Round 2, Day 5

Angle vs. KENTA

  • #1 Kurt Angle

  • #33 KENTA


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#1 Kurt Angle vs. #33 KENTA

1. Not a popularity contest.
2. Will rules of a region come into play (Remember, this is a TNA match, all matches are in a six sided ring)
3. Will crowd be a factor. All matches take place in Pittsburgh, PA
 
#16 The American Dream Dusty Rhodes vs. #48 Ricky Morton

1. Not a popularity contest.
2. Will rules of a region come into play (Remember, this is a TNA match, all matches are in a six sided ring)
3. Will crowd be a factor. All matches take place in
 
#8 CM Punk vs. #40 Giant Baba

1. Not a popularity contest.
2. Will rules of a region come into play (Remember, this is a TNA match, all matches are in a six sided ring)
3. Will crowd be a factor. All matches take place in
 
#9 The Man of 1000 Holds Dean Malenko vs. #24 Superfly Jimmy Snuka

1. Not a popularity contest.
2. Will rules of a region come into play (Remember, this is a TNA match, all matches are in a six sided ring)
3. Will crowd be a factor. All matches take place in
 
#2 The Undertaker vs. #31 Justin Credible

1. Not a popularity contest.
2. Will rules of a region come into play (this is an ECW Regional match, so this match is conducted under extreme rules.)
3. Will crowd be a factor. The matches take place in Houston, TX
 
#15 Bryan Danielson vs. #18 Harley Race

1. Not a popularity contest.
2. Will rules of a region come into play (this is an ECW Regional match, so this match is conducted under extreme rules.)
3. Will crowd be a factor. The matches take place in Houston, TX
 
#7 Ricky Steamboat vs. #26 Yokozuna

1. Not a popularity contest.
2. Will rules of a region come into play (this is an ECW Regional match, so this match is conducted under extreme rules.)
3. Will crowd be a factor. The matches take place in Houston, TX
 
#10 MVP vs. #23 Sgt. Slaughter

1. Not a popularity contest.
2. Will rules of a region come into play (this is an ECW Regional match, so this match is conducted under extreme rules.)
3. Will crowd be a factor. The matches take place in Houston, TX
 
I'd love to see this match. A vote for KENTA is justified. I've only seen six or seven of the guy's matches but I can tell you that he is phenomenally talented and urge you to at least look up some of his stuff before you vote.

When it comes to voting, however, it should go to Kurt Angle. Angle has the experience and, quite honestly, the superior skill. Not to mention this is in an environment tailored to suit him - it's in a six sided ring in his home town. Angle won't be nearly as dominant as he was against Thrasher, but he will be the decisive winner.
 
If this was anywhere else I dunno if I could seperate the two, but been in Angle's hometown would be the decicive factor. Both are great athletes and it would be a great match. Equaly if this match was in Japan, or even a ROH ring I would maybe side with Kenta. Kenta is prehaps the better wrestler at this moment in his career, seriously this guy makes Samoa Joe and A.J look average. Really close this match, if it was anyone else but Angle, but the fact it is Angle means he has to win this in my eyes, as Sam said experiance also needs to be considered. Angle with the anklelock on the hour mark IMO.
 
Man, this is tough. The ECW field is essentially neutral, because neither guy has a particularly hardcore background. Sarge is a former WWF Champion, MVP a long-reigning US Champ with World Title potential.

I give this to MVP, because of conditioning. The longer this match goes on, the more it favors MVP. Even in his absolute prime (Wrestlemania 7) Slaughter wasn't known for his conditioning. MVP is. As a result, I have to think that the endurance factor will give Porter the win in a very odd, awkward match.
 
Not even close. Not even a little close.

Steamboat is a skilled high flyer, and if he got Yokozuna down, he'd be fast enough to climb the ropes and decend on the big sumo befoe Yoko could move to block or dodge. The PROBLEM is that I don't see Steamboat having the power to knock down the big man. Savage had trouble doing it. So did Duggan. And both of them had more power than Steamboat does.

I see Steamboat rocking the big man, but Yoko catching him for that devistating belly-to-belly suplex, the led drop, and then dragging him to the corner for the Banzai Drop. Yokozuna in 8 minutes, 4 of which are spent throwing salt at "The Turnbuckle Demons."
 
Squash. Taker in his prime was a dead man who felt no pain. Even in his renassaince he was a hardcore champion. Credible was a fad. A popular option for a short time at best, and while he did have some talent and swing a mean kendo stick, he's no match for the deadman. This is Taker's match in every way.
 
This is sad.

I picked Morton for the same reason I took MVP over Slaughter. Conditioning and athleticism. A high flyer like Morton would benefit from the TNA ring a hell of a lot more than a guy like Rhodes.

Dusty Rhodes is a legend because of a) a great gimmick, playing The American Dream, an underdog, to an America obsessed with Rocky Balboa and the 1980 US Olympic Team, b) fantastic mic skills, and c) fair in ring booking skills. Morton was a fantastic athlete, a fair mic worker, an transitioned from tag to single very well. I thought Morton pushed Flair harder than Dusty ever did.

Fans, you still have time to right this ship. Vote Morton over Rhodes!!!
 
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Im going to agree with IC25 again in this tournament. Ricky Morton has the Ring advantage over Dusty. He is too quick and able to get away from Dusty fairly easily. As long as he avoids the Bionic Elbow he can pick up the win. This would be a tough match up but Ricky Morton will pull out the win in this Match up.
 
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This is one of the few matches where Joke votes are OK. But There is no chance in hell of Credible beating the Undertaker in any environment including ECW. Triangle Choke by Taker to beat Credible in a fairly short match.
 
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CM Punk is good no doubt about it. But going up against Giant Baba he has no Chance. All those that vote without research deserves to have their vote discounted. Giant Baba is a legend and rightfully so. He has the size dvantage over CM Punk since Shohei Baba is 6' 10". Baba has the ring ability and athleticism to beat Punk. It would be a great match with CM Punk using the ring to his advantage, but Baba is just too much for Punk.
 
IC 25 made some good points. I myself in some earlier matches have predicted that the high flyer would get caught by the power moves. I do disagree with his choice though. If you go back and watch Steamboats matches he doesn't go up top that often. He has his crossbody move but it usually comes later on in a match. Steamboat may not have the power to knock Yoko down but he can take his leg out. He was a tremdous mat wrestler. I think Steamboat takes this one in a hard fought 25 minute encounter. Yoko simply wears out.
 
This would definately be a very different match, and potentially interesting. I think IC25 hit the nail on the head, when he said that the longer the match continues the more it favours MVP. Even though none of these wrestlers have a hardcore backround, I would have to give this to MVP, because of the endurance. In like a 10 minutes match, MVP going over.
 
Even though Credible has alot of experience in harcore matchs this would have to be a squash match by The Undertaker. This should be a short mathc in favour of 'Taker. Another reason for 'Taker to win is that he has the home field advantage. 'Taker win, with a triangle choke, after 5 minutes.
 
I'm struggling to figure out if Angle's votes are due to his superior exposure or his superior skill. I suppose neither matter as Angle should be the one you vote for anyway but I feel that KENTA should be appreciated more, particularly if you're just skimming over him like he doesn't factor in, like many of you no doubt are.

If you do not know who KENTA is please either do not vote, or look up some of his matches. Hell, you owe it to yourself to look up some of his matches - unless you voted Total Package over me in the poster's tournament. Give me your address and I'll send you a few DVDs. It'd be Delirious/Burke all over again, if only I didn't have the image of KENTA hobbling around on a broken ankle imprinted so firmly in my mind.
 
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Harley Race wins this one, He is a multiple time champ when that meant something big. He was King of the Ring. He has put on classic matches since the 1960's right up until his retirement from the ring in 1991. He has not done a Flair or a Dusty and Wrestled well past when he should have stopped. He apparently still has enough in him for one match, I would pay to see it if it was against Triple H or Steve Corino someone that knows how to Wrestle the older guys and make them look good. I don't care if this is an ECW match because both of these guys would probably try and out Wrestle each other properly than use weapons though I do expect a chair shot or two in there but this would be a nice 60:00 match.
 
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Jimmy Snuka in a TNA ring would be a site to behold but. We are talking pure in ring skill here. That falls into the category of Dean Malenko winning this one. Look back at the matches he had back when Rey Mysterio was debuting in WCW he kept Mysterio grounded I do see Dean Malenko keeping Snuka grounded and winning after a tough fought match up.
 
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This is ECW so expect interference by Mr. Fuji to start with. But this match falls down to one question. Can Ricky Steamboat avoid being caught by Yokozuna long enough to take out Yoko's legs? With weapons both become more Dangerous. But Yokozuna infinately more so. I don't know if Steamboat can avoid being captured by Yoko. So I will go with the Superheavyweight on this match up. There does need to be the right combination of speed and strength to take down Yokozuna.
 
Shadowmancer hit the nail right on the head. I will add this - Snuka's quickness and all out ariel assault could have the potential to frustrate opponents. Hard to catch, hard to lock up, never know where he's coming from.

Malenko is incapable of frustration. It's not an emotion he has nor understands. He didn't leave WCW because he was frustrated with the booking - he left because Perry Saturn felt it'd be a bad idea for Malenko to kill Eric Bichoff and promised to buy him a sandwich. That's all.
 
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