[Official] WrestleMania XXV Discussion

[latinoheat8979]

I guess I'm somewhat sold on WM25, I mean it is the biggest show of the year and I know all the superstars will try to give their best performance. All the storylines are being well done and all the matches seem to have a nice buildup. For me though I can already say that I've already seen HHH vs Orton, (Unforgiven 04) HBK vs Undertaker (Ground Zero, HIC Badd Blood, and 98 Royal Rumble) and Jeff vs Matt (Vengenace 2001). The World Title match will end up a Triple Theat Match with Cena vs Edge and Big Show and again I've seen Edge vs Cena and Show vs Cena many times before. The Money in the Bank is always exciting and fun to watch. The Jericho/Legends angle and match should also be good regardless of what legend his opponent will be plus I'm sure a lot of the legends themselves will be there. The 25 Diva Battle Royal should also be good just because of who will be in it (Trish. Lita, maybe Mae Young). Either way I'm going to order WM as I do every year.

 

[weird86]

As for your comment about wanting the Edge vs Christian vs Jeff vs Matt storyline, really? Lets take our best heel and shove him in a match with the crowd favourite who is not on Cena and HHH's level quite yet, and two mid carders? Christian is not main event, and bringing him back to the company instantly into the ME for Mania makes no sense at all for business. I applaud Vince thoroughly for changins these plans. Matt is not ME, but after the Jeff feud he will hopefully be at a higher level. In a years time that story might work, but not now.

I said for the E vs C vs H vs H to bad they didnt bring Christian back to SD as the person who did the attacks on Hardy. EXACTALY put the best heel and shove him in with a crowd favorite the crowds favorites brother who betwayed him and the person who attacked the crowd favorite. Makes more sense then Edge vs Cena vs Big Show. Has history behind it, and the match would be awesome. "Not on Cena and HHH's level". All 4 of these men are better then Cena!

 

[Id Chokeslam You!]

well, i watch all the WWE ppvs 12-15(i dont know) a year, and i can say that i am looking forward to a hmmm, good looking WM, while i dont understand Mark Henry being in MITB, Some1's gotta catch the high fliers i guess. I dont know how much he has to offer, i Really hope Kane can win the MITB, and get a MUCH deserves to have at least one respectable title run, (1-3 months)Then the WWE could take it off on him with a high-midcarder and allow him to show what he can do...

HHH Vs Randy Orton really isnt looking that bad, but i expect a lot of rest holds, (Randy orton, man of a 1000 sleepers)
i think the last match, wasn't to bad even thou it was cut short do to an injury, Yet this time we wont have the joy of watching them beat each other apart with weapons. If we are lucky We'll end WM with HHH face down on the mat

Big Slow Vs Edge....
i think we are all looking forward to this match, but not from a wrestling standpoint, but as the end off the "marrage" of Vicki and edge, and allow edge to be the RatedRSuperstar snake of a guy we all love or love to hate....

Cena???-he Needs a Super heel.......

 

[My$terio_Fan]

I might be in the minority but I am so pumped for the 25 Women's battle royal! It might sound lame but even if the rest of the card sucked, I would probably buy(or in my case help buy)WrestleMania.

Just to see Lita back in the ring would be worth the money to me. Although the actual match won't be anything worth getting excited for I can't wait to see Lita, Trish, Molly and others back. I would love for it to come down to Lita & Trish but in a way I hope McCool wins it by elminating Trish and Lita last, just so maybe it will help get McCool over(even if a little).

I think this is the best option for WM, since a singles match wouldn't be anything special and I don't want a lame divas tag match. If Mae Young is involved then I predict she will win, which would be lame. This will be something special having all thoes beloved divas back and just seeing them in action will be amazing

And maybe this will open the door to have some of them come back fulltime(like Molly). I am so excited for this now.

 

[weird86]

I agree 100% with the above. Lita, Trish and maybe China coming back may be the best thing about WM25. If anything maybe Austin vs jericho if that happens may beat that, otherwise this and HBK vs Taker is the best part of WM25 and the only reason to order as far as I'm concerned.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

How much longer am I gonna be subjected to the mindless ramblings of people assuming Steve Austin has one more match left in him? Much less, would waste it on Chris Jericho of all people?

Just because Austin is getting inducted, and Jericho is taking up a Legend killer storyline.. does not automatically connect them to having a showdown, inside the ring in a match, at Mania.

Do I believe Austin might very well Stunner Jericho? Fuck yes. Do I think Austin is gonna lace them up, and have a full on wrestling match.. hell no.

Steve Austin retired for medical reasons, and obviously he hasn't felt the need to step back into the ring since. So just because this is the "25th Anniversary" doesn't suddenly change a thing.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

The second it was announced that there would be a Wrestlemania 25, I was sold on Wrestlemania 25. OF course. If your a wrestling fan, and you order shows, this is IT.

Not to mention, the match of all matches, Mr.Wrestlemania Vs The streak.

sure the two title matches look to be rather uninspiring, but hey, everyone involved is capable of exceeding expectations. I would never miss a WM if I could help it, and damn sure wont be missing this one.

 

[The Todd]

"Not on Cena and HHH's level". All 4 of these men are better then Cena!

Oh my word man, you are a legend. I've had the fucking worst night out I could have imagined, yet reading that cheered me up. I can see your point that Edge is better than Cena, I don't necessarily agree since both do different jobs for the company, but to suggest Jeff Hardy MATT HARDY AND CHRISTIAN are better than John Cena? Fella, you need to look at the official John Cena thread and read EVERYTHING Rusty has posted in there. I was going to green rep you for sticking with your guns and carrying on your argument, but not after that statement. Matt Hardy and Christian > Cena hahahahaha.

Right, sorry for going so off topic, basically, yeah Mania is sold to me. Especially HHH vs Orton, man i can't wait. Oh, and also anything involving Cena.

 

[jazwaz1]

Yes, me and my mother (who is a wrestling fan, ftw) were sold on it MONTHS ago before any major SL heading into the show even started. You know WWE always wants to make their Wrestlemanias special so you are guaranteed something special.

 

[SuperSteve16]

Stone Cold will be at wrestlemania some how and what else is he going to do other than stunner jericho. I think he will wrestle at the event mostle because of jericho storyline, some one has to teach him a lesson. I coulde see stone cold coming out with other legends, leading them agianist jericho. Some of these could be The Rock, Roody Piper and the funks

 

[BrewCrew]

OK. It will be Jericho vs Hogan. Stone Cold will be on hand (Ref/enforcer/backstage/etc..) He will come out and Stun Hogan. This will keep us pining for another solid year for a Stone Cold/Hogan match. On a side note, if WWE was ever going to put this match on, this would have been the event for it.

 

[weird86]

Oh my word man, you are a legend. I've had the fucking worst night out I could have imagined, yet reading that cheered me up. I can see your point that Edge is better than Cena, I don't necessarily agree since both do different jobs for the company, but to suggest Jeff Hardy MATT HARDY AND CHRISTIAN are better than John Cena? Fella, you need to look at the official John Cena thread and read EVERYTHING Rusty has posted in there. I was going to green rep you for sticking with your guns and carrying on your argument, but not after that statement. Matt Hardy and Christian > Cena hahahahaha.

Right, sorry for going so off topic, basically, yeah Mania is sold to me. Especially HHH vs Orton, man i can't wait. Oh, and also anything involving Cena.

Ok obviously you are a Cena fan, so be it.

This is what I see. As far as mic skills Cena used to have them when he was a heel back in late 02 and 03 they were great. Call me a heel mark, but I even liked him in 04 when he turned to a face. Since about late 05-present his promos are almost a bore. He is so monotone almost always. He's funny trying to be funny because its really that bad. If you are telling me Edge and Christian arent better at promos then Cena, then I guess so be it, but you really need to watch the two of them after you watch a Cena promo. The Hardys well Jeff at least shows emotion. He may sound like hes whiney, but he has emotion, and I am not a huge Jeff Hardy fan. Matt Hardy ok MAYBE Cena has him beat, but the last couple weeks I have enjoyed Matt Hardy and what he does this coming Fri night makes him gold in my book (read spoilers if you dont know what I'm talking about)

Wrestling wise. Cena has decent matches with 3 men. HBK, Edge, and HHH. He is NOTHING special in fact I'd say hes a mediocore wrestler at best. His high move is jumping off a top rope and doing a leg drop. He had a nice ladder fall once on the outside to a table. Not like the Hardys Edge and Christian havent done anything like that, let alone can work well with almost anyone.

I dont hate him because he is the most popular and I choose to not like him to be a "rebel". I dont like him cause I dont see anything special. I invite you to share with me (and I will watch it) the reason why you like him so much. I have shared with you my reasons I dont. If theres a good match besides with Edge, HHH or HBK please tell me. If theres not a monotone or so dumb its funny promo please let me know.

As far as excited. Would you be happy if I said because of Randy Orton carrying the feud I'm excited about the match? To bad I'll only say the feud is interesting, BUT BUT the match we have all seen. No Mercy 07 you can get two seperate matches on there too. My point this feud could of happened with anyone. WHy did it have to be the 2 people we have seen wrestle the most? As far as excited. Would you be happy if I said because of Randy Orton carrying the feud I'm excited about the match? To bad I'll only say the feud is interesting, BUT BUT the match we have all seen. No Mercy 07 you can get two seperate matches on there too. My point this feud could of happened with anyone. WHy did it have to be the 2 people we have seen wrestle the most? I know I know top face top heel. Well I'd love to see Taker and Edge HIAC again but it aint happening. Why not get an up and coming star against each of these men? Why not do Edge and Orton? Top heels could be potential. It be better then Edge and Big Show, and they could of done HHH Cena 3.

 

[Slyfox696]

I don't know how I feel. If anything is selling me right now, it's the fact that it's Wrestlemania 25. The matches just aren't doing it for me right now. The apparent main-events right now we've seen before, and I hate Triple H anyways. Cena vs. Edge would still be nice, but the Big Show will bring it down I believe. HBK vs. Undertaker we've seen before, but will be nice to see again.

Right now the best matches might be the ones we don't know about. If Cena gets taken out of the World Heavyweight title match, and gets put in a match with someone great, it would improve it. The MITB build up, if the right people are in it, could turn into a very solid match, and Jericho vs. the Legends storyline I believe will have a good payoff.

So, we'll see. I'm not sold on the matches, but the name might carry it.

 

[weird86]

If anything is selling me right now, it's the fact that it's Wrestlemania 25. The matches just aren't doing it for me right now. The apparent main-events right now we've seen before, and I hate Triple H anyways.

My feelings exactly! I dont hate HHH the wrestler I hate him as a backstage snob.

 

[Slyfox696]

My feelings exactly! I dont hate HHH the wrestler I hate him as a backstage snob.

It's not the backstage stuff I hate, it's the wrestling I hate. I just find him boring.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

I am definitely not sold on 'Mania at the moment. I'm predicting that Orton/HHH is going to have a great build-up only to end in a mediocre match (and a feud that will likely fizzle out at 'Mania but will continue to go on for months afterwards). And, people already know my feelings on Cena/Edge: I feel it was nothing more than a halfhearted attempt by creative to find something for these two to do after they thought up the Orton/HHH angle (I guess they put The Big Show in here because no one wants to see him fight The Undertaker at 'Mania again and because they are rewarding him for jobbing out to Mayweather last year).

So, before I decide to order it, I'm going to see who the rest of the MITB contestants are and whether or not they plan on doing more with the Hardy Brothers angle. If I like who else gets put into the MITB match and if they put some more effort into the Hardy Brothers angle, then I will part with the money.

 

[The Todd]

Mate, click on this, read what Rusty wrote, read what I wrote, and it sums up the way I feel about John Cena, I am not writing it all out again.That's the place for what our debate has ended up into, not this thread.
http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=28139&page=14

If we talk about Cena being in the main evemt helps selling Mania then we can continue here. You just need to look at the match Cena is hyped to be in in my opinio. DOes Edge vs Big Show draw? No. Does Edge vs John Cena vs Big Show draw? Yes. I'm not saying it will be a classic, because matches with Big Show never are, but the drawing power is what is important and the story telling in the match.

Mania sells as it has the top draws (and Big Show) in the title matches, a grudge match between two popular brothers, ther Jericho storyline sells Mania itself really,and of course HBK Taker, whilst not a favourite of mine, that sells Mania. So yes, I am sold.

 

[weird86]

Thats my issue Pebble. I know he is the reason or one of few that ratings do so well. My question is why? He is mediocore at best at wrestling and his promos are very montone. I dont see the drawing power. I will say his I quit match at JD 05 with JBL was good, and his two with Umaga were good. I dont see whats so special on him. He draws yes, but why?

But where I am lost as far as this thread. How are you so excited about Orton and HHH? From 9 months ago to now the match between the two wont change that much if at all. I agree with this is the WWEs half ass attempt to put something on WM 25 which honestly besides HBK and Taker and MITB (which will be good, but probably the worse of all of them) and possibly Jericho and Austin or Hogan this is your normal Judgement Day type of lineup. Now if the title matches go before Jericho and Austin/Hogan and before HBK and Taker I am ok with it. Look at SS both title matches that were both fresh and new (Punk JBL and HHH Khali) went before Cena and Batista and before Edge and Taker HIAC. Title matches dont have to be ME at WM. 1st WM was a tag team match ME. 11 was Lawrence Taylor vs Bam. If they can do that they have every right to do UT vs HBK over a very repeated match and a triple threat that belongs on like Judgement Day. As far as the ROyal Rumble winner has to be the ME at WM? Look at Rey Mysterio.........

 

[TheGreatSPAMbino]

I just sit and laugh at everybody who says they are unsure whether or not they are going to buy wrestlemania, i laugh even harder at people who say they wont. This is a forum consistening of internet wrestling fans, i guarantee everyone here buys wrestlemania 25 no matter how bad they think it is. Internet fans will pretty much buy and watch everything the WWE does thats why the product isnt geared towards them. Dont try and contradict me because deep down everyone here knows this is true- your gonna buy it.

 

[The Todd]

But where I am lost as far as this thread. How are you so excited about Orton and HHH? From 9 months ago to now the match between the two wont change that much if at all. I agree with this is the WWEs half ass attempt to put something on WM 25 which honestly besides HBK and Taker and MITB (which will be good, but probably the worse of all of them) and possibly Jericho and Austin or Hogan this is your normal Judgement Day type of lineup. Now if the title matches go before Jericho and Austin/Hogan and before HBK and Taker I am ok with it. Look at SS both title matches that were both fresh and new (Punk JBL and HHH Khali) went before Cena and Batista and before Edge and Taker HIAC. Title matches dont have to be ME at WM. 1st WM was a tag team match ME. 11 was Lawrence Taylor vs Bam. If they can do that they have every right to do UT vs HBK over a very repeated match and a triple threat that belongs on like Judgement Day. As far as the ROyal Rumble winner has to be the ME at WM? Look at Rey Mysterio.........

That is the thing that ticks me off the most about WrestleManias lately. The winner of the Royal Rumble is meant to be the top man in the company, and he is meant to have the biggest show built around him. Rey, then Taker and Cena, all won the Royal Rumble then didn't appear in the Main Event. To me, that shows they planned short term for the winner of the Rumble, then just threw them in anywhere at Mania. This time, they have been building up Orton for ages, and Mania seems to be building around him. His match has to Main Event or the point to the Rumble will fade.

As for the match up, Orton is a heel, therefore he has to go up against a babyface at Mania. The company have six top babyfaces, Cena, HHH, HBK, Taker, Batista and Jeff Hardy. HBK and Taker can't have title runs anymore in my opinion, they're getting on a bit, Batista is injured, Jeff is not on Orton's kind of level yet which leaves Cena or HHH. Both have been done recently, yes, and personally I would have preferred Cena Orton, but they have gone with HHH instead as they had a ready made storyline for it. Yes it has been done lots, but the days are gone where fresh feuds are made for Mania due to the main eventers being split up over two shows. Maybe they should plan ahead more and have more people like Punk and Khali occasionally wrestle the main events, but when they do that they are complained at for leaving out the top performers.

At the end of the day, WWE are NEVER going to please anyone. They could come out and say The Rock is fighting Stone Cold at Mania 25, and some people would complain that had been done before/they're taking the spot of younger talent. Obviously this Main Event is something that appeals to me and not you.

 

[weird86]

Holy crap your right Taker and Cena as well as Rey. I mean that does help my point even more that the RR winner doesnt have to ME WM, BUT how long can they do that till people will realize hey the RR the past 3 4 years didnt ME WM. I dont mind Randy Orton ME. I just wish it was against a newer, fresher opponent.

IDK I just wish they could of done something newer then Orton and HHH. Maybe Edge Orton and HHH Cena 3. 2 heels yes, but look now we have Edge and Big Show, and we all know Edge and Orton would be a way better match.

I agree I'm going to buy it, but not because its WM25. I'm not for the title matches. If they didn't have Undertaker HBK and Jericho facing possibly Hogan or even Austin I can look you in the eye and say I probably wouldn't buy it and on top of that WM is usually $10 more.

 

[The Todd]

Orton Edge would be good, I'll agree, but only if they started planning it months ago with a gradual face turn for one of them. It is very possible that will main event a future Mania, and when it does it will be a great spectacle. For this year though, now matter how much it bugs me, HHH is the top draw after Cena as a face and the storyline fits in well.

As far as Orton vs HHH is concerned, whilst HHH has not changed since their last encounter (actually, HHH hasn't changed in-ring wise since his debut, his moves are exactly the same) Orton's character has come on so much. Back then HHH easily beat him, but there is a new sick side to Orton now, there is more intensity there and he is more dangerous. So it works for me. I still want a massive Cena Orton feud to happen at some point though, as I feel it will be an Austin/Rock type feud that will be massive.

 

[crapamaniac]

IT's hard to get excited about wm 25 when we hardly know any of the matches , surely we are gonna get a hardy tlc match and who`s cena gonna fight and which legend fight y2j. My answer to the post is no i`m not sold on wm25 i`m more excited about the matches not yet verified

 

[The Todd]

IT's hard to get excited about wm 25 when we hardly know any of the matches , surely we are gonna get a hardy tlc match and who`s cena gonna fight and which legend fight y2j. My answer to the post is no i`m not sold on wm25 i`m more excited about the matches not yet verified

No we aren't. 1) There are enough ladders in the line up as it is. You have that and MitB and people will get bored. 2) TLC is not the Hardy's match up, they have never won one. 3) In TLC matches there is always a belt on the line, what belt do they have?

 

[crapamaniac]

1)oh yeah youre right I dont want the MitB match ruined i`m really looking forward to that one especially now MVP has qualified.
2)An extreme rules or a cage match then