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NO. to your entire post. Since Hogan came the ratings have gone up and stayed up. The internet is all a buzz with people talking about TNA, something that hasn't happened in a long time. The 6 sided ring was neither original, or ground breaking. It has been used in Mexico and Japan long before TNA. Tna's product right now is outshining WWE's by leaps and bounds. Why do the WWE marks always seem to trickle into the wrong forum?
No. Hell its the only reason I am watching TNA. I am not a mark for old guys who give me a nostalgic feeling. I am a mark for interesting TV characters who can entertain me. Which is Hogan,Bishoff,The Band,Team 3D,Nasty Boys,Angle,Flair,Venis, and Sting. I just like to be entertained something WWE isnt doing right now. Also something TNA's over hyped young talent fails to do. Does wrestling not groom the younger guys to have personality anymore? Serioulsy I have watched TNA since the weekly PPV shows. The 6 sided ring has always been stupid. Aj Styles as the champion is about as good as sheamus as champion. Aj Styles is not over mainstream and he cannot carry this company on his back. They need Sting or Angle to do that. Two people who can still wrestle average matches and are known world wide!
NO. to your entire post. Since Hogan came the ratings have gone up and stayed up. The internet is all a buzz with people talking about TNA, something that hasn't happened in a long time. The 6 sided ring was neither original, or ground breaking. It has been used in Mexico and Japan long before TNA. Tna's product right now is outshining WWE's by leaps and bounds. Why do the WWE marks always seem to trickle into the wrong forum?
Why don't we wait a few months-years until we decide if Bischoff and Hogan have already destroyed the product. Face it, with all these guys being in TNA, they are getting exposure and gaining popularity. All I hear is how TNA sucks, but when I watch it and see guys like Flair, Hardy, Bischoff, and Hogan, I feel like they can turn the product around. In order for your company to become a top dog company, you need to take risks and actions to get you where you need to be. TNA did just that by bringing in very popular (but older) guys to try and attract more older fans.
See this is what burns me up about guys who post to this and the media in general. For the last 2 years all I have heard on this site was such a bad job Russo was doing. How TNA has gone away from wrestling and that their show is hard to watch. You guys wanted change and now that "Change has Come" you complain about that...Boy oh Boy. Damn guys, give it a chance. Bischoff is a genius remember. Ok you got guys in WWE whom some have been around for as long as Hogan and longer than Bischoff...where's the beef about that. No one mind when Hogan or Flair returned to WWE. Now that they are with another company you guys have problems...Relax, it's just wrestling. I guarantee it will work. It did once, Eazy-E will do it A-GAIN!!!
Why should Hogan and Bischoff leave TNA when in reality, they have done everything absolutely right?
They have captured the attention of the wrestling world.
They have brought Impact to it's highest ratings ever.
They have successfully moved Impact to Monday nights to better position themselves to take fans away from the WWE product.
I have been more entertained by their shows as of late compared to at any other point overall in TNA history.
They eliminated the 6 sided ring so they will be taken seriously by casual wrestling fans.
TNA has done absolutely everything correct under Hogan and Bischoff. This has resulted in the most attention that TNA has ever received as a company. It makes not a shred of sense to get rid of them.
I agree withboth of these posters. WHy get rid of guys who have done what they went out to do? They wanted to make TNA bigger and in three weeks the internet is buzzing over TNA. Look at the messages and the stats on this site alone. People need to let this go on a bit more before people jump to their half assed conclussions that "TNA Iz Gonna DYE!" Hellif I wasn't a fan of TNA and didnt keep up with it and I flipped around on Thursday and I saw Flair or Hogan I would think, "Wait! Did I just see Ric Flair or Hogan?" I would instantly turn and watch it and see the older guys then no doubt the younger guys would make me get more interested with guys like Styles the Guns, and Wolfe then see guys I knew in Dinero or Angle and the legends I love like Nash & Stinger. It's the only way to get people to watch. As much as I love the originals like Joe, Daniels & Styles NO ONE was going to tune in just to see them. Unless you knew about TNA & Roh from the beggining you don't know these guys and NO ONE watches guys they don't know unless there is something else on teh show they do know as well.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Why don't we wait a few months-years until we decide if Bischoff and Hogan have already destroyed the product. Face it, with all these guys being in TNA, they are getting exposure and gaining popularity. All I hear is how TNA sucks, but when I watch it and see guys like Flair, Hardy, Bischoff, and Hogan, I feel like they can turn the product around. In order for your company to become a top dog company, you need to take risks and actions to get you where you need to be. TNA did just that by bringing in very popular (but older) guys to try and attract more older fans.
Check your facts on the Arquette angle. Funny how you bring up Ted Turner's Money. I see and Energy Drink Company's money paying or atleast front loading the contracts of these guys. That's what I mean right there. Relax dude. I guarantee you that they are not making half as much as they did when there where in WCW, but they are there. Guarantee you that TNA will get to that 2.0 rating by the end of the year.Eazy-E doesn't have Ted Turner's billions behind him this time. Their product looks low budget. Eric also let WCW die by having Goldberg lose too early and anyone who let's David Arquette wear the title should be shot.
So should Hogan leave TNA? It was doing fine without him and Bishoff and many feel that he will destroy an orginisation that was differant to WWE in many ways. The X division, The six sided ring, The enterance tunnels and the things that made it feel new and alive. now, its WCW in disguise, its trying to be WWE and its not working. What are your thoughts on this?
Let me just explain something. I am a wrestling fan. Im not a WWE mark. Im not siding with either orginisation. Neither company is 100% perfect.Yes i will say that WWE is bigger, has more talent and no one is going to get close to them. Hogan would not be the icon he is without WWE and Eric Bishoff will be remembered as the man who killed WCW. He then came into WWE and tried to muscle in on that as well. He is obcessed with beating WWE and in the process has already killed one company. Im not saying TNA is rubbish as its not. Im just telling it how I see it and thats that
There's such a double edge to the sword when it comes to the two that are Bischoff and Hogan. One, is the popularity of Hogan that TNA will definitely benefit from. The company gained far more media and exposure than ever before because of him and will only continue to push forward with Hogan's top name celebrity status, the Hulkamaniacs and the TNA fans. There's no being doubtful that ever since a slump down in the stagnant 1.0's that Hogan has risen it back to 1.3 and even broke record with an increase to a one-time 1.5 with his presence.
However for the creative side, this is why I'd say yes, get rid of Hogan and Bischoff. No hesitation. Because right now all I'm seeing is too many shades of gray conducted that were partial reasons contributed to the WCW demise. Giving away free matches on cable TV just before they air on PPV and then again on the iMPACT after the PPV? Are you nuts? Do you not want TNA fans to pay for your PPVs? Do you not want to motivate your casuals to check a PPV out? Or how about the overfilled roster cap of talent being bound to one two hour tv program where instead, you have old hacks being employed and taking up the screen time while many other young talent aren't even on the show. The identity of the promotion is gone with the six sided ring removal, as that was their distinction (at least in America) as being the only prominent promotion to feature a six sided ring. Bubba the Love Sponge replacing Borash alone is a frikkin abomination. The production crew telling their audience their "cast members" is horrendous and very reprehensible. Them planning to have AJ Styles be Flair with blond hair? How damn ridiculous is that? AJ will never be Flair and AJ will always be "The Phenomenal One" not "The Nature Boy". Haha this Hogan/Bischoff era is going to kill TNA, at least based on my instincts and outlook.
If the only identity TNA had was a six sided ring, then they should be thanking their luck stars that Hogan and Bischoff are around now. In any wrestling promotion, your identity and draw has to be the talent, not how many sides your ring has. Yes and I guess you are right. It's an abomination to want your small studio audience full of children not to curse or use profane hand gestures. Again, TNA is taped as if it were a television show, it is nothing like a live WWE event. The producers were well within their rights to ask the "crucial crew" to stop their bad, detrimental to the company behavior. And as someone who regularly attends TNA tapings and has to put up with those CC idiots, I applaud TNA for doing what they did and I only hope that if these fools continue their shenanigans they not be aloud back into the impact zone.
Hi every body I have just registered here on these forums.
First and formost, it was not either Bichoff or Russo that killed WCW. It was the merger of AOL and Time Warner that killed WCW. So every time I read these forums or look at you tube responses all I see is russo and bichoff killed WcW well to lay it all to rest, and I would like to put an end to that and state that the merger KILLED wcw.
2) for all of you hogan haters out there if it were for hogan to save wrestling not once but 7 times all of your favorite wrestlers would have never been. Hogan saved wrestling in 1982, 1984, 1993, 1994, 1996, 2002, and 2010 with the Tna injection. Remember all the years that i mentioned is the years that wrestling took a giant leap and one man was responsiable for that and it was Hogan.
Also people say that Austin in is hey day was more populare then Hogan well how come in Late 98 during Austins height in popularity, They took a national poll Of Clinton vs hogan and 70 percent voted for Hogan and that was Hogan Being more popular then the President of the United States of America and yet the Hogan haters say Austin was more popular is a complete joke. To beat a heavly Popular Pres Like Clinton Is one Hell of accomplishment and that is one thing that Austin will never do.
I agree that it's way too early to be calling for Hogan / Bischoff to be fired. Right now they are trying alot of different things, some I like, some I dislike.
I get a general feeling that there is a nostalgic factor coming into play right now. Everyone is hoping that Hogan / Bischoff will bring back the Monday Night War, which will cause WWE to step it up and provide a better product.
Apparently, Hogan / Bischoff have taken the next step and have gotten TNA moved to Monday nights. Now the question is, what are they going to do to compete with the WWE. All the old guys are nice for nostalgia, but they are not going to draw fans from RAW on a consistent basis.
Hogan / Bischoff have no doubt built up interest and raised TNA's profile. I just wish they would play to TNA strengths, which I think just so happens to be WWE weaknesses:
X-Division
Tag Teams
Knockouts
An increased the focus on these elements would definitely differentiate them from RAW on Mondays.
100 percent right about the merger........ AOL wanted nothing to do with wrestling......TURNER still wanted wcw...aol didnt and wcw was gone..... as i said before originally before aol stepped in , there final show was only supposed to be a season finale which was even billed 2 months prior to the show on wcw..... 2-3 weeks away the season finale changed to the finale,.eric was gonna buy wcw and bring it to fox but vince jumped in and purchased before hand....... the only thing eric and russo did was drive the ratings down...but they didnt kill it.....if u wanna talk killing a company...thats haymen and ecw...which even then vinny mc had a hand in....when he bumped ecw from tnn he basically buried them right there...hayman had no money to run ecw without a network...
