To be fair if you ask anyone to look back at themselves as a fan at sixteen a vast majority will tell you they had no idea what they were talking about. The problem is as a young fan you're not developed enough to understand all the finer nuances that go into talent development, booking/storytelling and general business practices. At the age of sixteen the best approach is to ask for discussion about your opinions instead of shooting off as if they are fact. It would also be best to keep an open mind and gain knowledge from those with a much wider prospective. To sum it up, don't be a jack off.
Proof Cesaro Is Being Held Back
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To be fair if you ask anyone to look back at themselves as a fan at sixteen a vast majority will tell you they had no idea what they were talking about. The problem is as a young fan you're not developed enough to understand all the finer nuances that go into talent development, booking/storytelling and general business practices. At the age of sixteen the best approach is to ask for discussion about your opinions instead of shooting off as if they are fact. It would also be best to keep an open mind and gain knowledge from those with a much wider prospective. To sum it up, don't be a jack off.
Franchize1990
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1.) As shown above, Cesaro is in a MUCH better position on the card today as compared to where he was at this time last year. I think if the WWE was trying to hold a guy back, he'd be a bit further down the totem pole. 2.) That's not holding a wrestler back, that's bad booking from the WWE's standpoint to turn him heel after WM 30. Once they decided to turn him heel, teasing the Swing only to not do it is a good heel tactic. Traditionally, you don't want your fans cheering for the heels, you want them booing the heels.
But isn't he in this spot right at this very moment? He's been getting more time in the ring, he's sharing that ring with current upper mid carders in Orton and Sheamus, and it looks like he'll be the next one up to face Kevin Owens once it's all said and done.
I remember a thread where you were a little critical of WWE booking when Cesaro was left off of the Battleground card. My question to you would be: Given that you want him in an actual feud with a logical story when the ppv occurs, where exactly did Cesaro fit into the Battleground card? The only "logical" feud he had going at that time was the one with Kevin Owens and that spot has already been filled. Any other guy on that card brings the random match that you don't want Cesaro to be a part of.
Sidenote: Very rare that wrestlers with very limited main event experience get to go past the 15:00 mark on a ppv so that may be asking for a little much in Cesaro's case, especially when he can put on a great in ring show in half that time.
In conclusion, if you wanted to make this thread around the middle of 2014 then a better argument could have been made for what you're proposing here. However, if Cesaro can keep this wave going and develop a persona the fans (both casual and hardcore) can get behind while he's at it, then a run as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion might not be so far-fetched. And if you can't see that, then you just can't see it. See what I did there?
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He hasn't won a PPV match in nearly 5 months and hasn't been on the last 2 PPVs.
It's bad booking that caused Cesaro to be held back.
At least since a little before Battleground, Cesaro has been booked correctly. I'm just not sure WWE will continue that booking.
Triple Threat for the US Title between Kevin Owens, John Cena, and Cesaro.
First they were putting over the New Day. 2nd, his tag team partner got hurt so he was left in limbo on the card.
Bad booking played a part, but his lack of mic skills is also a factor.
Cesaro will be booked to enhance Owens after Owens losses to Cena.
So if Owens win you can bitch about Cesaro losing, and if Cesaro win you can bitch about Owens losing. The best case for you is if Cena win then you can bitch about Cenawinlol.
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Regardless, he's too talented to be left off any PPV.
Ok, I'll give you that. His mic skills do need some work.
I'm okay with Owens going over Cesaro.
No, I would've been fine with Owens winning that match.
Nobody is too talented to be left off any PPV.
If you are OK with Owens going over Cesaro, then why this thread? You agree with WWE that Cesaro is better off as an enhancement talent.
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I'm going to give you a list of guys who should be on every single PPV regardless: Bray Wyatt, Cesaro, Daniel Bryan (when healthy), Dean Ambrose, Dolph Ziggler, John Cena, Kevin Owens, Randy Orton, Roman Reigns, Rusev, Seth Rollins, and Sheamus. There are probably others I'm forgetting. The upper mid-carder and main eventers should NEVER EVER miss a PPV.
No one can win ALL the time. There is also such thing as looking good in a loss.
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Yea, Bryan looked great that night. I wouldn't mind seeing more finishes similar to this.
Someones gotta win and someones gotta lose. Someone rises and someone else falls. I blame all you guys who insisted on "clean" finishes, this has then caused the .500 booking fiasco that ensures that no one rises too high and saps the shit out of their momentum once they've traded wins with Truth or Kingston for the last five months. Just thank your stars Cesaro survived the dip and is looking to rise again.
Held back? Him and the dozens before him.
Held back? Him and the dozens before him.
Why not just list every guy on the roster that isn't a jobber? Glad you share the same logic as WWE that says certain individuals always have to be on the card all the time.
There is also such a thing as always trying to find fault with WWE's decision when they apply the same logic because the outcome isn't what you wanted.
Bernkastel
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Cesaro just pinned Kevin Owens on Smackdown. And Rusev the week before. WWE stop holding Cesaro down; he deserves more 
He's solid in the ring but he doesn't have the "it" factor.
He's another Shelton Benjamin.
He has a 44% win record with WWE. That really isn't too bad. That's out of 629 recorded matches and that doesn't include his NXT stuff.
That's actually pretty par for his whole career minus Chikara and NXT where he had higher win percentages.
Everywhere else has been around the 45% mark.
Let's see where this Owens stuff goes now.
He's another Shelton Benjamin.
He has a 44% win record with WWE. That really isn't too bad. That's out of 629 recorded matches and that doesn't include his NXT stuff.
That's actually pretty par for his whole career minus Chikara and NXT where he had higher win percentages.
Everywhere else has been around the 45% mark.
Let's see where this Owens stuff goes now.
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Cesaro just pinned Kevin Owens on Smackdown. And Rusev the week before. WWE stop holding Cesaro down; he deserves more
Who even watches Smackdown? What was the storyline behind those matches? Winning two matches doesn't prove anything.
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Then? What does?
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Consistent meaningful matches on Raw and Smackdown feuding with other upper mid-carders with an actual storyline.
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Oh, Rusev was a jobber who had lost to everyone but Cena!
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Rusev went on a losing streak after he lost to Cena. Anyways, this is about Cesaro.
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Well-built? How?
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Raw (7-20-15) - Meaningless 6-man tag involving KO and Cesaro.
Smackdown (7-23-15) - Owens attacks Cesaro for no reason.
Raw (7-27-15) - Owens attacks Cesaro again for no reason.
Smackdown (7-30-15) - Cesaro wins in a tag match over KO. Why are they feuding?
Raw (8-3-15) - Owens avoids another confrontation with Cesaro by walking to the back during a MizTV segment. Again, why are they feuding?
Smackdown (8-6-15) - Nothing
Raw (8-10-15) - They both lose to Orton in a Triple Threat #1 Contender's match. Would someone please tell me why they're feuding?
Smackdown (8-13-15) - Owens wins in a tag match over Cesaro. A randomly-thrown-together-at-the-last-minute tag match at that.
Raw (8-17-15) - Cesaro wins in a tag match over KO because why not?
Smackdown (8-20-15) - Cesaro wins in an 8-man tag match over KO because that's all WWE knows how to book.
Well-built feuds don't consist of nothing but thrown together tag team matches and random attacks without purpose.
Smackdown (7-23-15) - Owens attacks Cesaro for no reason.
Raw (7-27-15) - Owens attacks Cesaro again for no reason.
Smackdown (7-30-15) - Cesaro wins in a tag match over KO. Why are they feuding?
Raw (8-3-15) - Owens avoids another confrontation with Cesaro by walking to the back during a MizTV segment. Again, why are they feuding?
Smackdown (8-6-15) - Nothing
Raw (8-10-15) - They both lose to Orton in a Triple Threat #1 Contender's match. Would someone please tell me why they're feuding?
Smackdown (8-13-15) - Owens wins in a tag match over Cesaro. A randomly-thrown-together-at-the-last-minute tag match at that.
Raw (8-17-15) - Cesaro wins in a tag match over KO because why not?
Smackdown (8-20-15) - Cesaro wins in an 8-man tag match over KO because that's all WWE knows how to book.
Well-built feuds don't consist of nothing but thrown together tag team matches and random attacks without purpose.
Because they've created a nice little story based around Owens' insecurity and jealousy of Cesaro, and the fear that Cesaro is probably better than him. Meanwhile, Owens is clinging to his one victory over Cena, because it's the only thing he has over Cesaro. It's a fun story.
Meanwhile, the matches that they've both been in have shown a glimpse of their chemistry, thus whetting the appetite for Summerslam.
But I know you're incapable of comprehending anything subtle that requires a smidgen of thought. So just listen to the reactions both men are getting, especially Cesaro. That's a man who's been well-booked in the last month.
You're just incapable of seeing anything other than what's right in front of you, aren't you?
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