The *Official* John Cena Thread

[Rusty]

well, well, well, I't looks like i stuck a nerve with the cena is god crowd...
i meant, if he hits the 5-K-S, every1 knows the next few moves, no one ever reverses that lame powerbomb, its over PERIOD. when was the last time randy orton did his stomping on the body parts/his killer backbreaker/RKO all in one fluid motion(without his opponent getting the upper hand for a least a moment) and won the match??? when was the last time cena didnt??

Nah, Cena isn't God silly. He is better than God himself.

Lame powerbomb!? You mean the Prototype, because that is nothing like a powerbomb. He usually hits the 5 knuffle shuffle half way through his match. And he hardly ever does all his signature moves in one fluid motion, except for the match against Chavo Guerrero which was purposely a squash match. CM Punk does his bulldog and his other signature moves too at the end of the match. In fact, over 80% of the WWE roster does, but just blame it all on one man, who has no booking control whatsoever

if you didnt notice it took a codebreaker/619/spear to pin THE GREAT AND HOLY JOHN CENA... now on the subject of putting people over...maybe he doenst need to put people over, but it would be nice for him to lose the title without WWE having to figure a way screw him out of it, without him losing to regular/finishing moves like the rest of the WWE.

there is my opinon, feel free to twist my words, it most likley makes you feel like a big man,

Well he was fresh in the match and he was the World Champion, so taking 3 finishers was only fitting. None of them were any "devastating" finishers anyway. So Cena should lose the title in a different way to everyone else? Um, why should he? How else would he lose the title, by a freaking rollup? If he does lose by a rollup, it makes his opponents look like shit since they can't beat him without getting a lucky rollup which apparently goes against your idea of Cena never losing properly.

And I don't need to twist your words, I'm just faulting your posts.

 

[RatedRFan]

WOW! you really love him dont you?
where did you get roll-up? god/cena what ever your fan club is calling him these days cant lose to a roll-up, come on.
you wouldnt expect chris jericho to lose to a firemans carry would you? oh wait... ever1 loses to that glorified firemans carry/FU
at least do the death vally driver.

wow, all it took was a post talking about my feelings about john cena to change that green box to red. i guess john cena doesn't just rule the wwe, he rules wz too? thats some crooked shit. i'll get spamed for this post, cause i talked about the greatest thing since sliced bread John Cena

 

[Rusty]

WOW! you really love him dont you?
where did you get roll-up? god/cena what ever your fan club is calling him these days cant lose to a roll-up, come on.
you wouldnt expect chris jericho to lose to a firemans carry would you? oh wait... ever1 loses to that glorified firemans carry/FU
at least do the death vally driver.

What fan club are you talking about? It's just me and you, it has nothing to do with anyone else.

Hulk Hogan used a leg drop as a finisher, Rey Mysterio uses a 619, and Edge uses a frickin spear. All of them don't look devasting, but it's wrestling, it's meant to be fake and all finishers are fairly "strong" nowadays. Cena's finisher is good, especially for larger guys. I'm pretty sure you couldn't lift the Big Show over your shoulders. The Attitude Adjuster may not look devastating, but it's not meant to be because most finishers aren't.

wow, all it took was a post talking about my feelings about john cena to change that green box to red. i guess john cena doesn't just rule the wwe, he rules wz too? thats some crooked shit. i'll get spamed for this post, cause i talked about the greatest thing since sliced bread John Cena

I didn't red rep you, so don't involve other people. It's just a lame excuse for avoiding the argument. John Cena rules Wrestlezone? A year ago, I would have gotten red repped 3 times for every time I defended John Cena. The Forum used to be very anti-Cena. So once again, I fail to see your point.

John Cena is the top dog for a reason, and you just don't want to admit it.

 

[Crush1]

John Cena the man with a lot of controversy. Someone who is being praised as by many as being the ''best of the best'' and being depicted by others as a ''failure'' or ''annoying wrestler''. It's safe to say that John Cena is the type of guy that the WWE can trust and rely upon, yet some fans dislike the way he's being ''pushed down our throats''. Well my fellow IWC I would like to share my opinion on the matter of wether John Cena is the best or the worst.

Let's start with his popularity. Cena is arguably the most popular wrestler in the WWE and the current ideal model of how the WWE wants the media and the outside world too look upon professional wrestling. He has been credited as a work horse that does whatever his employer asks of him, the ideal worker. Free of steroids, a nice guy image and most important very popular and known with teenagers. Why do you think that Cena is this popular if
A) you think he's worthless or
B) You like him a lot.

If you chose A you're most likely to be an internet wrestling fan. Someone who checks the results of a tv taping before it happens, someone who thinks that he knows everything about the inside and outside of this business. You're most likely to answer this question by saying that either John Cena kisses too much ass or that's because he's friends with Vince Mcmahon.

If you chose B You're most likely to be 20% Smark and 80% Mark. A mark is, (This is in my own words, dont agree with me? Debate!) someone who knows wrestling is fake, he or she doesn't care what happens backstage and simply just wants to be entertained. Or and individual who thinks that the events that occur in wrestling are real and not staged, these fans are mostly children. You're answer is most likely to be that John Cena simply is the best wrestler because he does such good stuff or that he's cool, smart, good looking and you just want to be like him.

The fact of the matter is my fellow IWC that YOU only make a small percentage of the audience and all of the things you think you know about professional wrestling and John Cena (Including me because nobody is perfect) is irrelevant to the ''real'' audience, the creative team and most importantly Vince Mcmahon. You might think Cena sucks or you might like him the fact is that whatever it is, it doesn't matter.

Now I want to adress with you if you're still with me, what it is that makes John Cena the top guy in the WWE. I for one think it's because of his charisma. This man has the ability to entertain complete masses just because of his charisma. If the creative team were to give Cena another gimmick now I think, that he would be able to pull it off like all the things he can do. But if you're not a Cena fan I understand, you're entitled to you're own opinion. Hell even I was one of those so called Cena haters, I was ignorant and despised John Cena. The reason for that was, because I thought that he would never lose a match and that Vince wanted to shove him down my throat. But friends I digress.

John Cena also has a great in-ring style, people always miscredit him for having not too many moves, if that were so then why are so many people standing when Cena has a match. Why is it that whenever Cena wrestles he get's reaction good or bad? That his oponnents always look good and that the wrestlers he faces never get injured? Now my fellow IWC THAT is the special ''IT'' that Cena has. He's able to make a crowd eat from the palm of his hands by just his in-ring skills only.

Now for the finishing move I would like to add some experiences of my own of how I went from a Cena hater to a Cena fan. The thing is when I just got into pro wrestling I didn't know a lot better, I always used to think that what the internet told me was the truth and maybe you think that too. When I saw that people bashed Cena I was inclined to join the into bashing Cena but once I started to stop reading the internet bullshit and just simply watch the reaction of the crowd and Cena's work with my own eyes, instead of reading results from the internet I decided that this guy just really owned. I learned that the things the IWC told me were all fake and absolutely farfetched. And I would advise YOU to do the same. Remember this, once you start stereotyping a wrestler from the internet instead of just watching him weeky you're just being a smarky smark. Stay away from pro wrestling sites for a while and see why Cena is so loved by so many fans alike.

 

[RatedRFan]

I dont consider myself a John Cena mark,smark/smarky or any variation of the word. i wish that i could voice my opinion without someone telling me my ideas/thought are shitty(rusty!)
yes i know this is a forum and everyone has a right to their opinion, but i dont spend my free time thinking of ways to shit on other peoples posts.

I to was once a Cena fan, right about when he got drafted to raw, it was awesome! he was fresh, hip and very appealing to the younger crowd. he had that "edginess" with the rapping, great style(when he still wore jerseys,chains, and the word life knucks) i dont know why i lost interest in him as a wrestler, but my best idea is...
many of you remember that he was the champ for 22 out of 24 months!
thats 22 ppv's where he came out on top, keeping the title.(dont start the hogan era debate) imagine a superstar that you dont really care for, say mvp if you wanted him to drop the title, and you bought all the ppv's for a 2 year span wanting to see mvp lose, yet mvp is on a roll, beating former undefeated wrestlers (at the time)like umaga and great khali like he is on a whole different level than every1 else . thats 22 out of 24 $40 ppvs that you end up very disapointed.

We all know he is a work horse/model wrestler, and all his hard work SHOULD HAVE and did get him to the top. But on the same hand, i dont like that he seemed to be on a whole different level than other very hard working wrestlers. Im sure they grew up wanting to be a WWE superstar too.

I dont mind John Cena the wrestler,
I just dont want him involved in 95%of championship matches. He needs other great superstars to really compete with, Think about how HHH, The Rock, and Stone Cold all kinda kept switching the title back and forth.
Let him get into a long fued with some heel ME'er out of the title picture, and im sure that he'd get less boo's
heel shane anyone?(he could use guys like mike knox/kane/mark henry as his enforcers)

While there are things that i would change about him, the same could be said about ANY WWE Superstar.
I wish that he could just get that "edginess" that drew a lot of people in..... I wish that he could make his moves just that little bit more "violent/rougher" think william regal(yeah, i know he sucks, we all know he is rough as hell, droping everyone on the back of their head/neck).

A john Cena Mark wouldn't say that The Marine WWE studios greatest movie, and am looking forward to an awesome looking movie "12 Rounds"
Please no more bad reps cause i dont like Cena the Champ, because
John Cena the wrestler/actor/ isnt all that bad

 

[Rusty]

I dont consider myself a John Cena mark,smark/smarky or any variation of the word. i wish that i could voice my opinion without someone telling me my ideas/thought are shitty(rusty!)
yes i know this is a forum and everyone has a right to their opinion, but i dont spend my free time thinking of ways to shit on other peoples posts.

You're making stuff up, dude. I never once said your opinion was shitty and you have no proof of that. I'm just debating with you in a Forum, which is the whole damn purpose of Wrestlezone Forums.

I to was once a Cena fan, right about when he got drafted to raw, it was awesome! he was fresh, hip and very appealing to the younger crowd. he had that "edginess" with the rapping, great style(when he still wore jerseys,chains, and the word life knucks) i dont know why i lost interest in him as a wrestler, but my best idea is...
many of you remember that he was the champ for 22 out of 24 months!
thats 22 ppv's where he came out on top, keeping the title.(dont start the hogan era debate) imagine a superstar that you dont really care for, say mvp if you wanted him to drop the title, and you bought all the ppv's for a 2 year span wanting to see mvp lose, yet mvp is on a roll, beating former undefeated wrestlers (at the time)like umaga and great khali like he is on a whole different level than every1 else . thats 22 out of 24 $40 ppvs that you end up very disapointed.

If you didn't realize, he didn't defend his title 22 times during his long reign. It was probably just over half of that. His long reign was in 2006/2007. What year is it now? Over 2 years since that, and you're still complaining about it? The title reign was one of the most entertaining in years, and he didn't have a bad match at all during that reign, even his match with the Great Khali was decent. And Cena IS on a whole different level to everyone else.

We all know he is a work horse/model wrestler, and all his hard work SHOULD HAVE and did get him to the top. But on the same hand, i dont like that he seemed to be on a whole different level than other very hard working wrestlers. Im sure they grew up wanting to be a WWE superstar too.

But Cena is the top draw of the company. He did something that very few have accomplished. He is in the elite few with guys such as Stone Cold and Hulk Hogan. The reason that sets Cena apart from everybody else is that he is living his dream, others are still in dreamland.

I dont mind John Cena the wrestler,
I just dont want him involved in 95%of championship matches. He needs other great superstars to really compete with, Think about how HHH, The Rock, and Stone Cold all kinda kept switching the title back and forth.
Let him get into a long fued with some heel ME'er out of the title picture, and im sure that he'd get less boo's
heel shane anyone?(he could use guys like mike knox/kane/mark henry as his enforcers)

What!? You complained about Cena's moves and the series in which he produces his finishing moves, but now you say you don't mind him? I'm confused by this.

The same could be said for Triple H and Edge, the current World Champions. Why not diss them instead of Cena? You're dissing a 4 time World Champion over a 13 and a 8 time World Champion. Cena needs to constantly be in the main event picture because people want to see him there. He is very popular and is the best in the company, so why have him wrestle mid-carders when he is more than worthy to compete against the main eventers.

While there are things that i would change about him, the same could be said about ANY WWE Superstar.
I wish that he could just get that "edginess" that drew a lot of people in..... I wish that he could make his moves just that little bit more "violent/rougher" think william regal(yeah, i know he sucks, we all know he is rough as hell, droping everyone on the back of their head/neck).

Cena appeals to children. It's a fact. If he does become edgier, the younger fans might not like him as much which would be a shame seeing as Cena's role is basically to appeal to children. Also, Regal botches half his moves which is why they look rougher.

A john Cena Mark wouldn't say that The Marine WWE studios greatest movie, and am looking forward to an awesome looking movie "12 Rounds"
Please no more bad reps cause i dont like Cena the Champ, because
John Cena the wrestler/actor/ isnt all that bad

The movie he was in was fairly decent actually. And I gave you red rep because you have me red rep first. You're entitled to your opinion, but so am I which is why I'm disagreeing with you.

 

[The Todd]

John Cena is the best in the industry and there is no denying it at all. He is the biggest draw in the company, he gets the best pops from 95% of the crowd every week (in this day and age it is nigh on impossible to get 100% heat for a heel or face, unless you are Vickie Guerrero) and he sells the most merchandise which is EXTREMELY important for the WWE in the current economic situation.

Arguing that he is in the main event too much is stupid. He HAS to be in the main event all the time. If he's not PPV rates wouldn't be as high and interest in him would go down. As for him getting shoved down out throats, bollocks. When was the last time on RAW he was involved in the last part of the show? His title feud with JBL was more about HBK vs JBL than Cena, he was a sideshow. Plus this segment never closed out the show. If you look at the last month or two of RAW, Randy Orton has ALWAYS closed out the show yet no one complains about him being shoved down our throats.

Look at Edge on Smackdown recently, it has been all about him ever since the Royal Rumble, even though the big story coming out of it was Jeff vs Matt, put this has taken a side show to Edge. At NWO, after HHH won the first chamber, Edge appeared in the backstage segments, then he went in the RAW EC, and the story was Mysterio vs Edge, Cena was forgotten. Nobody complained Edge was shoved down our throats.

Wrestling always has, and always will, be a story of good vs evil. At this time, the WWE has never had a better set of evil characters, but it suffers from having very few outstanding good guys. Cena is the top good guy, the one the fans put their hope into. How he can be critisised for this is beyond me. It is good for business when he wins the title from the bad guy.

Look at my screen name, I am obviously a big fan of The Rated R Superstar, but if he goes up against Cena at Mania, Cena HAS to win and I will be happy if he does, because it is the right thing to do for the company.

 

[Rusty]

Look at Edge on Smackdown recently, it has been all about him ever since the Royal Rumble, even though the big story coming out of it was Jeff vs Matt, put this has taken a side show to Edge. At NWO, after HHH won the first chamber, Edge appeared in the backstage segments, then he went in the RAW EC, and the story was Mysterio vs Edge, Cena was forgotten. Nobody complained Edge was shoved down our throats.

^^^ Listen to this man's post. Nobody ever complains about Randy Orton and Edge always ending Raw and Smackdown respectively. Nobody. But if Cena does, people bitch about it. It's something that I will never understand.

And after watching Smackdown this week, something caught my attention. You know how people use the same old argument that "John Cena never loses", well, I believe he lost cleanly via pinfall against the Big Show, who hasn't beaten anyone of note for a long time. Sure, Edge interfered but he didn't attack Cena at all. John Cena gave the Big Show an Attitude Adjustment, and he still lost.

So for all you Cena haters, what do you have to say about that? I thought John Cena never loses but he's lost to HBK and Big Show within the past 6 weeks. Both of which should be putting over the younger Cena. And using the "Cena is always in the title picture" argument is completely invalid if you are an Edge fan, because they are equally in the World Heavyweight Title picture.

 

[nthomas504]

John Cena HAS to win at Wrestlemania, i don't believe that Cena and Orton are ready to have their legandary feud that i'm hoping for. Edge and Cena are virtually meant to feud. Both the top performers on their brands(Besides Randy, Trips). Since his first wrestlemania appearance, he has not lose in a singles competition. Wat I can imagine happening is that Cena will do something that will ahve him banned from the match, but he will get back into in on one condition, TLC Match for whc. Cena regains title and have it set up til summerslam similar to wat happen with Undertaker and Edge last year. Later in the year, Cena and Randy start to fight, and there you have it, we have our main event next year.

 

[RatedRKO39]

i'm saying this RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW... Cena losses at Mania and then gets drafted to Smackdown to contuine the feud with Edge and Vickie

 

[DD84]

Cena will win the WHC then get drafted to Smackdown continue his feud with Edge and Vickie. Hopefully he will then drop it to MVP

 

[slugger9954]

i dont know why some people complain about john cena getting long title reigns...the WWE is a business and they will put over who sells. the reason the WWE puts john cena over so much is because he gets a reaction out of everybody. no matter who you are or what you do, you have an opinion on john cena. WWE=JOHN CENA

 

[slimmshady]

While I was watching the last promo from monday night raw of Cena, I couldn't help to notice that he has recently been getting a large pop from the crowd. It's been happening constantly for the past 2-3 weeks. It's like suddenly, the old boring face Cena has disappeared and we're getting a different side to him even though he is still face. Has anyone noticed this too?

 

[PDecicco]

He's going against Vickie and Edge, who arguably are the most over heels in the WWE. Vickie needs nothing more than to say Excuse Me and she draws more heat than an entire roster. Edge is just as good, he can make you absolutely despise him.

Putting a guy against Cena against a paring if Edge and Vickit is of course going make Cena instanly even more over than he already was.

When you take a guy who fans love too boo and take a guy who is pushed as a mega face (even if he was getting mixed reactions) he's gonna seem like the ultimate hero.

I fully expect that after this feud with Edge he'll go back to being 60/40 when it comes to cheers/boos.

Personally I like Cena and he entertains me. I might've come across as bit anti-Cena in as much as i basically said he's only over because of Edge. But truly, I'm not. I just think he's only super over like the WWE wants when he's against a mega heel.

 

[The Todd]

Orrr maybe you are living two years ago, cos Cena has been getting steadily good pops from the crowd since then. Maybe this last few weeks you have been marking out for Cena? Cos the rest of us real fans have been for ages. Cena IS the WWE and the sooner all fans realises this the better.

 

[DJ-LyRiX]

Nobody ever complains about Randy Orton and Edge always ending Raw and Smackdown respectively. Nobody. But if Cena does, people bitch about it. It's something that I will never understand.

And after watching Smackdown this week, something caught my attention. You know how people use the same old argument that "John Cena never loses", well, I believe he lost cleanly via pinfall against the Big Show, who hasn't beaten anyone of note for a long time. Sure, Edge interfered but he didn't attack Cena at all. John Cena gave the Big Show an Attitude Adjustment, and he still lost.

So for all you Cena haters, what do you have to say about that? I thought John Cena never loses but he's lost to HBK and Big Show within the past 6 weeks. Both of which should be putting over the younger Cena. And using the "Cena is always in the title picture" argument is completely invalid if you are an Edge fan, because they are equally in the World Heavyweight Title picture.

Couldn't agree with you more.

As has been said, Cena draws more than anyone in the entire industry right now. Merchandise, mainstream fame, etc. This is what the WWE needs right now. A stable, reliable star to build their company around.

Also, with regards to Cena's "lack of wrestling ability" etc., I suggest you go on YouTube and search for his match with RVD at One Night Stand 2006.

The crowd were going mental at Cena, it's the craziest atmosphere I would guess he's ever worked. He worked as a heel, and threw in some moves we don't really see from him that often. That match told a great story, and, despite there being no harder fans to please than hardcore ECW fans, they went from shouting "You Can't Wrestle" to "You Still Suck" when he did something different. This is (SORT OF!!!) proof that these fans recognised Cena's ability somewhat.

 

[shafe_41]

There's been lots of stones thrown and names called in another thread that kind of got off topic because I said Cena's ring skills were terrible and his matches are about as much fun as watching grass grow while you poke yourself in the eyes with a sharp stick...repeatedly. Now am I the only one that thinks Cena's ring skills are just god awful? His same 5-7 moves, in the same order, every match. Now it comes to mind for me personally... that Cena was put in the last WM and now this year's WM in a triple threat match because him not selling the leg with his match with HBK at WM23 shows he can't be trusted by himself in a main event on the biggest stage of the year. That opinion might be a little out there, but it's just a thought. Cena's WM matches are awful. No it's not all his fault because one was a triple threat match, and his other opponents in god awful matches were Big Show, and JBL. But JBL wasn't the WWE Champion for 9 months because he sucked either. WWE was at a pretty low point and to have JBL carry that title as a heel for 9 months, he had to be doing something right. I digress...

I called Cena undeserving which was probably the wrong choice of words, because he is a workhorse, a promo machine, and etc... But none of that can save you in the ring, which... believe it or not... is where WRESTLING takes place. Sure Cena can take a bump and yadda yadda yadda, but he's got the skills of LT at WM 11. He's the Hogan of today. Face of the company, loved by everyone under 16 which is where Vince is aiming I guess now with the PG rating and whatnot. But who else agrees that yes even though Cena is a main event talent and great face for the company, that his ring skills are that of a drunk Andre the Giant.

 

[klunderbunker]

Put simply: of course he can. Questions like these make my head hurt. If Cena couldn't wrestle, he wouldn't be out there. His offense is limited because it makes his comebacks look more epic. Think of Hulk Hogan. His offense was just as limited but we've all heard the arguments about his work in Japan which is absolutely true. I've seen Cena's indy stuff and it's far from what you see today. Cena can wrestle but he's not booked that way. Do you really believe that he doesn't know other moves than that? Of course he can wrestle.

 

[The Todd]

Klunder is spot on. Of course he can.

You have to take into account as well that like it or not pro wrestling is entertainment not amateur wrestling. Cena is top babyface, his job is to entertain, which is getting beaten up for the whole match, then out of nowhere, hit some offence, his signature moves, and win/be cheated out of it. Cena does this better than anyone. That is his in ring job, that is what he does. So yes, Cena can wrestle.

 

[Lil Wes]

Care to explain why these have all been good to great matches over the past two years?

The Umaga match, whenever it was. I forgot. It's still one of, if not the best LMS match I've seen.

HBK vs Cena - WM 23

HBK vs Cena - That one RAW match that lasted an hour.

Lashley vs Cena - GAB 07

Orton vs Cena - SummerSlam 07

HHH vs Cena - NOC 08

Batista vs Cena - SummerSlam 08

He had one on one matches with Jericho at Survivor Series and Armageddon. Never seen them. Probably good though.

^^ I might have forgotten some. I left out anything that wasn't one on one (the other main events including multiple people were still good though...), and the JBL matches which were bad IMO. I'd put that list of good matches up against anyone in the company. I hated him too and bashed him for his work, but that's old now. Since 07 he's clearly proved he can work good-great matches. His promos are still shit though

 

[agentmichaelscarn]

Of course he can, in fact he is one of the best on the roster. I'm no Cena mark at all but I still enjoy just about all of his matches, they all tell a great story. He is alot like Hogan in the aspect that he always has you and the live audience in the palm of his hand. His matches always have a reaction, which shows people are into them and ultimately that shows that he is putting on good matches. If his matches were terrible people would be sitting on their hands or taking a bathroom break but that's not the case with Cena and it wasn't the case with Hogan.

 

[8five]

I think the point is that Cena can wrestle but these days he doesnt. My true problem with Cena's in ring game is that he oversells and then 2 seconds later he pulls off the 5-6 moves of doom. It isn't his fault though, its how his character is booked, i wish it was a little more believable though. There was a match not long ago that someone worked over his shoulder for the whole match, he was shaking it and selling some form of nerve damage, then about 90 seconds later he had hit all his key moves one the match and raised his arms up. This imo is his biggest flaw

 

[shafe_41]

I guess that is true that Cena wouldn't be out there if he couldn't wrestle. I grew up spoiled watching wrestling I guess because being born in 1984, I was too young to see a lot of Hogan's matches other than the DVD anthologies of SS and WM I own and then his numerous combacks in WWE and his WCW work. I grew up watching HBK and Bret Hart's rise to their greatness. And as I hit my teenage years, WWE hit the attitude era. It was just all really a perfect storm for me to see a lot of great ring action paired with a lot of great promo work and such. (Omitting the really dry spots of WWE when Diesel and King Mabel headlined ppvs.)

I guess I have to learn to take it for what it is and that Cena's ring work is not going to change anytime soon. Again, being spoiled with Bret Hart, HBK, Austin, The Rock... hell even Ultimate Warrior and Randy Savage, and the best to ever enter the business...Kurt Angle, is a treat. Just really being able to see a lot of great talent at one time and makes you appriciate those older matches where there was a little less promo and a lot more great ring action. I guess I'm just annoyed a little when the top guy in the company has the least entertaining matches. I've said before that I don't enjoy Cena's 1-hour bore-fest with HBK on Raw. I don't enjoy their match at WM23 because Cena didn't sell the leg. He got a lot of heat for that from what I heard and if I can even pick that out while I was watching live, that says something. I will give him the fact that while I enjoy when he's out of action (I don't wish injuries on him but it's a nice change of pace for Raw), Raw really isn't the same without him.

 

[swanton360]

like about everyone else on here, yes he can wrestle. in an interview, kurt angle even acknowledged Cena in his first match. he is booked as a brawler and that's what he is best at.
he's had some great matches:
vs Triple H at WM 22
vs Triple H vs Edge
vs Triple H at NOC
vs HBK at WM 23 and RAW
vs Orton
vs Edge (basically all of their matches are good)

Cena can wrestle and he has some pretty good matches under his belt

 

[HBK-aholic]

"Cena can't wrestle" comes from people thinking solely about the technical side of wrestling - which admittedly isn't the greatest for Cena. However, the WWE isn't amateur wrestling, it's professional wrestling. There's a reason it's called World Wrestling Entertainment (Yano, apart from those animal saving bastards suing). There's a reason McMahon is keen for us to call them entertainers as oposed to wrestlers.

Cena entertains a huge majority of fans, he's arguably the next Hogan. Personally? Yeah I can't stand the guy. His promos bore me and he hasn't ahd that many great matches. But that's just my opinion. The facts speak for themselves, the majority of fans disagree with me and think he's entertaining, and that's what makes him a great wrestler.