Romney Shoots Himself In The Foot Worse Than Ever

[klunderbunker]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ts-from-leaked-mitt-romney-fundraiser-videos/

A video of Romney has come out with him at a fundraiser with millionaires. You can't see him but the video has been verified by multiple news sources. One of the person asks Romney a question and mentions that it's two months from the election, putting this roughly ten days ago, but from what I've heard this has been around on the internet for months. I'm not quite sure when it's from but the date doesn't really matter.

Romney says the following things:

47% of people are going to vote for Obama no matter what.

Those 47% depend on the government for everything.

Those 47% of people pay no income taxes.

Those 47% of the people aren't going to vote for Romney no matter what so why worry about them?

Those 47% of the people feel they're entitled to things like food and healthcare.

You couldn't script this better if you were the Obama campaign.

Apparently this took place May 17 so maybe the two months thing was in future speak.

 

[Slyfox696]

Aside from his incredibly insulting views on 47% feeling entitled and dependent upon government, most of what he said was true.

 

[Slyfox696]

Wait, nevermind. I just read what he said about wishing his dad was Latino.

That's a big Romney oops.

 

[klunderbunker]

The part about them not voting for him is true. Based on this, a lot of people won't vote for him either.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Interesting.

 

[klunderbunker]

Apparently there's more coming in the next few days too.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Those silly Republicans. Man must be sweating bullets knowing that the debate is slowly creeping up.

 

[Gelgarin]

Yeah... the "47% of people pay no income tax" is technically true, provided you ignore quite a lot of information.

Of the 47%, well over half of them are gainfully employed and simply aren't earning enough money to qualify for income tax - they still pay payroll tax, state tax and local tax. Of the remainder, two thirds don't pay income tax because they're retired. That leaves less than 7% of the country who could plausibly be assumed to conform to Mitt Romney's insulting stereotype.

 

[Slyfox696]

Yeah... the "47% of people pay no income tax" is technically true, provided you ignore quite a lot of information.

Of the 47%, well over half of them are gainfully employed and simply aren't earning enough money to qualify for income tax - they still pay payroll tax, state tax and local tax. Of the remainder, two thirds don't pay income tax because they're retired. That leaves less than 7% of the country who could plausibly be assumed to conform to Mitt Romney's insulting stereotype.

Not even 7%, because many of those 7% are college students.

The problem is so many Americans simply cannot be bother with the break down you just provided. It's just easier to remember one number.

 

[Lowdown]

Funny thing is Romney may actually get more votes and support from this.

 

[Slyfox696]

Who wants to play Where's Waldo? See if you can find mention of Romney's comments regarding not caring about half of America's citizens on these two pages.

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

What Romney views as poor is hilarious. He's such a pile of shit.

 

[Slyfox696]

What Romney views as poor is hilarious. He's such a pile of shit.

If you don't have the money to start your own business, just borrow it from your parents who are multi-millionaires like Mitt's were.

 

[Loveless]

Wasn't there some big deal just a few months ago about Romney hiding money so he didn't have to pay the higher tax rate?

 

[klunderbunker]

Allegedly. He won't release that many of his tax returns and it's raised more eyebrows than a Rock highlight video.

 

[Shocky]

Having a hard time figuring out what Mitt Romney said so wrong. Everyone knows about that percentage is going to vote Democrat, and the same percentage is voting Republican. He's emphasizing the Independent voter, which is who is going to win this election for either candidate. This isn't a story.

 

[Барбоса]

Having a hard time figuring out what Mitt Romney said so wrong. Everyone knows about that percentage is going to vote Democrat, and the same percentage is voting Republican. He's emphasizing the Independent voter, which is who is going to win this election for either candidate. This isn't a story.

Of course, it is a story. You have a man who is hoping to be elected "leader of the free world" essentially saying that, for whatever reason, he does not care about nearly half of the population of that country. The figures side of things is probably correct with regards to who is likely to vote Democrat and Republican and it is probably a cornerstone of election policy but he should not be saying it in public, especially in this day and age when anything you say could be recorded in some way.

And is it really going to help his cause with the independents he is so determined to focus on that he is seen to be so sweeping and judgemental? What about those floating voters who are currently receiving some sort of government aid? By intimating that he does not care about them or looks down on them because they have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own (and more specifically through the fault of those fat cats whose financial well-being Romney would place above the ordinary citizen), he might have just lost their vote.

Everyone is prone to a gaff but he continues to put his foot in his mouth so frequently that he is not letting anyone forget it, essentially making his own campaign toxic without the Democrats actually having to do anything.

 

[Slyfox696]

Having a hard time figuring out what Mitt Romney said so wrong. Everyone knows about that percentage is going to vote Democrat, and the same percentage is voting Republican. He's emphasizing the Independent voter, which is who is going to win this election for either candidate. This isn't a story.

You mean besides the fact the most of the people who aren't going to vote for him aren't lazy and feel like "victims"?

It's insulting. I work hard every day. I'm not a "victim". I've never asked for a dime from the government to care for me, with the exception of what I've earned from my hard day's labor, and the idea of this silver spoon snob telling me I'm only voting against him because I want government to support me is insulting.

It certainly couldn't be because it's hard to trust a guy who changes his position depending on what job he wants. It certainly couldn't be because he's threatening to destroy Medicare as we know it. It certainly couldn't be because he's advocating a system of economics which has proven not to work every time it's been pushed, it's certainly not because he won't tell anyone the specifics of his plan to create an astronomical 12 million jobs, it's certainly not because he doesn't give us reason to trust how he'll revise tax codes, it's not because his party has worked against our country to remove our President, it's not because his party actively blocked legislation to provide medical support to emergency services who responded to the 9/11 attacks because they wanted to make sure rich people got tax breaks...

Nope, according to Mitt Romney, the only reason I'm not voting for him is because I don't want to have to work and want the government support me.


Do you really not see how insulting that is? Do you not see how insulting a comment like "I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives," is? The problem is not that a certain percentage will vote Democrat and a certain percentage will vote Republican, I agree to that. It's the idea that those who vote against Romney will do so because they want to be leeches on society which is incredibly arrogant and flat out wrong. Especially since a large percentage of the people he's talking about are actually voting Republicans.

 

[klunderbunker]

On top of that, what kind of confidence does it instill in people that are on the fence about him? In essence he's saying he doesn't care about one out of every two people. In times like these, it's reassuring to hear from the most powerful man in the world that he cares about you. Romney said that he doesn't worry about almost half of the population. Now what kind of president do most people want: someone who might care or someone that has flat out said they don't?

 

[Shocky]

He's saying he's not going to win their vote, so why bother. He's not going to gather up his SS and beat on your door for voting for Obama and not paying taxes. The only thing he did was reconfirm he's an elitist white business owner, which will play with his half.

He said nothing that you guys on here don't routinely bash him for. At least the dude is being honest for once. The only thing those comments did were piss off people likely to vote against him, and fire up his base, the same shit we hear day in and day out from both sides.

 

[klunderbunker]

He's saying he's not going to win their vote, so why bother. He's not going to gather up his SS and beat on your door for voting for Obama and not paying taxes. The only thing he did was reconfirm he's an elitist white business owner, which will play with his half.

He said nothing that you guys on here don't routinely bash him for. At least the dude is being honest for once. The only thing those comments did were piss off people likely to vote against him, and fire up his base, the same shit we hear day in and day out from both sides.

Here's the problem for Romney: what percent of people do you think will believe they're in the 47% he's talking about? My guess is somewhere around 80-85% of the voting population. That many people will believe Romney says he doesn't care about them and that they're freeloaders. That doesn't bode well for a guy who has spent months and months trying to say he's a normal guy and not some elite snob. With seven weeks before the election, the last thing Romney needed was to look even more like a snob than he's already come off as.

 

[Shocky]

I think you give the American public far too much credit. The first thing people are going to do when they hear about a Romney or Obama gaff is reach for the controller and find Jersey Shore. Most of the American public is sick of the campaign already and we're not even into the heart of it.

 

[klunderbunker]

I think you give the American public far too much credit. The first thing people are going to do when they hear about a Romney or Obama gaff is reach for the controller and find Jersey Shore. Most of the American public is sick of the campaign already and we're not even into the heart of it.

Oh we're into the heart of it and well past it. We're in the home stretch now and the only major things left are the debates. On top of everything else, this gives Obama another good sized bullet for the face to face debates, which he can add to his other 15 or so that Romney has already handed to him. Romney has zero momentum at all and his only chance is in those debates. He'll need a miracle to beat Obama in those, and saying stuff like this isn't helping him at all.

 

[Slyfox696]

He's saying he's not going to win their vote, so why bother.

That's not what the problem is though. Both Obama and Romney agree there is a certain percentage of people who will vote for the party moreso than the candidate. Both have said that many times.

The problem here is the assertion that the only reason people vote for Obama is because they want to be lazy and have government pay for them. It's insulting to the millions of hard working people who don't fit his insulting view of them.

Let's take a parallel example. If Obama were to come out and say the only people who vote Republicans are racists and the only reason they're not voting Obama is because they don't want to vote for a black man, are you telling me you wouldn't be offended at the idea of being considered a racist simply because of for whom you vote? Of course you would, as well you should be. Are there racists who won't vote for Obama because he's black? Yes, just like there are some freeloaders who will vote Obama because Democrats are more likely to take care of those who are lazy.

But by no means, does that mean ALL people voting Republican are racist, nor ALL people voting Democrat are lazy people who see themselves as victims. And that's the problem with his comment. Well, that and the fact that there are more than their fair share of Republican voters who are the exact same type of freeloaders Romney was talking about.

 

[Барбоса]

He's saying he's not going to win their vote, so why bother. He's not going to gather up his SS and beat on your door for voting for Obama and not paying taxes. The only thing he did was reconfirm he's an elitist white business owner, which will play with his half.

He said nothing that you guys on here don't routinely bash him for. At least the dude is being honest for once. The only thing those comments did were piss off people likely to vote against him, and fire up his base, the same shit we hear day in and day out from both sides.

But he cannot win the election solely on the Republican vote and continually reinforcing his image as a callous/idiotic cunt quite happy to do nothing for a large section of the citizenry will do little to encourage the floating voters or even reasonable Republicans to vote for him.