samoa vs umaga

[ThE cErEbRaL aSsAsIn]

Then stop posting on the forum you clown. If you dont know what your talking about then shut up. Even if you dont want to stop your crap at least, if you dont like TNA stay the hell out of the TNA threads. Your one of those jerks who just likes to kick up crap cus you got nothing better to do.

i do like tna i think aj is the best out of all the companys i dont like joe so quit your crying becouse i say something dont mean u have to step up and take up for joe becouse i dont like joe and i will argue till my face is blue that he sucks and u keep on saying i dont know nothing i dont care if u think that i know alot so dont worry about just worry about your self jr

 

[CelticCross271]

oh look at u with your hogan avatar how stupid randy is going to kill the legend of hogan and good but any way umaga can move also he dose alot of explosive moves hes bigger than joe and hes just as fast no umga dont do no submissions but it dont matter joes submissions are nothing great simple stuff all joe dose is steel the spot lite from stars with real talent in tna

Ok first off Randy Orton is not a legend killer wow he has RKO'd a bunch of legends yet they were eitha old or dont wrestle cept for foley who is still wrestling so wheres the killing come in? Second off Hogan IS a wrestling GOD the guy is still in phenominal shape for his age. Now to the real point, How can u say that Umaga is even good the dude is just Jamal from 3 minute warning. He is a big rip off its WWE's version of Joe. Cept Umaga is not athletic what does he do he screams and throws no talent wrestlers around. Only reason he beat DX or Cena is cuz he has help. So argue all you want the facts are here. Umaga in WWE cuz hes related 2 The Rock and the WWE just wants to make fun of Samoa Joe because they didnt think of getting him first.

 

[tinyt12489]

Ok first off Randy Orton is not a legend killer wow he has RKO'd a bunch of legends yet they were eitha old or dont wrestle cept for foley who is still wrestling so wheres the killing come in? Second off Hogan IS a wrestling GOD the guy is still in phenominal shape for his age. Now to the real point, How can u say that Umaga is even good the dude is just Jamal from 3 minute warning. He is a big rip off its WWE's version of Joe. Cept Umaga is not athletic what does he do he screams and throws no talent wrestlers around. Only reason he beat DX or Cena is cuz he has help. So argue all you want the facts are here. Umaga in WWE cuz hes related 2 The Rock and the WWE just wants to make fun of Samoa Joe because they didnt think of getting him first.

So basically you're saying that if a wrestler was a mid-carder, then gets repackaged, gets a big push and wins more matches, that he still sucks? That's absurd.

 

[CelticCross271]

So basically you're saying that if a wrestler was a mid-carder, then gets repackaged, gets a big push and wins more matches, that he still sucks? That's absurd.

Thats not what i said smart ass. I'm saying that Umaga is only getting a push because they need somthing to compete with Samoa Joe and he is only in wrestling because the fact that he is the rocks cousin. He doesn't even have abilities he juss throws no names around the ring. Atleast Samoa Joe fights people that are decent and puts on a good match. Umaga is a fucking joke end of story.

 

[kapp]

So basically you're saying that if a wrestler was a mid-carder, then gets repackaged, gets a big push and wins more matches, that he still sucks? That's absurd.

Umaga (Jamal) wasn't even around long enough to even be a mid carder. He was in a few things, then they released him and kept Rosie.

he is only in wrestling because the fact that he is the rocks cousin.

The only thing you can come up with is the only reason why hes wrestling is because hes The Rock's cousin? If that was the only reasoning behind why Umaga is wrestling in the WWE, then Rikishi, Rosie, etc... would still be wrestling in the WWE, because there all related to The Rock, so your excuse really doesn't make any sense. It maybe one of the reasons, but I highly doubt it.

 

[CelticCross271]

The only thing you can come up with is the only reason why hes wrestling is because hes The Rock's cousin? If that was the only reasoning behind why Umaga is wrestling in the WWE, then Rikishi, Rosie, etc... would still be wrestling in the WWE, because there all related to The Rock, so your excuse really doesn't make any sense. It maybe one of the reasons, but I highly doubt it.

Yes Rosie and Rikishi are The Rocks cousins but think about it Rosie had his stint and they didnt like him. Rikishi he was nothing but a dancing ass...literally. So i guess your right saying being The Rocks cousin is the only reason hes in wrestling is not acurate but i htink thats how they all got into the wrestling game is from with help from Rock. Umaga tho is just not a good wrestler what does he do? he sits no names in corners and runs his ass into them. WOW talk about athletics huh? Then jabs his thumb into your throat and you lose. Samoa Joe atleast over powers you kicks punches then hits you with a submission or a suicide dive. Umaga cant wrestle he juss throws dudes around that are no names cept for Flair whos old and DX but with help. So what this whole hting is about is that Umaga is awful someone please make a point if you think hes good and back it up.

 

[kapp]

but i htink thats how they all got into the wrestling game is from with help from Rock.

Alot of people in his family has been in wrestling before The Rock. His uncles the Wild Samoans (Sika & Afa), Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka, and Rocky Johnson. His brother Rikishi as one half of the Head Shrinkers with his cousin Samu(Samula Anoai). Plus Rikishi had other gimmicks before The Rock even came to the WWE. Also his cousin Yokozuna, so really that doesn't prove The Rock had anything to do with it.

With all this your saying, I guess you could consider Samoa Joe could of been brought in the same way, since hes half cousins with Umaga.

Umaga tho is just not a good wrestler what does he do? he sits no names in corners and runs his ass into them. WOW talk about athletics huh? Then jabs his thumb into your throat and you lose. Samoa Joe atleast over powers you kicks punches then hits you with a submission or a suicide dive.

Umaga doesn't really bother me and I don't have a problem with the moves he uses during his in ring performances, for the simple fact that Umaga has had two different gimmicks in the WWE and he used different moves as Jamal and Umaga. Plus you have to look at the fact that WWE has restricted alot of moves, so what the moves hes does with the "Umaga" character, doesn't mean he can't do other moves, but all the people that have been argueing that Umaga is better than Samoa Joe hasn't proved there point other than Samoa Joe is fat and they don't like him, so really theres no point in trying to debate with them.

This whole thread is based off opinion and everyone has a difference opinion about different wrestlers, so theres no real wrong answer, but if people are trying to prove something and they can't back up the facts, then theres really no reason to be posting, if your trying to prove something and don't want to back it or can't back it up.

Many people are basing there opinions off Samoa Joe and what he has done in TNA. Samoa Joe has done great in TNA and has accomplished many things in TNA, but you also have to look at what Samoa Joe and other wrestlers have done in different wrestling promotions to get a feel at what the wrestler can do. I can tell you this Samoa Joe has had many better matches in ROH, than he has in TNA, but I do give him credit for what he has done his whole career.

 

[THNB490]

i do like tna i think aj is the best out of all the companys i dont like joe so quit your crying becouse i say something dont mean u have to step up and take up for joe becouse i dont like joe and i will argue till my face is blue that he sucks and u keep on saying i dont know nothing i dont care if u think that i know alot so dont worry about just worry about your self jr

Haha, okay buddy. You said yourself you dont like TNA so why make a point to say you dont. Usually when people dont like something they stay away from it but your all over the TNA forum. But whatever you dont like Samoa Joe, thats fine I'm sick of arguing with your clown ass.

 

[ThE cErEbRaL aSsAsIn]

Haha, okay buddy. You said yourself you dont like TNA so why make a point to say you dont. Usually when people dont like something they stay away from it but your all over the TNA forum. But whatever you dont like Samoa Joe, thats fine I'm sick of arguing with your clown ass.

you are so gay i like tna dont like joe like aj is that clear and the other tard with the hogan pic umga has one of the coolest moves where he throws them up and catchs them behind him and samoa dropes them wwe might be copying joe but they did it better with umaga so suck on that

 

[Thizz22]

Wait Umaga is jamal from 2 minute waRNINg???? WHAT

 

[Thizz22]

oh shit he is dang i hella notice the resemblence now

 

[THNB490]

you are so gay i like tna dont like joe like aj is that clear and the other tard with the hogan pic umga has one of the coolest moves where he throws them up and catchs them behind him and samoa dropes them wwe might be copying joe but they did it better with umaga so suck on that

Are you still fucking talking? Dude, drop it, okay. Shut the fuck up, I get it. I tried to stop this shit earlier but you insist on keeping on with it. Me and you wont talk about Joe anymore alright fuckin relax.

 

[ThE cErEbRaL aSsAsIn]

Are you still fucking talking? Dude, drop it, okay. Shut the fuck up, I get it. I tried to stop this shit earlier but you insist on keeping on with it. Me and you wont talk about Joe anymore alright fuckin relax.

u did not make no sense if u want someone to shut up u shut up jr your the one getting mad and cussing there kids on here so wach it u dont see me doing it but your scared so u have to try to talk big if u want to drop it then stop saying stuff to me becouse if u keep saying stuff trying to act big then i will keep on also i will never drop the fact that fat joe sucks

 

[THNB490]

u did not make no sense if u want someone to shut up u shut up jr your the one getting mad and cussing there kids on here so wach it u dont see me doing it but your scared so u have to try to talk big if u want to drop it then stop saying stuff to me becouse if u keep saying stuff trying to act big then i will keep on also i will never drop the fact that fat joe sucks

U did not make no sense... how ironic can you get. I'm just trying to end this argument, dude. Not trying to get you to say Joe is good, I dont care anymore. And I apologize for swearing, but I am far from "scared" of you Sr what is this high school. Were talking about wrestling for God Sake.

 

[ThE cErEbRaL aSsAsIn]

U did not make no sense... how ironic can you get. I'm just trying to end this argument, dude. Not trying to get you to say Joe is good, I dont care anymore. And I apologize for swearing, but I am far from "scared" of you Sr what is this high school. Were talking about wrestling for God Sake.

i never said u where scared of me iam saying people use it when they feel trapt becouse why would someone be scared of someone they have never met so. but now see u still insult me how do u think it will end when u still say trash i will call it truths when u can be a man about it

 

[THNB490]

i never said u where scared of me iam saying people use it when they feel trapt becouse why would someone be scared of someone they have never met so. but now see u still insult me how do u think it will end when u still say trash i will call it truths when u can be a man about it

Alright, dude. Agreed. Okay, I've been known for a short temper sometimes that's just how I've been, I really dont like getting in arguments like that. I can let things get out of hand. So like I said before I apolgize for swearing. I was immuture about that.

 

[ThE cErEbRaL aSsAsIn]

Alright, dude. Agreed. Okay, I've been known for a short temper sometimes that's just how I've been, I really dont like getting in arguments like that. I can let things get out of hand. So like I said before I apolgize for swearing. I was immuture about that.

ok cool dude u dont have to have short temper its just a tread i have a bad temper to but i dont let this get to me so chill i tell u what help me i train and work out i pratice a few difrent fighting arts try it it help me a bunch

 

[grungy72]

Look dudes seriously, there is no need to argue ok Cerebral hates Joe alright and he wants to voice that he has every right to do so, You guys like joe GREAT man let it be known, But there is no need to sit there and keep bagging each other, Its a discussion. (I know im guilty of flamming lol) if you wanna trade insults go to the bar room.

 

[THNB490]

ok cool dude u dont have to have short temper its just a tread i have a bad temper to but i dont let this get to me so chill i tell u what help me i train and work out i pratice a few difrent fighting arts try it it help me a bunch

Yeah, I know man. I really have been working on it. I just started working out again, it's been hard to get back into cus I've been moving around alot latley and trying to find a job and what not. And I do intend on getting into some martial arts.

 

[daveamania]

Ok...where do I begin? First of all Umaga isn't even in the same league of Joe. Umaga is such a stupid character and his finisher is just lame.
Now for all you Joe haters out there....Go watch some of Joe's ROH matches. The man is incredible! There isn't another 300 pounder out there that can put on a match like Joe can. I suggest checking out some of his japanese matches, too.

 

[ThE cErEbRaL aSsAsIn]

Ok...where do I begin? First of all Umaga isn't even in the same league of Joe. Umaga is such a stupid character and his finisher is just lame.
Now for all you Joe haters out there....Go watch some of Joe's ROH matches. The man is incredible! There isn't another 300 pounder out there that can put on a match like Joe can. I suggest checking out some of his japanese matches, too.

iam no trying to start with u but i have seen them even the one with joe and cm punk it was like a hour but i just dont think hes that good but i seen that cm punk is better than what i thought i rate guys on there abilty and if they are prasied for what there not i have to say something

 

[grungy72]

Now please dont resort to name calling, Next poster lol he was just stating his opinion,, you savages lol
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[daveamania]

iam no trying to start with u but i have seen them even the one with joe and cm punk it was like a hour but i just dont think hes that good but i seen that cm punk is better than what i thought i rate guys on there abilty and if they are prasied for what there not i have to say something

Thats kewl. Everyone has their own opinions.

 

[nash123]

samoa is fat

 

[phenom187]

Not even a question most definitely umaga his move is the Samoan Spike ?? Umaga is a brut whose matches rarely are entertaining not mention Umaga is just like a less talented crazed Rikishi not mention everyone knows thats Rosie from that old tag team 3 Minutes or whatever. But back to the point Samoa Joe is versatile martial arts kick numerous submissions and how many guys his size are gonna dive over the top rope like a luchador