete.
See, now you are getting it!

Luger = Boring

Say what you will about Kronus, but the guy was always entertaining to watch. I am entertained by creativity, which Kronus had coming out of his ears. Luger, not so much. Luger's character was boring and his moves were boring.

By the way, please don't tell people Luger played for Miami. I'm a Canes fan, and that's kinda embarassing. Besides, he didn't even last a full season there.

 

[Slyfox696]

Luger = Boring

Tell that to the millions of fans who cheered him every week.

By the way, please don't tell people Luger played for Miami. I'm a Canes fan, and that's kinda embarassing. Besides, he didn't even last a full season there.

Oh, so see! How can you be fair and objective? You obviously hate Luger because of things that have nothing to do with wrestling.

Don't take RVDGurl's opinion. She's mad because Luger didn't play well for Miami.

 

[schoondog]

Luger = Boring


By the way, please don't tell people Luger played for Miami. I'm a Canes fan, and that's kinda embarassing. Besides, he didn't even last a full season there.

I didn't think it was possible to not last a full season at miami, they let rapist, drug dealers, drug addicts and every other kind of criminal play for them. Hell i don't think you can play for them unless you carry a gun.

 

[Slyfox696]

I didn't think it was possible to not last a full season at miami, they let rapist, drug dealers, drug addicts and every other kind of criminal play for them. Hell i don't think you can play for them unless you carry a gun.

Hmm...sounds kind of like ECW...


All the more reason to vote Sting/Luger and The Steiner Brothers.


Remember...a vote for The Steiner Brothers, is a vote for Integrity.

 

[Prax]

Luger = Boring

Ask steve austin what he thinks of Lance Storm but you sure are a fan of him.


Besides, this tournament isn't about who's necessarily the most entertaining, if that was the case Goldust would've been in the final 8 during the singles tournament. But no, it's not just about being entertaining, and that's why Lance Storm made it that far.

Besides, I never found Luger boring anyway.

 

[RVDgurl]

I didn't think it was possible to not last a full season at miami, they let rapist, drug dealers, drug addicts and every other kind of criminal play for them. Hell i don't think you can play for them unless you carry a gun.

Stereotype. Nothing more than that. I assure you that the handful of Miami players that have been involved in stuff like that are comparable to most teams around the country. I would venture to say that Penn State has more players in trouble every year, they just do a better job of covering it up.

In closing I would like to add, Miami is the only team that has had at least one player drafted to the NFL in every draft for the past 20 years. Go Canes!!

Ask steve austin what he thinks of Lance Storm but you sure are a fan of him.
Besides, this tournament isn't about who's necessarily the most entertaining, if that was the case Goldust would've been in the final 8 during the singles tournament. But no, it's not just about being entertaining, and that's why Lance Storm made it that far.
Besides, I never found Luger boring anyway.

Lance Storm has more talent in his left arm than Luger has. Watch some of Storm's work in ECW- he was anything but boring. It was your beloved WWE that robbed him of his personality. Besides, Lance Storm can probably execute more moves than Luger can name.


Step outside the WCW/WWE box and vote RVD & Sabu. Because a vote for RVD & Sabu is a vote for world peace!!

 

[Colamania]

And you're saying I'M high and the heights must be draining my brain? Other than the fact that he wrestled in the great promotion of all time (sarcasm) what exactly makes Justin Credible worth a damn? Please inform me how the current Target employee was a great wrestler.

I said he was a great WRESTLER. Not a great sports entertainer, which you obviously prefer. He may not have been a big star, but that's just because he was underutilized. He actually had talent, he could actually lock someone in an armbar without tearing half of the muscles in his body. Sure, he was never put into a rapper gimmick, he never ended up in a clown costume, and he never had a stupid fucking spinning title belt. But he could WRESTLE

 

[Slyfox696]

I said he was a great WRESTLER. Not a great sports entertainer,

Umm, they are the exact same thing in the business we are referring to. Unless you are talking about NCAA wrestling or Olympic style wrestling, be a great "wrestler" and being a great "sports entertainer" are the same thing.

He may not have been a big star, but that's just because he was underutilized.

No, he wasn't a big star because he was atrocious.

He actually had talent, he could actually lock someone in an armbar without tearing half of the muscles in his body.

I can lock someone in an armbar without tearing half of the muscles in his body. How does that make Justin Credible special?

Sure, he was never put into a rapper gimmick, he never ended up in a clown costume, and he never had a stupid fucking spinning title belt. But he could WRESTLE

No, his stage name was Just In Credible. Clearly, that is a bare bones approach to professional wrestling.

 

[Colamania]

No, his stage name was Just In Credible. Clearly, that is a bare bones approach to professional wrestling.

Yes, is is actually. It means that he doesn't need gimmicks, flashy suits, and "bling-bling sideshows", coz he is Just Incredible at wrestling. So, in effect, you've proved yourself wrong.

 

[Shocky]

The only thing Incredible about Justin Credible was how bad his name was, and how bad ECW got at the end of it's existance, and I love ECW, I just recognize when it turned to shit.

Now, onto results.

. The Minnesota Wrecking Crew (Ole and Gene Anderson) vs. 24. the Rockers (Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty)

Ahh, the run is finally over. Shawn Michaels has dominated these tournaments thus far, but it ends at the hands of the #1 overall seed in the tournament. The Rockers couldn't face Ring of Honor tag teams the whole time, they finally met up with a team that high flying couldn't compete with.

MW Crew
71%
The Rockers
28%


2. 13. AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels vs. 5. The Rock 'N Roll Express (Robert Gibson and Ricky Morton)

This match was close the entire time. Styles and Daniels move on with a very close finish in this match, TNA still lives!!!

Styles/Daniels
52%
R&R XPress
47%


3. 15. Los Guerreros (Eddie and Chavo Guerrero) vs. 10. The Hardy Boys (Matt and Jeff Hardy)

Those damn Hardys. Well at least the run should end in the next round, because they'll actually be facing a real tag team, and not just two guys thrown together. Still, much closer then anticipated in these results.

Guerreros
38%
Hardyz
61%



4. 3. Harlem Heat (Booker T and Stevie Ray) vs. 11. The Hollywood Blondes (Steve Austin and Bryan Pillman)

Old school WCW is represented in this match. What about the love shown for Harlem Heat this tournament sof ar. They move on again, taking down a damn good tag team in the Blondes, Sucka!!!

Harlem Heat
66%
Hollywood Blondes
33%

So 4th round Spin the Wheel matchups
The Minnesota Wrecking Crew vs. AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels (The Gimmick will weigh heavily in the outcome of this match)
The Hardy Boyz vs. Harlem Heat (Ahh, the Hardy's could go home )

The Following Matches Take place in the TNA Impact Zone, and all matches take place in side of the six sided ring.

TNA:
1. Demolition (Ax and Smash) vs. 24. Dusty Rhodes and Dick Slater

Match 2:
#4 The Brainbusters ( Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard) vs. #5 the Road Warriors (Hawk and Animal)

Match 3:
#2 Toru Tanaka and Mr. Fuji vs. #7 the British Bulldogs (Davey Boy Smith and The Dynamite Kid)

Match 4:
14 The Brothers of Destruction (The Undertaker and Kane) vs. #6 Ricky Steamboat and Jay Youngblood​

The Poll is now open, it will close on Tuesday August 7th at 6pm ET.

TNA Region, Round 3​