People are too hard on John Cena

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The Masked Vato said:
Read my posts. Then read yours. The truth should be self-evident. Question. Is that cursing and lack of sentence structure thing your way of "handling" me? I don't know how effective it is. Let's ask mom.
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what are some dumb ass yankee:blink: :blink:
 
Treason said:
lmao, you're proposing Cena intimidate and threaten the WWE into getting what he wants? Ha! No offence, but no wonder you've had two jobs in the past year...
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haha well said totally agree with evrything you have said i mean i love cena but i can see his faults and he is just the fall guy everyone wants to boo just now i bet he doesent like half his story lines but he has to do it or he could always turn to blackmail(NOT)
 
to me the John Cena situation is very similar to what happens to (real) footballers in England. when things arent going well the fans tend to pick somone to blame and then they will get the blam contunously untill they do somthing about it.

Owen Hargeaves for example was pretty much hated here but after a few solid performances the people who doubted him opend up and realised he wasnt as bad as thier rash judgement made them believe.

i think the same has happend with Cena, WWE was evidently going down hill and he was the no1 guy at the moment. he is no rock or no Austin and he cant single handedly hold the company up like they could. he is an average wrestler, not great by any means buy the negative hype around him means people are only seeing the bad things he does and the good thing he does are instatntly forgotten becasue people just dont want to see it.
 
Hi, newb here.
Never posted before, but having read all the debate about John Cena, I just had to chime in.
I think John Cena's biggest problem is exposure. He's been put out there on the main display by the WWE for quite a while now, and fans are starting to get burned out on him. That's why they're turning against him. Someone mentioned Rocky Maivia earlier, and I think that's the perfect analogy. No one wants to have a guy shoved down their throat.
Blame can be laid on so many things: WWE, Creative, the McMahons, Cena himself (both wrestling and personality wise).
But why waste time blaming everybody and start thinking about what can be done to improve his character?
I personally would like to see him drop back a little bit, maybe even take some time off for a while so he can get him and his character refocused a bit.
With all the pressure and controversy surrounding his character, maybe the cracks are starting to show more.
And I know they want to show that Cena's toughening himself up and becoming more extreme, but again, I think they need to tone it down just a bit more.

I'm not a smark. I'm not a mark for Cena either. I am however, a long-time wrestling fan and I know what I like to see. If anyone disagrees with the above, feel free to reply. Just remember, phrases like "STFU" and other incoherent or swear-filled remarks will be ignored.
 
Cena's problem is that he gets pushed as the number one guy, and lacks the in ring ability, the charisma and the storyline that people expect to keep them interested in what's going on in WWE. At this point in time I think the WWE is fairly strong in main event and midcard categories but while they call all their wrestlers superstars they don't have what a in other sports would be called a "super star". They have stars. The problem is that Cena may be acceptable as a star, but they keep building him like a superstar and at the end of the day people are just left saying "he's just not that good..". Its like a movie that critics love and makes no money at the box office.
 
Cena does make the WWE money that's why all of the WWE title belts are all sold out right now I went to check it out a few days ago and they were sold out at the moment and like him or not he does his job and is good at it.
 
I don't mind Cena.

But why should he have even dropped the belt to Edge? What exactly has Edge been able to prove in WWE? That he can cheat on his wife with Lita all the while turning his back on who was supposed to be his best friend, Matt Hardy. Not to mention the way Edge rambles on the mic like a nerd at he prom. Edge's wrestling ability is suspect at best! 3 of his key moves are stolen from other wrestlers. Gangrel, Rhyno, and Christian!
 
I think saying someone "stole" a wrestling move is pretty stupid to begin with, considering how many of these guys "invented" a new move as opposed to simply popularizing a move that prexisted. Furthermore, how do you "steal" a move that's a football tackel? Unless your suggesting the Monday Night Football called and they want edge to stop tackling people because it infringes on their intellectual property.

Beyond that Edge is more of a talent than Gangrel, Christian,Rhyno or Matt Hardy. Gangrel was never over, Christian was always too small and scrawny to really compete with the heavyweights, Rhyno couldn't conduct an interview to save his life, ditto with Matt Hardy. Edge has a fairly good arsenal of moves, gives a good promo and is over as a heel.
 
FLUFF said:
^No, i don't sell millions of dollars worth of merchandise, but neither does Cena. WWE sells it with his stupid ass coined terms he says. (There, that isn't bashing Cena marks or saying he can't wrestle) And when was the last time a crowd of 255 people chanted Holy Shit, holy shit, holy shit after a move Cena did. The last time they did that, was last night when I did two 450's off the top rope onto the same person. I nearly broke my neck doin that, but the whole audience was chanting. I am loved by 94% of our audience, be that a small ass audience, its more legit fan base than Cena because he couldn't have near as much fan support as I do. So yeah, I have more fan base than Cena. (another reason he sucks)

Edit: Why don't we talk about how you were wrong about me. How your little "well no wonder you had two jobs in a year" joke didn't work? Huh, cause you don't know me, you tried to judge someone you just met today and crack a joke about the fact that he is living in his parents basement and unemployed loser. So, you were wrong. HAHAHAHAHA, funny funny funny. I make more in a month than I suppose you make in 2 months? HAHAHAHAHAHA, I make fun of you even though i don't know you HAHAHAHA
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lmao 94% your audience is like 8 people

well you just seem to be angry at the fact the hes made it big and you're just a nobody

and how can you have more fanbase than cena when your audience consists of 8 people and him of millions
 
I find edge extremely boring, he should be a contender for the intercontinental championship, Not for the WWE championship. I dont hate john Cena but i just find that "thug" gimmick a bit stale now, I find it annoying. The heat he gets from the crowds is a reflection of how dry the 'thug' character has become. Entertainment value = 0
WWE needs to make changes.
 
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