Sin Cara Suspended!

[Cenation716]

I think its just a very unfortunate thing for WWE & Sin Cara right now. At the height of great publicity for WWE right now with the current CM Punk storyline, which is the best thing WWE has going for them right now, it's just, well, as I said, unfortunate. You know that media outlets & other organizations are going to find out about this & criticize WWE for it. Sin Cara was in the middle of a great push. He went undefeated for a few good weeks. He went over guys like Swagger & Sheamus & had a good showing at MiTB last night (before getting written off TV with that brutal High Cross). He was my pick to win MiTB & one has to wonder if he was originally planned to. Barrett, Kane or Sheamus, even Rhodes, were of course Superstars that wouldn't have shocked the WWE Universe (and the IWC) if they had won, but the other 4 were. Gabriel & Slater don't have enough star power, a huge fan following or a huge push behind them, Daniel Bryan has the wrestling ability but has been in WWE less than a year since returning last year at SS & can't cut a great promo at main event level & Cara can't even speak English. But WWE likes to shock us sometimes & with a huge push behind him, one could assume he was in for the win at MiTB. He has only lost one match, and after that, he went back to winning, I just don't see WWE throwing him in a dangerous ladder match, only to have him lose it when they could have had him in a singles match winning, I don't think WWE would've had him in a ppv match to lose. I don't think he will start jobbing, maybe lose a match here & there more often & lose some respect from some of the talent & WWE officials & executives, but I don't think his push will be de-railed that much. However, as a guy that the IWC was raving about saying how he was a breath of fresh air will soon be saying how he's nothing but a druggie, has no talent & blah, blah, blah. I for one think he still IS a breath of fresh air, has talent & I will not criticize the guy over this mishap.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

Sin Cara?!?! Well, this certainly is a shock for me, because I would never suspect Cara to receive a suspension.

This is bad news, because Cara's debut was hyped up in a big way, and he has received a nice little push in WWE so far. Whatever momentum he had sure is going to come to a screeching halt now, and it'll be interesting to see if he can recover from this when he returns.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

Sin Cara = Stupid F'n Moron

Way to blow your push Sin Cara. I know he is HHH's pet project but so far he hasn't been doing too great with his inability to talk and his constant botches every match.

The guy comes in, despite getting a lukewarm reaction the guy gets pushed hard, loses maybe once or twice and gets himself suspended by doing drugs. WWE and HHH has put alot of work into Sin Cara and for him to blow it in this fashion is pathetic. He can bounce back from this (as he is gonna be with Sheamus when he comes back) but I can see the WWE being very apprehensive giving him another push and shot, especially considering he was blowing his push even before he got suspended.

Sin Cara, you are stupid, end of story.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Sin Cara = Stupid F'n Moron

Way to blow your push Sin Cara. I know he is HHH's pet project but so far he hasn't been doing too great with his inability to talk and his constant botches every match.

The guy comes in, despite getting a lukewarm reaction the guy gets pushed hard, loses maybe once or twice and gets himself suspended by doing drugs. WWE and HHH has put alot of work into Sin Cara and for him to blow it in this fashion is pathetic. He can bounce back from this (as he is gonna be with Sheamus when he comes back) but I can see the WWE being very apprehensive giving him another push and shot, especially considering he was blowing his push even before he got suspended.

Sin Cara, you are stupid, end of story.

True, but it all depends on what he did take. If he did pot, while bad its not as if other wrestlers never took this before. If its steroids ( doubt it because he is way too small and no muscles) not that is really stupid considering roid rage. Now we don't know what he took, but i heard WWE added Spice ( a legal form of pot) to the banned substance list recently so maybe thats it.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

True, but it all depends on what he did take. If he did pot, while bad its not as if other wrestlers never took this before. If its steroids ( doubt it because he is way too small and no muscles) not that is really stupid considering roid rage. Now we don't know what he took, but i heard WWE added Spice ( a legal form of pot) to the banned substance list recently so maybe thats it.

Although I agree that what he took does depend greatly on how it will be handled it certainly did himself no favors by taking whatever he did take to get suspended. If he took spice for example I don't think he would have been suspended because if it was that chances are he didn't know so they would have just talked to him and kept it under the table, the same as pot.

On another note I hear that they are giving huge fines for smoking pot but I still don't think it constitutes a suspension in the WWE (I could be wrong but that's what I was lead to believe) especially if it only happened once.

If its something that could be considered "Not a big deal" (like Spice) then he will do his time, probably job for a while and get another push but even in that situation (which is probably best case scenario) he will do himself no favors by ruining his first push they gave him.

 

[HorsemenNo4]

It's pretty funny that the main page says he's injured and will be out for 4 weeks but if you do some digging on the website, you see he is suspended. WWE is trying to cover it up but no really? I don't remember them ever doing that before but I guess that's their attempt to keep the push going when he returns. It pays to be Triple H's pet project.

Also, hope it's a recreational drug and nothing overly serious.

 

[wrestlingfan]

Well it's no surprise, So far every superstar has been convicted of steroid allegations once, In a way I can't feel bad for Sin Cara, He's a young mexican in WWE straight out of Mexico then weeks passed and people abackstage are saying he botches, If anything the poor guy thought steroids would help his wrestling ability.

 

[H33LTurn]

I thought he was looking a bit thicker, didnt know that it was cuz of steroids. I mean if Funaki took them and he was tiny then I guess I shouldnt be so surprised that Sin is taking them too (if thats what he got suspended for). I would've just fired him, what an idiotic move. You have HHH on your side as well as the push of a lifetime and you fuck it up? Its a shame that guys like him are given so much without earning the company's trust while there are other guys who would never do something so stupid and get cut from the roster.

 

[Heavens Vibe]

I reccon its jsut prescription drugs that are on the list that are easily available in Mexico compared to the US, only sad thing is, wasn't Averno supposed to be moving to WWE next week or something?

 

[TheKingHustla]

I think he probably was on something in Mexico, something that is legal there, and didn't realize that it was illegal here. That, or he fel like he was too small to compete in this bigger, badder, better (WWE '12 tie in) business so he tried to bulk up fast. Either way, he blew what was a great push, although I think the WWE handled it greatly with having him injured in the MITB match, giving the normal fans a great excuse for him not being on the show any time soon, which could make his push even better due to anticipation and not knowing when he'll come back, seeing how it'll only be a month, which is usually only four shows and a PPV. Unlike Kharma, who many people have forgotten about already.

 

[Dagger Dias]

This is disappointing news. Sin Cara was being given a huge push but then he goes and gets a suspension. Trips will obviously not be happy as Sin Cara was someone he is really wanting to push. People do make mistakes so hopefully Sin Cara can come back from this better than ever and more determined to earn his push. I don't see this hurting his push TOO much unless it happens again. That's when he would be in major trouble.

 

[Peep]

This is certainly a surprise. The "injury" last night was obviously a spot as several have pointed out regarding the ladder being rigged to break. I never would've guessed at the time it was done to write him off of television due to a suspension.

Only one thing in the Wellness Policy can get you suspended and it's drugs. What those drugs are, we may not find out. It could've been recreational use (marijuana, for example). Perhaps he took a banned substance on accident - not believing it was banned. Or maybe he just straight up juiced. Any is possible and the third is a real possibility. You don't have to be big to juice (look at Rey). In fact, I think there's a bit of pressure on smaller guys to become bigger just to make themselves more credible.

All that said, I don't want to jump to conclusions. It's unfair to Sin Cara to claim he was juicing when it could've been something less serious.

Regardless, I do expect him to seamlessly transition back to television in a month. Call it unfair, but chances are he still has the brass behind him after this - namely Hunter. I said this on the Christian thread, but I expect a feud between him and Sheamus to start. That'll obviously have to wait thirty days now, but I do expect Sin Cara to return looking for "retribution" on the Celtic Warrior for "shelving" him for a month.

 

[Gabriiel07]

Hey who knows, maybe he ate some meat in Mexico and he got a bad result in the test for clembuterol, like it happened to the Mexican national football team, an unlikely choice, but who knows.

 

[attackgypsy]

Yes it does. However only one of those things can get you suspended. Hint: it's drugs.



Nope, it invariably is drugs.



That didn't get him suspended, genius.



The facts are that Sin Cara violated the wellness policy and was suspended. That means there were drug metabolites in his urine. if he wasn't taking drugs or he thought it was a false positive he could get a second urine sample tested, or supply a valid prescription to say he's got a reason to have drugs in his system. Whether he did or not, he's still suspended so he was on something. Odds are Sin Cara was in pain, took some prescription pain killers to deal wit that pain and the doctor he got it from (assuming he got it from a doctor and not an online pharmacy, which would magnify the stupidity tenfold) wasn't WWE approved. No excuses here. Sin Cara fucked up.

Or he refused to piss in a cup, which is counted as a fail. Can't see why he'd do that if he didn't have something in his system since he had to to get the job, but rules are rules.

Did I even -SAY- MVP was suspended, genius? No. I said it was a violation, not that he was suspended.

But like I did say, it was probably drugs.

 

[Remix]

Did I even -SAY- MVP was suspended, genius? No. I said it was a violation, not that he was suspended.

That wasn't a violation, that was a diagnosis followed by treatment. At no stage did he violate the terms of the wellness policy. Saying that he did is like saying someone who gets concussed violates the policy. Which is a ******ed, ass backwards statement.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Can't say I've got the slightest bit of sympathy for the guy. The WWE's been treating the guy right, there's no doubt about that, and he's been in the middle of a substantial push. According to what I read a few minutes ago, there's backstage rumors that Sin Cara might not even be brought back once his 30 day suspension is up.

At any rate, whatever push Sin Cara was enjoying is probably going to be brought to a screeching halt. They'll use him being powerbomed on the ladder by Sheamus as a cover for his suspension but everyone'll know what's really going on.

As far as the steroids talk, it's possible that he's on them. The term steroid in and of itself has become something of a generic word to describe any and all performance enhancing drugs. Not all steroids promote an increase in muscle size. Some of them are used to help keep the muscles lean and to maintain or increase definition.

 

[HorsemenNo4]

With this new article reporting he's suspended because of steriods and may not be brought back, I really wonder where this will lead. What happened to the '3 strikes and you're out rule?' When did it become 1 strike and you're out? I hope this isn't the last we've seen of him. He's brought some excitement to the lightweights and made them into something more than Jobbers (as they have been for awhile now).

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Funny how you have people who have seen he isn't getting over going "who gives a shit, what a jackass" and people who are mistico marks going "fuckin WWE I wanna see kewl moovez, of course he's gonna do drugs to tolerate the pain and mistreatment".

Anyways, the fact that WWE took time to have him get taken out with an "injury" and look like a million bucks just before that, and that Cara sold the injury with seizures and Lawler saying "that means nerve or spinal damage" means they'll have him back whenever his suspension is up.

 

[Peep]

With this new article reporting he's suspended because of steriods and may not be brought back, I really wonder where this will lead. What happened to the '3 strikes and you're out rule?' When did it become 1 strike and you're out? I hope this isn't the last we've seen of him. He's brought some excitement to the lightweights and made them into something more than Jobbers (as they have been for awhile now).

The two reports out there are shocking. PWInsider is saying that suspension has been in the works since June. And then there's F4WOnline saying he may not be brought back at all.

That seems a bit premature. Seriously, one strike? I understand the need to send a message to decrease these kind of violations, but one would think that "Hunter's pet project" would have a longer leash.

I'll believe it when I see it (him being gone). Common sense says he'll be back after his suspension and it'll stay that way until there is a definitive report saying otherwise.

If he is gone for good, this will have been one of the fastest debuts to have gone from rise to the moon to fall from grace.

 

[The Calgary Kid]

It could be that the first two strikes already existed in the form of: 1. constant botches and poorly worked matches, 2. brass being frustrated by his inability to capitalize on everything they've given him to get over. It could be that they were already reaching the end of the proverbial rope with him. They had been bending over backwards to give him matches with people who would potentially make him look better, moving him to the taped show to be able to edit botches out of his matches, dimming the lights... It wouldn't be the least bit surprising to me if they just feel that they have put more work into this guy than they would/should do for anyone, and the steroid violation are viewed as a slap in the face and last straw. Let's face it, if he was a guy they brought over from TNA or an FCW call-up, he'd have been gone months ago.

As someone who grew up watching the cruiser-weight division in WCW, seeing all of the crazy luchador moves and great matches they used to work, I've found Sin Cara to be pretty underwhelming. Seriously, does he do anything other than botched huricanranas and fancy armdrags? If he's capable of working such great matches in Mexico as we have been told, why haven't we seen anything even close to resembling one? Arguably, the best match he had here was against Christian, who carried him through the whole thing. Coincidentally, it was the one match he's lost. Maybe the best thing for him, his comfort and his career is to go back to Mexico.

 

[The Doctor]

Feels bad man. I love Sin Cara, but if he was dumb enough to get suspended it's on his own head. Hopefully this will teach him a lesson because I find the guy interesting and exciting and want to see him succeed. Plus, I really like his attire and want to buy a white Sin Cara mask when I go to Smackdown in September and hopefully see him flip and flop live.

On a side note, the report that he "may not be brought back" is almost certainly bogus. It came from unreliable sources (F4W and Wrestlezone) and WWE.com reported in their kayfabe story about his injury that he'll be back in about four weeks.

 

[WCWMondayNitroOnYT]

This is interesting because last night at the ppv I spotted a "Sin enough Cara" sign. I guess that fan got his wish. Trip has given this kid everything and then he goes taking steroids? He just made Hunter look like a fool and I wouldn't be surprised if Cara doesn't return. I've never seen anything good from Cara. All I've seen is constant botches, wrestling in annoying blue lighting and now knowing he's shooting up. I'm still wondering about the hype regarding his signing. He's nothing compared to a young Rey Mysterio circa 1996-97.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

It could be roids. Roids don't always make you look like schwartzenegger. No all steroids are the same either. Could be a recreational drug too. All sorts of things it could be. Pretty sure the Mexican national team recently got in trouble too for drugs. Mexico must just have an unknown drug problem.....

I don't think it'd be totally unfair to keep pushing him when he comes back other than they've already spent a lot of time on him and it sort of started to take. I don't know the exact date for SummerSlam but a match in front of an LA crowd would be good for him. as long as they stop with the stupid lighting.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Look at my signature and my avatar; you now know that I am crushed!

Not really, but I do have some sympathy for the guy. I mean, its common knowledge that steroids are rampant in Mexican wrestling, even still to do this day, but I never expected Mistico to be a guy who would need them. He isn't a big guy, yeah they may have been for something else, as steroids are used to rebuild tissues as well. But Jesus Christ, when you have the talent of a guy like him you really shouldn't be getting yourself involved in crap like drugs.

I personally hope to see him back - I say this because from several different reports I've read, the line, "WWE may not bring him back after suspention," is indeed very worrying to see.

 

[Skullz Crack'Em]

Good riddance, the guy was nothing but a botchfest that WWE desperately wanted to replace Mysterio with, since his days as a wrestler are numbered. How big of an idiot could Sin Cara be? The Wellness Policy has become publicly known about for 3 or more years now, he had Triple H's blessing and the potential to be the next Rey Mysterio, but fucked up big time. If they don't bring him back after his suspension I won't lose sleep over it, he brought this upon himself.