[Official] What I would do to save ECW Thread.

[SneakyGoblin]

Great post Kieran_fletch above.

I think (a combo of what most people want) ECW needs is a mixture of older stars but mainly younger talent that needs a push, like Morrisson, Punk, Burke and Shelton. Let the champion pick what match style he will defend his title in - all extreme rules style matches.

It would be so easy to make ECW the best WWE show based on wrestling talent alone. Sure, it won't get the ratings but ECW has the best world champion of any of the 3 brands right now hen it comes to in-ring ability...

 

[RonMexico]

i say this every time that this question is asked around me: THE NEW ECW WILL ALWAYS FALTER WHEN COMPARED TO THE ORIGINAL. THE NEW ECW IS A GOOD PRODUCT. NOONE CAN COMPLETELY BRING BACK THE DEAD. Come on, guys. The new ECW has it's moments. Like the new breed - ecw originals feud. In my mind that put the originals in good light while still putting over burke, thorn, CorVon (what happened to him did he get released), striker (is he a manager only now) and if that feud hurt anybody it was their top superstar cm punk. his character came off looking like a backstabbing conniving little bastard. In my mind that feud saved the new ECW and that feud is the reason i still watch the product although the new John Morrison Shaman of Sexy cocky heel angle is also working for me. In short, ECW is perfect the way it is, don't trash the product only because it falters to the original, have real reasons.

oh yea and they need a mid card title to fight over and a tag team division and for the high spot wrestling that the original lovers of ECW love, perhaps move the cruiserweight division to ECW and use it as a mid card title just to shut up all the old ECW supporters and make the title like a x division title or something, or at least a WWE - Bastardized version of it overshadowed with gimmicks and face - heel comparisons

 

[tcdarkness]

I definitely think all title matches should at least have to be Extreme Rules matches. That would definitely help put the ECW title matches at PPV and free TV events above the other 2 shows' title matches.

Also, an hour is really not long enough for a wrestling show. They should try to get SciFi to move it to an hour and a half and expand the roster, maybe even to two hours--though they would need a lot more talent just till fill a 2-hour timeslot. If it were two hours, perhaps really only do 90 minutes of show and finish with a 30-minute wrap-up of WWE action and close with footage from a house show match/dark match that was done under extreme rules by guys who are seldom on TV. At least if people know the last match of te night will be extreme rules they may tune in for the 2nd hour of ECW if they normally won't watch any WWECW due to its watered down nature from the original product.

Mainly, though, they just need more talent. Right now it is CM Punk and the sometimes-wrestling Balls (jobber to the stars), Richards and Dreamer as the only faces on that show. They could definitely use some more faces to go with all of the heels/nobodies that are already on the show. If they could work some gimmicks into the younger OVW wrestlers and get them on the show in extreme rules matches (where their lack of skills would show less) then you'd have something, in my opinion.

 

[mabuza]

Right now what ECW needs is more talent& depth within its roster.Burke,Dreamer,Punk& Morrison cant carry the brand forever.Its kinda like SD! back in late 2002,when Angle,Benoit,Mysterio,Eddie& Chavo where like the only midcard talent& they wrestled each other like every week.Extreme rules would be cool,but only in moderation.The last thing the WWE needs is some 7year old kid putting his lil' sister through a burning table or taking it to their grandad with a barbed-wire bat. And with so few stars on their roster,they cant afford a major injury.

 

[gunner]

Obviously WWE is going to continue to call this show ECW although I don't agree with it.

While I don't believe ECW ever returned this is what I would od to "fix" the show.

First I would shope for a better network. Sci Fi is horrible for a wrestling show. There needs to be a more mainstream network airing th eshow so it gets more advertising.

Second I like many of you would revamp the roster. i would do that on every show though. Everything is such a mess that it needs to be sorted out.

They should take people like Jeff Hardy and Shelton Benjamin who have potential but will never get to teh main event status on Raw or Smackdown and put them as the top names on ECW. Keep Morrison and CM Punk there maybe throw in Carlito.

Being sent to ECW shouldn't be looked at a s a punishment, with Booker reportedly threatening to quit if sent to ECW it's clear that teh big names don't want to go there. I would have not resigned Booker for that. He is treating it as a lesser brand (although everyone treats it that way) why would a low mid card guy wnat to go there if a top guy won't go there.

Bring back the Television title and tag titles.
More people can be pushed that way.

ALthough I don't really like the Miz I could see someone like him with the television title.

Let Tazz become Taz again, and by that I don't mean put him back in the ring, I mean don't make him such a suck up and make him look like he is scared of today's wrestlers, let him be a tough guy again.

When the Mike Knox and Kelly Kelly situation happend how awesome would it have been to see Taz step in between Knox and Kelly with that fierce look on his face?

ECW can't be what it once was, It was all about taking chances before and the WWE can't risk taking chances now.

 

[RoyalSkull]

I would make ECW appear as an actual threat, make them a credible brand. ECW needs to be what the nWo was to WCW.

First of all they would need a bigger roster...

But yeah, say you have some ECW guys who frankly just don't give a fuck, and they go and beat the hell out of some of the top WWE guys, (Booker or someone of that status, not like HHH or Cena or anything...) with a chair and whatnot, proving that ECW is more hardcore and a threat to WWE. Take it from there...

 

[kalem2k]

The only way to save ECW is to move a upcoming superstar to the roster like Chris Masters that would be a perfect,,,,,,,,, he could feud with CM Punk

Another thing i would do to save the show is sign a two hour period for the show on scifi then bring ecw tag tittles and the televison championship to ecw...................

 

[jumperpl]

I think a good move would be like I said in a previous post make Mick the commish again but at ECW than get rid of the ECW belt and replace it with the hardcore hell bring back hardcore and keep the ECW hell even better since everyone wants to see more brutal matches do wat TNA does X division is more Hardcore world is a bit less have an ECW and an ECW Hardcore title that way elijah can get his title with punk but you can still give sandman a title if you bring the guy back. Also get a bit of variety maybe a nice idea would be to partner smackdown and ecw since they are both on the road together just to feud with each other i think a 3 month feud between would be nice and just leave Raw to live on its own since it is the bigger of the two. Another good idea would be to get a barbed wire match in that would bring some fans into the mix. Or hell just make ECW a porno and givfe the hour to Kelly Kelly does the boogeyman that will bring in ratings thats it right there.

TO SAVE ECW WE NEED AN HOUR OF KELLY KELLY DOES THE BOOGEYMAN

 

[MatyPara]

without reading anybodys comments
(that is a good way to have your opinion influenced)

to improve (not fix) ECW
i would send over Super Crazy, who hasnt been on Raw in how long?
i think with CM Punk, Morrison, Burke, Super Crazy...
Alot of people may object but even send Jeff Hardy over
think about the matches between these people

We know Hardy & Morrison can put on an awesome match

Imagine a triple threat match between Morrison, Punk & Hardy
ECW need that one other person, besides Punk that people will tune in to see

Havign Jeff Hardy as the face of Extreme, could damage Raws intercontinental picture, but thats an argument for another day

 

[magic]

to make ECW better they should let it be ECW. Bring back the hardcore matches as being every match, have Heyman in charge of the show and don't change what he writes cause Heyman is a wrestling genius. The only good thing about ECW right now is CM Punk(Morrison as well but his gimmick sucks but he is good in ring). And i noticed early on in this thread that someone was in denial about the impact ECW had on wrestling, WCW got the cruiserweights from ECW which Bischoff admits to doing, and that ECW started the attitude era although not as violent/offensive and all that jazz that Vince admits to and where do you think the Stone Cold gimmick came from? oh right that guy Sandman, and that Austin who has admitted to getting the Stunner from Mikey Whipwreck which was called the Whipersnapr back in the day, so yeah ECW had no impact on the rest of the wrestling world, bullshit.

 

[PocketJokers]

WWE keeps promoting that ECW is some how extreme. How is ECW extreme, their have been more extreme matches on RAW and Smackdown recently than their have been on ECW! ECW needs to bring back the 24/7 rule, needs to bring back all the old hardcore legends. Seeing as Folly wants to be a wrestler, ECW is where he should be. Folly on ECW would give it so much potential, and a leader who is actually extreme. Folly could lead by example, along with Big Daddy V(a battle hardened KotR Champ, ex-hardcore champ), Tommy Dreamer, Balls Mahoney. ECW has what it takes to go toe-to-toe with Smackdown. All they need to do is teach the new guys like Boogeyman, Miz, CM Punk, Morisson, Burke, and Thorn how to use weapons, how to make it safe, and how to make it look good. With balls and Big daddy V their, it should be easy. Extreme rules should be a basic for matches, and single matches with restrictions should be the oddity, not the other way around... Also, they need to up the ECW line-up. Yes, it is only an hour, but the way to make it get better, is go extreme, and you can't and shouldn't expect these guys to go nonstop all extreme. They should have kept sandman, sabu, and RVD to have multiple rivalries, while other Extremists rest up.

 

[nikkamcdraco]

Is it just me, or does it seem like that ever since the new ECW aired, there's been a curse of sorts to a lot of the talent that has appeared on it?
Just take a look...

THE BASHAMS - Appeared as Paul Heyman's bodygaurds, soon were released
ROB VAN DAM - Not a part of WWE anymore
CHRIS BENOIT - Joined ECW, and we know the story there
JOHN MORRISON - Joined ECW, got suspended
NUNZIO - Was sort of seen on Smackdown a bit, pretty much buried now
AL SNOW - Joined ECW, was released
THE BIG SHOW - Joined ECW, left when contract was up
KURT ANGLE - Joined ECW, soon released
THE SANDMAN - Joined ECW, traded to Raw, released soon after
MARCUS COR VON - Released
SABU - Released


I didn't know where else to post this, forgive me, but i would have started my own thread if i was allowed to.

 

[tcdarkness]

It seems like most are bringing up adding more titles. That would definitely work--along with making all title challenges fought under extreme rules. Bringing back the TV title and implementing a 24/7 rule would probably get more viewers who see the ECW (rightly so) as less extreme than RAW or SD! You would see extreme matches almost weekly (it has been 3 months since the last TV extreme rules match!), and the ECW World Heavyweight title would also only change hands in extreme rules, which could get a few more people buying PPVs. That is the only thing Vince cares about anyway.

 

[jacobina]

the one thing i would honestly do.
is bring back the most dominant female in professional wrestling
jazz. she really was and extreme wrestler.

 

[KingofPortonia]

They could do something really good with Dreamer after what happened on Tuesday and how he got screwed and has been ever since ECW returned. He could wage war on the 'new' ECW, recruiting others to help. Kinda like thr originnals thing earlier this year only more intense. Dreamer has some pretty strong views and if he was allowed to express these like styles and RVD have in the past it could make for some really interesting viewing.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

They could do something really good with Dreamer after what happened on Tuesday and how he got screwed and has been ever since ECW returned. He could wage war on the 'new' ECW, recruiting others to help. Kinda like thr originnals thing earlier this year only more intense. Dreamer has some pretty strong views and if he was allowed to express these like styles and RVD have in the past it could make for some really interesting viewing.

Wow yeah that's a great idea. Really original. Although It kinda reminds me of a feud I saw about 10 years ago. It was called something like The New Breed vs. Originals or something. But that angle wasn't really any good. So maybe it's best if they dont repeat it.

 

[KingofPortonia]

Wow yeah that's a great idea. Really original. Although It kinda reminds me of a feud I saw about 10 years ago. It was called something like The New Breed vs. Originals or something. But that angle wasn't really any good. So maybe it's best if they dont repeat it.

Sorry you are right. Watching big vis and the miz is much better than trying to take an angle that been done and trying to make it work. please accept my humblest. by recruiting I meant bring in some new faces because at the mo apart from Punk there is nothing good on ECW

 

[jabba_lashley]

KAEDON, if your actually old enough to remember the reality storylines from the 80's then what are you doing sitting around chattin on the computer with a bunch of younger ppl, dude youve got to be at least 20 something, either get a job or get a life! lol anyways ecw CAN be saved but the wwe (vince) need to actually try and save it, instead of giving big v (viscera) title shots, give the title shots to ppl who will make the match interesting, like john morrison or elijah burke...OR the wwe could actually try and put the originals back on top where they belong.

By the way kaedon, you just got told by a 14 year old...

 

[jabba_lashley]

i no that wwe are currently trying to bring up ppl from developmental to ECW but if they do that they cant just turn them into jobbers for the miz like we saw the other week when he beat, what was his name? silas young? yeah something like that, also while they are bringing up new talent to ecw bring back the old tv title to create mid/lower card fights for the new guys? just a thought but i think it would work.

 

[traunero78]

The WWE needs to do one thing to save the "New" ECW, and that is make it like the "OLD" ECW. The"OLD" ECW was liked because it was insane, every match should be no DQ again...Come on people loved the "OLD" ECW for the weapons, the blood, the OMG moment, and a touch of insanity. Right now ECW is likeHeat when it was on MTV. The WWE realizes they are the apex of professional wrestling, but ECW being done right would make their standing unbelieveable. It would show they could pull off more than the cookie cutter shows that Raw and Smackdown have become.

 

[rkorandyorton]

I think they should move the cruiserweight title to ecw, a lot of the wrestlers are cruiserweights and ecw was the company that really made cruiserweight wrestling popular in main wrestling industries. Also make all cruiserweight matches, hardcore rules.

 

[R G]

The WWE needs to do one thing to save the "New" ECW, and that is make it like the "OLD" ECW. The"OLD" ECW was liked because it was insane, every match should be no DQ again...Come on people loved the "OLD" ECW for the weapons, the blood, the OMG moment, and a touch of insanity. Right now ECW is likeHeat when it was on MTV. The WWE realizes they are the apex of professional wrestling, but ECW being done right would make their standing unbelieveable. It would show they could pull off more than the cookie cutter shows that Raw and Smackdown have become.

There's one thing wrong with bringing back the old ECW - it's still affiliated with the WWE. They have PPV's together, ECW and Smackdown! are live on the same night, and they have past Raw and Smackdown! superstars. The only way to make an old ECW is to have a full roster that has no interaction with the Raw and Smackdown, different days for live shows, and kind of making it completley serperate from the rest of the WWE.

Why? Well of course the IWC could see a difference, but the other half of the WWE populationwould want Extreme, hardcore all the time. If they see a PPV, let's say Cyber Sunday, and they see Tommy Dreamer vs. Elijah Burke old-school ECW style, there going to want those kind of matches all the time. With weapons gallore, blood, huge spots, a kitchen sink, mega fan interaction, how is say Lance Cade&Trevor Murdoch vs. Duece&Domino going to follow that up? It just won't work out.

Even during the week when ECW is aired on TV, if Monday is Raw, then Tuesday ECW, on Friday SMackdown! on so fourth, the fans are going to watch ECW a lot more now. Younger fans especially will want this every show, becuase that's whats popular.

But that's also another reason - Younger Fan Viewers. ECW was for a lets say 18+ audience. With all the blood spilled, weapons used, words said, it just wouldn't work being under the WWE.

I'm sorry all you faithful ECW fans, but as long as its working under the WWE, the old ECW is never going to come back. I guess you'll just have to stick to the old VCR tapes...

 

[Барбоса]

As much as I do not like it, the Old ECW is dead. Heyman and co. captured the imagination in the '90's and unfortunately for WWE by using the name they have made expectations far too high for what was always going to be the third rated brand. The Originals are not the force they were and again as much as it pains me to say are not the answer to ECW's problems. Also ECW's image was severely damaged by the constant 'special appearances' every week by Batista, Khali, 'Taker, DX etc. and it has yet to recover from it.

However, I think there is the talent in WWE to produce a good version of ECW. CM Punk, John Morrison, Elijah Burke and Matt Striker are all top performers and can have the brand built round them. The biggest problem at the moment is inconsistency of booking. I am fine with them putting Viscera in front of CM Punk to build up the challenge for the champion but what was the point of it if John Morrison was already lined up for a title bid? If it was punishment for the Atlas/OVW confrontation then the office is killing its own show. If the Morrison/Punk rivalry there needs to be a new plot that simply a title chase.

As for the rest of the show, the fact that the only real storyline is the Miz/Mahoney/Kelly affair is not good. This is not just because of the booking but also because of the lack of numbers in ECW. There is only so many times that we can see Stevie Richards against Kevin Thorne without there being any real point to the match, no matter how good/bad that match may be.

Talent wise, I think removing Hardcore Holly from ECW was a mistake. Holly can be both a hardcore wrestler and as well as a normal singles. Moving Cody Runnels to ECW to feud with Holly would have helped Runnels come on, giving him more TV time while filling out the locker room. Also I think that ECW would be a good place to showcase the Cruiserweight division. Jamie Knoble, Jimmy Wang Yang etc. should be allowed to show off the skills they showed in ROH.

 

[Soundwave47]

I would add more wrestlers on the roster,there are currently only like 13 people on the entire roster

and make every match EXTREME RULES just like the old days of ecw when it debuted

or bring the crusierweight title to ECW because most peole on ECW are crusier weights

 

[MR.SCOTT]

As much as I do not like it, the Old ECW is dead. Heyman and co. captured the imagination in the '90's and unfortunately for WWE by using the name they have made expectations far too high for what was always going to be the third rated brand. The Originals are not the force they were and again as much as it pains me to say are not the answer to ECW's problems. Also ECW's image was severely damaged by the constant 'special appearances' every week by Batista, Khali, 'Taker, DX etc. and it has yet to recover from it.

However, I think there is the talent in WWE to produce a good version of ECW. CM Punk, John Morrison, Elijah Burke and Matt Striker are all top performers and can have the brand built round them. The biggest problem at the moment is inconsistency of booking. I am fine with them putting Viscera in front of CM Punk to build up the challenge for the champion but what was the point of it if John Morrison was already lined up for a title bid? If it was punishment for the Atlas/OVW confrontation then the office is killing its own show. If the Morrison/Punk rivalry there needs to be a new plot that simply a title chase.

As for the rest of the show, the fact that the only real storyline is the Miz/Mahoney/Kelly affair is not good. This is not just because of the booking but also because of the lack of numbers in ECW. There is only so many times that we can see Stevie Richards against Kevin Thorne without there being any real point to the match, no matter how good/bad that match may be.

Talent wise, I think removing Hardcore Holly from ECW was a mistake. Holly can be both a hardcore wrestler and as well as a normal singles. Moving Cody Runnels to ECW to feud with Holly would have helped Runnels come on, giving him more TV time while filling out the locker room. Also I think that ECW would be a good place to showcase the Cruiserweight division. Jamie Knoble, Jimmy Wang Yang etc. should be allowed to show off the skills they showed in ROH.

i agree totally i think that the cruiserweights need their own brand to shine and show the cruiser title as a mid card title rather then just a specialty title like tna with its x division, the title needs a place of legitimacy and i think ecw would be that place, plus it would elevate the brand, but hey its the wwes decision not anyone elses so unless they start listening nothing is gonna change