Sin Cara Suspended!

[klipz.nbd]

I don't know what to think, watching back Sin Cara going through the ladder from Shaemus' powerbomb, he looked legit hurt! Even the way Shaemus reacted made me think it was real. He looked worried and scared - If it was a work then why would Shaemus have reacted the way he did? Surely he would have been bragging and proud of how he just demolished Cara and put him out of work. But something there didn't really fit. Sin Cara must be a GREAT actor if all of that was fake.

Maybe I'm taking a long shot here, but this announcement came AFTER MITB. Is it possible this is a cover up to a real, serious injury??

 

[Nate DaMac]

Maybe I'm taking a long shot here, but this announcement came AFTER MITB. Is it possible this is a cover up to a real, serious injury??

That doesn't make any sense. If he was injured, why would they cover it up? People get hurt, it's the risk you take when you get into the business. Why would they cover it up by saying he took fucking Steroids? There's no reason to hide an injury and there's certainly no reason to discredit the Wellness Policy.

I have to say, if Chavo or Rey didn't get to him beforehand and tell him that he should steer clear of the roids, then they weren't exactly the best role models were they? Both of them have been busted doing it, why wouldn't they tell him not to? If they couldn't beat the system, why would he think that he could.

Furthermore, how the hell did he think he wouldn't get caught? Seriously, you'd think these idiots would learn their lesson at some point.

 

[93178]

As someone who grew up watching the cruiser-weight division in WCW, seeing all of the crazy luchador moves and great matches they used to work, I've found Sin Cara to be pretty underwhelming. Seriously, does he do anything other than botched huricanranas and fancy armdrags? If he's capable of working such great matches in Mexico as we have been told, why haven't we seen anything even close to resembling one?

Because in WCW they had other cruiser-weights who knew how to wrestle the same kind of style and speed that each other where doing. They didn't have them in there with people like Shaemus every week who work a very different style and can't do the high flying moves with them. If your wrestling a high flyer style with lots of flips and jumps, and the person you with in there can't do those flips and jumps at the same speed as you, its going to look like total shit and thats what we are seeing. Rey had time to get used to the American style and thats why he doesn't do most of the high flying things any more (also because of his age). Cara got no time to adjust because he was rushed onto TV with no time in FCW.

As for the suspension, ya it sucks. This is going to be something else they have to hold against him know. As others have said, its no secret steroids are kind of common in Mexican Wrestling so if thats something he's been using down there it could take time to get used to wrestling without them. In WWE he needs to stop right at that moment he got signed, obviously that didn't happen. I highly doubt they would fire him over this one thing. I could see them punishing him on-air for the first few weeks hes back by having big guys destroy him in the ring or something like that though and hold what ever push he may have had lined up back a little bit. But I doubt hes getting fired this fast.

 

[attackgypsy]

What Sin Cara is now claiming is that his doctor gave him an injection for his knee injury in Mexico, and that is what caused the bad test.

If I read the Wellness Policy correctly, since this was a valid prescription, seeing as all injections are prescribed, the strike would be reversed and the suspension withdrawn.

Of course, I may be wrong.

 

[Notorious718]

I can't bring myself to give much of a damn about this but it does explain why he was taken out at MITB. I am a bit curious about how this will affect his push since he's being labeled as HHH's pet project. Reports claim that he won't be coming back right away even after his 30 day suspension is up. I'm too lazy to do the math but I'm guessing its safe to assume that if that's the case, he won't be back for Summerslam which I think would hurt him slightly.

As for momentum, I guess he'll lose some of it but I think he could bounce back by being put in a revenge angle with Sheamus. I mean, to me it sounds like the most logical route to go when he comes back.

 

[Remix]

I don't know what to think, watching back Sin Cara going through the ladder from Shaemus' powerbomb, he looked legit hurt! Even the way Shaemus reacted made me think it was real. He looked worried and scared - If it was a work then why would Shaemus have reacted the way he did? Surely he would have been bragging and proud of how he just demolished Cara and put him out of work. But something there didn't really fit. Sin Cara must be a GREAT actor if all of that was fake.

Maybe I'm taking a long shot here, but this announcement came AFTER MITB. Is it possible this is a cover up to a real, serious injury??

you've got it backwards. He was powerbombed through a ladder to give an onscreen reason for him to be gone for the next thirty days. It's completely backwards to cover up an injury (which doesn't reflect badly on the company) with a failed drug test (which does).

What Sin Cara is now claiming is that his doctor gave him an injection for his knee injury in Mexico, and that is what caused the bad test.

Wrong sort of steroid. Go read my thread in the Potluck section for more on that. Sin Cara knows exactly what he did, and by pleading ignorant about steroids and saying that he was given them for his knee would make people who don't know there's a difference between cortisone and nandrolone would think he was unjustly suspended.

If I read the Wellness Policy correctly, since this was a valid prescription, seeing as all injections are prescribed, the strike would be reversed and the suspension withdrawn.

Yes, but he'd have had to do that within 72 hours after being told his piss wasn't clean and if it was valid (which it wouldn't be) he never would have been suspended.

However, even if he did get a legit steroid injection in his knee that's not why he failed.

Of course, I may be wrong.

You are.

 

[LuChava]

Sin Cara is not hurt, it was an easy way to erase him from TV and suspend him for taking pain killers.

His real punishment was releasing his name to the public, which in Lucha terms was pretty f'd up to do. But releasing his name also helped WWE prove their point on the Sin Cara trademark battle theyve been having with the US Govt.

When Sin Cara does return I dont think we will see the romantic lighting anymore. Heck he might get squashed in a few matches, I could see him get darted in to wall by Shemus like Big Show did to Rey.

 

[Trill Co$by]

Sin Cara is not hurt, it was an easy way to erase him from TV and suspend him for taking pain killers.

His real punishment was releasing his name to the public, which in Lucha terms was pretty f'd up to do. But releasing his name also helped WWE prove their point on the Sin Cara trademark battle theyve been having with the US Govt.

When Sin Cara does return I dont think we will see the romantic lighting anymore. Heck he might get squashed in a few matches, I could see him get darted in to wall by Shemus like Big Show did to Rey.

You mean the name that WWE.com revealed first? Makes now sense to me.

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Another possibility for the positive could be that he had something with poppy seeds in them. It's been proven that if you eat enough, then there's something in the poppy seed that causes drug tests to come up positive. Then again, since a lot of people know this, it's often told to patients who are taking drug tests not to eat poppy seeds before their tests.

Idk what it is, but in the end, he really shouldn't be on TV much anyways. If anything, he should be in FCW working with someone like Rollins and Steamboat to get used to how american wrestling is as opposed to the Lucha style he's used to... or they can stick him with Rhodes and hope something happens.

 

[Remix]

Sin Cara is not hurt, it was an easy way to erase him from TV and suspend him for taking pain killers.

He's pretty much confirmed that he got caught for anabolic steroids. And painkillers aren't going to get confused with anabolic steroids any time soon

When Sin Cara does return I dont think we will see the romantic lighting anymore. Heck he might get squashed in a few matches, I could see him get darted in to wall by Shemus like Big Show did to Rey.

I don't think he's going to be getting buried after he returns. WWE's invested a lot into him, and he's still a legit draw.

Another possibility for the positive could be that he had something with poppy seeds in them. It's been proven that if you eat enough, then there's something in the poppy seed that causes drug tests to come up positive. Then again, since a lot of people know this, it's often told to patients who are taking drug tests not to eat poppy seeds before their tests.

Morphine, codeine and any other opiate you're likely to stumble upon when eating poppy seeds aren't going to get confused with testosterone derrivatives (i.e. anabolic steroids).

 

[LuChava]

Sin Cara has already said in an interview in Mexico that he was not on roids. Now if you have followed his career you know he has taken some sick bumps.

As for being over thats hard to say, on tv the WWE goes out of their way adding fake cheers, planting signs, and kids in mask to make a guy look like he is over with the crowd. He is definitely over in Mexico which at tis point is his only chip left.

I Wouldn't be shocked if over the next 30 days Sin Cara and Averno will be sharpening their timing for an epic match at Summer Slam.

 

[Remix]

Sin Cara has already said in an interview in Mexico that he was not on roids. Now if you have followed his career you know he has taken some sick bumps.

No, he said he doesn't know why he failed the test (a lie, WWE tell you why you fail the test so you can send them your doctor's note) but that a lot of medicines contain "esteroids" and he had an "esteroid" injection in his knee. Which has the benefit of being true and false at the same time. It is TRUE that a lot of medicines contain steroids, and it is very possible that he had an injection of a steroid in his knee. However, that steroid would NOT be the reason he failed the test. I explain this in more detail in my Kemical Korner, so click the link in my sig and I'll enlighten you there.

As for being over thats hard to say, on tv the WWE goes out of their way adding fake cheers, planting signs, and kids in mask to make a guy look like he is over with the crowd. He is definitely over in Mexico which at tis point is his only chip left.

All true

I Wouldn't be shocked if over the next 30 days Sin Cara and Averno will be sharpening their timing for an epic match at Summer Slam.

They won't because Sin Cara's suspension doesn't end until a few days AFTER SummerSlam.

 

[Jessie Lynn DivaGirl]

Wait, what? What did this kid do??
I don't think he's a moron, but I would like to know what happened. Don't rag on the guy forgetting suspended, we all make mistakes.

I just want to know, what did he do that violated the welleness policy? Looked like regular high-flier stuff if you ask me

 

[Remix]

Wait, what? What did this kid do??

Steroids, of the anabolic variety. Supposedly Nandrolone, which was Linford Christie's crutch of choice.

I don't think he's a moron, but I would like to know what happened.

I just told you.

Don't rag on the guy for getting suspended, we all make mistakes.

As things go, failing a piss test for an anabolic steroid, lying about it to papers while being given a push despite consistently turning in performances that are well below the expected standard is a pretty damn stupid thing to do. The rest of the roster can keep in shape without using steroids (or if they do use them, they have the brains to get a fucking presciption first).

 

[JWGunslinger]

Unfortunately it seems that I have gone from loving Cara when he joined us a few months ago to now not giving two shits that he isn't going to be around. I don't dislike him but I have simply lost interest because he hasn't been involved in anything exciting, and if he keeps getting in trouble and mixing bad shit up them I'm wondering how long it will be til WWE decides he isn't worth it. Hopefully he puts his shit together and becomes the next Mysterio but for now it's up in the air. If he does end up leaving soon I would be a little sad because the one thing I want from him is either a good feud or alliance with Rey, I'd be very interested in how they would do that.

 

[SuperSteve16]

Sin Cara is now off the Summerslam poster, and it is being reported they he may be gone from the company alltogether very soon. I think if the WWE releases Sin Cara it will be a big loss. The WWE has spent alot of money promoting this guy and will lose alot of money if he gets released. Sin Cara has the potential of putting on great matches with the likes of Mysterio, Bourne and Bryan and it would be a shame for someone with that much potential to be released. Everybody makes mistakes and the way I see it, Cara might have not eve known that he had done anything wrong

 

[The Calgary Kid]

Because in WCW they had other cruiser-weights who knew how to wrestle the same kind of style and speed that each other where doing. They didn't have them in there with people like Shaemus every week who work a very different style and can't do the high flying moves with them. If your wrestling a high flyer style with lots of flips and jumps, and the person you with in there can't do those flips and jumps at the same speed as you, its going to look like total shit and thats what we are seeing. Rey had time to get used to the American style and thats why he doesn't do most of the high flying things any more (also because of his age). Cara got no time to adjust because he was rushed onto TV with no time in FCW.

They haven't had him in there with Sheamus every week. They have thrown him a lot of bones in his match-ups, booking him in matches with Chavo, Primo, DBD, Kidd, Bourne, et al, who wrestle in high-flyer/cruiser style, have familiarity with Mexican lucha style, and know how to work those matches. Of course I don't expect him to perfectly execute a huricanrana on Mark Henry or whatever. They haven't asked him to, either. I object to a guy being able to hand-pick his opponents, or be fed people who will make him look better, and him not being able to capitalize on it. I cannot think of anyone, especially a mid-carder, in the history of wrestling who has been given such preferential treatment. It's kind of disturbing how long of a leash they've given him when you consider how they dealt with Kaval.