[Official] What I would do to save ECW Thread.

[wwedbzfan42]

WWE needs to do this to make ecw fun to watch

1. Put some real wrestlers on the show like shelton benjamin, matt hardy, jeff hardy, kane (needs to get his monster image back), mr. kennedy, charlie haas (i could see him as a TV champ) lance cade (when he becomes a singles wrestler, maybe with murdoch as his enforcer), chris masters, the major bros. (as tag team champs), chavo guerrero (he just needs a push)

2. bring back the tv title, maybe get the cruiserweight title, and get a new tag team title

3. make the midcard interesting to watch

4. make all title matches extreme rules, and actually let the fans decide the stipulation at a ppv

5. make the show an hour-and-a-half

There that's ECW as a B+, maybe A show

 

[Burngun]

I'll just put my ideas into short points:

1. More extreme rules matches!
   
2. Get Miz, Boogeyman and Big Daddy V away from ECW!
   
3. Push Tommy Dreamer!
   
4. Add a 2nd title to the brand (TV Title anyone?)
   
5. No more ''Extreme Expose'' (as much as it kills me to say that)

 

[Барбоса]

A major problem that ECW faces is that it only has one hour long show into which the bookers want to pack a traditional WWE show and build its own personalities. Only CM Punk has emerged from the ECW brand as a potential star for either RAW or Smackdown and most of his popularity came with him to WWE. With such a small amount of time, perhaps ECW should just try to build the reputations of its talent as performers in the ring instead of on the mic or as a personality.

I think every ECW title match should be Extreme Rules

 

[Shocky]

WWE has a storyline article up on the official ECW web site talking about “meetings” between ECW General Manager Armando Estrada and SmackDown General Manager Vickie Guerrero regarding the idea of having talent from both brands compete on both ECW on Sci Fi and Friday Night SmackDown.

While the article is certainly kayfabe, the idea is very legitimate and is just one more step in WWE breaking down the ECW brand. The new idea makes sense considering that SmackDown and ECW talent already travel with each other, however, it is completely outside of what the company originally planned to do when they resurrected the ECW brand in June of last year.

Well folks, I think so much for saving the ECW brand. Looks to be that ECW is about to get it's death sentence. Doesn't the WWE realize, and look at the beginning of the ratings free fall from last year, that mixing the brands when they are supposed to be exclusive from one another fails miserably? Smackdown vs. Raw lost all of its luster, because the WWE started to mix the guys in matches and they lost their value.

Now you remove the chance of keeping guys away from each other for years, and then being able to move them from brand to brand to get good new feuds out of them. Well, enjoy WWECW while it last, it won't be around to much longer.

 

[drnitro]

First i would change up the roster (wrestlers)
i would cut Miz and boogeyman
and add Gregory helms, Jamie Nobel ,Super Crazy. Shelton Benjamin
now here is who i would have in the cards
Main Event
CM PUNK, J.Morrison,T.Dreamer,BDV, Elijah Burke
Upper Mid Card
Shelton, the other 3 not being used in the main event can be utilized as upper mid card
mid card
supper crazy
Jamie noble
Shannon Moore
Gregory helms
Nunzio
i would then take the apparently vacant C-weight belt on SD and turn it in to ECW TC title for the mid card and upper mid card to fight over . make some sort of tourney for it since who doesn’t like tournaments. i would also try putting shows in smaller arenas instead of using where SD is being taped(all though it is easy) and thro in some hardcore matches don't make it all hardcore but make some. also try severing ties with raw and SD so it can be more individualistic . so that’s how i would save ECW

 

[pockets]

cmon, this isnt really hard if the wwe actually wanted this brand to be big time and succeed. i think its pretty clear they dont give a crap about it (miz, big V for the title??). but to fix it, basically send over some good talent to the brand (like shelton benjamin) and actually set up good fueds that dont dissappear in two weeks. also, give some actual good matches on the weekly show that are at least a little ecw-esque. and a TV title should come back.

 

[ThatEmoDork]

*Cracks knuckles*

Okay, I damn sure wouldn't make it 100 percent like the old ECW, but I'd definitely make some major changes. First off, bring back Paul Heyman. Not just as an on screen character, but give a good amount of say regarding storylines and such. Without Paul Heyman there would be no ECW in the first place.

Don't ruin One Night Stand. Anybody with half a brain cell who saw the first 2 PPVs realizes they were great shows. ONS 3 fucking sucked. And why did it suck? Well for starters, the fans of One Night Stand 1 and 2 were a huge part of the show. They were true wrestling purists and ECW fans. Orlando could care less about ECW, there's no history or nostalgia asociated with it there. Many of the fans that showed up there, and it's obvious by watching it, they were fans that jumped the band wagon. That's not what real ECW fans are about. I don't have anything against Cena really, some of the hate he gets is above and beyond. With the last year, while he isn't my favorite wrestler, I've started to respect him to an extent for his passion. But a lot of his fans just like him because he's "cool". If he turned heel, they'd all boo him. If anything else, stick to the original ECW formula when it's time for One Night Stand, including the fans.

If Vince allowed for the true ECW to live again, it would get ratings as good if not better than Raw. Vince aint going to allow that. I'll add more to this in a couple hours.

 

[azzag]

If i waz Vince i would just stop ECW all to getha and brakethe rosta up and sent them 2 SmackDown & Raw just let ECW go with dignaty and this Smackdown murdga thing its just WRONG

 

[MachoFan]

ecw cannot be saved unless wwe does some serious brand transfer and gets atwo hour timeslot. if they use he original ecw theme of blood n guts n mix that with something the younger generation can enjoy as well then they will have a stronger product than impact!

 

[tap-out]

I like how the new ecw is more technical/athletic young wreslters. I would definitley build off of that. They were going to have benoit go there and help it, and help it would have gotten. I would think along the same lines.

If wwe once to push this holly/rhodes thing why not on ecw? No one cares about it on raw especially since raw has londrick, highlanders, wgtt, cade and murdoch.

I like the idea of Kane going over there, it gives him much more room to be a star, which he deserves. But in doing this you need to put someone his size or type that is heel over there. I would like to see bobby lashley return heel and go back there. That way you would have Kane, Lashley, Holly, Rhodes to add to the roster which would help because it is adding characters who people like.

But first and foremost i would definitely bring back Paul Heyman. An let him roll with it. See what he can add or bring back.

With the addition of more credible wrestlers you can mix of the matches each week instead of seeing the same thing every time you watch.

 

[HartsyThaiFood]

admittedly i haven't really read this thread, so if i am rehashing someone else's ideas, my apologies

anyway, wwe could turn ecw in to a successful, credible brand if they quit dicking around with things like 'extreme expose' and focus pretty much solely on wrestling rather than angles. noone cares that balls mahoney is going after kelly kelly. we've seen these angles before. we don't care. it's all the same, really, anyway (speaking of kelly kelly angles, whatever happened to her and cm punk? whatta ****e).

anyway, they need to shift the focus more to exciting, fast-paced action. make ecw almost solely an x-division type style with guys flying around and showing off fast-paced moves. that way, you have a brand that is legitimately different from Raw and Smackdown.

just throwin' it out there.

 

[Mike1517r]

Fixing this show is not going to be easy, its on at 10pm, which is too late for most of the young wrestling fans. The fact is that in order for ECW to succeed, WWE has to want ECW to succeed. When they first brought it back, they put an effort into it. I mean you had the Big Show, Kurt Angle, and RVD. But now them three are all gone and they have done nothing to replace them. They brought Bobby Lashley over and had nobody for him to fued with, Test? seriously. Now on to saving it, the talent exchange is working pretty well, i mean seeing Kane every week is a good thing. They should make this the show of the monsters. Get the belt off of CM Punk, put it on Big Daddy V. He can fued with Kane, that would be a good rivalry, implement Mark Henry, The Great Khali into the title picture. That could last for a while. Give talent on Smackdown! and Raw that are good and dont get the shot a run at a title. Kennedy, MVP, either Hardy's, Shelton, Carlito, these guys aren't getting a World Heavyweight Title shot or WWE Title shot any time soon. Put them on ECW, but more than one, dont make it a Bobby Lashley, i kill all of you and then go to Raw. They can make it better without putting a superstar on the show, but they have to want to, and i dont see that happening any time soon.

 

[JUCJ85]

They should do a few things IMO.(Oh im new here so bare with me)

1.) I hate the talent exchange, it doesnt showcase the younger and lesser used talents, so get rid of it.
2.) Move the Cruiserweights to ECW.
3.) Resurect the ECW TV Title.
4.) Move to a 2 Hour timeslot.
5.) Move Kane to ECW permanetly.

and IMO convince RVD to come back, give him the belt, and a long run as ECW champ. Maybe even bring Rey Mysterio back to the land of extreme.

My biggest gripe with vince isnt the way that ECW is being used, it should be used a developmental type brand. But that Orton has a couple welness problems, and he is WWE champ, but RVD has 1, 1 i say and he gets screwed out of the ECW title. Thats complete BS. He is ECW he and Dreamer embody what the true ECW was about, i dont even really care that much about no extreme rules macthes, i just want good wrestling, i like Morrison and Punk, but cant stand Miz.

So basically, move ECW to 2 Hours, Move KANE to ECW, move the CW's to ECW, bring back the TV title, and bring RVD back, and ECW could be succesful.

 

[joet1102]

Well as always when talking about the WWE you need to think in a business aspect. So thinking back on it now at this time here's what I would do....

1.) Utilize this talent exchange a little better. Let's get in some good feuds here. I personally would love to see MVP defend the US title over in the land of extreme a couple times, or maybe send him and Matt over to get in some tag team action. You can also make CM Punk a real credible champion. Have his next feud with a Finlay, Mysterio, or Kane.

2.) Bring up more talent. I myself want to see new superstars. Use ECW as a breeding ground for the next generation of superstars. So far they've already developed Elijah Burke and CM Punk, let's see who else they can bring up.

3.) Tommy Dreamer as the ECW ICON....Book Dreamer on the show how WWE booked Flair before he was on bad terms with WWE. The fans love Tommy Dreamer so use it as an advantage. Have him work with the "new breed" (not the stable).

4.) At least 1 Extreme Rules match per show. Isn't it EXTREME Championship Wrestling? We only get 1 Extreme Rules match once every month. I think its time bringing it back to at least 1 match per show. It doesnt' even matter who's in it, from the jobbers to the main eventers...people want extreme!

5.) Finally, stop giving us the same main events. I'm tired of seeing Punk/Morrison or Big Daddy V squash someone in the main event. Let's see Punk VS Dreamer, or Burke VS Morrison, or even Morrison VS Big Daddy V....

 

[kieran_devlin]

For gods sake i dont know why people want ECW to be OVW mark 2.

Okay having new talent on the show is what ECW is all about and i think its all about a mix.

A mix of main eventers and new talent and a mid card.

Main event have Rey on it for a year, Punk, Burke, Dreamer, Balls could float between mid and main event, Jeff Hardy, Kane, Finlay (well hes a veteran and did the hardcore division in WCW) and some other veterans and new guys.

For Mid Card have Greggory Helms, Morrison (sorry im not big on him but he can still wrestle okay), Charlie Hass, Super Crazy, Miz (if he got serious and a gimmick change), some other guys but not Carlito he dosnt suit ECW type wrestling and have Shelton go to Smackdown to fight for US to beef up its Mid Card.

ECW should be about pure technical ability but also with a hardcore style to it.
Original ECW developed into a show with loads of technicals stars like RVD and TAZZ and other so it must focus on this!

Id like to see some variety on the show, some more stipulation match ups and some more originals or even just some more main eventers for varied feuds.

Lots of the originals still wrestle so id bring them back to ECW to finish their careers on a high. I love originals they can show the new guys how to hold ECW

Only 2 guys make up that whole show so its gonna need more guts and a mid card title get rid of those MAD MONSTERS its not a TRAINING GROUND FOR FATTIES AND HUGE MONSTERS.

ECW is a show for new talent but its also about main eventers and a different style to RAW and Smackdown. It should have hardcore and technical as a mix.

 

[Rated R Super Poster]

1. Scrap the ECW name and give it a new one. Too many people are thinking this is the old ECW, which it isn't. Vince needs to just cut his losses and give this brand a new name.

2. Release Big Daddy V and Boogeyman. Sorry, but these guys do NOTHING for me. Big Daddy V is just ugly to watch in and out of the ring. Boogeyman's gimmick is just terrible.

3. Draft Jeff Hardy to this brand. Hardy could help be the face of this new brand. He's over with the crowd and would draw ratings.

 

[kilva]

My idea to save ECW:
Give the matches in ECW Hardcore matches, a little close to Extreme rules(get hit by Chairs, Kendo Sticks, Ring Bells, Stop Signs). I understand why WWE does not want to give Extreme Rules matches(Barbed Wires, Flaming TAbles, Cheese Graters) to ECW coz they dont want to risk its superstars to have any Injuries(since they only have 15 people in their Roster)

Put a guy who is willing to get hit by Chairs/thrown on tables(Umaga, Kane) not guys like Morrison/Miz who are too afraid to get hit by weapons coz it might ruin their "good" faces.

Turn the Miz into an announcer, he's better of that way. As for the Boogeyman, make him feud with Kane and let Striker manage him(and FIRE Big Daddy V) and put them in Hardcore matches.

Add Titles such as an ECW TV title/Tag team Title, and the Cruiserweight Championship, and make Elijah Burke/Benjamin the Tag Champs and make them feud with Morrison/, while bring back Monty Brown and make him TV Champ, and make him feud with Umaga. While make Jamie Noble the Cruiserweight Champ and make him feud with Super Crazy/Nunzio/Shannon Moore

Make CM Punk feud with Dreamer for the ECW Championship in Hardcore or no-DQ rules. It will at least increase the credibility of the Championship instead of it being a "Midcard" Championship.

and most of all.....
BRING BACK PAUL HEYMAN!

 

[the_phenomenal1]

There are two things which I believe Vince Can do to save ECW, both are very contrasting but both COULD be equally as effective.

Idea 1
Vince Swallowing his pride and getting back Heyman and the Originals. Then when it appears as though WWECW has gone back to the drawing board, give Heyman creative control along with the Originals, and ressurect the modern day version of the true ECW. I understand this is very very unlikely as people would be expecting barbed wire matches etc. This isn't what i mean, save the Barbed wire for the big matches at PPV's maybe once or twice a year. By old ECW i'm talking about the athleticism and high flying technical matches that we used to see. ECW wasn't all barbaric, The likes of Rey Mysterio jnr, Psicosis, even Nova, could be paralelled by London, Burke, Kendrick and newer talents still. It would be great to get back Sandman and Sabu and whilst this is unlikely (especially due to Sabu's backstage heat) giving him partial control along with Heyman and the other originals may make him slightly happier and less of an a$$ backstage.

Idea 2
Scrap the ECW and relating to "Extreme" and make it purely for the up and coming talent. I believe that Elijah Burke's growing admiration has come from ECW and proven that it does work, because when he left Smackdown he was just another heel manager who could wrestle, now he's one of the most athletic young up and commers in WWE, and his partnership with Shelton Benjamin could benefit both very well.


Either way the Brand has no incentive unfortunately and despite The ECW title watching the rest of the matches you feel still unaware of why these matches are taking place. Due to the small roster, i would rather see ECW brand not always trying to use as many of the roster as possible by having short 3 minute Squash matches, and substitute this for much more substantial matches. There are people on the Roster who can carry a good match, and with the "Talent partnership with Smackdown" many more avenues open up. Feuds between CM Punk & Noble could be excellent. Also why keep allowing Nunzio to be jobbed, build up an actual rivalry between him and Jimmy Yang?? There aren't just the cruiserweights either. Morrison is so athletic and has a good persona in my opinion and i believe given the chance could have a lengthy feud with Dreamer.

This is just my opinion and i expect many people to disagree,so feel free

 

[QUINN]

First off I personally think Vince stated it back up so he could kill it off and say he was the one that killed ECW.
Now if Vince were the highly intelligent man everyone says he is and I myself dont think alot of his decisions are all that great, but anyway, why didnt he keep all the original ECW wrestlers and take all the talent from Smackdown and Raw that werent being used and recreate them on ECW?
This would have been the smart thing to do.
Instead he has slowly gotten rid of every original ECW guy except Dreamer, Balls, and Richards and Nunzio.
And the way I see it the only one of them that will be there this time next year is Dreamer.
I sort of hope Vinces ECW dies the same way WCW died a slow painful death, if he would have left Heyman run it and use his wrestlers and do his shows his way, then ECW would be out doing Raw and Smackdown.......wait a minute, thats it Vince doesnt want that, thats why hes tried to make it into WWECW and it sucks, big time.
Its been time to pull the plug ever since half the roster and Heyman left, and If I ever got to talk to Vince Id let him know hes the reason why ECW sucks now.
Hes put the wrestlersfrom Raw and Smackdown on there now but only after getting rid of almost all of the original ECW.
I think Vince Mcmahon is the same in real life as he is on television, he really doesnt care what the fans want, he only cares about what he want.
And in closing for him being like that, I can only say this in his own words, he can go straight to hell!

 

[Rusty]

ECW was really struggling before the Smackdown-ECW talent exchange started because of the lack of superstars. I personally dont like the exchange as I like when the superstars stick to their own brands.

To save ECW the first thing I would do would be to bring in more talent from Raw and Smackdown. Hell the superstars that usually appear on "Heat" shuld be in ECW eg: Super Crazy, Hacksaw, Snitsky(because he doesnt belong on Raw). I know that WWE doesnt want to give ECW too much talent as it is only a 1 hour show which is fair enuf.

That brings me to my next point where I would expand ECW to 1 and 1/2 hours. I would do this because this week, Raw and ECW both had only 5 matches. For Raw that is low and for 1 hour ECW its too much. 1 and 1/2 hours gives ECW the chance to add more superstars to the roster and put on longer matches.

Also the WWE shuld think about giving ECW at least 1 main eventer from Raw or SD!(preferably Raw) so that this VETERAN (as I dnt want Cena or Orton going anywhere) could help get over the younger talent. IMO WWE had this idea before B***it killed himself as he was an ECW superstar after the draft lottery.

And finally put on an Extreme Rules match at least once every 2 weeks for Gods sake. There is no point of callin ECW extreme if it hardly ever has extreme matches.

 

[robotictranz]

ecw should only be for superstars who want to go for the championship
extreme expose should be on raw and ecw should also get more overseas wrestlers or example chief kala levi after all everyone who has seen him has been impresed

 

[Breakbeat421]

Vince should never have made ECW a third brand...

instead.. make it a seperate promotion, put on at a different time.. like late night... not primetime... Swallow his pride, and let Heyman run things a bit... and not necessarily have hardcore 100% of the time... but as someone stated earlier... athleticism.

Hell... Raw and Smackdown have been more hardcore than ECW... going back to the attitude era... and even now: they have Falls Count Anywhere, Steel cage, ladder, hell in a cell, no-DQ.... whereas ECW has extreme-rules like once every 2 months or so.

The good thing about the new ECW is the image... aesthetics... It looks pretty cool, like the new ECW belt and new ECW logo etc.. it's neat! The bad thing about old ECW was its image was so tacky and stuff... like multicoloured rings look like junk, and the previous ECW belt (gold and purple) looked a bit scrappy...

So combine new ECW's looks with old ECW's style= a winner. I know super hardcore will be ripped upon by the media and over-reactive parents. But not involving it with the rest of WWE and making changes like the arena stage more like a brick-wall ghetto thing like ECW One Night stand 2005 and 2006. Throw in talent that are willing and able to go extreme with weapons... but have the luchadors and super tech people to give a different flavour too...

Heck... the ECW world title belt has "HARDCORE WRESTLING" written on the sideplates.. when was the last time the ECW title was defended under extreme rules? Or any rules other than normal for that matter? Hell... WWE's other titles have been more extreme in the past few months..:

WWE- No-DQ, falls count anywhere, last man standing etc..
World Heavyweight- HIAC, No-DQ, steel cage, etc..
Intercontinental- Ladder, steel cage, etc...
WWE Tag Team- ladder

seriously... what is the point in having ECW fully equipped with a title belt full of blood written logos, a cage fence background, crossed baseball bats, barbed wire logo.. as well as a logo with razor blades and barbed wire.

Bring back these great men:

AND

ECW DEFinitely needs older experienced guys to help the younger talent like Punk, Morrison, Burke, Benjamin, Miz etc...

Benoit would have been an awesome ECW champ and an amazing guy for bringing up young wrestlers and putting them over... but sadly things happened as the way they did

 

[Here_Comes_The_Pain]

i would do the following.

1. change its name i mean its not even remotely ECw cahnge it to like something else. not sure what though.

2. get more than one title like and (new name of brand) tag team titles instead of demoting the smackdown ones.

3.make the show 2 hours

4.get some more talent on the rosters punk has no one to vs. like
hardy (matt when comes back i mean he is going no where)
Lashly (come on when he comes back no one will care i mean we have jericho, cena returning, orton, hardy (jeff), umaga, HHH, Michaels and more no need for him)
RVD - re hire him it will help the younger people
Raven when tna contract ends it would be good
and mabye someone else but that will help it alot