This was originally meant to be a reply to another posters comment about being annoyed with The Rock for the first time but I started going too far off topic...
At the end of the day The Rock's selling point has always been his charisma and entertainment factor. I think he's decent in the ring but he's not well rounded or even what I would consider a total package wrestler. Austin and Rock rose up during an era when pushes were more about microphone skills than in-ring set. Austin can definitely wrestle, but he is another guy; at least post neck injury, that I would consider got his push because of his microphone talents.
The other side of that is that The Rock and to a lesser degree Austin's microphone talents were really just in their ability to talk crap. Most of their promos buried their opponents characters.
"I don't give a damn about any place." -Austin during the Canadian vs. American angle.
"Who in the blue hell are you?"-The Rock to WCW Champion Booker T during the height of the ECW/WCW Invasion. Sting made the remark during a non-WWE documentary some years ago that what The Rock said was all it took to bury a guy like Booker T and the rest of the incoming WCW roster.
In my opinion, it's only up until the PG era that I have seen many people in the IWC wanting praising these guys. I used to frequent another big wrestling forum back in 2001 and back then saying you were a fan of The Rock or Austin immediately made people think your were markish. Despite many of us wanting the Attitude era back now, many at that time were tired of seeing a bunch of guys come out and run their mouths who couldn't do much in the ring when there were many talented guys that could who still weren't quite getting their push. The Ruthless Aggression era was seen by many at the time as a welcome change to people getting castrated in wrestling arenas, and guys who could wrestle in and out of the ring were getting their push like RVD, Guerrero, Benoit, Jericho, and Angle.
I just don't see a strong case being for made for The Rock or Austin stacking up to overall talents like Jericho, Hart, Sting, Angle, HBK, and Hart. It's really only because the PG era is boring in and out of the ring that we are missing the Attitude era days.
At the end of the day The Rock's selling point has always been his charisma and entertainment factor. I think he's decent in the ring but he's not well rounded or even what I would consider a total package wrestler. Austin and Rock rose up during an era when pushes were more about microphone skills than in-ring set. Austin can definitely wrestle, but he is another guy; at least post neck injury, that I would consider got his push because of his microphone talents.
The other side of that is that The Rock and to a lesser degree Austin's microphone talents were really just in their ability to talk crap. Most of their promos buried their opponents characters.
"I don't give a damn about any place." -Austin during the Canadian vs. American angle.
"Who in the blue hell are you?"-The Rock to WCW Champion Booker T during the height of the ECW/WCW Invasion. Sting made the remark during a non-WWE documentary some years ago that what The Rock said was all it took to bury a guy like Booker T and the rest of the incoming WCW roster.
In my opinion, it's only up until the PG era that I have seen many people in the IWC wanting praising these guys. I used to frequent another big wrestling forum back in 2001 and back then saying you were a fan of The Rock or Austin immediately made people think your were markish. Despite many of us wanting the Attitude era back now, many at that time were tired of seeing a bunch of guys come out and run their mouths who couldn't do much in the ring when there were many talented guys that could who still weren't quite getting their push. The Ruthless Aggression era was seen by many at the time as a welcome change to people getting castrated in wrestling arenas, and guys who could wrestle in and out of the ring were getting their push like RVD, Guerrero, Benoit, Jericho, and Angle.
I just don't see a strong case being for made for The Rock or Austin stacking up to overall talents like Jericho, Hart, Sting, Angle, HBK, and Hart. It's really only because the PG era is boring in and out of the ring that we are missing the Attitude era days.