Zeven_Zion
King Of The Ring
No offense intended here, but I'd like to address some of your comments.
First, Hulk Hogan has, for a long time now, been about Hulk Hogan. In fact, I'd venture to guess he'd admit that and probably say he's been that way since he was a rookie in the business. As to his personal life, that's on him. He made that bed, and then put it on television. If he (or his fans) don't like his getting negative attention, he need look no further than his bathroom mirror to find the guy responsible for it. As to his children. Geniuses? Seriously? Dude, I'm not here to bash his kids, but geniuses they aren't. One was so stupid he caused the death of another person because they were street racing. (ENORMOUSLY STUPID!!!) The other thought she could sing and embarked on what is now a failed singing career. Other than that...she's famous for being Hogan's daughter. She's yet to carve out a career of her own, or to prove she is an educated person. In fact, if we're to believe the way she was portrayed on Hogan Knows Best, she's far from the sharpest knife in the drawer. If not, and she 'played' that role for the camera, then she's dumber than I thought.
As for his back surgeries. A product of his wrestling far too much, for far too long. Perhaps he needed the money. Maybe he couldn't walk away. Whatever the reason, he made those choices and suffered the consequences of them. I hardly feel sorry for a man who has probably been a millionaire several times over.
1. If you're not in any business for yourself to a large extent, you're doomed to fail and fail badly. This is not a charity factory, it's not a humanitarian dream. How can you convince millions people that you're the man if you don't consider yourself to be the man? Eh? This is not RVD we're talking about. It's Hulk Hogan.
Hogan's the only one who has spoken on having a big ego. Hogan gets all the heat in the world for being proud of what he did, which by the by is something NO ONE ELSE has ever done or will do. So you basically blame a guy for being extremely proud of himself for accomplishing something that will most likely never be repeated? No? Okay, I can understand that.
So then your problem is him allowing his ego to shadow his judgement and not allow guys to go over him? That's a fair reason to dislike him even though we have zero proof that Hogan actually refused to let people go over. It never dawned upon you that 99% of the time he was simply booked to win? Hogan was a superhero. He was the epitome of larger than life. You don't have Superman get demolished by Aquaman, Robin and The Flash just because they're cool, do you?
But now let's look at someone else. Shawn Michaels. Shawn is a guy who has refused to job time and time again before he was "saved". Again, we have zero proof of that, but if you're going to pretend as if you know, so am I. So Shawn is a guy who has a huge ego as well and has spoken about it. Shawn's a bigger douchebag than Hogan and has been even after his return to the ring in 2002. Shawn's a well-known junkie, alchoholic, shit stirrer and an all-round drama queen of politics. He's the asshole that was a part of The Kliq, and he's nowhere NEAR Hogan's level of success and stardom.
Yet Hogan gets shat on for being an egomaniac, for not letting people beat him, for being a douche and HBK's crap goes unnoticed? I wonder if everyone would be jumping on HBK's dick right now if HE went to WCW and Hogan came back to the WWF. Just saying, there are people who treat Hogan as a traitor. At least no one beating Hogan outright can be easily explained. Character protection. You don't see Cena putting anyone over, right? And he won't until his name means something.
I'm just saying - Hogan's not the only guy with such traits as arrogance, egomania and douchebaggery. He's the only one that was stupid enough to allow people to find out about it.
2. I never called his children geniuses. Re-read my post.
3. His back surgeries? You're blaming a guy for wrestling far too much for far too long? Is that why Edge retired? It never occured to you that the guy simply has a bad back which got worse over the years? I'm 21 and I have a bad lower back. I can't do squats to save my dick. Imagine if I was wrestling. Landing on that damn thing once a week would mess me up when I'm over 40 let alone Hogan. Wrestlers work through injuries no matter how bad they are. Believe it or not, that doesn't help the case.
So gee, let me think. Let's use logic here. Hogan is a 6'7'', around 300 pounds monster and he spent about a decade jumping in the air and landing on his ass night after night. He slammed Andre The Giant which also didn't help the situation. All that pressure on his back was BOUND to be a pain in the ass for the rest of his life. He knew what he was getting into by simply being in this business.
But no, fuck logic, fuck basic human anatomy, fuck common sense, it's Hulk Hogan and we must hate. He wrestled too much for too long because he's got a massive ego and can't let it go and Nick is a dingleberry!!!1!
If never knowing when to stop is the reason why Hogan's back is so messed up, then how come Flair can still go out there and put on a match? He's not as bad as Hogan.
And if never knowing when to stop leads to you breaking yourself in half, how come I don't see you crapping all over The Undertaker? Well little do you know, 'Taker's injuries are not because he never knows when to stop. Undertaker's 46. Hogan was 46 in 2000 and he could still go unlike 'Taker who will most likely die if he does more than two matches a year these days.
Low and behold, the reason why Undertaker has to retire as soon as possible is not him pushing himself to the limit. It's easy to figure out using your BRAIN. Taker has bad knees. Why? Well he's also a tall guy who weighs a lot and that puts a lot of pressure on them lanky knees but he's not THAT old. Like I said, he's 46. He's as old as HBK and HBK can go like a motherfucker even with that "bad back". I put it in " " because HBK's always been a sissy. If your back was so bad you wouldn't be able to do moonsaults to the outside, boy toy.
But anyway, wrestling too much and for too long certainly didn't help his injuries, but it's not like Hogan would've been healthy as a horse if he stopped wrestling in 1998. He was already messed up by that point.
So how do you ignore HBK's douchebaggery and harp on Hogan's? How come you ignore Undertaker wrestling for too long but it seems to be such a huge issue with Hogan? You're telling me that you would have the exact same opinion of Hulk Hogan if he was an on-air personality on RAW instead of Impact Wrestling?
Let's face it man, there's not a fan out there who wouldn't love to hear either Voo-Doo Child or Real American blast through the PA System and have Hogan walk out, do his ******ed air guitar, tear that shirt and do his thing at 50, 40 or 30. It holds a special place in a lot of our hearts. The problem is some people only enjoy Hogan when he's working for their brand and remain willfully ignorant to his flaws and his age. His age was never a factor when he was in the WWE. The crowd was going nuts for him and he got the freaking belt. All he does now is cut a promo on Impact Wrestling and he's treated as if he raped someone's mother. Give me a break. I enjoy Hogan when he's working for ANY brand. The guy's a legend, have some respect for crying out loud.
People say that guys like him need to go, I say the day guys like him, Flair and Sting are gone for good is the day this business will lose a whole lot more than three old people.