The Macca Thread - For Everything Macca Related

[future admin]

The Croydon area, how come?

I lived in Adelaide for the better part of my life, you know the Lockleys area?

 

[Viola Moonlight]

Damn Macca, great posts mate.

One thing though, the Million Dollar Championship. With the whole "unifying the championships" idea hitting the air and being considered, wouldn't they keep DiBiase carrying that title around for a while until the mid-card titles go before they allow him to defend it? No point at this moment to have a fifth championship being actively defended, especially when Ted hasn't been involved in a proper feud yet and is practically coasting the mid-card scene (thanks to the breast implants of Maryse).

 

[Macca]

The last man standing match shouldn't have been something to stop the Wrestlemania match, or make it any less interesting. There's many many different variations of hardcore matches after all. I quit could've been possibly, another Last Man Standing, or simply a no holds barred match. All of them would've made some kind of sense, but I think the no holds barred would've been the better one.

And sure the ending was a little bit bullshit. But it still made a little bit of sense, the referee being down and it was obvious it was the chance for Triple H to release the tension he had, to get that bit of vengeance. But the sledgehammer wasn't needed no.

But I still don't think it ruined the match, as much as the stipulations. Could've been a great match just as well had it been a simple singles match with a clean victory in the end.

I used the last man standing match as an example of the knock-'em-down, drag-'em-out battles that HHH and Randy had in them, the same kind of match that they were going for. Orton should have been inflicting a lot more punishment, after all the time and effort they had gone to making people believe Randy Orton was on a whole other level of vile behaviour then ever before, so the person watching would believe that was likely to be The Viper's night, and that HHH had not fought a demented Randy like this before, and perhaps was not prepared for such. Also, at least one McMahon should have an appearance, seeing as this whole fued stemmed from their family. Perhaps having Stephanie run down to try and rouse her husband to his feet, then while Orton set his sights on her, Hunter could regain his bearings, have a few more back and forth exchanges, a few more finishers executed, before having HHH hit the punt on Orton, and take it home from there. Perhaps this match would suffice, say, at Backlash. However, when you're on the biggest card of the year, in the main event, for the biggest prize in wrestling, it was their responibility to go out as the two biggest stars in the company and deliver. And they didn't, with or without HBK-Taker on the card as well.

Of course. No problem about making the best show possible, but it was still good, it still delivered on some points. Not everything can be the best, because it's hard to top every time. Something has to give for the others to be judged a little bit better. This weeks RAW submitted itself to having one of the other episodes come off a bit better.

I agree, not every match has to be the best, but it didn't seem like they were even trying to put in any effort to try and make it a special event. Take for example, the Diva's match. And Melina's partner was... Eve Torres. Perhaps if they announced that the week earlier, and not leave it to the fans to ponder for one week who the mystery partner was, perhaps the fans would be so disappointed.

Yeah, and it's a shame. But really Undertaker doesn't look like half the person he did back before he left. He seems like he lost a bit of color, and he just looks generally more dried out than he used to. It's kinda sad actually.

Don't worry, that's him just getting back into his tanning routines. He should be looking deep fried enough for you at NoC.

Oh yeah definitely. It could've made for a very interesting thing, however it wouldn't have made that much sense because Wade interrupted the Bret / Undertaker match, not Undertaker / Kane.

The only minor part that hurt the whole segment was the fact that Undertaker held off the 5 Nexus members pretty well. Especially considering I'm sure those 5 members could easily take down Cena if he had been in that situation. It made Undertaker (in a weak state mind you) look superior to a fully strengthened faction of 5 people that recently "trimmed the fat".

I have to say that I wasn't too happy about Nexus having to drop everything to look bad against Taker, after they've shouting from the rooftops that Taker's not at 100 per cent. Again, poor booking from creative, they had the excuse they needed for Nexus kicking chucks out of the Deadman.

 

[Macca]

I lived in Adelaide for the better part of my life, you know the Lockleys area?

Nah man, what other areas is it near?

 

[Macca]

Damn Macca, great posts mate.

One thing though, the Million Dollar Championship. With the whole "unifying the championships" idea hitting the air and being considered, wouldn't they keep DiBiase carrying that title around for a while until the mid-card titles go before they allow him to defend it? No point at this moment to have a fifth championship being actively defended, especially when Ted hasn't been involved in a proper feud yet and is practically coasting the mid-card scene (thanks to the breast implants of Maryse).

But that's the thing though, it's a mid card title, hell it's not any official title, it's a prop exclusive to DiBiase to get himself, and nobody else over. And yet it may as well be invisible because he never takes offers from other wrestlers to have matches for it, hell, you'll be lucky if it's even brought up in fueds. DiBiase is lucky he even has that belt, who else has their own championship exclusively made for them.

Look at how his dad used it. He always placed emphasis on the belt, defended it against guys like Virgil and Jake Roberts, and it helped catapult him into fueds with Hogan and alliances with Andre.

Also, if I'm right, and Maryse is single, he needs to go Edge/Lita all over that shit. At this stage in his career, it would be a godsend.

 

[Ferbian]

I used the last man standing match as an example of the knock-'em-down, drag-'em-out battles that HHH and Randy had in them, the same kind of match that they were going for. Orton should have been inflicting a lot more punishment, after all the time and effort they had gone to making people believe Randy Orton was on a whole other level of vile behaviour then ever before, so the person watching would believe that was likely to be The Viper's night, and that HHH had not fought a demented Randy like this before, and perhaps was not prepared for such.

Yeah I know. Overall the match was fine, but there were definitely something missing though. The ending didn't do it justice though, but it still wasn't warranted to be called completely shit.

But I get the whole deal that people constantly seem to throw around "Why would he retain, if he looses it at Backlash anyway?"

Also, at least one McMahon should have an appearance, seeing as this whole fued stemmed from their family. Perhaps having Stephanie run down to try and rouse her husband to his feet, then while Orton set his sights on her, Hunter could regain his bearings, have a few more back and forth exchanges, a few more finishers executed, before having HHH hit the punt on Orton, and take it home from there. Perhaps this match would suffice, say, at Backlash. However, when you're on the biggest card of the year, in the main event, for the biggest prize in wrestling, it was their responibility to go out as the two biggest stars in the company and deliver. And they didn't, with or without HBK-Taker on the card as well.

I was surprised there were no McMahon involvement at Wrestlemania 25. It would've definitely made sense in some manner. Teddy and Cody wasn't on the card, and the McMahon's weren't on the card. Why the hell couldn't either one of them have been given some kind of ringside role? I guess it would've ruined a bit of the stipulation given, but at least it would've given a slightly better feeling.

There's always something nice about a McMahon present at Wrestlemania, even this year.

I agree, not every match has to be the best, but it didn't seem like they were even trying to put in any effort to try and make it a special event. Take for example, the Diva's match. And Melina's partner was... Eve Torres. Perhaps if they announced that the week earlier, and not leave it to the fans to ponder for one week who the mystery partner was, perhaps the fans would be so disappointed.

Yeah sure. But they still managed to further storylines and feuds, which should be the primary focus of every wrestling program. The Pay Per Views is obviously for the bigger material.

Also the divas division is pretty much just a clusterfuck. The only good thing going on is LayCool and Maryse's entrance. I can only hope they let LayCool win the unification match.

Don't worry, that's him just getting back into his tanning routines. He should be looking deep fried enough for you at NoC.

Haha. Let's hope mate. He needs to regain this kind of look.

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Not the dried out baggy eyes like look he's been sporting as of late. I don't like it.

I have to say that I wasn't too happy about Nexus having to drop everything to look bad against Taker, after they've shouting from the rooftops that Taker's not at 100 per cent. Again, poor booking from creative, they had the excuse they needed for Nexus kicking chucks out of the Deadman.

Exactly my point. Especially considering with the extra addition of 2 extra people, who were seemingly two of the weaker ones, they managed to dissect John Cena, Edge, Jericho, Evan Bourne, Mark Henry, Great Khali, Hart Dynasty, Kofi Kingston and Dolph Ziggler (and few more.. I think) on a weekly basic, people at a 100%. But noo, Undertaker at 50% holds off the pack of wolves with more success than the entire RAW roster separately, and 4 legends together.

 

[Macca]

Yeah I know. Overall the match was fine, but there were definitely something missing though. The ending didn't do it justice though, but it still wasn't warranted to be called completely shit.

But I get the whole deal that people constantly seem to throw around "Why would he retain, if he looses it at Backlash anyway?"

Yeah, that was the thing as well, perhaps if they did a HHH-Batista with a series of matches where Randy just couldn't do it, then perhaps you could say there is a motive.

Like I said, good match for any other PPV, poor choice for the WM main event.

I was surprised there were no McMahon involvement at Wrestlemania 25. It would've definitely made sense in some manner. Teddy and Cody wasn't on the card, and the McMahon's weren't on the card. Why the hell couldn't either one of them have been given some kind of ringside role? I guess it would've ruined a bit of the stipulation given, but at least it would've given a slightly better feeling.

There's always something nice about a McMahon present at Wrestlemania, even this year.

It would have been nice to see Legacy making their way down only to deal with Vince and Shane coming up the rear, as they had been shown in the back as Hunter was making his way to the ring. But I can also see them wanting to keep the integrity of a WM main event by not letting those shenagians take place.

Yeah sure. But they still managed to further storylines and feuds, which should be the primary focus of every wrestling program. The Pay Per Views is obviously for the bigger material.

Also the divas division is pretty much just a clusterfuck. The only good thing going on is LayCool and Maryse's entrance. I can only hope they let LayCool win the unification match.

Rather likely to happen, it seems like the whole title unification was put in place in order to do with that hatchet job LayCool did with the Woman's Title. Imagine having to do to public appearances to promote the WWE with a belt like that, really makes it look cheap.

Haha. Let's hope mate. He needs to regain this kind of look.

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Not the dried out baggy eyes like look he's been sporting as of late. I don't like it.

I think that's more old age then anything. Either that or he's ended up rolling his eyes into the back of his head too many times and his eyelids have had enough, so they've started a hasty retreat.

Exactly my point. Especially considering with the extra addition of 2 extra people, who were seemingly two of the weaker ones, they managed to dissect John Cena, Edge, Jericho, Evan Bourne, Mark Henry, Great Khali, Hart Dynasty, Kofi Kingston and Dolph Ziggler (and few more.. I think) on a weekly basic, people at a 100%. But noo, Undertaker at 50% holds off the pack of wolves with more success than the entire RAW roster separately, and 4 legends together.

Don't need to say anything else, sums it up perfectly.

 

[Ferbian]

Yeah, that was the thing as well, perhaps if they did a HHH-Batista with a series of matches where Randy just couldn't do it, then perhaps you could say there is a motive.

Like I said, good match for any other PPV, poor choice for the WM main event.

Yeah definitely. But they didn't. Besides Randy Orton and Triple H didn't need that HHH-Batista thing, because Batista was set to be launched towards the fucking moon and back in terms of popularity and dominance. He got a nice world title reign on Smackdown because of it.

Randy was already over, and didn't need the push of beating Triple H 3 times in a row, nor did Triple H need to kill Randy's momentum like that to beat him 3 times in a row. Especially considering Trips were obviously gonna go out at Backlash to take a rest.

It would have been nice to see Legacy making their way down only to deal with Vince and Shane coming up the rear, as they had been shown in the back as Hunter was making his way to the ring. But I can also see them wanting to keep the integrity of a WM main event by not letting those shenagians take place.

Oh yeah definitely. Or simply them being in the corners, and breaking into a brawl ala Shane and Vince Wrestlemania 2000. But that might just be me reminiscing a great memory (I loved Wrestlemania 2000's main event).

Rather likely to happen, it seems like the whole title unification was put in place in order to do with that hatchet job LayCool did with the Woman's Title. Imagine having to do to public appearances to promote the WWE with a belt like that, really makes it look cheap.

Yeah definitely. I can only hope that they give LayCool the belts though, but that's primarily because I can't fucking stand Melina. I see no attraction in her looks, or her in-ring ability for that sake. She's overrated really.

I think that's more old age then anything. Either that or he's ended up rolling his eyes into the back of his head too many times and his eyelids have had enough, so they've started a hasty retreat.

Yeah of course it's more of old age. But it doesn't mean I have to like it. Besides he's still only 45, it couldn't possibly be that critical.

By the way Macca. You need to create more of these pearls. You said you wanted to discuss wrestling outside of the inevitable spam. Well here it is.

 

[Macca]

Yeah definitely. But they didn't. Besides Randy Orton and Triple H didn't need that HHH-Batista thing, because Batista was set to be launched towards the fucking moon and back in terms of popularity and dominance. He got a nice world title reign on Smackdown because of it.

Randy was already over, and didn't need the push of beating Triple H 3 times in a row, nor did Triple H need to kill Randy's momentum like that to beat him 3 times in a row. Especially considering Trips were obviously gonna go out at Backlash to take a rest.

Yeah, I think the thing with Batista and HHH after WM was they realized they could really milk this thing for a couple of PPV's more. Which then makes me wonder why they could show the same amount of emphasis on Randy Orton's WrestleMania moment? And I don't buy the whole "The show shouldn't finish with a heel gaining his way to the Promised Land, WrestleMania should finish with the face on top" excuse because they had Cena taking the World Championship off of Edge and Big Show, they could just as easily ended the show with that one, seeing as how John is the mega face of the company. I'm certainly not saying that Orton-HHH could have been a series of matches, but it's interesting to note that Batista could be given such a rub from his WM match and yet Randy's career had to weather through the match and instead had to recieve the title through that half-handled six man tag.

Oh yeah definitely. Or simply them being in the corners, and breaking into a brawl ala Shane and Vince Wrestlemania 2000. But that might just be me reminiscing a great memory (I loved Wrestlemania 2000's main event).

Not too sure about that match, I remember the interference was starting to get out of hand, especially for a WM main event. Plus you could see the ending a mile off, with the way Vince was hanging about.

Yeah definitely. I can only hope that they give LayCool the belts though, but that's primarily because I can't fucking stand Melina. I see no attraction in her looks, or her in-ring ability for that sake. She's overrated really.

Dude, were you around for the MNM days? Man, the entrance with the skirts and the g-strings on, that was the shit. And she's certainly one of the better female wrestlers, by this generation's standards.

Yeah of course it's more of old age. But it doesn't mean I have to like it. Besides he's still only 45, it couldn't possibly be that critical.

Nobody likes it. I wish Sunny never got old...and fat...and sucking Sabu's dick for painkillers. But life is a cruel mistress.

By the way Macca. You need to create more of these pearls. You said you wanted to discuss wrestling outside of the inevitable spam. Well here it is.

Yeah, I figured it out. By condensing all my thoughts/posts into one thread, it makes it a lot easier to see progress made.

 

[The Doctor]

Who do you think should win the women's unification match at NoC, and why?

 

[Ferbian]

Yeah, I think the thing with Batista and HHH after WM was they realized they could really milk this thing for a couple of PPV's more. Which then makes me wonder why they could show the same amount of emphasis on Randy Orton's WrestleMania moment? And I don't buy the whole "The show shouldn't finish with a heel gaining his way to the Promised Land, WrestleMania should finish with the face on top" excuse because they had Cena taking the World Championship off of Edge and Big Show, they could just as easily ended the show with that one, seeing as how John is the mega face of the company. I'm certainly not saying that Orton-HHH could have been a series of matches, but it's interesting to note that Batista could be given such a rub from his WM match and yet Randy's career had to weather through the match and instead had to recieve the title through that half-handled six man tag.

I'm not really sure what the hell they had going for the fact that the Triple Threat couldn't end the show. First two speculations I had for it was that it was due to it being a Smackdown feud. Or because it was just because Triple H vs Randy Orton was the bigger storyline, and it was.

Randy's career wasn't really on the line of making or breaking him at Wrestlemania 25. He already was a big shot, he was already a multiple times world champion. There really weren't need to make him the fucking man at the top of guys at Wrestlemania, because he was already among the top guys. Randy was made in 2007 (I believe that was when he finally got the WWE championship right?).

Not too sure about that match, I remember the interference was starting to get out of hand, especially for a WM main event. Plus you could see the ending a mile off, with the way Vince was hanging about.

Yeah I guess. But it was still a pretty decent match. I certainly liked Wrestlemania 2000 in general. Besides I've always been a huge Triple H mark. This was one of the glorious moments of his career I would say (retaining at Wrestlemania as the very first heel, and the most over heel in the company at that moment).

Dude, were you around for the MNM days? Man, the entrance with the skirts and the g-strings on, that was the shit. And she's certainly one of the better female wrestlers, by this generation's standards.

Started watching 2 weeks prior to Wrestlemania 25. But I saw some stuff here and there. I even saw on the Wrestlezone front page in one of those up / down editorials where they had a picture of Melina with no panties, doing the split.

Still doesn't do it for me. Her face turns me off, and generally she's just one big pile of urgh to me.

Nobody likes it. I wish Sunny never got old...and fat...and sucking Sabu's dick for painkillers. But life is a cruel mistress.

She looked pretty good during the 800th episode of RAW though. Or was it the homecoming. Either way I envy that little troll Hornswoggle for getting to hug her tits, cause that's practically what he did, sure as hell didn't reach the neck thats for sure.

Yeah, I figured it out. By condensing all my thoughts/posts into one thread, it makes it a lot easier to see progress made.

Depends where and how you handle it. Considering just creating one giant thread on all the weekly things in the WWE section, would most likely be trashed for multiple duplicates.

 

[Macca]

I'm not really sure what the hell they had going for the fact that the Triple Threat couldn't end the show. First two speculations I had for it was that it was due to it being a Smackdown feud. Or because it was just because Triple H vs Randy Orton was the bigger storyline, and it was.

Randy's career wasn't really on the line of making or breaking him at Wrestlemania 25. He already was a big shot, he was already a multiple times world champion. There really weren't need to make him the fucking man at the top of guys at Wrestlemania, because he was already among the top guys. Randy was made in 2007 (I believe that was when he finally got the WWE championship right?).

Actually, it was in 2004 when he toppled Chris Benoit for the World Heavyweight Championship at Summerslam. However, as what has become something of a theme in Randy's career, it was less than a month before Randy dropped the belt to Hunter at Unforgiven. Orton should have held the title until the Royal Rumble the next year. Say what you will about Hunter burying his colleagues, but nobody's had their fortunes dampened on by HHH more than Randy.

Yeah I guess. But it was still a pretty decent match. I certainly liked Wrestlemania 2000 in general. Besides I've always been a huge Triple H mark. This was one of the glorious moments of his career I would say (retaining at Wrestlemania as the very first heel, and the most over heel in the company at that moment).

I don't think Hunter was able to topple any years with his year in 2000, had the McMahon-Helmsley faction keeping safely above the top of the food chain, plus he was revealed as the conspirator to Austin's hit-and-run attack, the dude was the centrepiece of the federation that year.

Started watching 2 weeks prior to Wrestlemania 25. But I saw some stuff here and there. I even saw on the Wrestlezone front page in one of those up / down editorials where they had a picture of Melina with no panties, doing the split.

Still doesn't do it for me. Her face turns me off, and generally she's just one big pile of urgh to me.

Why the fuck are you looking at Melina's face? I didn't even realise she had one. HAVE YOU SEEN THAT GHETTO BOOTY?!

She looked pretty good during the 800th episode of RAW though. Or was it the homecoming. Either way I envy that little troll Hornswoggle for getting to hug her tits, cause that's practically what he did, sure as hell didn't reach the neck thats for sure.

She was only letting him do that because she thought he would supply her with some good gear after the show. Look at Hornswoggle, you know he's selled some rock at some point, and then started using his own merchandise.

Depends where and how you handle it. Considering just creating one giant thread on all the weekly things in the WWE section, would most likely be trashed for multiple duplicates.

Meh, it's the Prison. This thread is here for the purpose for conveying my thoughts, be it on wrestling or ******** porn. It can also be a easie way for peeps to catch the breeze with yo boy.

 

[Ferbian]

Actually, it was in 2004 when he toppled Chris Benoit for the World Heavyweight Championship at Summerslam. However, as what has become something of a theme in Randy's career, it was less than a month before Randy dropped the belt to Hunter at Unforgiven. Orton should have held the title until the Royal Rumble the next year. Say what you will about Hunter burying his colleagues, but nobody's had their fortunes dampened on by HHH more than Randy.

Yeah I know. But he was booted down to doing very little for the main event in 2005 - 2006 where he were pretty much just wooping around with Edge as Rated RKO, and occasionally challenging for the championship. I would say he wasn't a main event stay until 2007, you know when the Age of Orton started.

I don't think Hunter was able to topple any years with his year in 2000, had the McMahon-Helmsley faction keeping safely above the top of the food chain, plus he was revealed as the conspirator to Austin's hit-and-run attack, the dude was the centrepiece of the federation that year.

He did damn well for Evolution. But it was primarily during the McMahon-Helmsley era that people took notice to this guy. I remember watching the DVD "The Game" about Triple H's career in late 90 to early 00, during the time he was out with his injury. There were a few saying they admired Triple H going 180 degrees on his heel work, considering he could've ran with the D-Generation X heel heat, but he got fucking hated instead.

Why the fuck are you looking at Melina's face? I didn't even realise she had one. HAVE YOU SEEN THAT GHETTO BOOTY?!

Meh. I'm a boob guy more than an ass man.

She was only letting him do that because she thought he would supply her with some good gear after the show. Look at Hornswoggle, you know he's selled some rock at some point, and then started using his own merchandise.

Haha who knows really. Could be a good explanation.

Meh, it's the Prison. This thread is here for the purpose for conveying my thoughts, be it on wrestling or ******** porn. It can also be a easie way for peeps to catch the breeze with yo boy.

Yeah sure, that's why it's The Macca Thread. But still kinda hard to maintain this type of thread outside of the prison.

 

[The Doctor]

Meh. I'm a boob guy more than an ass man.

And I don't really see why this thread wouldn't be allowed. You'd post your thoughts, people would agree or disagree, and you'd debate them. It's like KB's reviews of PPVs. He posts a PPV review, and people debate him on his ratings of matches.

 

[Macca]

Who do you think should win the women's unification match at NoC, and why?

I really hope that management do the right think and give it to LayCool, seeing as though they are the only thing even remotely inspiring people to pay attention to the Diva's division, and it would make a lot of sense to have both women carrying a belt.

However, in saying that I'm worried by it being a Lumberjill match. Heels generally don't have a good outcome of those. Hopefully, the Laycool member on the outside can pull the rabbit out of the bag. But if they don't, then I'll just remind myself that it is the WWE Diva's division and go back to watching my joshi matches over in Japan.

 

[Macca]

Yeah I know. But he was booted down to doing very little for the main event in 2005 - 2006 where he were pretty much just wooping around with Edge as Rated RKO, and occasionally challenging for the championship. I would say he wasn't a main event stay until 2007, you know when the Age of Orton started.

That was Hunter's fault. He took the belt off Orton way too earlier, leaving Randy with a failed face run because HHH had left him with no credablilty to begin with.

He did damn well for Evolution. But it was primarily during the McMahon-Helmsley era that people took notice to this guy. I remember watching the DVD "The Game" about Triple H's career in late 90 to early 00, during the time he was out with his injury. There were a few saying they admired Triple H going 180 degrees on his heel work, considering he could've ran with the D-Generation X heel heat, but he got fucking hated instead.

A lot of people, myself included, believe that Evolution, or as it's more commonly known "Triple H's Monopoly on Monday Night Raw" was rather harmful to business. He was awarded the title from Bischoff and from there he proceeded to bury RVD, Kane, Steiner, Booker, he saw to it that Goldberg's reign as champ was on borrowed time, before coming to, as we discussed, Randy Orton. Hell, the only person who got any leeway with him was none other than his BFF, Shawn Michaels, and he at least entertained Kevin Nash's short 2003 run. Also notice that SmackDown was really in it's golden years during this time, because there was no HHH for everyone to job to. Guys like Lesnar, Angle, Benoit, Edge and Guerrero were really allowed to go places that they wouldn't have even touched on Raw.

Meh. I'm a boob guy more than an ass man.

Well there's no shortage of them in the E. Fake ones, that is.

Haha who knows really. Could be a good explanation.

Hornswoggle can speak english, it's just that the 'rooms are making his tongue numb.

Yeah sure, that's why it's The Macca Thread. But still kinda hard to maintain this type of thread outside of the prison.

Well yeah, but then I can just make several threads in several sub-forums by that stage, wouldn't I?

 

[Macca]

And I don't really see why this thread wouldn't be allowed. You'd post your thoughts, people would agree or disagree, and you'd debate them. It's like KB's reviews of PPVs. He posts a PPV review, and people debate him on his ratings of matches.

I giggle like a school girl when people suggest Billy Gunn was a main evernter at some point. This dude will always be Cute Kip, no matter what he does in his career.

 

[Ferbian]

And I don't really see why this thread wouldn't be allowed. You'd post your thoughts, people would agree or disagree, and you'd debate them. It's like KB's reviews of PPVs. He posts a PPV review, and people debate him on his ratings of matches.

Of course it would be allowed. But he pretty much discussed everything in one thread, that we have about 10 threads separately made for in the WWE section right now.

Would be easier just to post in all of the threads would it not?

 

[Ferbian]

That was Hunter's fault. He took the belt off Orton way too earlier, leaving Randy with a failed face run because HHH had left him with no credablilty to begin with.

Yeah true. But it still means that Randy weren't truly a main event wrestler until around 2007 - 2008 with the Age of Orton. Ever since that he's been red hot in general.

A lot of people, myself included, believe that Evolution, or as it's more commonly known "Triple H's Monopoly on Monday Night Raw" was rather harmful to business. He was awarded the title from Bischoff and from there he proceeded to bury RVD, Kane, Steiner, Booker, he saw to it that Goldberg's reign as champ was on borrowed time, before coming to, as we discussed, Randy Orton. Hell, the only person who got any leeway with him was none other than his BFF, Shawn Michaels, and he at least entertained Kevin Nash's short 2003 run. Also notice that SmackDown was really in it's golden years during this time, because there was no HHH for everyone to job to. Guys like Lesnar, Angle, Benoit, Edge and Guerrero were really allowed to go places that they wouldn't have even touched on Raw.

Yeah sure it was pretty fucked. But I'm sure Triple H would probably have been the top guy on RAW either way during that period of time. He was still generally over as fuck as a heel back then, and it wasn't due to him holding the others momentum down. Though I do agree, Goldberg was pretty much the most fucked up situation of holding someone down. He could've been the biggest fucking thing on RAW during that period of time. Just watching how people were fucking chanting his name when he debuted in WWE on The Rock.

Well there's no shortage of them in the E. Fake ones, that is.

Do I look like I care?

Yeah, I wish I could find a picture of the stare he did talking about Kaval "This very unimpactful stare". That was fucking brilliant.

Hornswoggle can speak english, it's just that the 'rooms are making his tongue numb.

You got a point.

Well yeah, but then I can just make several threads in several sub-forums by that stage, wouldn't I?

True that, or as I noted to Doc, simply post in the threads already dedicated to it.

 

[X]

Wade Barrett is so green he's practically a walking botch machine.

All I saw was you and Ferbs discussing Barrett. Thought I'd chime in. Some of these rookies are DANGEROUSLY green in the ring, Lucky Cannon in particular practically murdered Kaval/Low-Ki this past week during that abysmal brawl. Throw in Titus O'Neill completely no-selling a yakuza kick from MVP and Percy Watson and Alex Riley having no clue what they're doing or who they're doing it to, that was just an embarrassing segment.

Barrett needs way more seasoning before he's ready for this big PPV title shot. Fuckin' Chris Jericho put him over and he still botches his finisher weekly.

 

[Ferbian]

All I saw was you and Ferbs discussing Barrett. Thought I'd chime in.

You're more than welcome, as many as possible is always nice.

Some of these rookies are DANGEROUSLY green in the ring, Lucky Cannon in particular practically murdered Kaval/Low-Ki this past week during that abysmal brawl. Throw in Titus O'Neill completely no-selling a yakuza kick from MVP and Percy Watson and Alex Riley having no clue what they're doing or who they're doing it to, that was just an embarrassing segment.

Yeah I can only agree. There's a very small amount of the NXT guys that truly are at a level where they can perform 100%. And the only 2 I could really think of is Kaval and Bryan Danielson. Certainly there's some of the Nexus guys and such that are delivering decently for their amount of time in the business though, and they're still learning.

I would say Justin is doing fairly well though. He has his moments of failure, but he's probably one of the closest things to being a clean cut in the ring of all of the NXT guys that aren't 100%.

Barrett needs way more seasoning before he's ready for this big PPV title shot. Fuckin' Chris Jericho put him over and he still botches his finisher weekly.

I've never seen how a Wasteland is performed perfectly I guess. Doesn't truly look to me like he is botching his finisher. I actually think it's supposed to look like that?

But he's still doing fairly well, he's still skilled in the ring and he is pretty much one of the overall better choices for the future. They need to establish these guys one way or another, especially considering Wade pretty much from a storyline perspective has any right to shoot himself into the main event right now. And I guess it kinda makes sense for him to be among these guys due to 2 reasons. It'll get him over to the main event stay that he'll most likely be in the future, and it'll help him become more well-rounded in the ring.

 

[X]

He botches the finisher in how he delivers it to his opponent, mainly how he performed it on Mark Henry by dropping him directly on his neck/head, nearly killing the guy. He nearly did the same thing to Jericho a few weeks later. The guy is supposed to land on his back, not on his head, that's how you break someone's neck.

 

[Ferbian]

He botches the finisher in how he delivers it to his opponent, mainly how he performed it on Mark Henry by dropping him directly on his neck/head, nearly killing the guy. He nearly did the same thing to Jericho a few weeks later. The guy is supposed to land on his back, not on his head, that's how you break someone's neck.

I never noticed that. The Mark Henry one was obvious as hell. However it's pretty obvious Wade just shouldn't be carrying around on a guy like Mark, only John Cena gets to do that, and perhaps CM Punk.

Though I guess it can't be all too critical yet. Considering he have yet to fuck up John Cena or Randy Orton (We'll all know he'll be jobbing to Evan Bourne the week after, or on Smackdown if he botches on Randy)

Just watched the Jericho vs Wade match (scrolled towards the end) again. Really doesn't look like he plants him on his neck, it looks clean to me. Is there any other incidents of Jericho being Wastelanded by Wade that I've missed out on?

 

[DirtyJosé]

Barrett needs a new finisher. Wasteland sucks, always looks sloppy, and seems quite dangerous. It's also slow and awkward to set up.

 

[Macca]

I did think that the one he hit on Orton was rather sloppy. For a guy that was supposedly pulled off a house show main event due to a shoulder injury, I didn't think he should have even allowed Barret to hit the Wastelands on him. Wade never seems to drop them on their back but rather on their arm/shoulder. And I'm rather surprised nobody's suffered a broken collarbone from it, let alone a guy who already has an extensive history of shoulder issues in Randy Orton.

Out of all the Nexus finishers, I throughly mark out for Tarver's Lightning. That has to be the best variation I've ever seen somebody do of a powerslam, no doubt.