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DirtyJosé;2779770 said:
No, what you meant to say was "I grew up in an area where I was made to believe that using an inflammatory, hateful, bigoted term however you please is acceptable". Lie to yourself all you want; I'd expect that kind of behavior from 14 year old brats, not someone claiming to be 30. There's no excuse for willful ignorance, you ass. Kindly stop PM'ing me now.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Using the term as another meaning other than slandering homosexuals is perfectly acceptable where I come from. I agree that it may be a poor choice of words, but it was sent as a PRIVATE message for Sully, a kid that is growing up in my neck of the woods. I have never, in the cage or otherwise, used that term in a public context as I'm sure it would offend some people. I'm not saying it's right, but for you to claim you know what I meant, is wrong as well. Is it ignorant? Sure, I'll admit it, but that doesn't mean it's not an accepted usage of the word. You are from California, which is a vastly different setting than Pittsburgh. I'm not sure, but I'd guess there are a lot more homosexuals living in your area than there is in mine. I'd also guess that that means the term doesn't roll of the tongue as easily for folks out there as it does for us here. So stop pretending that what I said was anything more than what I meant it to be. You sit up on your high horse and act like you've never said anything that can be misconstrued as hateful a certain group of people. I'm sure if I had the time, I could prove you have done exactly that. And, whether or not you've used it jokeingly or not, would negate your entire arguement against my use of the word. Have you never used the word "spic"? Have any of your friends ever used the word around you in a playful manner that didn't upset you in the least? If so, your entire arguement against me is flawed. Also, don't paint pictures that aren't true. You asked me to "kindly stop PM'ing you", as if I sent you more than 1. When actually, I sent one PM, you chose not to respond and I left it at that. Don't insinuate that I'm sucking your dick through PM to impress anyone here, when clearly I haven't. I'll say publicly exactly what I said priavately and that is, that I think you are a good poster. I've never had any problems with you, and I still don't. However, you choose to base your opinions of me on conversations and little arguements I've had with others on here, when you don't know yourself exactly what the history is. I don't give a rat's ass if you like me or not, I'd prefer to get along w/people here, but if you don't want it that way, fine. If you want to attack me, be certain that I will fight right back. So, either accept my apologies for offending you, or anyone else with a term I used in private, or keep coming after me, and when I feel like fighting back, I'll do so. If I have a mind to just let you be an asshole w/out saying shit back to you, I'll do that as well, because at the end of the day, you're a stranger behind a computer screen and it doesn't affect me one bit whether or not you think I'm sincere in what I say.
 
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My oldest rep is from 8/24/10. :disappointed:
 
No it isn't. I really don't see how I could better explain it, if your not getting by now there is simply too many years of believing the crap your spouting to find out it's all bull, even laid with the evidence you wouldn't be swayed from your prehistoric ideas.

There is no "evidence", jerk off. It's simply you spouting grade school logic hoping that it covers up your continued use of hate speech.

I could be wrong but I don't think that's hmmmm quite how the process goes. You may call it stupid but then your still under the perception that the word gay means happy and nothing else, it never can mean anything else. The word has one meaning and that meaning can't change. Philistine.

It's not about having more than one meaning, and it never has been. It's that using that language only encourages others to do so, whether or not they mean the same thing you do. Why cling on to phrases like "gay" and "***" if you know it's problematic? The answer is that instead learning how to change yourself, you'll only make excuses.

Yes exactly my point. It'll get the shit beaten out of you. But you only DESERVE to have the shit beaten out of you if you used that word intending to cause some distress.

No, it doesn't work that way. You walking around North Philly or Oakland or wherever spouting off "******" like it's nothing will get you your ass beat because it shows your ignorance to their sensitivities. It wouldn't matter why you said it, it's simply the fact that you don't care.

I mean why do black people not beat the shit out of each other when they say it, is it no longer a hateful word when your in certain company?? Because if it isn't then I'm right. And if it is then every time a black person calls themselves or another person THAT WORD they are actually insulting them and therefore DESERVE to get just as much hate for it. Pick. Those are the only two options.

Now we get to ultimatums. Ha. Like there isn't conflict in the Black Community about the use of that word. You like to talk like you know what you are on about, but you don't.

I'm afraid the mark was there and you missed by a few miles. I haven't once used those words, I don't use them in real life because there has never been the circumstance where it has been acceptable for me to. But what if I had a black friend and he told me he didn't mind me saying that to him. Am I still at fault if my friend has no problem with it just because it is historically a repelling word. Give you a clue, answer yes and your an idiot.

What you say with your friends in private is your own business. Your token black friend does not speak for an entire community, and to think that his permission would allow you to speak as you wish would be foolish.

Well firstly a lot can be read from the tone, like I can tell from the way you write that your an impulsive, non-pensive know-it-all who actually knows very little.

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If I say I hate ****, then it's fair to say what I mean by that, I went to the shop to buy some **** it's clear I'm using the word in a different way. I mean if you can't tell apart the two thats just you, I'm sure most people can understand the gravitas of a given situation. All I can really say is that if someone is stupid enough not to note how a certain word is being used in a sentence, there really isn't much that can be done for them.

HHHeartbreakKid called Stormtrooper a "******". Regardless of whether he meant idiot or homosexual, it's still an inappropriate use of the term because the message is still "****** = negative" and the generally accepted use of the term is as a homophobic slur.

I haven't created a reality, I live within it whilst you knock on the glass window remiss of all the things you don't understand. I honestly can't imagine how someone claiming to be your age but with your intellect hasn't jammed a pencil into their brain or been run over walking backwards into the road or something similarly stupid to prematurely end their life.

It's because, unlike you, I keep aware of my surroundings, and of the people around me. I see how much hate speech hurts people, and I feel for them. I sympathize with them that they must suffer ignorant turds like you who will bend over backwards spinning excuses to ensure that they don't have to change one bit about themselves.

And by the way, may I be the first person to accuse you of being hateful towards gay people and black people. For because you used the words you so highly covet as offensive, you must be guilty of your own crime you hypocritical eejit.

Go for it, I'm not the one who accused the black community of being over-sensitive to the use of the term "******".

Also, scoping out your Facebook page, I don't see one non-white on there. Interesting.

I'll not be responding to your shallow ramblings after this, I'd rather not tongue-wag with someone that has NO idea of what it is they're trying to prove.

And what are you trying to prove? That you are allowed to use hate speech as long as you pretend it means something else? If you write "idiot" on a man's garage with spray paint, it's vandalism. If you write "******", it's a hate crime.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Using the term as another meaning other than slandering homosexuals is perfectly acceptable where I come from.

You must come from Backwards-ville, USA, where ignorance is supreme and Wal-Mart is god.

I agree that it may be a poor choice of words, but it was sent as a PRIVATE message for Sully, a kid that is growing up in my neck of the woods. I have never, in the cage or otherwise, used that term in a public context as I'm sure it would offend some people. I'm not saying it's right, but for you to claim you know what I meant, is wrong as well.

I never claimed to know what you meant by it. I merely called you out for using it in the first place.

Is it ignorant? Sure, I'll admit it, but that doesn't mean it's not an accepted usage of the word. You are from California, which is a vastly different setting than Pittsburgh. I'm not sure, but I'd guess there are a lot more homosexuals living in your area than there is in mine. I'd also guess that that means the term doesn't roll of the tongue as easily for folks out there as it does for us here.

See what I mean about excuses? "Oh, surely gays only exist out in California. Out here we just use it so often that we've forgotten that we do". Pitiful. You don't think folk out here throw out "gay" and "***" frequently? That's no excuse. You aren't in some pocket universe, it's just be bred into you that it's ok to do so. It's like a group of white boys saying "****** this, ****** that" because they've checked over their shoulder that there aren't any black people around. Pretty much everything about this statement is wrong.

So stop pretending that what I said was anything more than what I meant it to be.

Which was an insult. Which only serves to continue to influence others into using the term that way. Which would be the entire point I am making, but you two would rather try to make excuses instead of facing up to something about yourselves that you should probably change.

You sit up on your high horse

I've actually never sat on a horse before.

and act like you've never said anything that can be misconstrued as hateful a certain group of people.

Like many of my generation, I grew up using "gay" and "***" in everyday life. I had to work to eliminate those words from my vocabulary because I realized they were just as offensive as "kyke" and "******". I don't see what the big deal is in trying to be less of an asshole in life.

I'm sure if I had the time, I could prove you have done exactly that. And, whether or not you've used it jokeingly or not, would negate your entire arguement against my use of the word. Have you never used the word "spic"? Have any of your friends ever used the word around you in a playful manner that didn't upset you in the least? If so, your entire arguement against me is flawed.

And after all the excuses, we down to the good ol' "you've probably done it before so you can't say anything about it" argument. Typical.

Also, don't paint pictures that aren't true. You asked me to "kindly stop PM'ing you", as if I sent you more than 1. When actually, I sent one PM, you chose not to respond and I left it at that. Don't insinuate that I'm sucking your dick through PM to impress anyone here, when clearly I haven't. I'll say publicly exactly what I said priavately and that is, that I think you are a good poster. I've never had any problems with you, and I still don't. However, you choose to base your opinions of me on conversations and little arguements I've had with others on here, when you don't know yourself exactly what the history is. I don't give a rat's ass if you like me or not, I'd prefer to get along w/people here, but if you don't want it that way, fine. If you want to attack me, be certain that I will fight right back. So, either accept my apologies for offending you, or anyone else with a term I used in private, or keep coming after me, and when I feel like fighting back, I'll do so. If I have a mind to just let you be an asshole w/out saying shit back to you, I'll do that as well, because at the end of the day, you're a stranger behind a computer screen and it doesn't affect me one bit whether or not you think I'm sincere in what I say.

Why not tell me how you really feel about it?
 
DirtyJosé;2781866 said:
Which was an insult. Which only serves to continue to influence others into using the term that way. Which would be the entire point I am making, but you two would rather try to make excuses instead of facing up to something about yourselves that you should probably change.

I know I said I wouldn't reply but this line I really don't like, your making it sound like I am actually racist. My entire point is based upon the idea that there are scenarios where the use of such terms is not meant in a homophobic or racially depreciative manner. It's that simple. I never have, never will be racist or disrespectful to somebody else's race or sexuality because I don't believe in inequality based on those things. You see I concede that the terms are on the whole meant offensively with their most comon definition in mind, it's blaitantly obvious. It's just on the off occassion I believe they aren't. You obviously believe that they are racist or homophobic in any context, lets leave it at that. And can you not snoop around my facebook page thanks, if you need directing to any of my black friends from my pre-dominantly white suburban neighbourhood just ask and I'll oblige.
 
It was my fault. I shouldn't have posted the picture, or I should have edited it out or something.
 
My entire point is based upon the idea that there are scenarios where the use of such terms is not meant in a homophobic or racially depreciative manner. It's that simple.

Yeah, we got that. And what you continuously fail to grasp is that it doesn't matter what you mean. It's a loaded term. You don't get it, and you'll probably never get it. You'll never get what that word means to those people. You'll never get what it does to them to hear it's usage. You'll never get what it feels like to be gay and see others use "******" as an insult, regardless of whether they mean homosexual or not. So please, go on trying to prove your closet cases of when using the term isn't making a discriminatory slur. You'll never understand that it doesn't matter.
 
DirtyJosé;2782031 said:
Yeah, we got that. And what you continuously fail to grasp is that it doesn't matter what you mean. It's a loaded term. You don't get it, and you'll probably never get it. You'll never get what that word means to those people. You'll never get what it does to them to hear it's usage. You'll never get what it feels like to be gay and see others use "******" as an insult, regardless of whether they mean homosexual or not. So please, go on trying to prove your closet cases of when using the term isn't making a discriminatory slur. You'll never understand that it doesn't matter.

Unless you yourself are one of these minorities then neither will you preachy. Hey I'm an overweight guy and I take jokes about my weight in a jovial manner. I'm not fully disappreciative of discriminancies as you'd like to believe.

Like I said bury it and leave it there. I'm not a racist and I'm not a homophobe.
 
How can someone 'snoop' around someone's facebook page when they have it set to public?

And if you don't just take Jose off your friends list and there's one problem solved.
 
Unless you yourself are one of these minorities then neither will you preachy.

Do I need to be to have empathy? Do I need to feel it to be moved by it? Do I have to be gay to be upset when people use homophobic terms?

Hey I'm an overweight guy and I take jokes about my weight in a jovial manner. I'm not fully disappreciative of discriminancies as you'd like to believe.

Then be a fucking human being and have some compassion for your fellow man enough not to trivialize usage of hate speech.

Like I said bury it and leave it there. I'm not a racist and I'm not a homophobe.

What you are is a child, eager to make adult arguments without having adult sensibilities.
 
How can someone 'snoop' around someone's facebook page when they have it set to public?

And if you don't just take Jose off your friends list and there's one problem solved.

Shows how little I know about computers..... I'll change that junk. I don't dislike the guy I just have a disagreement with him. Better we talk about it than act immature and just exchange red rep on every oppertunity. I will say this though, for someone acting as a stalwart to people's rights and offences of other people he is pretty quick to name call, I do find that unecessary. Was waiting for the age card to get played. You may be 8 years my senior but I don't respond to people by posting large pictures of crap in their rep box.
 
Shows how little I know about computers..... I'll change that junk. I don't dislike the guy I just have a disagreement with him. Better we talk about it than act immature and just exchange red rep on every oppertunity. I will say this though, for someone acting as a stalwart to people's rights and offences of other people he is pretty quick to name call, I do find that unecessary. Was waiting for the age card to get played. You may be 8 years my senior but I don't respond to people by posting large pictures of crap in their rep box.

What happened to walking away from this? Oh yeah, that's right; for all your posturing, you aren't any different from any other jerk off around here. OH NO, HE CALLED NAMES! HE SENT ME POOOOOOO!. That's because in the 8 years I've been here longer than you I haven't lost my own sense of humor.

Also, I know how you feel about things, Angel, and I <3 you anyway.
 
Stop being an ignorant twat. I hope you rot in this prison forever. Go back to australia and watch your fucking tennis, with your 3rd person gimmick.

^that was a little harsh, my apologies. Nah, just kidding. Fuck you Bill Lesnar. Ya stupid twat. I really like that word "twat", and white text.


'stupid twat' harsh? no. If so, don't apologize. Christ what the hell is that. You seem to have quite the split personality. At times your like the fat little kid who cries coz mumma wont give him his baby food or you're the sick revolting psycho from the lovely bones. Odd

p.s

nothing wrong with tennis or Australia.

Actually Tennis is a much more skilled sport played by talented athletes than your American football and Australia is a MUCH better country than the US that includes people,environment and the lot.
 
Can actually vouch for that, Australia is basically supposed to be the best country to live in. Think it has the best education rate and quality of life? k not sure about the second one but, good place anyways.
 
357 as of now. Really slow going but that's because I'm not posting a lot nowadays. I'm a bit busy with Prince of Persia- The Forgotten Sands.
 
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Sorry, that's the biggest I could get it. I just wanted to take a picture, because that is the first time I ever had a full page of green rep, I'm kinda proud. Even though Justin didn't give me the best picture, he gave me about 20 points of green rep, and that's cool. Then TLC pushed that last red rep down.

5 more and I get another bar. Thanks guys.
 

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