Romney Shoots Himself In The Foot Worse Than Ever

[Shocky]

Oh we're into the heart of it and well past it. We're in the home stretch now and the only major things left are the debates. On top of everything else, this gives Obama another good sized bullet for the face to face debates, which he can add to his other 15 or so that Romney has already handed to him. Romney has zero momentum at all and his only chance is in those debates. He'll need a miracle to beat Obama in those, and saying stuff like this isn't helping him at all.

I guess I'm speaking more along the lines of insulting, mudslinging ads and endless phone calls at all hours. Most voters have already decided who they are voting for at this point, I agree there.

Obama merely has to show up at these debates and crack a smile, and stay away from terrible jokes (his speech yesterday in Cincy was awful). Romney has the charisma of a corpse.

That's not what the problem is though. Both Obama and Romney agree there is a certain percentage of people who will vote for the party moreso than the candidate. Both have said that many times.

The problem here is the assertion that the only reason people vote for Obama is because they want to be lazy and have government pay for them. It's insulting to the millions of hard working people who don't fit his insulting view of them.

Let's take a parallel example. If Obama were to come out and say the only people who vote Republicans are racists and the only reason they're not voting Obama is because they don't want to vote for a black man, are you telling me you wouldn't be offended at the idea of being considered a racist simply because of for whom you vote? Of course you would, as well you should be. Are there racists who won't vote for Obama because he's black? Yes, just like there are some freeloaders who will vote Obama because Democrats are more likely to take care of those who are lazy.

But by no means, does that mean ALL people voting Republican are racist, nor ALL people voting Democrat are lazy people who see themselves as victims. And that's the problem with his comment. Well, that and the fact that there are more than their fair share of Republican voters who are the exact same type of freeloaders Romney was talking about.

I get what your saying, but I think you're taking it way to personal. Romney was talking to a room full of rich white donators, so naturally he said a bunch of bullshit that made them feel good. He'll say something different in a room full of old people talking about healthcare. It's simply a matter of politics. No one knows what Obama or Romney truly feel, they simply play towards their base and people that will get them votes.

I'm pretty sure you have decided you are voting for Obama, so when Romney say something like that, it insults the people that don't fit the stereotype he was portraying. At the end of the day, nothing Romney says will change your vote. I'm an independent, so I don't see the comments as insulting, simply mindless politics. It's not changing my vote one way or another.

Maybe I'm simply jaded because I'm one of the coveted Independent voters in a swing state that is sick of both candidates.

But he cannot win the election solely on the Republican vote and continually reinforcing his image as a callous/idiotic cunt quite happy to do nothing for a large section of the citizenry will do little to encourage the floating voters or even reasonable Republicans to vote for him.

Obama came out with a Pro-Gay marriage stance. Black Evangelist are conflicted with this. There are a lot of Black religious leaders that are telling their congregations to stay home on elections day because of a conflict of interest. You can say that Obama screwed himself by taking this stance. You can't please everyone. No matter what you say is going to piss someone off.

Agree, the Independents are the ones that will determine this election. Playing solely to the base is a fool's gambit, but it's something the Republicans tend to do more often then the Democrats.

 

[Slyfox696]

I get what your saying, but I think you're taking it way to personal.

It was a personal attack on me, by someone who wants to speak for me and run my life (by nature of the job of President).

I don't think I agree that I'm taking it too personally. I understand what you're getting at, that he's just saying what he has too to get the money/votes, but it's clearly a personal attack on me, not to mention a clear example of the class warfare Democrats have constantly painted the Republicans as waging.

I'm pretty sure you have decided you are voting for Obama

More like I'm voting against Republicans, which in a two horse race is basically the same thing, but not really the same thing. If there were a legitimate 3rd party candidate, I wouldn't necessarily automatically vote for Obama.

so when Romney say something like that, it insults the people that don't fit the stereotype he was portraying.

Like me and millions of other people like me.

At the end of the day, nothing Romney says will change your vote.

Agreed, but that doesn't give him the right to accuse me of not having integrity, based simply upon the fact I don't agree with him.

I'm an independent, so I don't see the comments as insulting, simply mindless politics. It's not changing my vote one way or another.

Maybe I'm simply jaded because I'm one of the coveted Independent voters in a swing state that is sick of both candidates.

As someone from Ohio, I imagine you're probably hit with a barrage of advertisements every where you look.

 

[Moon Knight]

The 47% is a tad high, but what he said is actually kind of true. No big deal here, most of all nothing worth calling a witch hunt over.

 

[Moon Knight]

Who wants to play Where's Waldo? See if you can find mention of Romney's comments regarding not caring about half of America's citizens on these two pages.

Spoiler

Spoiler

So? Fox News is more Republican friendly and CNN is more Democrat friendly. I am shocked CNN didn't make it bigger since they are a borderline Democratic mouthpiece sometimes.

And he didn't say that he didn't care about them, just that there was no point in trying to get them to vote for him. Which is right. Would be like him courting the Black vote...Like they have a strong history of voting republican.

 

[Slyfox696]

So? Fox News is more Republican friendly and CNN is more Democrat friendly.

Very good, you figured out the point. I just thought it was humorous.

I am shocked CNN didn't make it bigger since they are a borderline Democratic mouthpiece sometimes.

Not really. Maybe the television side is, I don't know, but the web site is pretty neutral.

And he didn't say that he didn't care about them

He said that people who don't vote for him do so because they feel they're entitled to handouts, because they feel they are victims. Oh, and this, "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.".

Sorry, you can't spin that.

EDIT: What makes the comment just flat out ridiculous is this:

Eight of the 10 states with the highest percentage of filers who didn't pay federal income taxes are red states that voted for John McCain in 2008: Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana, South Carolina, Arkansas, and Idaho. Only New Mexico and Florida voted for Obama. Conversely, of the 10 states with the lowest percentage of filers who didn't pay federal income taxes, seven voted for Obama. Only Alaska, Wyoming and North Dakota voted for McCain.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/18/opinion/granderson-romney-video/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

[Slyfox696]

So now that Romney has accused people who vote for Obama of not paying their taxes, can we all now agree Romney's tax returns need to be released? That way we know who he voted for in the last election?

 

[klunderbunker]

We'll just have to take his word for it.

 

[klunderbunker]

Well It's Not Like He's Ever Lied About His Taxes Before

 

[Slyfox696]

Well he has proven trustworthy so far.

 

[klunderbunker]

Given what Romney has said, it's hard to tell what good things Obama has done.

 

[Moon Knight]

Very good, you figured out the point. I just thought it was humorous.

Not really. Maybe the television side is, I don't know, but the web site is pretty neutral.

He said that people who don't vote for him do so because they feel they're entitled to handouts, because they feel they are victims. Oh, and this, "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.".

Sorry, you can't spin that.

EDIT: What makes the comment just flat out ridiculous is this:


http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/18/opinion/granderson-romney-video/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Your first comment wasn't much different from mine, other than I disagreed with the 47% and you didn't. Notice, I said the first comment you made, not all the others.

Don't get confused, unlike you I don't give a flying rats ass. Two different shades of the same turd. I am making a run to Canada ASAP as I have grown sick of this country. I made my comment, and that is pretty much the extent of my passion here.

 

[Slyfox696]

Your first comment wasn't much different from mine, other than I disagreed with the 47% and you didn't. Notice, I said the first comment you made, not all the others.

Well I said his views on the 47% were incredibly insulting, and you said his comment was basically true, except the number was a tad high.

Don't get confused, unlike you I don't give a flying rats ass. Two different shades of the same turd. I am making a run to Canada ASAP as I have grown sick of this country. I made my comment, and that is pretty much the extent of my passion here.

I don't imagine it's much better up there. It might be, but then you have to become a hockey fan, so what's the point?

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Not sure if you caught The Daily Show but they had footage of Mitt Romney's mom talking about receiving gov't welfare assistance.

 

[Slyfox696]

Not sure if you caught The Daily Show but they had footage of Mitt Romney's mom talking about receiving gov't welfare assistance.

I believe I've posted it here, but Mitt himself received a $10 million bailout paid by taxpayers to save Bain capital from going under during his leadership.

 

[Moon Knight]

Well I said his views on the 47% were incredibly insulting, and you said his comment was basically true, except the number was a tad high.

Yeah, after you edited that in.

I don't imagine it's much better up there. It might be, but then you have to become a hockey fan, so what's the point?

Better economy, better health care....Whats not better?

 

[klunderbunker]

So in other words, neither Romney nor his father would vote for him for President.

 

[Slyfox696]

Yeah, after you edited that in.

Edited what in? Are you talking about my first post in the thread?

Better economy, better health care....Whats not better?

I thought you were talking about the political acrimony.

 

[klunderbunker]

On a semi-related note, Obama is on the Late Show and it's amazing how much more likeable he is than Romney. Romney is a stuffed shirt blowhard while Obama goes from humor to serious to politics like it's nothing.

 

[Moon Knight]

Edited what in? Are you talking about my first post in the thread?

You edited the remark about the 47% into your first post. It wasn't there at first. Don't deny it, we have all done it to cover our tracks.

I thought you were talking about the political acrimony.

I was talking about in general. What is worse up there? Besides those *****'s in Quebec.

 

[Slyfox696]

You edited the remark about the 47% into your first post. It wasn't there at first. Don't deny it, we have done it to cover our tracks.

Don't make me call you a different name. I'd hate to do it, but only a little.

I was talking about in general. What is worse up there? Besides those *****'s in Quebec.

Ahh, I thought you meant politically. Otherwise, I don't know, I don't live in Canada. I've just heard they have plenty of political strife themselves.

 

[Moon Knight]

Don't make me call you a different name. I'd hate to do it, but only a little.

Me thinks you doth protest too much.

Ahh, I thought you meant politically. Otherwise, I don't know, I don't live in Canada. I've just heard they have plenty of political strife themselves.

Every nation pretty much does, some more than others.

 

[Барбоса]

Now Romney is telling terrorists how to bomb America

 

[Slyfox696]

Now Romney is telling terrorists how to bomb America

I'm just now reading this.

If this is true (just read a little, haven't seen any of the major news sites cover it yet), Romney may even begin losing Republican voters.

This is almost becoming embarrassing. And now with the convention over, Republicans have no choice but to keep him. Even Paul Ryan was looking to distance himself yesterday when he said Romney was, "obviously inarticulate". I bet Paul Ryan is asking himself why the hell he ever agreed to this.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just saw the video for myself. WOW! Words cannot express how incredulous I am at the moment. I mean, I understand what he's TRYING to say but...wow. And it just so happens he mentions the dirty bomb in Chicago...what a moron.

 

[Remy LaCroix]

Don't get confused, unlike you I don't give a flying rats ass. Two different shades of the same turd. I am making a run to Canada ASAP as I have grown sick of this country. I made my comment, and that is pretty much the extent of my passion here.

Can I make an anti-American joke without receiving red rep from you?

 

[Moon Knight]

Can I make an anti-American joke without receiving red rep from you?

Yes.