The Final Poll

[Serious Mozzarella]

An over-reactionary prick who gives up and plays the "it's all lulz to me" card when they are proven as such? Nah, I'm pretty certain that description suits you perfectly. You're like a Bizarro-Stormtrooper.

And you've misunderstood what I said, but I understand why you think I said it.

I meant to say I don't think of doing this as anymore than I think of surfing Facebook, so it's bullshit to say, "you're taking this too seriously," when you don't know how seriously I'm taking it. Whenever my friends get out of class, do you seriously think I'm going to sit here and talk to you? Do you believe I'm going to be thinking about things to say all day, waiting for the moment to get home, to long on and say them?

I've never done anything more than reply to people. If you think I'm thinking about this for even a millisecond after I close this window, then I don't know what to tell you. Keep thinking that.

Clearly you think enough of me to spend the time to continue it. I wonder how right LSN and Sally are about your need to have the last word. I suppose we'll find out.

I place you somewhere in between LSN and Ferbian on my totem pole of "people whose opinions I give a shit about."

And yet you could be jerking around with your time in any number of places but you still decide to come in here to spew acid. We get it; you think noob votes don't count. You've only been repeating that since JGlass's thread if not before that. Do you just love to hear yourself speak? Or are you just afraid no one heard you the first time?

Er, no I haven't. I've been saying it since I noticed Dagger was steamrolling Crock and Coco with noob votes. Which was yesterday.

So here's the choice you leave us with; either you really do care enough to want to see Crock or Coco elected, which given the time and effort you've put into this all from the beginning is not an awkward conclusion to come to, or "it's all just lulz to me". With one option, you're only hurting your own cause by continuing to be an asshole; with the other option, you're only making a fool out of yourself by wasting your precious time for lulz that aren't coming.

Time and effort? I'm sitting on my bed, using the bare-minimum amount of energy it takes for me to move my hands and type this to you. And considering this isn't a particularly intellectually stimulating conversation we're having, I might even be using less brain power.

This is what I do in the middle of the day, in between my classes and my job. If you think I'm spending "precious time" using "effort" to do this, then you're more out of touch than I thought you were.

I don't have to put words your mouth; I go by what you have made public already. Don't like people forming opinions of you that you don't care for? Don't say shit in public that would lead them to develop such opinions. Easy as that. I thought you were smarter than that?

Except both you and LSN have been attributing things to me I've never said. I've never called anyone a name for supporting Dagger. I've never been aggressive toward anyone before Sally, and I certainly haven't been hounding anyone to do anything. You and LSN can tell me I've been saying these things until your faces turn blue, but it doesn't make it any less true.

I've been just as vocal, and less aggressive than Dagger's main detractors. Like I said, if you want a real leg to stand on, why don't you call out Pancake, who is doing the shit you're attributing to me, IN THIS VERY THREAD.

Or how the people who are calling Dagger's supporters idiots. Things I've never done, but still getting shit for.

I don't think I'm superior. Never claimed to be. Nice to see you have an extensive library of "classic internet comebacks" to fall back on, though. Turn this on me if you want, I'm game to be analyzed and criticized. Still doesn't change the fact that you are a reactionary prick.

Do you even know what the word "reactionary" means? You're bitching about bitching, and devoting time out of your life to talk about how I'm devoting time out of my life.

I'm not saying I'm wrong, but you're taking a nice big bite out of the same shit sandwich I'm eating.

Nope. I say parroting because if you really didn't care as much as you claim to, you'd only be repeating the shit because you found it funny or because you just want to be an ass, not because you actually had that opinion yourself. Either you care or you don't. It's not that difficult. You can't have it both ways whenever it's convenient to your "street cred".

What the fuck are you even talking about?

I have these opinions because I have these opinions. I don't think Dagger is the nice guy everyone says he is because of his situation with Tasty. I don't think he has the understanding of the rules that being a mod requires. Because of these two reasons, I don't support him. Why is that such a problem for you?

Also, point out one time I've ever called anyone an idiot for supporting him.

"Either you care or you don't."

I care exactly as much as anyone else cares.

 

[DirtyJosé]

You're right, this is like actual politics. Blind supports flat-out ignoring legitimate problems people brought up with their candidates, and trying to turn them into victims for the sympathy vote. And failing miserably.

You're the problem with politics, not everyone else.

Wow, this totally doesn't sound like you making a big deal out of something you later claim isn't a big deal to you. Yup. Totally doesn't.

These people don't deserve a vote. They don't know the issues, they don't know the candidates, they don't understand the dynamic of the forum, and they won't be here in a month to experience the outcome.

More of that "this is all just lulz to me" stuff, right? I mean, why would anyone think you are being serious? Why try to counteract the strategy of pm'ing for votes when you can just alienate those noobs and ensure they will vote Dagger? Yup. Totally doesn't sound like you care.

I don't think I've said anyone was wrong for supporting Dagger, nor have I called them any names. I think you'd have a better leg to stand on if you called out anyone who said, "anyone who votes for Dagger is an idiot." I just don't think you have the balls to do that. You really think the people who frequent the spam areas are looking through these election threads and saying, "Oh, Mozz's attitude is bad. Now I'll vote for Dagger."

No, they're not. The people who registered 10 minutes ago, getting a PM from Dagger, and taking a second to vote for him, before posting about how John Cena needs to turn heel or something. Name one person who voted for Dagger because of something I personally said.

See below...

Vinnie Sunshine just posted a few pages back that he voted for Dagger because of the negativity around him or something, Mozz.

Also, people need to have 10 non-spam posts to vote. Again, I thought you were smarter than that. I really have a hard time believing that many people would sign up for an account, get pm'd about a vote, go out and post that many non-spam posts correctly, and then come back in here just to vote because someone asked them to. Maybe Dagger really is better with noobs than people give him credit for. Maybe offering one big ball of rep like the Coco gang has recently isn't as effective as unsolicited green rep from Dagger for making posts. Or maybe people are just turned off by the negative that you and many others continue to spout.

And no, I have no problem telling everyone who posts something like "vote for Dagger and you're an idiot" that they aren't really helping the cause. They really aren't. I've told many of them this via rep. These balls aren't ginormous, but they're more than enough to fill up your big mouth.

 

[The Champ]

All of Coco fault's were known prior to this election. Who amongst us hasn't been trolled by Coco at least once? It's almost like a forum rite of passage at this point.

I've known the guy for like five years and he's trolled me plenty of times.

Everyone knows he trolls people. If people suddenly realized that because Sly said it, they need to work on their ability to think for themselves.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Well, some of us have been going on for a while that a spam mod was not needed and that Coco does not care and that he is a troll. Sly repeated all three accussations in his debates as things that would hinder Coco if he gets elected.

About the Dagger being homophobic thing J, I've been meaning to ask for a while, if it was such an offensive statement then why didn't you guys tackle that issue with him when he made that post. I remember FSWWE making a very homophobic post in that thread and he was swiftly disposed. Why didn't you or any other guy do the same with Dagger?

I can only speak for myself but some arguments are not worth having when you consider the source of said comments.

But anyway you look at it, if you support Dagger you are supporting someone that would repress their own child for their sexual preferences. I know it doesn't translate in to his ability as a mod but how do you justify that? What values do you look for in the people you want to help succeed? Personally, when adults damage children (gay or straight) they are not high on my list of people I value and want to help succeed.

 

[Serious Mozzarella]

Wow, this totally doesn't sound like you making a big deal out of something you later claim isn't a big deal to you. Yup. Totally doesn't.

Okay, well that's not what "reactionary" means. "Reactionary" is someone who opposes political change. In this context, my support of Coco is the exact opposite of that. Be honest, are you upset because I said something in a way that wasn't apologetic, and can be taken as a little aggressive? Are you upset because I'm arguing with your friends? What's the real reason you have a problem with me?

Because it seems to me that you're just repeating the same false issues LSN had with me.

More of that "this is all just lulz to me" stuff, right? I mean, why would anyone think you are being serious? Why try to counteract the strategy of pm'ing for votes when you can just alienate those noobs and ensure they will vote Dagger? Yup. Totally doesn't sound like you care.

Frazzle unicorns and bacon ranch dressing with glitter and brooms.

I might as well just start typing out nonsense because you're not reading what I'm saying anyway.

Also, people need to have 10 non-spam posts to vote. Again, I thought you were smarter than that. I really have a hard time believing that many people would sign up for an account, get pm'd about a vote, go out and post that many non-spam posts correctly, and then come back in here just to vote because someone asked them to. Maybe Dagger really is better with noobs than people give him credit for. Maybe offering one big ball of rep like the Coco gang has recently isn't as effective as unsolicited green rep from Dagger for making posts. Or maybe people are just turned off by the negative that you and many others continue to spout.

All I've ever given were my own opinions as for why he wouldn't be a good mod. You did too. But suddenly, I'm the only one who's been this aggressive leader of negativity that's forcing people to vote for Dagger.

And no, I have no problem telling everyone who posts something like "vote for Dagger and you're an idiot" that they aren't really helping the cause. They really aren't. I've told many of them this via rep. These balls aren't ginormous, but they're more than enough to fill up your big mouth.

Except I've never said these things. I think I asked BK to explain his reasons, because they were unclear. Otherwise, I haven't done one thing you're attributing to me.

This is just turning into a game of

"You said this"
"No I didn't"
"Yes you did"
"No I didn't"
"Yes you did"
"No I didn't"
"Yes you did"
"No I didn't"
"Yes you did"

I'm getting tired of it, I'm getting tired of this. I don't want to argue anymore.

You can believe whatever you want to believe.

Until you start calling out the people with the R.I.P WZ FORUMS sigs, or people who have literally said, "anyone who votes for Dagger is an idiot," I'm not going to respond to you anymore.

 

[Johnny Scumm]

Will Dagger's tenure as mod consist of;

"Yay I'm a mod!"

"Let me infract the fuckers who were rude to me!"

"Shit, I'm not a mod no more."

 

[The Champ]

Will Dagger's tenure as mod consist of;

"Yay I'm a mod!"

"Let me infract the fuckers who were rude to me!"

"Shit, I'm not a mod no more."

And then they'll do another election and he'll win again.

And the process will repeat until the world ends.

 

[Johnny Scumm]

And then they'll do another election and he'll win again.

And the process will repeat until the world ends.

No, because he quite obviously wouldn't be allowed to run again should he be such a prick. Then someone worthy of winning will become a Mod.

 

[The Champ]

ryan86?

 

[a0161613]

Huh?

 

[GI Cake]

Will Dagger's tenure as mod consist of;

"Yay I'm a mod!"

"Let me infract the fuckers who were rude to me!"

"Shit, I'm not a mod no more."

I highly doubt Dagger would infract people 'just because' As far as I can tell, Dagger is immature but I don't think he would ruin everything he worked for.

 

[Johnny Scumm]

I highly doubt Dagger would infract people 'just because' As far as I can tell, Dagger is immature but I don't think he would ruin everything he worked for.

Oh after all this, I can imagine him doing it just "For the hell". He's never truly jumped in when we've been talking about him, I doubt he's posted once in this thread, why wouldn't he take any anger he may have out on us right there & then?

 

[Peoples_Champ]

Will Dagger reach 50%?

Also, 22 hours until Dagger is a mod.

 

[GI Cake]

Oh after all this, I can imagine him doing it just "For the hell". He's never truly jumped in when we've been talking about him, I doubt he's posted once in this thread, why wouldn't he take any anger he may have out on us right there & then?

If he gets angry for what the forum community thinks about him then he shouldn't even be on the internet in the first place. I don't see why Dagger will be a bad mod. I just think that having 4 mods in one section would be stupid.

 

[¡Roján!]

Coco is literally superior to Dagger in every way. The more people deny that, the more you suffer, and suffering leads to anger, and anger leads to hate. Or something like that. I don't quote new trilogy often.

Masked Kane was in Star Wars!?

 

[DirtyJosé]

And you've misunderstood what I said, but I understand why you think I said it.

I meant to say I don't think of doing this as anymore than I think of surfing Facebook, so it's bullshit to say, "you're taking this too seriously," when you don't know how seriously I'm taking it. Whenever my friends get out of class, do you seriously think I'm going to sit here and talk to you? Do you believe I'm going to be thinking about things to say all day, waiting for the moment to get home, to long on and say them?

I've never done anything more than reply to people. If you think I'm thinking about this for even a millisecond after I close this window, then I don't know what to tell you. Keep thinking that.

Reactionary: ADJ
-of, pertaining to, marked by, or favoring reaction.

I place you somewhere in between LSN and Ferbian on my totem pole of "people whose opinions I give a shit about."

So, the people who you respond to the most. Gotcha. Not caring means you spend more of your free time caring. Ok...?

I wonder, are you still butt hurt that I tried to launch a WZCW party which you were afraid was going to steal away members of your own party? I do remember you being quite reactionary and angry about that.

I've been just as vocal, and less aggressive than Dagger's main detractors. Like I said, if you want a real leg to stand on, why don't you call out Pancake, who is doing the shit you're attributing to me, IN THIS VERY THREAD.

I have already.

Do you even know what the word "reactionary" means?

Reactionary: ADJ

-of, pertaining to, marked by, or favoring reaction.

I'm not saying I'm wrong, but you're taking a nice big bite out of the same shit sandwich I'm eating.

More Mozz cop outs. Lol.

I have these opinions because I have these opinions. I don't think Dagger is the nice guy everyone says he is because of his situation with Tasty. I don't think he has the understanding of the rules that being a mod requires. Because of these two reasons, I don't support him. Why is that such a problem for you?

Weren't you the one who pointed out at the start that it didn't matter who won, that the job only entailed pushing buttons mindlessly? Yes, I do think that was you.

I care exactly as much as anyone else cares.

More Mozz cop outs. Lol.

Okay, well that's not what "reactionary" means. "Reactionary" is someone who opposes political change. In this context, my support of Coco is the exact opposite of that. Be honest, are you upset because I said something in a way that wasn't apologetic, and can be taken as a little aggressive? Are you upset because I'm arguing with your friends? What's the real reason you have a problem with me?

I've stated it already, rather clearly.

Also:

Reactionary: ADJ

-of, pertaining to, marked by, or favoring reaction.

Because it seems to me that you're just repeating the same false issues LSN had with me.

And while I butt heads often enough with LSN, I will agree with him that you're full of shit.

All I've ever given were my own opinions as for why he wouldn't be a good mod. You did too. But suddenly, I'm the only one who's been this aggressive leader of negativity that's forcing people to vote for Dagger.

Actually, I used you as an example of such attitudes, not the sole source. That you've been butt hurt enough by it to "care" despite how little you claim to really "care" is only proving my point that you are a reactionary prick.

Except I've never said these things. I think I asked BK to explain his reasons, because they were unclear. Otherwise, I haven't done one thing you're attributing to me.

But why even bother asking for a reason? Does it matter? Does it change things? That kind of shit, from you or from anyone else, is what makes others go "hey, these other guys are assholes, so why should I listen to them?".

 

[shattered dreams]

So damn amusing.

Definitive proof of the "10 percenters" etc and they are still trying to make it about something else because their e-egos can't handle the truth.

 

[Serious Mozzarella]

Reactionary: ADJ
-of, pertaining to, marked by, or favoring reaction.



So, the people who you respond to the most. Gotcha. Not caring means you spend more of your free time caring. Ok...?

I wonder, are you still butt hurt that I tried to launch a WZCW party which you were afraid was going to steal away members of your own party? I do remember you being quite reactionary and angry about that.



I have already.



Reactionary: ADJ

-of, pertaining to, marked by, or favoring reaction.



More Mozz cop outs. Lol.



Weren't you the one who pointed out at the start that it didn't matter who won, that the job only entailed pushing buttons mindlessly? Yes, I do think that was you.



More Mozz cop outs. Lol.



I've stated it already, rather clearly.

Also:

Reactionary: ADJ

-of, pertaining to, marked by, or favoring reaction.



And while I butt heads often enough with LSN, I will agree with him that you're full of shit.



Actually, I used you as an example of such attitudes, not the sole source. That you've been butt hurt enough by it to "care" despite how little you claim to really "care" is only proving my point that you are a reactionary prick.



But why even bother asking for a reason? Does it matter? Does it change things? That kind of shit, from you or from anyone else, is what makes others go "hey, these other guys are assholes, so why should I listen to them?".

1. I mean to say that I DID give a shit about what you say. As well as LSN.
2. I don't anymore.
3. You've shown nothing but hypocrisy.
4. Calling out your hypocrisy is a "cop out" suddenly.
5. You have zero understanding of words, or how to use them (protip: read the rest of the definition you copied off of dictionary.com)
6. I didn't do the shit you're telling me I did. If you want to keep thinking it, go right ahead. Have loads of fun with it.

 

[JGlass]

Well, some of us have been going on for a while that a spam mod was not needed and that Coco does not care and that he is a troll. Sly repeated all three accussations in his debates as things that would hinder Coco if he gets elected.

1) There's no need for a WWE mod either.
2) Coco doesn't really care? I'm glad Sly pointed that out, or I would have never figured!
3) Coco's a troll. So is Sly. So are many of the best posters here. I don't see the problem.

About the Dagger being homophobic thing J, I've been meaning to ask for a while, if it was such an offensive statement then why didn't you guys tackle that issue with him when he made that post. I remember FSWWE making a very homophobic post in that thread and he was swiftly disposed. Why didn't you or any other guy do the same with Dagger?

I didn't know it existed until the election. If I did, I would have ripped Dagger all sorts of new assholes when he first made that post. I can't speak for anyone else.

 

[DirtyJosé]

That's nice.

More Mozz cop outs. Lol.

For not caring, you sure seem hard up to get the last word. I guess they were right about you. Got anything else? No? Ok, shuffle off to your friends now and stay out of trouble today.

I didn't know it existed until the election. If I did, I would have ripped Dagger all sorts of new assholes when he first made that post. I can't speak for anyone else.

That's my stance too. I wasn't around during that time; I usually jump on posts like that when they come up (See also: Furyof5, TwistofRKO). It wasn't brought to my attention until during the election.

 

[shattered dreams]

Jose is right but I am sure he will be back to being an asshole himself tomorrow.

 

[The Crock]

This shit is unbelievable.

 

[The Doctor]

 

[DirtyJosé]

Jose is right but I am sure he will be back to being an asshole himself tomorrow.

I don't think the two (being "right" and being "an asshole") are mutually exclusive.

 

[Kermit]

If you don't find all of this chaos funny then you need to lighten up. Thank you all for a few weeks of entertainment.

For what it is worth, I voted for Crock on the first day.