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The Macca Thread - For Everything Macca Related
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Great stuff, Macca is the shit. I dunno bout this Pippen hatin' though, however, I guess he did start it.
Just finished reading this thread and loved it. Really looking forward to seeing more.
In regards to Santino, I read something that might be of interest. It was a Top 10 list about guys who were getting booked poorly. Oddly enough, Santino was on the list. According to the writer, Santino could've been this generation's version of The Rock, considering both his excellent promo skills and MMA background. Problem being, WWE just views him as a silly Italian stereotype.
Your thoughts on this?
In regards to Santino, I read something that might be of interest. It was a Top 10 list about guys who were getting booked poorly. Oddly enough, Santino was on the list. According to the writer, Santino could've been this generation's version of The Rock, considering both his excellent promo skills and MMA background. Problem being, WWE just views him as a silly Italian stereotype.
Your thoughts on this?
I read that same list and commented on how stupid and stereotypically smarky it was. Unfortunately the article seems gone, so you can't read my giant comment I posted on it.
Read and repped! Suck that Pippen.
I deserve it.
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Not to good to be honest.
I'm am going to apologise for what I said yesterday/earlier. It was uncalled for on my part. I basically wrote it because I am pretty sur it was you that did a thread on trying to leave or something, and I saw all the hate. So I figured that no one would read it.
I do apologise.
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Raw was shite-laden, let's discuss that further.
- It's great to see Bret Hart still hanging around after Mania, the Hitman still gets a warm reception everytime he's in town, and he always adds a bit of respectability to each show. (Bret was the only HoFer on Raw's 900th episode, what, was Howard Finkel busy or something? Dude's that dedicated to his job that he probably has a penthouse apartment at the top of Titan Towers.) But as great as it is to see him, I really wish they'd stop booking him in matches. It's almost as if Vince still thinks he can convince the viewers that Bret still has a decent match in him. (And let's be honest, I bet I wasn't the only one chanting "YOU'VE STILL GOT IT!!! Clap-clap-clapclapclap" at my TV when Bret had to sit down and have a breather during his barnburner at WM XVI.) What he should be doing is putting over the show and the young talent like he did Miz and Nexus, because they're not fooling anyone with this matches with a average bell to bell length of 0 to 15 seconds. Such matches are not helpful to the Hitman's legacy.
- The Daniel Bryan/The Miz fued is playing out well at the moment, but I'll reserve my judgement until after NoC. A lot of people seem to think that Bryan will waltz right into the PPV and win the neglected U.S gold so Miz can go off to raping and pillaging the main-event village with his shiny red briefcase, but my common sense is telling me that the office may not be so into giving the man who was recently brought back from the Land of Future Endeavorment less then a month ago the flagship show's midcard belt. Not that it's impossible but I wouldn't put so much stock into DBD so soon. It only takes one person in power to think that he hasn't payed for his sins enough and the U.S ship doesn't make port in Danielson harbour. I do, however, think Daniel could bring prestige back to the decades-old championship. Plenty of people like to compare Bryan to Benoit, so consider this: From 2005-07, Benoit really was able to put the U.S title back in a good place with his excellant workrate. So it's certainly not unspeakable to think BDB could do more of the same.
- Is it just me or has Melina's ass gotten a lot chunkier? Like she's always had a nice derriere but in those tights... Not that I'm complaining though. John Morrison must be raking in the Benjamins when he pimps her out to Batista.
- Hey, remember when Nexus would just attack folk out of the blue and not be shown backstage alluding to it, and therefore running the shock and surprise of it all? Yeah, I miss that too.
- Jericho's leaving at NoC. Not that I'm complaining, the guy's put in three great years, culminating at this year's WrestleMania by doing something that nobody thought he had a chance of: walking of a Mania with a/still holding a World Title. He really has done everything to do, and has put over a multitude of talent over with no questions asked. We, as wrestling fans, can only respect and commend him on such a great body of work.
- No. 1 Contenders Match for the WWE Tag Team Titles?! Way to go, John "This beard got me a lot less further than I first thought it would" Morrison and R "Even Michael "Vintage" Cole thinks my one rap is now off the hill" Truth! You two stallions are truly a shining beacon to all the other mid-carders on how to become main-event superstars. Keep living the dream, gentlemen.
- Nexus' momentum has not slowed down because of Team WWE prevailing at Summerslam, but because of poor booking decisions and the misfortune of losing Skip Sheffield, who had really come into his own with his "Yup yup yup, I'M AN ANGRY MONKEY." gimmick. This episode of Raw was a fine example. You know, for a group who works so successfully as one, they certainly didn't look like such when WAY BARETT came out by himself and went straight for the Undertaker, because history shows that's a decent idea. Wouldn't it have made more sense to have Kane attack Taker before the bell, then disappear, and then have all Nexus make their out and attack both Taker AND Bret?, therefore making reference to the past 900 episodes of Raw with guys like Taker and Hart, and how the future will revolve around Nexus. It would provide the NXT 5 with mega heat and more creditability. The other problem I see is while Wade is focusing on the six-pack challenge, the rest of the boys just seem to be coasting for something to do, like the revelation of the hidden motive (Everyone may mark out for Triple H and Michael Cole, but I will decorate my living room with joy if it's revealed to be John Laurinaitis, who then proceeds to suspend Cena for a month for breaking the Wellness policy, all while talking in that croaky voice. Ah, one can dream.) The overall focus of Nexus needs to be renewed, and fast. The most successful group of the past 4 years can not be allowed to fade off into obscurity.
- Evan Bourne. If John Cena was supposed to make Evan Bourne into a star, it's really showing. Perhaps, Bourne could have actually been able to do something by actually winning his match with Swagger (because a loss here would REALLY not put him as an equal to...MVP) before becoming Alberto's playtoy, but hey, what do I know? I'm only a paying customer...
- Mark Henry would actually not make me turn my head away from the TV, if they gave him a wall on the stage to crash through during his entrance.
- This is Monday Night Raw!! And the only place where you can see such great superstars as C.M Punk and Big Show is Friday Night Smackdown, coming soon to Sci-Fy!!
- Sheamus has done really well as WWE Champion, but he's gonna need to start getting some clean wins soon. The man who holds the greatest honour in sports-entertainment shouldn't be known as the guy who can only beat Zack Ryder without resorting to dirty tactics, fella. Seeing as how it's rather likely Sheamus will be a ex-champion by the Raw after NoC, maybe before the turd (3rd in fella talk) time he wins the spinner belt, he can actually prove to the audience that he can gain wins over major stars by pinfall or submission, not DQ or countout.
- The 5 on 5 elimination match was good, I suppose. Jericho walking out was a nice way to start, Edge making Robinson his bitch was also a funny way of giving Nexus the advantage. (Although I do see where people are annoyed that this is on a big Raw show like this, and with the constant misdirectionboth men have experienced on Raw this year, this was yet another zag in the road.) Slater should be a very thankful boy, he pinned Edge and Jericho at Summerslam, and then pinned the current WWE champion Sheamus with... A SLEEPER SLAM. You know who else used a sleeper slam as a finisher? "The One" Billy Gunn. (The same one who was last seen doing handyman job around Orlando Studios for Dixie Carter) So basically, WWE have really gone out on a limb for Heath here. So he needs to prove he deserved it. But he most likely won't, so... It was great to see Gabriel pin Cena. People seem to think that Wade Barrett is the only ready made main-eventer, but I'd put Justin up there too. I didn't Nexus would be a good fit with a Justin Gabri, but he proved me wrong. Ask yourself this, when was the last time you've seen someone has put so much drama and suspense into a spot monkey move like the 450 Splash (The way he just stands on the turnbuckle and stares a hole into them before he fires up the engine is a great way to add intensity to the moment. I've even seen the dude lick his upper lip before he does it. That's hawt.) Justin didn't look out of place in his match with Orton the way Slater did with Edge, and despite the match turning into somewhat of a squash, it really intrigues me with the idea of a heel Gabriel vs. a face Orton match. And when Gabriel pinned Cena, despite being a surprise, it was still believable. So keep your eye on the kid from South Africa, because there's a lot of talent behind the model looks. Other than that, Orton really picked up the pace of the match and there to make Barrett look like a million bucks with the pin, so Wade could have that at least to brag about when NoC comes around.
-All in all, good for a regular Raw, somewhat pisspoor for a 900th episode.
- It's great to see Bret Hart still hanging around after Mania, the Hitman still gets a warm reception everytime he's in town, and he always adds a bit of respectability to each show. (Bret was the only HoFer on Raw's 900th episode, what, was Howard Finkel busy or something? Dude's that dedicated to his job that he probably has a penthouse apartment at the top of Titan Towers.) But as great as it is to see him, I really wish they'd stop booking him in matches. It's almost as if Vince still thinks he can convince the viewers that Bret still has a decent match in him. (And let's be honest, I bet I wasn't the only one chanting "YOU'VE STILL GOT IT!!! Clap-clap-clapclapclap" at my TV when Bret had to sit down and have a breather during his barnburner at WM XVI.) What he should be doing is putting over the show and the young talent like he did Miz and Nexus, because they're not fooling anyone with this matches with a average bell to bell length of 0 to 15 seconds. Such matches are not helpful to the Hitman's legacy.
- The Daniel Bryan/The Miz fued is playing out well at the moment, but I'll reserve my judgement until after NoC. A lot of people seem to think that Bryan will waltz right into the PPV and win the neglected U.S gold so Miz can go off to raping and pillaging the main-event village with his shiny red briefcase, but my common sense is telling me that the office may not be so into giving the man who was recently brought back from the Land of Future Endeavorment less then a month ago the flagship show's midcard belt. Not that it's impossible but I wouldn't put so much stock into DBD so soon. It only takes one person in power to think that he hasn't payed for his sins enough and the U.S ship doesn't make port in Danielson harbour. I do, however, think Daniel could bring prestige back to the decades-old championship. Plenty of people like to compare Bryan to Benoit, so consider this: From 2005-07, Benoit really was able to put the U.S title back in a good place with his excellant workrate. So it's certainly not unspeakable to think BDB could do more of the same.
- Is it just me or has Melina's ass gotten a lot chunkier? Like she's always had a nice derriere but in those tights... Not that I'm complaining though. John Morrison must be raking in the Benjamins when he pimps her out to Batista.
- Hey, remember when Nexus would just attack folk out of the blue and not be shown backstage alluding to it, and therefore running the shock and surprise of it all? Yeah, I miss that too.
- Jericho's leaving at NoC. Not that I'm complaining, the guy's put in three great years, culminating at this year's WrestleMania by doing something that nobody thought he had a chance of: walking of a Mania with a/still holding a World Title. He really has done everything to do, and has put over a multitude of talent over with no questions asked. We, as wrestling fans, can only respect and commend him on such a great body of work.
- No. 1 Contenders Match for the WWE Tag Team Titles?! Way to go, John "This beard got me a lot less further than I first thought it would" Morrison and R "Even Michael "Vintage" Cole thinks my one rap is now off the hill" Truth! You two stallions are truly a shining beacon to all the other mid-carders on how to become main-event superstars. Keep living the dream, gentlemen.
- Nexus' momentum has not slowed down because of Team WWE prevailing at Summerslam, but because of poor booking decisions and the misfortune of losing Skip Sheffield, who had really come into his own with his "Yup yup yup, I'M AN ANGRY MONKEY." gimmick. This episode of Raw was a fine example. You know, for a group who works so successfully as one, they certainly didn't look like such when WAY BARETT came out by himself and went straight for the Undertaker, because history shows that's a decent idea. Wouldn't it have made more sense to have Kane attack Taker before the bell, then disappear, and then have all Nexus make their out and attack both Taker AND Bret?, therefore making reference to the past 900 episodes of Raw with guys like Taker and Hart, and how the future will revolve around Nexus. It would provide the NXT 5 with mega heat and more creditability. The other problem I see is while Wade is focusing on the six-pack challenge, the rest of the boys just seem to be coasting for something to do, like the revelation of the hidden motive (Everyone may mark out for Triple H and Michael Cole, but I will decorate my living room with joy if it's revealed to be John Laurinaitis, who then proceeds to suspend Cena for a month for breaking the Wellness policy, all while talking in that croaky voice. Ah, one can dream.) The overall focus of Nexus needs to be renewed, and fast. The most successful group of the past 4 years can not be allowed to fade off into obscurity.
- Evan Bourne. If John Cena was supposed to make Evan Bourne into a star, it's really showing. Perhaps, Bourne could have actually been able to do something by actually winning his match with Swagger (because a loss here would REALLY not put him as an equal to...MVP) before becoming Alberto's playtoy, but hey, what do I know? I'm only a paying customer...
- Mark Henry would actually not make me turn my head away from the TV, if they gave him a wall on the stage to crash through during his entrance.
- This is Monday Night Raw!! And the only place where you can see such great superstars as C.M Punk and Big Show is Friday Night Smackdown, coming soon to Sci-Fy!!
- Sheamus has done really well as WWE Champion, but he's gonna need to start getting some clean wins soon. The man who holds the greatest honour in sports-entertainment shouldn't be known as the guy who can only beat Zack Ryder without resorting to dirty tactics, fella. Seeing as how it's rather likely Sheamus will be a ex-champion by the Raw after NoC, maybe before the turd (3rd in fella talk) time he wins the spinner belt, he can actually prove to the audience that he can gain wins over major stars by pinfall or submission, not DQ or countout.
- The 5 on 5 elimination match was good, I suppose. Jericho walking out was a nice way to start, Edge making Robinson his bitch was also a funny way of giving Nexus the advantage. (Although I do see where people are annoyed that this is on a big Raw show like this, and with the constant misdirectionboth men have experienced on Raw this year, this was yet another zag in the road.) Slater should be a very thankful boy, he pinned Edge and Jericho at Summerslam, and then pinned the current WWE champion Sheamus with... A SLEEPER SLAM. You know who else used a sleeper slam as a finisher? "The One" Billy Gunn. (The same one who was last seen doing handyman job around Orlando Studios for Dixie Carter) So basically, WWE have really gone out on a limb for Heath here. So he needs to prove he deserved it. But he most likely won't, so... It was great to see Gabriel pin Cena. People seem to think that Wade Barrett is the only ready made main-eventer, but I'd put Justin up there too. I didn't Nexus would be a good fit with a Justin Gabri, but he proved me wrong. Ask yourself this, when was the last time you've seen someone has put so much drama and suspense into a spot monkey move like the 450 Splash (The way he just stands on the turnbuckle and stares a hole into them before he fires up the engine is a great way to add intensity to the moment. I've even seen the dude lick his upper lip before he does it. That's hawt.) Justin didn't look out of place in his match with Orton the way Slater did with Edge, and despite the match turning into somewhat of a squash, it really intrigues me with the idea of a heel Gabriel vs. a face Orton match. And when Gabriel pinned Cena, despite being a surprise, it was still believable. So keep your eye on the kid from South Africa, because there's a lot of talent behind the model looks. Other than that, Orton really picked up the pace of the match and there to make Barrett look like a million bucks with the pin, so Wade could have that at least to brag about when NoC comes around.
-All in all, good for a regular Raw, somewhat pisspoor for a 900th episode.
I really don't get why people would shit all over RAW just because it was the 900th episode. Doesn't necessarily mean they have to make it special. This weeks RAW did what it was ment to do, further some feuds, further some storylines and it had a lot of great mark-out periods for certain fans I'm sure.
I for one marked out numerous times during that episode. I marked out for Undertaker vs Bret (I was fucking bummed for it not happening). I marked out for Wasteland on Undertaker, I marked out for the CM Punk / Big Show promo (hell I marked out numerous times during that promo).
And while some of it might not have been the biggest of mark-outs that could've been demanded, I still think that it did more than fine. And that just because it's a "milestone" (I wouldn't call 900 a milestone, 1000 sure? 500? sure, but then again, WWE did something special for the 800th episode, I don't get it though) people will shit all over it for not delivering beyond what really made sense.
I for one marked out numerous times during that episode. I marked out for Undertaker vs Bret (I was fucking bummed for it not happening). I marked out for Wasteland on Undertaker, I marked out for the CM Punk / Big Show promo (hell I marked out numerous times during that promo).
And while some of it might not have been the biggest of mark-outs that could've been demanded, I still think that it did more than fine. And that just because it's a "milestone" (I wouldn't call 900 a milestone, 1000 sure? 500? sure, but then again, WWE did something special for the 800th episode, I don't get it though) people will shit all over it for not delivering beyond what really made sense.
The ending of NXT was a bit of a train-wreck, wasn't it. First with McGillicutty's spine-tingling promo, (If you close your eyes and listen to it, you'd swear Raven was schooling everyone on how hard his teenager years were) then it was the onslaught of Kaval from the other rookies, (Unfortunately for Titus, the most coordinated thing he did during this sequence was taking off his jacket.) before there was the mind-boggling moment of Riley seemingly trying to bury Percy Watson on live T.V by dropping him when Watson was clearly on his side. If anybody's got this on TiVo, watch this again: you can clearly see Riley slamming Watson, then walking to the ropes to hear the referee tell him he shouldn't be attacking Showtime, and what does Riley do? Throws ShowTime to the outside. Alex Riley folks, decent on the mic, inexperienced as fuck in the ring.
Overall, this was not the best start to the Genesis group. If they want the same standings that Nexus have, then they better kidnap LayCool, throw them in the boot of a car, drive off and not give them back until they all get contracts. That would gain heat and be relevent to the situation.
Overall, this was not the best start to the Genesis group. If they want the same standings that Nexus have, then they better kidnap LayCool, throw them in the boot of a car, drive off and not give them back until they all get contracts. That would gain heat and be relevent to the situation.
I barely paid attention to NXT, I pretty much just scrolled through the most of it, and pretty much just skipped half of the beat down. I had zero interest in it, because all I could think of is "Yeah, been there, done that and I sure as fuck don't care about you guys, I'd rather watch Nexus in there".
Also I'm seriously in doubt kidnapping and leaving LayCool off television to get contracts would accomplish anything, especially not heat when considering LayCool are heels as well. Besides, it would fuck up the divas division to leave out the best thing they have going.
Also I'm seriously in doubt kidnapping and leaving LayCool off television to get contracts would accomplish anything, especially not heat when considering LayCool are heels as well. Besides, it would fuck up the divas division to leave out the best thing they have going.
I think there's two problems with that, one being that Marella isn't the size or has the body that Johnson has, you wouldn't be wrong for mistaking Santino for Frodo's Sicilian counterpart. Two is that there are two distinct styles of comedy that both men partake in.
The Rock was known for making vastly entertaining comebacks towards his opponents to show his superiority while combining them with catchphrases in order to keep the crowds emotionally invested. Marella's comedy is more slapstick, and as such, would not translate to cream-of-the-crop status in the WWE. Santino is best as the little prick that talks a big game before soon getting put on their arse, and those are the kind of guys that work well to make guys like The Rock look good. That's why I've always thought he was more creatively endowed by being a heel, and doing things like the Honk-o-Meter, protesting Maria's Playboy spread and insulting Stone Cold for making The Condemned.
So to answer your question, no, despite being immensly entertaining, Santino Marella does not possess the skills to become a Roddy Piper, let alone The Rock.
You thought I was leaving? Baby, you know the Big Mac isn't getting pulled off the menu any time soon. ;p
But that's the thing though. Why build it up as a special episode of Raw when there are no major happenings and the best moment came from two Smackdown superstars. I think the main thing Ferbian is, after the last few months of Raw progressively upping it's game, it's obvious that they would have got so much better with it on supposedly a special Raw event.
I'm surprised you marked out for the Wastelands on Taker, I figured it would have been for the 450 Splash. When was the last time you saw the Phenom take a high-flying move like that?
Ferbian, that's you assuming that kidnapping Laycool would have to be a long term thing. What's stopping them from grabbing them at the beginning of the night and then resolving the issue at the end of the show? It's not like Laycool are fueding with anyone on SmackDown at the moment so they wouldn't be missed for one night, would they?
Yeah I get that. But really it still served it's purpose and it was a decent episode that gets way more shit than it's warranted. The episode did what it was supposed to do, hype Night of Champions, and hype storylines we've been seeing for the past 2 months period, and obviously are still continuing. How could we possibly complain about that?
I'm a Wade Barrett fan to the bone mate. I marked out for the lights going out, and Undertaker being up on the shoulders of Wade when the lights reappared. The 450 Splash was predictable, because it ends that shit every time. The fact that the lights out had me wondering "whats next" only made the Wasteland so much better.
The lights out could've signaled for many other things, like Undertaker being gone, The Nexus being surrounding Undertaker but not on the attack already, and Kane back in the ring. Any of those things really, so I was ecstatic that it was actually the Wasteland setup that popped back on. Especially knowing the "irony" in it all, considering Undertaker usually pops out of nowhere with the hand on the throat of his opponent / his opponents already laid the fuck out (Rey Mysterio vs Batista 2009 anyone?)
It's not so much I think the show was shit, as I stated it was good for a normal run-of-the-mill Raw, but it was extremely underwhelming for a 900th Raw episode that they even go through the trouble of changing the Raw graphic and adding the big dramatic highlight video at the beginning. To summarise it, this Raw was the live wrestling show equivilant of HHH vs. Orton from WM 25. And if you thought that was not underwhelming, then I'm afraid I can't see you any more Ferbian.
My problem with that as I've stated before, I can't stand seeing Kane and him constantly try to outdisappear each other. After a while, the magic runs off. I think it would have made a lot more impact to have Kane and Taker in the ring, then the lights go out, only to reveal that now Wade and the rest of Nexus were in the ring surrounding both Taker and Bret. The Wastelands and the 450 Splash still would have came off good.
You're saying that you're sick of seeing Justin do the 450 at the end all the time? Dude, this is pro wrestling, everyone does everything the same at the end of their matches/beatdowns, all the time. When was the last time you saw a Edge match end without a Spear? Or a Orton without a RKO? Wrestling is all about routine buddy, it's so that the audience can build a relationship and tune in to see them do the same routine again.
I thought the Triple H vs Orton match at Wrestlemania 25 was more than decent. I agree with the statement that Orton had about it though, that it hurt the match that they weren't allowed to have a no disqualification no count-out kind of match. The stipulation of Triple H only being able to win cleanly to retain fucked with the match. Other than that, I think it was more than fine.
And the same was the show, it didn't need to be anything major
I've never been too hyped for the black out myself no. But I like it when Undertaker does it to appear, not to disappear / reappear / mess with someone. Once every now and then is fine.
Dude I never said I was sick of seeing it. I said it was predictable and we knew it was gonna happen as soon as they had Undertaker beaten down. Where as the Wasteland is a move we only get to see like 30% of the time, and it made for a much better thing that we actually got to see it after a black-out.
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If I hadn't seen HHH-Orton Last Man Standing at No Mercy 07 then I might agree with you. That was exactly what we should have seen at Mania to address the issues they had. The No DQ and No CO did harm it, but not as much as the sequence of HHH squashing Randy for 2-3 minutes with a sledgehammer before hitting a pedigree and making the pin there and then. It was like the hot air completely evaporated in Reliant Stadium. Say what you want about who should have won that match, but there was no denying that the ending was not worthy of finishing the night off, with or without HBK-Taker on the same card. Watch the crowd when the bell rings, there's plenty of witnesses there that night who will testify to that.
Granted, Raw isn't a Wrestlemania, but I still expect them to make the best show possible. That's what the biggest professional wrestling show in the world for over a decade should do. If I was looking for a decent show with one or two nice moments, I'd tune into Spike every Thursday night. Zing.
I agree with that, however, since Taker's returned, that's all he seems to do, is the blackout game. He's using it a few too many times in the space of a few weeks. And all that does is take away from it.
My issue wasn't with the Wasteland after the blackout, but rather the way they set it up. Another example of how it could have played out is Wade not coming out, Kane and Taker having a confrontation, the lights go out, and when they come back on, Kane is gone, Nexus are in the ring, and Wade has Taker hoisted up.
There, everyone's happy now.
The Croydon area, how come?
The last man standing match shouldn't have been something to stop the Wrestlemania match, or make it any less interesting. There's many many different variations of hardcore matches after all. I quit could've been possibly, another Last Man Standing, or simply a no holds barred match. All of them would've made some kind of sense, but I think the no holds barred would've been the better one.
And sure the ending was a little bit bullshit. But it still made a little bit of sense, the referee being down and it was obvious it was the chance for Triple H to release the tension he had, to get that bit of vengeance. But the sledgehammer wasn't needed no.
But I still don't think it ruined the match, as much as the stipulations. Could've been a great match just as well had it been a simple singles match with a clean victory in the end.
Of course. No problem about making the best show possible, but it was still good, it still delivered on some points. Not everything can be the best, because it's hard to top every time. Something has to give for the others to be judged a little bit better. This weeks RAW submitted itself to having one of the other episodes come off a bit better.
Yeah, and it's a shame. But really Undertaker doesn't look like half the person he did back before he left. He seems like he lost a bit of color, and he just looks generally more dried out than he used to. It's kinda sad actually.
Oh yeah definitely. It could've made for a very interesting thing, however it wouldn't have made that much sense because Wade interrupted the Bret / Undertaker match, not Undertaker / Kane.
The only minor part that hurt the whole segment was the fact that Undertaker held off the 5 Nexus members pretty well. Especially considering I'm sure those 5 members could easily take down Cena if he had been in that situation. It made Undertaker (in a weak state mind you) look superior to a fully strengthened faction of 5 people that recently "trimmed the fat".