The World Wants Obama

[klunderbunker]

Well I simply can't vote for a Black Muslim. He's clearly muslim, I see Hussein in his name.

And he was on one of the planes on 9/11, just like ED was. What else could a person who isn't white or with that name be doing?

 

[Shocky]

And he was on one of the planes on 9/11, just like ED was. What else could a person who isn't white or with that name be doing?

I agree. If you're skin was darker then Peach, then you should be interrogated, possibly sent to Gitmo until we know the truth.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Someone asked me what year 9/11 happened today. To be fair though, you write it as the ninth of November.

 

[Shocky]

Ah you Brits and your silly little ways, what, next you're going to tell me the Metric system is better then ours huh?

 

[klunderbunker]

I agree. If you're skin was darker then Peach, then you should be interrogated, possibly sent to Gitmo until we know the truth.

And we know they know. They all know. They're all rich, have oil wells, and a private harem, whose women will be liberated and made equal!

 

[Moon Knight]

And America will elect McCain just to piss them off. Also, I don't trust that Palin woman at all.

I don't care what the world wants, I have to live here they don't. I voting for McCain, I hate his immigration stance but I hate Obama's more.

On taxes, America suffers from the second-highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world. American corporations face a 35% federal tax rate, averaging 40% with state income taxes. In contrast, the average corporate tax rate in the European Union has been slashed from 38% in 1996 to 24% today. Ireland has a corporate tax rate of 12.5%, which has caused per capita income to soar from the second lowest in the E.U. 20 years ago to the second highest today. Corporate tax rates in India and China are lower as well.

Mr. McCain addresses this problem directly by proposing to slash the federal corporate-tax rate from 35% to 25%. He also proposes immediate expensing for capital investment, which means that capital costs can be deducted in the year they are incurred, like all other business expenses, rather than spread over many years under arbitrary depreciation schedules. Making the Bush tax cuts permanent, as Mr. McCain has pledged to do, would leave the top individual income-tax rate at 35%, the capital gains and dividends tax rates at 15% and eliminate the repetitive death tax. He would also double the personal exemption for children and other dependents from $3,500 to $7,000.

Mr. McCain proposes to abolish the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT), which was originally adopted as a mechanism to ensure that a small number of the richest Americans pay at least some tax. Because it was never indexed for inflation, today it imposes sharp, surprise tax increases on the middle class in the highest-tax states. Since it was never intended to be a big tax increase on the American people, Mr. McCain argues it should be eliminated. He also pledges to ban taxes on the Internet and on cell phones, consistent with his longstanding record.

Barack Obama, by contrast, seems to have proposed tax-rate increases for just about every federal tax. He proposes to increase the top two individual tax rates. He would increase the capital gains tax rate by 33%. Ditto that for the tax rate on dividends. He has proposed Social Security payroll tax increases of 16% to 32% for families making over $250,000 a year (that would have a minor effect on the long-term Social Security deficit while arbitrarily punishing these families with effective negative real rates of return from Social Security). Mr. Obama's health plan would also impose a new payroll tax on employers. He would reinstitute the "death tax" (estate tax) with a top rate of 45%. He has also proposed several increases in corporate taxes, including a "windfall profits" tax on oil. Nothing Obama said in his speech Thursday night changed these troublesome proposals.

 

[Uncle Sam]

We don't use the metric system. I do think it's a good idea though. The rest of Europe also use our way of dating.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I don't care what the world wants, I have to live here they don't. I voting for McCain, I hate his immigration stance but I hate Obama's more.

Foreign policy.

 

[Moon Knight]

Foreign policy.

I like McCains better.

 

[Uncle Sam]

He can't raise his arms very high.

 

[Moon Knight]

He can't raise his arms very high.

He can't bend over very well either.

 

[Uncle Sam]

He'll do it. You'll see.

 

[Moon Knight]

He'll do it. You'll see.

No he won't.

 

[Uncle Sam]

 

[Moon Knight]

 

[Lee]

HAHAHAHA!

 

[Shocky]

Obama's foreign policy, Kiss Everyone's Ass???

 

[Moon Knight]

Obama's foreign policy, Kiss Everyone's Ass???

Yep. And invade Pakistan.

 

[FromTheSouth]

I'm going Obama simply based on he's not Republican. The economy has gone down too far with what we've had the last 8 years. Obama certainly isn't the answer, but he can't be worse

The Dow Jones Industrial Average and home ownership were at all time highs until the democrats took control of congress. You understand that since that happened Pelosi and Reid have accomplished nothing except for the lowest approval rating ever for congress.

 

[klunderbunker]

The Dems controlling Congress means absolutely nothing right now. They have what, a 2 vote lead? That means nothing. Without being up 60-40 in the Senate, there's nothing at all to it.

 

[Moon Knight]

The Dems controlling Congress means absolutely nothing right now. They have what, a 2 vote lead? That means nothing. Without being up 60-40 in the Senate, there's nothing at all to it.

Then its the republicans fault? Why? Also no party should have a 60-40 majority ever.

 

[klunderbunker]

Its not at all the Republicans fault. Congress right now is virtually worthless as its a dead split.

 

[Afro-Ameri-Spawn]

While I have little experience in this area, I did take a few classes in college in the last year, and this is how I understand the reason for teh downplaying of the economy.

Okay, let's see if my classes math up with yours.

To begin with, outsourcing is a good thing. Yes, jobs are lost over here, but many of those jobs are jobs that require little to no skill. These jobs being opened allow Americans that were working them are now able to move up to better jobs.

Um, you do know that there is a vast majority of Americans who's skill and education level fit those jobs right? I mean people who flip burgers and other ungodly teenaged level jobs to put food on the table don't want to do that shit. They would LOVE to sit on a phone and read a script to someone.

Have I ever told you about the time when someone had hacked into my Sprint account and bought nearly $250 in ringtones and wall papers and was sending them to god known where with their "gift" option? Well I never knew about it but wondered why my bill was so high. So I called them and every timed I talked to some "outsourced" person in India who just read from a computer screen rather than listening to me. I tried to tell them how these were not my charges but they either were not listening or were not well versed enough to hear how stressed out I was. I ended up being put on hold and transfered to many times that it wasn't even funny. But the thing about the Sprint system is that half of the customer service was here in America and half was in India. So if I got stuck with some rude poorly trained outsourced customer rep, i would just ask to be put back into the hold pool to take the chance of talking to someone in America. Well after talking about 4 Americans and 15 outsourced reps over a 2 week period, I finally got it resolved and straightened out. But it should not have taken that much and I should not have had to waste hours of time on the phone with people who could not understand me or how upset I was becoming. I don't blame them though. I blame the company for poor training and not hiring people who were fluent in the language of the people who they would be serving. But then again, that would just take away from the cheap appeal of outsourcing in the first place.

The oil prices from what I understand are due to the value of the American dollar, the only currency that OPEC accepts, being through the floor. Due to America's budget going downhill quickly due to the spending from the war, America can pay even less debts than usual, thereby making the dollar less valuable. It makes oil more expensive making it more expensive over here. The other thing that is killing things here are the interest only home loans that banks have issued over the years, which is a whole other story.

Well I agree that the dollar is not what it used to be. But hey, that's just the sign of the times and the transition into a world economy. But supposedly it's supposed to be very expensive to buy a gallon of gas in England as well, and the pound is kicking the dollars ass right now. It's because people aren't regulated the oil companies well enough. The government is scared to crack down because they think that the oil companies will cut us off. But America is the the largest consumer of oil in the world. So it would be like cutting your nose off the spite your face. Somebody just needs to stand up and say "hey, either you come down on the price or you go elsewhere." That might scare em enough to come back down to earth.

 

[klunderbunker]

On the outsourcing thing, you'll get no argument from me. I've dealt with imbeciles like that before and you have all my sympathy on it. No argument from me.

The oil thing is dead on too. Oil companies run this country, period. With cars in Europe and Asia getting the insane gas milage they get, are you telling me that GM can't get a car with over 30 miles per gallon? Look at other technology: Phones, tv, film, computers, I could go on all night. THings change every 10 minutes, but we get the same milage we've had for 20 years? There's no way I can be convinced that the technology isn't there. I can however be convinced that oil companies set their foot down on it. Exxon Mobil and Haliburton's quarters are shattering their yearly records since the war began. That's too big of a coincidence when our President was an oil man as well.

 

[Shocky]

klunder that all goes back to labor unions. It's so hard for american automobile makers to be competitive because foreign car makers don't have to worry about unions and paying pensions and all that shit.

They have the technology to do it, but it's going to be priced just as much, if not more then foreign cars for the same technology, and that lies on the unions more then anything.