What conspiracy theory? It's a known fact that we only help those who can help us. We're the people that Saddam in power, and we're paying for it now, with every soldier that doesn't come home.
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What conspiracy theory? It's a known fact that we only help those who can help us. We're the people that Saddam in power, and we're paying for it now, with every soldier that doesn't come home.
Mantaur Rodeo Clown
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When did living space equate to how good your country is? NZ is a beautiful country. Watch Lord of The Rings. And what about Lariats argument of Sweden? Not the biggest country by any shot of the imagination
If you say that, then Russia would win by default. And we know that sure as shit ain't the case. Commies.
What I'm saying is that the idea of us going over to places like Iraq out of the sheer goodness of our hearts to go help our fellow man is a fat fucking load of bullshit.
If the US cared so much about dictatorships and human lives being taken unjustly, we'd have done something about Rwanda. Or Darfur. Or we wouldn't suck Saudi Arabia's dick, the number one human rights violator on Earth. So long as they have so much cash in our banks, they practically own us. Why do you think we got involved in Iraq in the 90s? Saudi Arabia, again.
The US doesn't give a shit about morals or good and bad. We support who can help us, and don't give a shit about who can't. Which is why we gladly supported tyrants who killed millions of their own people so long as they just kept in line with us.
klunderbunker
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Cuba: nothing we need, communist government. Carry on.
Iraq: oil. DOWN WITH OPPRESSION! DEMOCRACY MUST REIGN!
Iraq: oil. DOWN WITH OPPRESSION! DEMOCRACY MUST REIGN!
I'll be the first to say that I have no idea what I'm talking about. They don't teach history in schools, or rather, relevant history. (I'd hardly consider studying Macedonians relevant to today.) I'll be in AP US next year, though. That'll be good stuff.
SavageTaker
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American only helps those countries who have something to offer to us. If you think about it, there really isn't much of a point for us to go and help some other country that we aren't going to get anything out of. We want what's best for us, so if there's anything America can do to make sure it's helping itself, then we will probably do whatever that is.
Agreed. What I was trying to say is that 48/7 was right, he just had the reasoning all wrong. If someone attacked Taiwan tomorrow, we'd save them because we'd have nowhere else to get our toys. If someone bombed Venezuela into ash, we'd be blowing Hugo, trying to rebuild the country to save our oil prices. I know how it works...
Don't pretend that you know politics.
klunderbunker
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....do people even read what I say before they try to rip it apart? First line: IN NO WAY AM I SAYING FOR SURE THAT I'M COMPLETELY RIGHT.
Anyway, for the space thing, we have a huge country where people can go just about anywhere they want. We have room to grow. As for Lariat, fine and good about women. There are several beautiful women here, but looks mean little to me as far as someone I'm romantically interested in, but that's neither here nor there.
Pretty much what he said.
They teach history in schools, but they teach revisionist history. I know for a fact that German kids today learn about WWII much differently than we do, and I doubt that kids in Japan are revelling over the day Fat Man and Little Boy mutated their grandparents.
SavageTaker
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Freddy4190
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I pretty much agree with alot of this in the fact that being in Iraq, Afghanistan, is pointless minus the fact that oil comes from or from around there. Putting more troops into Iraq was just a slaughterhouse for US Soldiers. The Outstanding Public Debt as of 23 Aug 2009 at 09:01:15 AM GMT is: $11,730,470,572,115.87. That is fucking ridiculous. We've been at war for just about 9 years. For what reason? For what POSITIVE reason? There are reasons, but all are negative. None are for the good of America.
I am not pretending to know politics. It's just me using my common sense.
Orrrrr, paraphrasing what everyone else has already said. Again.
I appreciate all of those things, but they are true of so many other nations. Nobody goes without food and water in Europe, most of the countries in Europe get free medicine, we have security. Britain may not have space, but Sweden, the country I also believe to be the greatest on earth certainly does, as do Germany, France, the other scandanavian countries and Spain.to name but a few.
As for dominant in military, yes, but you have lost a war, Vietnam, and Korea was a draw. Britain hasn't lost a war since we lost to, well you, some 230 years ago, and Sweden doesn't fight wars, which I'd argue is an all together better place to be. You could argue inaction, but isolationism worked for you guys for a long time.
There's fewer limitations here and elsewhere in Europe.
I suppose, as you have proved, the thing that sets America apart is its fierce sense of partriotism, which is often laced with bigotry here. I don't know if that is necessarily a good thing though.
Thanks for a proper answer, by the way.
SavageTaker
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Even if no one else had said I would have said it anyways.
Viola Moonlight
I'm Literally Just Here for WZCW
Hats with corks are stereotypical, hats without corks is Australian. The gravity pressure in Australia disallows corks to worn on those hats as they weigh us down whilst we walk. We have high gravity levels compared to everywhere else
The more you know...
You don't have free health care
This coming from the guy whose country is known for their amazing dental care
I pretty much agree with alot of this in the fact that being in Iraq, Afghanistan, is pointless minus the fact that oil comes from or from around there. Putting more troops into Iraq was just a slaughterhouse for US Soldiers. The Outstanding Public Debt as of 23 Aug 2009 at 09:01:15 AM GMT is: $11,730,470,572,115.87. That is fucking ridiculous. We've been at war for just about 9 years. For what reason? For what POSITIVE reason? There are reasons, but all are negative. None are for the good of America.
I'll avoid commenting on anything about the conflicts in the middle east, because we can all agree it's pretty much a pointless bloodbath for all parties.
As far as the debt, I don't think too many people genuinely care. Whatever it is we may owe France, I'm pretty sure they'll forgive and forget if Hitler and Himmler's great great grandchildren came rolling through with Howitzers.
Mantaur Rodeo Clown
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Yeah I read that, your first post. But how the hell am I supposed to argue if you're not taking a strong stance?
Yeah Sweden arent the greatest country, agreed. I find tits a little less appealing than having great life expectancy rates.I just looked up the rates, and Sweden doesnt do too badly, but HOLY FUCKING SHIT, The US is number 50 on that list. Thank god I live in number 7.
klunderbunker
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Sure they're true in many other nations, never said they weren't. It's something we have as well. Yeah the free medicine thing is indeed a big black mark. I mentioned the exceptions, meaning Vietnam and Korea and others.
SavageTaker
Everybody Has A Price!
Prior knowledge of your posting style leads me to believe very differently.
Weren't you leaving?
And I don't see how it leads you to believe differently. You don't know me and you don't know what I've learned.
klunderbunker
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I repeat a lot of stuff 48. It's worked for me. ST is pretty good to me.
Freddy4190
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Jeez. All the cool shit happens in the Bar Room. Gotta love how this thread has 10 people viewing it, and the thread from which it was started has 1 person, me.. viewing it.
http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=62693
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http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=62693
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Nobody goes without food and water? Have you taken a look at Eastern Europe?
As far as Germany having space, excuse me while I laugh my ass off. I've met people that live in Germany, and have had "pen pals" that live in Germany. One of the biggest problems in Germany is too many people. The population is growing too fast for the country to keep up with, and people end up living in tiny apartments. I don't know about the Scandanavian countries or France, but Germany is certainly not known for it's immense wealth and green pastures.
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