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The Three Most Over-Rated WWE Wrestlers by the IWC

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CM Punk - He is a Good performer and Really good on the mic, Punk has alot going for him But alot of the Praise he gets is unwarrented. Alot of Fans are saying he is the BEST EVER, Or the BEST in Wrestling today, The end all and be all in wrestling. how Punk wants to change wrestling for the better and all fans, The Voice of the wrestling fans. Which is all a load of crap... Punks Character and real life persona is very hypocritical, He says he wants orginality right? Please look up Kenta. He is a Wrestler in Japan, You will see How Punk copied his wrestling style. Im not one to get worked up over a few moves taken from here and there, But Punk Basicly stole Kenta's entire move set, Not a few moves, no, He has copied everything from him. The diffrence is, CM Punk does the moves very poorly compared to Kenta, CM Punk GTS is very sloppy and fake looking.

Colt Cabana - He has been in the business for along time and i havent seen or heard of a Great Colt Cabana match, I heard of Good ones but not great ones, He never make it in the big leagues, he is a small time performer and in wrestling you got to have mass appeal and This man, Even though has talent is not a Great performer by any means, Colt is Decent, but he isnt one of the best in today as some will say, Colt isnt even the best on the Indy circuit or even in the top 10.

Zack Ryder - His move set is basicly just a comedy act, The rough Ryder is a ridcules finisher, All ryder does is do the moves to set up his catch phrases. Ryder is a comedy act and a medicore one at that. His mic skills need work, He looks very out of place on the mic and it seems like his lines are set up.He seems dead set on doing what he practices and it all seems very forced.Ryder's potential is no where near the Main event level or even mid card.
 
Zach Ryder is the most overrated ever. The IWC usually kill wrestlers with limited ability (see Cena). But he has an Internet show (which anyone could do), and he wasn't getting pushed initially, so people rallied behind him.
 
John Morrison - One of the most overrated guys on the entire WWE roster. There were kids saying this guy should have a title shot and that he's main event material and "not bad on the mic." Give me a break. He's decent in the ring but nothing special and he can't talk at all. I've never really understood the obsession with him by the IWC.

Rey Mysterio - Originally he was brought for the Latino fan base. He started to catch on with everyone else and his fanbase grew. However, the guy is a shrimp and every match he fights in is not believable. I mean he was in World tite matches against Batista and Great Khali!! Please. He's good and a lot better than many of the guys on the roster but let's not go crazy like some of the IWC does. He's a midcarder at best.

Evan Bourne - This guy is a joke and a half. I don't understand the IWC's obsession with him. There were people saying he should get a title shot or should be pushed into the main event picture, not that long ago. He is kind of entertaining in the ring but is at the absolute best, a lower midcarder.
 
Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes and Jack Swagger.

That's not to say any of them are bad wrestlers, because they aren't. It's just that my definition of "over-rated" concerns itself with mega-pushes that are based on non-wrestling factors I just don't agree with nor understand. To me, these three guys have bland personalities but are constantly seen on TV and have programs written for them that exceed what's being done for others of their mid-card caliber. I think they are being over-rated by the company, not necessarily the fans.

Zack Ryder earns honorable mention. Unlike the other three, he has a definable personality; it's just that it's a ridiculous one. He's over-rated by the company in that he's being featured at all. Otherwise, he's a clown act......but hey, what do I know? I never thought it would work.......and I was wrong.:)
 
CM Punk - He is a Good performer and Really good on the mic, Punk has alot going for him But alot of the Praise he gets is unwarrented. Alot of Fans are saying he is the BEST EVER, Or the BEST in Wrestling today, The end all and be all in wrestling. how Punk wants to change wrestling for the better and all fans, The Voice of the wrestling fans. Which is all a load of crap... Punks Character and real life persona is very hypocritical, He says he wants orginality right? Please look up Kenta. He is a Wrestler in Japan, You will see How Punk copied his wrestling style. Im not one to get worked up over a few moves taken from here and there, But Punk Basicly stole Kenta's entire move set, Not a few moves, no, He has copied everything from him. The diffrence is, CM Punk does the moves very poorly compared to Kenta, CM Punk GTS is very sloppy and fake looking.

Colt Cabana - He has been in the business for along time and i havent seen or heard of a Great Colt Cabana match, I heard of Good ones but not great ones, He never make it in the big leagues, he is a small time performer and in wrestling you got to have mass appeal and This man, Even though has talent is not a Great performer by any means, Colt is Decent, but he isnt one of the best in today as some will say, Colt isnt even the best on the Indy circuit or even in the top 10.

Zack Ryder - His move set is basicly just a comedy act, The rough Ryder is a ridcules finisher, All ryder does is do the moves to set up his catch phrases. Ryder is a comedy act and a medicore one at that. His mic skills need work, He looks very out of place on the mic and it seems like his lines are set up.He seems dead set on doing what he practices and it all seems very forced.Ryder's potential is no where near the Main event level or even mid card.

Just as a point on Colt and I'm a big fan so this might be biased but while he may not be top ten in general wrestling in terms of comedy wrestling he's up there as one of the best. His timing etc is fantastic. On the other hand I know comedy wrestling isn't everyone's cup of tea and therefore realise why people maybe don't get it.

Anyway back on topic:

1) Zack Ryder: This is a strange one because I really respect how he's got himself over etc I just don't get it. It may be me having no interest in Jersey Short or whatever but his gimmick annoys me and he hasn't shown me enough in the ring. Although he hasn't really had a chance to have a long match yet so that may be part of the reason.

2) Davey Richards: Again this is a strange one. His execution of moves etc is fantastic I just don't think he's that great a story teller in the ring. He's had fantastic matches but they've always been really long ones and because ROH allows him to do that and I think if you're wrestling for an hour while it's physically harder it's not hard to convince folk it's a great match. I can see why there's hype but just something about him doesn't click with me. I've only really started watching ROH since the new TV debut and before that just saw the occasional match so maybe he'll change my mind.

3) This is a tough one as I actually tend to agree with most of the internet darlings haha. But if I have to choose I guess Swagger although whether he really counts as one at the moment I don't know. Again it's not that he isn't a great wrestler he's just boring as hell. I've yet to watch him wrestle a match and not have my attention wander all over the place during it. I think he needs to mix things up a bit. His character hasn't really changed since he arrived on the scene and a new idea might be what's needed.
 
CM Punk - He is a Good performer and Really good on the mic, Punk has alot going for him But alot of the Praise he gets is unwarrented. Alot of Fans are saying he is the BEST EVER, Or the BEST in Wrestling today, The end all and be all in wrestling. how Punk wants to change wrestling for the better and all fans, The Voice of the wrestling fans. Which is all a load of crap... Punks Character and real life persona is very hypocritical, He says he wants orginality right? Please look up Kenta. He is a Wrestler in Japan, You will see How Punk copied his wrestling style. Im not one to get worked up over a few moves taken from here and there, But Punk Basicly stole Kenta's entire move set, Not a few moves, no, He has copied everything from him. The diffrence is, CM Punk does the moves very poorly compared to Kenta, CM Punk GTS is very sloppy and fake looking.

Colt Cabana - He has been in the business for along time and i havent seen or heard of a Great Colt Cabana match, I heard of Good ones but not great ones, He never make it in the big leagues, he is a small time performer and in wrestling you got to have mass appeal and This man, Even though has talent is not a Great performer by any means, Colt is Decent, but he isnt one of the best in today as some will say, Colt isnt even the best on the Indy circuit or even in the top 10.

Zack Ryder - His move set is basicly just a comedy act, The rough Ryder is a ridcules finisher, All ryder does is do the moves to set up his catch phrases. Ryder is a comedy act and a medicore one at that. His mic skills need work, He looks very out of place on the mic and it seems like his lines are set up.He seems dead set on doing what he practices and it all seems very forced.Ryder's potential is no where near the Main event level or even mid card.

This thread has no real question, so I'll just say this.

You do realize CM Punk has been doing the same moves (besides GTS) before KENTA even came into full time pro wrestling? Do some research because his moves actually differ from that of KENTA most of the times.

And quite honestly, you can make fun of the IWC all you want, but you're smarky comments level down to what the IWC is.

CM Punk may not be the best today, but he sure as hell is a lot better than most of the roster. And why blame him if he can't change WWE for the better? That's WWE's fault and you blame CM Punk for being the only one who actually tries?

As for Zack Ryder, I find his gimmick ridiculous. But he's a great in ring competitor when given the chance. Watch his matches with Christian if you don't believe his ability in the ring. Because he's a lot better than the likes of Miz.

I never watch Colt Cabana so I can't say a thing about him.
 
This thread has no real question, so I'll just say this.

You do realize CM Punk has been doing the same moves (besides GTS) before KENTA even came into full time pro wrestling? Do some research because his moves actually differ from that of KENTA most of the times.

And quite honestly, you can make fun of the IWC all you want, but you're smarky comments level down to what the IWC is.

CM Punk may not be the best today, but he sure as hell is a lot better than most of the roster. And why blame him if he can't change WWE for the better? That's WWE's fault and you blame CM Punk for being the only one who actually tries?

As for Zack Ryder, I find his gimmick ridiculous. But he's a great in ring competitor when given the chance. Watch his matches with Christian if you don't believe his ability in the ring. Because he's a lot better than the likes of Miz.

I never watch Colt Cabana so I can't say a thing about him.

10/10, couldn't have said it better.

I am SO TIRED of these topics trying to tell me who I am wrong to like because YOU don't like him, it's stupid.

Punk is far from being overrated for many he is the ONLY thing relevant in the wrestling world at the moment, maybe you don't get him or don't like him but it doesn't make him overrated one bit because he usually deliver.

Ryder you just can't see how good he is in the ring because you can't get over his comedy gimmick. Sure the people who say he shold be world heavyweight chanmoion are overrating him but those are mainly idiots who can be dismiss not the whole IWC. As a matter of fact most of the IWC is now shitting on Ryder because he is not only an Internet darling but his starting to get over.

If you guys respect Cena for the hard work he did and his doing you should respect the heel out of Ryder who force the WWE to notice and use him.

This should be a what wrestler I don't like topic, because you are (like everyone) in no position to tell anyone who is overrated or not.
 
It's really hard to put on a top 3 most overrated list. Nowadays almost every wrestler has his fair share of haters. But if I had to make a list it would look like this :


2 - Zack Ryder - I like Zack, I really do, but in no way is he the best in the WWE right now like a lot of people think he is. He made a very entertaining web show and did a great job getting himself over. But let's be serious here, Ryder = Ratings? Not really. Only when they put him with guys like Cena in the main event.


1 - Natalya - I guess I'm the only one who actually thinks Nattie is ridiculously overrated. I hate hearing everyone in the IWC putting her WAY above her level by saying "she could out-wrestle most of the guys" or "she has the best sharpshooter of all time!". I have nothing against her really except for the fact that she's overrated by the internet fans who think that just because she trained in the Hart family dungeon she's the best wrestler of all time.

Well, that's my list. Like I said it's extremely hard for me to list the top 3 most overrated because nowadays, the fans are bitchier than ever and will bash any wrestler for any flaw they see even of it's their freaking personal life.
 
3. Zack Ryder

The guy has decent ring skils, decent mic skills, a horrible gimmick, yet over here in Wrestlezone the guy's loved to hell and back by the majority. He definitely isn't bad and he definitely knows how to promote himself but he is the basis of overated.

2. Natalya

Everybody goes on and on that she's some great In Ring Wrestler yet I've never seen one good match from her. Her last name doesn't mean shit about in ring skills if you want proof put out David Flair. I'd go as far as to say she's just a Kelly Kelly or Eve playing a bully gimmick.

3. Beth Pheonix

Like the one above all the IWC says is she's this great in ring wrestler. I've never seen one match from her where I can safely say that it was a good match. I can say that about Michelle McCool, I can say that about Melina, I can say that about Mickie James, I can say that about Layla, I can't say that for Beth.

So thier's my list I hate calling people overrated but these three get overated really badly so I picked them.
 
1. Cena is by far the most overrated wrestler in the world today. He has mic skills but his wrestling skills are horrible. Vince just keeps trying to get us to cheer him but I wish he would get the message we want to boo the crap out of him.
2. Jeff Hardy is really overrated I think that beyond his daredevil style he gots nothing. No talent and couldn't wrestle him self out of a paper bag.
3. Crimson he has show me nothing and everytime he wrestles I get a feeling that it is bed time.
 
WWE Guys:

1) Evan Bourne: flash in the pan, one or two impressive moves, lacks basic mic skills

2) Zack Ryder: he is hilarious and has a unique finsher....thats about it....i like him but i wouldn't miss him

3) John Morrison: see Evan Bourne

WRESTLING IN GENERAL:

1) AJ STYLES: lacks mic skills and basic story telling ability. Has generally the same kind of match and cannot adapt his style (no pun intended). Ex. his match with Christopher Daniels in the I Quit Match.....horribly put together, didn't make much sense to me.

2) SAMOA JOE: fat slob and has NO HEART what so ever. Never seen the guy put in much effort and is nothing more than a poor mans Bam Bam Bigelow

3) EDDIE EDWARDS/DAVEY RICHARDS: first time i saw them walking around a lockerroom, thought they were locals. they do not look the part. lack storytelling ability and mic skills like 99% of ROH's past and current roster.
 
Once again, we complain about the IWC overrating guys. The IWC overrates every single wrestler that is over with the crowd... Cena? SUPERover. Ryder? SUPER over. Punk? SUPER over. Come on now. In order to be liked anymore by the IWC is to not be over, and when they do get over, they get the shaft from the IWC all over again.

Zack Ryder is overrated by some, but I dont see how anyone can say he is Top 3. Go to a live event and see how many and how loud the "We Want Ryder!" chants get. Tell me the guy isnt over. He isnt getting a main event push, so I dont get why he is overrated. Sure, his gimmick is that of a over the top fun loving guy from NY, but I see it more as he is acting overly excited to be hanging out with Cena and being on TV. No one complained when Jericho got himself over in WCW after having a bad gimmick, but lord knows Ryder gets nailed right? ***Im just waiting now for people thinking I am comparing Jericho to Ryder***

CM Punk is easily as popular and over as Cena right now. Have any of you haters watched Money in the Bank 2011? I was there and the place chanted for him ALL night. Watch Raw and they chant for him. Punk and Ryder are easily getting the loudest non-entrance pops everywhere they go. Punk is a great technician (usually what the IWC looks at), great on the mic, and has a pretty decent program going right now. Cena should be turning heel soon and Punk can more than handle being the top face. Once again, he is "overrated" because he is over. Just wait to DBD gets over... you guys will hate him too.

If you want overrated, pick people who actually are overrated...

Sin Cara?
Mason Ryan?
Dare I say the whole ROH roster? (If they were so good, they would have made the big time already)
 
Great Thread as there are many overrated favorites of IWC.....
The 3 most overrated are

3.ZACH RYDER
:I like this guy very much but he is way overrated in these forums...

2.JOHN MORRISON:This guy is just a spot monkey,there are many more deserving than him,his mic work sucks and he have zero charisma whatsoever..
I just hope wwe dont give him another contract,..!!

and the most overrated is

1.DANIEL BRYAN:Yess....Dbryan sucks,he have zero personality and whenever he is on tv i just want to change the channel...
But IWC are way too happy to suck his pe***,if he becomes WHC,it would be worse than Jack Swagger..!!
 
The OP has copied this article word-to-word from some website. I definitely remember reading this article, just don't remember the site.

Anyway the wrestlers that I think are over-rated are:

1. John Morrison: I really don't see anything special in him. All he does is a few flips and jumps. He is one wrestler that doesn't seem to have changed a bit in all his years in the business. And his finisher hasn't ever hit his opponent once.

2. Chris Jericho: I may get a bit of flack for this one, but I believe that Jericho is over-rated. People consider him to be as good as Rock on the mic and as good as HBK in the ring. I don't think so. I certainly believe that he is talented, not as much as others believe.

Can't really think of a third right now.
 
CM Punk - He is a Good performer and Really good on the mic, Punk has alot going for him But alot of the Praise he gets is unwarrented. Alot of Fans are saying he is the BEST EVER, Or the BEST in Wrestling today, The end all and be all in wrestling. how Punk wants to change wrestling for the better and all fans, The Voice of the wrestling fans. Which is all a load of crap... Punks Character and real life persona is very hypocritical, He says he wants orginality right? Please look up Kenta. He is a Wrestler in Japan, You will see How Punk copied his wrestling style. Im not one to get worked up over a few moves taken from here and there, But Punk Basicly stole Kenta's entire move set, Not a few moves, no, He has copied everything from him. The diffrence is, CM Punk does the moves very poorly compared to Kenta, CM Punk GTS is very sloppy and fake looking.

Ehm no. CM Punk and Kenta have very few moves in common aside from the GTS. Punk was doing the Running High Knee back in IWA: MS, you'd have known that if you'd have even cared to watch Punk from back then. Punk brought the GTS to a national level in North America, wrestling moves aren't something which only one person can ever use. I guess Randy Orton and DDP are overrated too because they took Ace Steel's Cutter? Yeah, no.

Second, you must have never seen Kenta wrestle in your entire life. The dude has had sloppy matches with McGuinness, Delirious and Davey Richards. He even missed the GTS against Delirious and connected with the shoulder. CM Punk does every move in a near flawless motion asides from the Flying Elbow Drop, and even that can be given the benefit of the doubt seeing as he only started using it post-Randy Savage's death as a tribute.

Punk is probably the best wrestler in the world at the moment, it's a pretty loose term to label yourself but he could make a fair argument out of it. His microphone skills are by far the best WWE has seen in years, so you're really just digging a non-exsistant hole for yourself here.

Colt Cabana - He has been in the business for along time and i havent seen or heard of a Great Colt Cabana match, I heard of Good ones but not great ones, He never make it in the big leagues, he is a small time performer and in wrestling you got to have mass appeal and This man, Even though has talent is not a Great performer by any means, Colt is Decent, but he isnt one of the best in today as some will say, Colt isnt even the best on the Indy circuit or even in the top 10.

Yeah, thing is Colt Cabana isn't recognized as a phenomenal wrestler, he's seen as a great performer and entertainer, hence why so many believe he'd fit into WWE so well. In ROH where everyone was being serious and near the same, you always had one comical guy standing and it was Colt. His popularity alone is why he isn't overrated. For a dude who made six national television appearences and has done nothing but, as you say, performed in the "small leagues", a good 13,000 chanted his name between The Gahden in Boston and the All State Arena in Chicago. Not bad for some a "small league" performer, huh?

Zack Ryder - His move set is basicly just a comedy act, The rough Ryder is a ridcules finisher, All ryder does is do the moves to set up his catch phrases. Ryder is a comedy act and a medicore one at that. His mic skills need work, He looks very out of place on the mic and it seems like his lines are set up.He seems dead set on doing what he practices and it all seems very forced.Ryder's potential is no where near the Main event level or even mid card.

This one I kind of agree on. Although you've mixed up how he is overrated.

Zack Ryder is a decent wrestler, there isn't anything wrong with the Rough Ryder it's a Leaping Leg Lariat. His microphone skills are good and he has serious determination. That being said, he is overrated due to how people blow his talent out of proportion. He isn't actually that good at all, he simply made a connection with the fans. His look is decent at best, rather lean with not that much definition. He plays off what pop culture likes, YouTube, comedy, JerseyShore; the dude has made a connection with people hence why he gets off the way he does.

Is he near or should be near the Main Event? No, his monster of a push needs to stop because it is flat out annoying. Does he belong in the mid-card? Yes. He has a huge amount of popularity, not sticking him in that position is stupid. Quite sadly the dude does sell. And I say this with some disgust, he will soon be the US Champion. Although I love Ziggler as Champion, Ryder will win it eventually.
 
I've only got two that I feel strongly about.

CM Punk
I think he's great - probably one of my favourite wrestlers ever. However, objectively, he just isn't as good as most of the IWC says he is. The notion that he's up there with Cena is as ridiculous as the idea that someone can be buried by losing a match, or that Vince McMahon only pushes big guys. He's a great in-ring talent - that's undeniable. But so is Cena. He's fluid and interesting on the mic. But so is Cena.The difference between the two of them, however, is that Cena always gets an incredible reaction. Punk's reactions range from Cena-like pops, to Air Boom-esque heat. I don't see how a man whose reactions fluctuate so greatly can be considered "the best".

Dolph Ziggler
Again, I like Dolph Ziggler, but he's still got so much to learn. He has potential, but he's not the future world champion like everyone thinks he is. I find him entertaining in the ring, but he's going to need to temper his occasional sloppiness. Like Punk, Ziggler's reactions are something which the IWC doesn't really look at. He's fluid and competent on the mic and he always entertains me. But he doesn't entertain the fans - or rather, he doesn't connect with the fans. He's not getting the boos that a future champion needs. So like I said, he has potential, but is vastly overrated by many members of the IWC.
 
I'm liking a lot of people's lists on this thread I think it's time to show you guys mine.

1. Dolph Ziggler - I'm sorry, but this man is not main event material. All the Zig-Zag fans compare him to Mr. Perfect and think he's one of the best in-ring performers in the industry and Curt's probably rolling in his grave after every post like that. Ziggler isn't even half the entertainer Curt was, and has still never gotten heat by himself in a promo. The only times he gets heat in the ring is when he's facing a top face like Orton or Cena (and now Ryder because of this revolution) and although he is good in the ring, being good in the ring doesn't make you a World Champion. Being over and being entertaining makes you a world champ, and Ziggler is neither of those.

2.CM Punk - I am a huge fan of CM Punk and apart from hearing Nash coming out to the NWO theme, he is the main reason why I watch. His promos are always entertaining, and his persona always comes off as real and honest, thus passing Cena in merchandise sales. With all that being said, CM Punk is not the best ever, which many people in the IWC believe. They put him in the same league with some of the very best to ever lace them up, which Punk definitely doesn't deserve. He's been hot for what, 4 months? Calm down guys, I know he's good but the IWC acts like he's a new age Stone Cold Steve Austin. I agree with the OP that his GTS is almost always botched. If he got more interesting moves and didn't botch them then he'd be phenomenal, but even with his crappy finisher he's still the most interesting guy in the WWE.

3. The Miz - I haven't seen a lot of Miz love since he started losing to Alex Riley but earlier in the year during WrestleMania it was sickening to see all the Mizfits praise Miz and say he'd take the torch from Cena in the future. I admit he's charismatic but his mic skills are WILDLY overrated just because he is confident on the stick. He has cut the same exact promo every week since 2009 of being under appreciated and just because he doesn't stutter or make mistakes people think he's the best on the mic today. In reality, he gets outshone on the mic by every main eventer they put him with (Rock, Cena, SCSA) and in the ring 80% of the roster could wrestle circles around him. He should be carrying the midcard, not mixing it up with THE ROCK in his return match.
 
I'm liking a lot of people's lists on this thread I think it's time to show you guys mine.

2.CM Punk - I am a huge fan of CM Punk and apart from hearing Nash coming out to the NWO theme, he is the main reason why I watch. His promos are always entertaining, and his persona always comes off as real and honest, thus passing Cena in merchandise sales. With all that being said, CM Punk is not the best ever, which many people in the IWC believe. They put him in the same league with some of the very best to ever lace them up, which Punk definitely doesn't deserve. He's been hot for what, 4 months? Calm down guys, I know he's good but the IWC acts like he's a new age Stone Cold Steve Austin. I agree with the OP that his GTS is almost always botched. If he got more interesting moves and didn't botch them then he'd be phenomenal, but even with his crappy finisher he's still the most interesting guy in the WWE.

I agree about Punk. I love what he's doing now but you hit the point exactly right. He's been hot for 4 months! Let's see him sustain it. I've always thought Punk would never reach "the next level" because of his inconsistent pops/popularity. He is wildly over now and getting his best push ever BUT let's see what happens over the next few months before we put him in the "greatest ever" category.
 
1 - The Undertaker. His time has come, his time has past, its time for his old ass to lay in the grass. He was good, he was great, but the last time he was truly entertaining was his first match with HBK, 3 years ago. He's a legend, but its time is up.

2 - The Rock. The attitude era is over, and the relics from that era need to go away. He should stick to Hollywood and away from the WWE. The expectation is so high, and so far we haven't seen anything worthwhile from him. He's been in the spot light since his return, and it still hasn't paid off. If the build up is for WM28, why is our time being wasted by him right now? Again he's a legend, but hes from and for a different time. These days, he doesn't fit.

3 - CM Punk. These forums went love drunk with Punk when he dropped the Nexus, did a shoot, and ran away with the WWE Title. Man that whole situation was really cool, then the WWE blew it, CM Punk became bland, and he was right back in the place as before. People cared, but still not enough for it to matter. CM Punk vs Del Rio wont sell Summer Slam

Honorable Mention to Kevin Nash. He's a complete fucking turd, and nothing you can post about him or show me will change this. He's past his expiration date, the one from when WCW went under.
 
I only have 1 that sticks out in my mind and im probably gonna get stick for this....

The Undertaker.

Really? when was the last time he was even half entertaining? I loved him during the 90s, I loved his biker run but since he went back to the "Deadman" i just cant seem to enjoy anything he does. Granted he can get a good match if with someone good enough to carry him but this whole Deadman deal is just so damn stupid in this day and age. Its not spooky, its not awe inspiring its just dumb. He is one of the best of all time but his time has long since gone. His promo's are corny, his catchphrases are more outdated that Vince McMahons suits and for me he just doesnt cut the mustard anymore.
 
Dolph Ziggler is probaby the IWC's most overrated Superstar. Everyone and their mothers want him to become more than what he's capable of. He's a damn fine wrestler but I just can't see him becoming more than a two or three time champion without changing his character a little. With that said, Dolph Ziggler is in my top three favorite wrestlers right now. His matches are usually solid, he sells well, he's above average on the mic and has a unique look. However, that doesn't stop him from being very overrated at times. There's been times when I see people posting about how Dolph should be pushed to the moon or should be on Cena's level. He really shouldn't without some more growth.

Next is Zack Ryder for obvious reasons. He's a fine wrestler but he's midcard material. Push the guy but don't overpush the guy.

Last, Evan Bourn. OMGZ HEZ GOT 10,000 MOVEZ AND THA WWE ONLY LETZ HIM UZE 88. I can't count how many times I've heard that. Ok maybe it's just one guy that keeps repeating that but Evan Bourne isn't the best thing going today. He's got a solid moveset and is more than capable of carrying a midcard title, but any higher and I call bulshit. Moves do not make wrestlers. If Evan can grow about five inches then I'd be glad to see him win a World Title.
Honorable Mention to Kevin Nash. He's a complete fucking turd, and nothing you can post about him or show me will change this. He's past his expiration date, the one from when WCW went under.

That's utter horse shit. I challenge you to name five people on WrestleZone who even give two shits about Kevin Nash? If anything, it's people like you who underrate him. He gets so much shit from the IWC for being "in bad shape" and a "horrible wrestler" when in reality, he is no different from all the other 7 foot, 300 pound big men from WWE's past.
 
WWE:
1. Alberto Del Rio- the guy is one of the worst wwe champions in history. thats only because they decided to give him the title when he had least heat. Should have put it on him at extreme rules. his armbreaker finisher is awful, as is the stupid kick he did to beat punk at SS. mic skills awful seeing as u can't hear a word he says.

2. Sin Cara- poor man's Rey Mysterio. all he has is the head scissors take down and springboard moves.

3. Evan Bourne- only thing he's got is the shooting star which was better when Billy Kidman used to do it. never be more than a mid card title holder or tag team champion.

TNA:
1. Crimson- the streak needs to end. he needs to turn heel. he needs to do something interesting. he is a physical phenom but he's not that exciting to watch in the ring.

2. Jeff Hardy- how many chances does this guy get!? he got more than he earned in wwe with 3 world titles. how he still has a job in TNA is beyond me, and guaranteed he'll be their champion again within a year.

3. James Storm- he had his sympathy moment. he won't win the title again, i hope.
 
Im going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the people saying Zack Ryder is Overrated are the same ones who think Daniel Bryan is one of the best WWE superstars (ie stuffy idiots)
 
2 - The Rock. The attitude era is over, and the relics from that era need to go away. He should stick to Hollywood and away from the WWE. The expectation is so high, and so far we haven't seen anything worthwhile from him. He's been in the spot light since his return, and it still hasn't paid off. If the build up is for WM28, why is our time being wasted by him right now? Again he's a legend, but hes from and for a different time. These days, he doesn't fit.

French Kiss we all know u hate the rock but most of what u say doesnt even warrant a lot...

Secondly, the rocks face off with r truth and miz alongside cena while simultaneously taking jabs at cena was more interesting than any cena promo, del rio promo, orton promo, mark henry promo, big show promo, hhh and nash promo and as of late cm punk promo in a long long long time....

Thirdly, the rock is not a full time wrestler and nor is he overrated because hes just rated perfectly by the IWC. One of the biggest names in hollywood and the wwe who was the best promo cutter of all time coming back for a few nights simply to raise buyrates... Thats how hes rated by the IWC and thats the complete truth...

As for his in ring performance I guess wel see on sunday wont wee.


Back on topic, the most overrated IMO in the WWE right now are the top 3 faces of the WWE, Cena, Orton and Punk. Honorable mentions to Del Rio and Mason Ryan...

Cena. His promo work is sloppy and his in ring skills are only good when he feels like it. The man can put on the best match of the night if hes in a good mood.

Orton. The I'm bad and i only care about myself but im portraying a face thing can only last for so long. Stone Cold pulled it off very very good but ORton cant. Orton is the type of guy who works better with minions like Dibiase and Rhodes who at a time were way more relevant than they are now. His in ring work is just ok. People tend to overrate his in ring work because of his slender movement which is confused for technical prowess. His promos sound the same each and every time.

Punk. The best in the WWE right now but NOT the best in the world. Good in ring work and good promo skills but once again not the best the WWE has seen and hopefully ever will. Hes the most interesting in the WWE for a while but thats about it.

Since i just named the top 3 draw of the WWE il just throw out who i like the msot as well.

Punk, Miz and R Truth. Yeah i know i said punk was overrated but it doesnt mean hes not the best thing in the WWE right now. Miz and R Truth. I liked Truth even before his heel turn but he wasnt my top pick. Now Miz and Truth bring something to the table that when the time is right can be funny and can be serious... Both are good in the ring and both are good on the mic. Just here miz and truth against the Rock. How many people do u know who have been able to go head to head in a promo battle with the rock. Not a lot.
 
3. Undertaker
2. HBK
1. Ric Flair

All for the same reason. "Because they're the best thing ever to enter the ring." Seriously? I used to really really like these guys, but the ballwashing has got to stop. They're good, hell, they're great, but they're not perfect (no, that's not a reference I'm trying to make to say Curt Hennig was better). All of them have their ups and their downs. They've made stupid mistakes and ruined things for future generations, or for themselves, and I sure as hell don't see how any one of them is any better or worse than Hogan, Warrior, Goldberg, or Cena IE the IWC's anti-heroes.

If they're your favorite ever, that's cool, I get it. If all three of them are your top three, I might secretly think of you as an unoriginal bandwagon hopping lemming, but you're entitled to that opinion. But then you go on to attack others who enjoy Hogan, Warrior, Goldberg, and/or Cena and try and make it sound as if these guys were somehow inferior at entertaining the masses because they did it differently. Really? Why because there weren't elitist pigs like the Vince McMahon marks that think that unless you're a multi-generational life-long fan you're somehow inferior?

But this isn't about the guys the ICW crap on, it's about how hypocritical the IWC is in regards to the guys they DO enjoy. There is nothing from a fans perspective that separates HBK, Taker, Punk, Austin, & Ric Flair from Hogan, Warrior, Goldberg, & John Cena.

The point is, there are guys, particularly HBK, Taker, & Flair that the IWC seems to think never does, has never, nor ever will do wrong. Yet they're every bit as guilty of crimes equivalent to those of the IWC's anti-heros.
 

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