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Respect Bryan Danielson for wanting to go to FCW

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Recently on the main page of Wrestlezone.com I noticed an article about Bryan Danielson(Former ROH GOD) being signed with WWE and Wrestling a dark match on Raw. Shortly after that it has been reported that Mr. Danielson himself asked to be sent to the WWE developmental company Florida Championship Wrestling. Why? He felt that his performance was lacking, and he needed to work off some ring rust.

Now I don't know about any of you, but I respect the hell out of that. I have never really watched much of this guys work in ROH but I have always heard good things, so I couldn't really imagine what his performance with "Ring Rust" as he referred to it would look like. What I respect is that he is not about to let you find out. This guy wants to be at the top of his game when he debuts and that shows that he cares. A lot of people wouldn't. They would just want to rush to t.v. and not really care about it. Most people would only be concerned about getting on t.v. first and worry about improving second.

Instead Bryan Danielson wants to be able to go out there and show what he's really got when he gets the chance. Be it for selfish or unselfish reasons that shows me that he is serious, and more concerned with doing things right, than just having the opportunity to do things at all. He is harboring his own progress in a sense, to make sure that when the public sees him that both he and the audience get the most out of it. That is a smart decision, and one that I think deserves some respect.

Take a look at some of the guys who have debuted recently. There was Tyler Reks, Vance Archer, Eric Escobar, Ricky Ortiz, Caylen Croft, Trent Barreta, Drew McIntyre, and Sheamus. All of them came from FCW and it is arguable that all of them came too early. Besides Sheamus and McIntyre everyone else has flopped so far. Even Escobar has only had a luke warm response and they were obviously trying to give him a serious push at first having Vickie Guerrero who has only been associated with champions as his manager. Maybe Danielson recognized this or had enough foresight to realize that if his ring work wasn't impressive from the beginning, he would suffer the same fate.

I think you have to stand back for a second and say "Hey, that's a smart move and I respect that decision." It means that he isn't willing to give the fans any less than he feels he is capable of, and truly wants to succeed. He isn't willing to compromise his success because he wants to be on t.v. right away or anything. I like that and it makes me more eager for his arrival. There is no telling when that day will actually come, but if his willingness and desire to excel are any indication of what we can expect, I'd say we are in for a real treat.
 
I absolutely agree with you game rage. I don't really watch ROH that much either but I know what a tremendous worker he is and for him to do what he did that makes me respect the guy even way more. Let's just hope he will be used correctly and won't be buried or a jobber like evan bourne is concerning they are almost the same size.
 
I follow ROH and am very much anticipating this debut. That being said I LOVE the fact that he decided to not be another name that came to the WWE and flopped. He is taking it upon himself to prove he is every bit as good as his reputation.

I have to disagree that Baretta/Croft are flops. They have been solid in ring and I guess decent when they get face time. Once they get on a main show vs tag teams, we'll see what they can do. Everyone else, as you mentioned, has been a bust.
 
I've seen a bunch of videos of Bryan Danielson wrestling. He's nothing like Evan Bourne. Evan Bourne is a high flyer lost in the shuffle. Bryan Danielson's ring style reminds me more of Chris Benoit. More hard hitting moves, submissions, suplexes, etc. I think Danielson has a bright future ahead of him in the WWE and him deciding to take the extra time to shake off some ring rust he may have is something that I definately respect, and I'm sure Vince McMahon doesn't mind it much either, seeing a new guy want to make sure he's at his best in the ring before debuting on live or even taped television.

Go to youtube and search for him. He had a match against Cena on Velocity in 2003 that was pretty good for a short match, though it didn't allow him to showcase all of his abilities.
 
As far as Danielson goes....much like Curt Hawkins as well, I do have to give them props for going down to FCW to work. Hawkins because he wasn't being used and Danielson because his layoff caused him to gain as he called it "Ring Rust". It takes a big person to voluntarily go from the main roster to the developmental roster.

As far as what Bryan Danielson would look like with ring rust......it would actually look like the match that he had with Cena on Velocity.
 
I've watched Danielson for years in ROH, PWG, etc.

I've never really been a big fan, not that he's not good, he's REALLY good, just a little boring for my taste. I do however, think he will make a great edition to the WWE roster, maybe spice things up a little. I give him tremendous props for voluntarily going down to FCW. I actually don't think it was necessarily "ring rust" but maybe more that he was having a hard time adjusting to the WWE style. He has somewhat of an "indy" style so maybe he went down to FCW to try and get familiar with the "sports entertainment" wrestling style.
 
I've been a huge Danielson fan for a few years now, he's every bit as good as his reputation makes him out to be & whilst I'm disappointed that I won't be seeing him on WWE TV right away, I do think it's a good move. His in ring ability should never be in question, in a dream world, he would have been involved in the Angle/A.J match on IMPACT last week & Hogan would have said they where the 3 best wrestlers in the world today, but that's neither here nor there. By going to developmental, he can work the WWE style for a month or 2, then when he heads upto the main roster, he won't have to worry about the old "He doesn't know how to work" moniker, placed upon him by some of the less talented guys who he's making look bad. Anywhere Danielson goes, he strives to be the best by whatever means necessary, & he usually is. This is an ideal way to do it, because if he spends time in FCW, learns the WWE style, gets onto one of the big shows, impresses the crowd every week with his style & work ethic, then they can't shit on him from a great height for no real reason..... Can they?
 
Give respect to Danielson for wanting to work out the ring rust, but he is already a better wrestler than most of the WWE locker room.

Having said that, Danielson will never succeed in the WWE as His style is to technical for the average WWE fan, he does not have many if any flashy moves and he is too hardhitting for his competitors.

I agree with OmegaDriver he has more likely moved to FCW to learn a new style of wrestling rather than to work out his rust. He really should have moved to TNA where his style would have been appreciated.
 
Looks like Danielson is already playing the WWE political game. His indy reputation doesn't mean shit with WWE and he likely knows it. By saying that he wasn't at his best during that dark match then requesting that he be given time to work off ring rust, he's already come across as being humble and somebody who's willing to do what's best for the company.
 
Y 2 Jake, those are exactly my thoughts. Ring Rust my arse, this is pure and simple a political move to gain respect with the locker room.

The fact that he's tight with HBK and Regal and by extension HHH, and immediately brought up to the main roster would gain him some serious locker room heat, because he's a nobody, he's fantastic - we all know that - but he's unproven on the main stage in the eyes of those who are paying their dues.

I say well done to the American Dragon, it can only benefit him in the long run.
 
Lmao at anyone believing that Bryan Danlelson wants to go to FCW to be at his best as if Bryan Danielson is already not good enough. This is all just a strategy. This will make WWE officials respect him more because him volunteering himself to FCW has never been done before and it makes it look as if he takes his craft seriously and it can result in WWE officials wanting to push him once he's ready for the main roster. Danielson is a smart guy. I give it to him.
 
Yeah, I was talking to RVDgurl about this yesterday, and we both agreed that it can only mean good things. Firstly, according to reports, Danielson put on a really good 10 minute match with Chavo in the dark Raw match. If he managed to put on a good performance but still feels the need to go to FCW to get rid of the slight ring rust he had, then it seems he will be performing at close to the level he was in ROH.

It'll also show people that Danielson doesn't have a big ego about his talent. If he's humble and acts like all he wants to do is better himself, then he'll be quick to make friends in the locker room and that'll only benefit him in the long run. So it's good news all-round.
 
This means a few things.

1) He has realized that ROH wrestles differently than WWE. Fans at ROH will mark out for technical aspects of the sport, and freak out when you nail a half nelson 360 suplex because it took them a minute to pronounce the entire move, not because it looks cool. WWE fans care about...well, quite simply, "Why should I care?" The story. If you can tell a story without flashy moves, like a Cena or a JBL, then you'll be over just as easily as a Jericho or a HBK, who can add the flashy moves when they want. Danielson is taking the time off in FCW to learn how the WWE does their work. Not that he can't work how they want him to, but merely that he needs to learn how the WWE does a match.

2) His indie reputation means jack shit. CM Punk floundered how long before he is now a solid heel on Smackdown? His time on Raw was a major shitfest, honestly. Danielson has realized that coming in with a bigger than life "Hahaha, I was ROH Champion. Fuck you, FCW" attitude won't get you anywhere. Be humble, admit you might not know exactly how the WWE wants you to work, and learn. And when he debuts, the writers and Vince will only like him better for it.

3) He needs to get into the swing of things. Good thing he's using FCW to do so, instead of the first 4 months of his push.

Danielson is doing good by this decision. Really good.
 
Yeah, I was talking to RVDgurl about this yesterday, and we both agreed that it can only mean good things. Firstly, according to reports, Danielson put on a really good 10 minute match with Chavo in the dark Raw match. If he managed to put on a good performance but still feels the need to go to FCW to get rid of the slight ring rust he had, then it seems he will be performing at close to the level he was in ROH.

It'll also show people that Danielson doesn't have a big ego about his talent. If he's humble and acts like all he wants to do is better himself, then he'll be quick to make friends in the locker room and that'll only benefit him in the long run. So it's good news all-round.


Funny that we have this conversation and now there's a thread about. We should've made the thread, lol....

Anyway, the only bad thing about Danielson spending some time in FCW is that I continue to be in complete withdrawal. Selfish, I know.

I think this decision is a mixture of things others have already mentioned. First of all, Danielson is a perfectionist. By all accounts, it appears that his dark match was high quality, but if it wasn't somewhere near perfect, the man isn't going to be happy with it. Afterall, his final ROH match was Sept. 26th, which means it's been over 3 months since he's worked a match. It is feasible for someone who holds themselves to a very high standard to feel subpar after a layoff like that.

Secondly, Danielson is a smart man so he has to realize that the guys who have been established in the WWE for years are not going to care about his previous reputation. It sounds like Danielson is doing everything right to make his WWE stay a success and if that means humbling yourself before someone else humbles you, then so be it.
 
Well, I've respected Danielson even before he came to the WWE. His matches with Desmond Wolfe (formerly Nigel McGiunnes) were phenomenal. Anyways, it's good to see he chose to go to developmental, because his mic work and charisma need lots of work, IMO. But his in-ring work is absolutely amazing. I think he won best technical wrestler 3 years in a row. All in all, you gotta respect Danielson for thinking ahead and putting his ego aside.
 
For those interested someone has posted the match on YouTube from the crowd:

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It's an excellent match which is hardly surprising because we know Chavo's a decent worker. But it's quite a good match for 6 mins, as clearly both Chavo and Danielson can work.
 
It's a good thing for two reasons. Firstly, it's a smart political move by Danielson. We've seen guys like Colt Cabana thrown to the dogs in the big league, and it is perhaps unsurprising that he wants tomake it clear that he wants to be the best he can be for the company. That is surely likely to do him favours with the powers that be in the company.

Secondly, it gives creative a chance to assess what they want to do with him. I think he'd be a good addition to any brand, but they can decide where he will be most useful now, and in time they can decide precisely what they want to do with him. There is much to consider when debuting a wrestler that has some degree of exposure, but who isn't a megastar. The wisdom with how he is introduced could mean the difference between him being the next CM Punk or the next Scotty Goldman.
 
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