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they should just stop with ecw, strip all the superstars from both brands and have one big draft again, that way raw and smackdown have an equal amount of superstars, leave raw live and make smackdown live that way the ratings wars actually make sense, and still do interpromotional feuds and all at like the 4 big ppvs of the year. ohh ohh! fire vince mcmahon and dont put shane in charge, make stephanie the boss and gm of smackdown and raws gm to be eric bischoff, basically the way it was when wwe actually was pretty good even after the attitude era.
 
Either change the show or change the name
this is not ecw
it is not even cloose
i'm not saying have all matches extreme but most
also give heyman power
also let styles say what ever the fuck he wants like fuck and shit and falasheo if that is spelled right
bring back the ftw belt
also bring back the luchadors like konnan psicossis and super crazy(even though he is not a luchador)
Fuck having lashley fuck having people come in from other brands thats the gayest thing i have ever seen
i don't care if they are liked in the other brands
also don't push people like big show and lashley
fuck lashley
push rvd, sabu, cm punk, shanoon moore, mike nox justin credible
fuckin have stariway to hell matches double table
barb wire mathces
you could also have some time for good wrestling
like how you had 2 cold scorpio, chris benoit, dean malenko.
also with the story line have sex drugs and violence.
Have people cheat
make the crowd hate the heels with a pasion (like dudleys)
let the crowd decide who to push. Fuck all this gay new ecw people vs. old ecw people.
i used to watch wcw ecw and wwf
i stopped wathing wcw after nwo vs. wcw
i had the fuck enough
wait
i know this is off the topic but have dx tweeners
like in 1997-1998
only some of the stuff they do is funny
and lol cyber sunday when hbk superkicked stan lmao
 
I_Heart_Princess_P said:
I was never a huge fan of the old ecw and don't believe a new one should have been made. I think if anything should have been remade it should have been wcw in 2001.

fagot wcw was gay
your probably won of those jeff jarret lovers
fuckin queer
 
dboy1373 said:
fagot wcw was gay
your probably won of those jeff jarret lovers
fuckin queer

are you insane? WCW destroyed WWE for soooo long, it was way better considering nitro was what 3 hours and i think everyone was used and if not they still had thunder which was 2 hours and saturday nights which was i think 2. everyone got used, most were happy and if they werent they sure in the hell loved it better than wwe. like the whole dx nwo thing, both you and i know there would be no, and i repeat NO D Generation X if it werent for the alliance of the NWO. WCW was it, and its what TNA is going to turn into and probably, teach WWE a lesson and that way everything works out and WWE actually returns to its roots a little bit and buys out TNA so that the quote stands "One Town, One Team". and by the way, Jeff Jarrett deserved a push in the wwe or wwf, that would have been an amazing feud for the wwf title between him and triple h and you know it. for the title to change hands a whole lot between them.
 
they should get rid of ECW because mainly everything used to be "Extreme Rules" matches and now they have DQ's. This is just now WWE putting there own take into ECW.
 
i dunno, you make a valid point, BUT. i also think that with the wrestlers in ECW. you need the third show. because smackdown and raw cant really absorb the ammount of talent in ECW right now. maybe smackdown... but i'm not sure they would want to do that. because it would take alot of their "Jobber" or "Extra wrestlers" out of a job to get rid of ECW.

Maybe they could just change the name. make it like smackdown and raw, but with a tad more extreem rules matches.


my main complaint, correct me if i'm wrong. but with the WWE calling the ECW show, ECW... so why dont they go ahead and make another show and call it WCW? lol i mean its just kind of odd to have a promotion under a promotion, that are considered on the same level. but both having the abbreviated names. and also with RAW and SMACKDOWN. you have the WWE logo in the corner... i've never paid alot of attention, but... is that there on ECW?


I know ECW is WWE property, but i was just wonderin.


I'll have to check it out tonight.
 
I think they should definitely get rid of ECW. What it was originally was famous for has dissappeared (and gone to TNA from the looks of things) and now it's just WWE's pitiful third brand.
 
I don't understand this new ECW. The original promotion set the bar high by presenting the best hardcore, scientific and luchador wrestling you could find in this country. The ECW ONS events were strong (esp. the first), showcasing wrestling that was true to the original promotion's vision. When I heard that ECW was being brought back by WWE, I was cautiously optimistic, thinking that what we would see would be watered down, but still have the extreme wrestling, angles and personalities of the promotion we loved. How wrong I was.

ECW (heretofore referred to as WWECW) has been on for six months, and has revealed itself to be nothing more than a third brand of the WWE - in my opinion, a spruced-up version of Heat and Velocity, with a lot of the Superstars that used to appear on those shows frequently (Test, Holly, Matt Striker, Rene Dupree, etc.). This brand is ECW in name only, as it uses horrible poorly-written dialogue, very safe and cheesy angles (CM Punk and Mike Knox - Who will get the girl? No, how about WHO CARES?), and none of the styles of wrestling that we loved ECW for. In fact, of all the WWE brands, it is the most obvious representation of the company's flaws with its generic big wrestlers who have the most safe and limited arsenal of wrestling maneuvers. So The Big Show, Bobby Lashley, Test, Mike Knox and Kevin Thorn are the new faces of ECW? Extreme, my ass - these guys wouldn't last a minute with New Jack, The Rottens, or even the middle-aged and crazy Terry Funk. And not only does WWECW showcase the highest percentage of pathetic slow-moving stooges - ironically, it seems to be the place where we see the most lame match outcomes. ECW was about expecting the unexpected and having matches where anything goes - and even though there were no rules, you could still see plenty of terrific technical and acrobatic maneuvers in the ring that you practically never see in WWE. In WWECW, about 70% of the matches end in DQ or Countout - if you don't believe me, watch the last four episodes and see for yourself.

What was the point of re-launching ECW, when the finished product shares practically nothing in common with the original promotion? WWECW is nothing more than third-rate sports entertainment, and pales in comparison to both Raw and SmackDown! You're not appealing to the ECW fans (who roundly jeered the pitiful match between Batista and Show at Hammerstein Ballroom, resulting in very few live broadcasts since the airing - coincidence?), and you're trying to take them out of the equation by taping with SD! Yet you expect the sports entertainment fans to get excited over sports entertainment that fails from both the sports AND the entertainment perspective - there is nothing interesting about matches that follow essentially the same sequence (Clothesline, Power Move, Rest Hold, Heel takes over, repeat, Face takes over, etc.) and almost always end in DQ. Add to the fact that the original ECW never had a DQ in a match, and it becomes even worse. It's a no-win situation, and it's safe to say that the ship is sinking fast.

At this point, WWE should do one of the following with ECW:

A): Give Paul Heyman complete creative control in an attempt to save the brand
B): Give it a new name since Vince McMahon really had no interest in bringing back ECW and only wanted a third WWE brand anyway - I propose "WWE Brand #3" since the action on the show is so bland that it deserves a very generic name
C): Scrap the promotion altogether. Keepers in WWECW include RVD, Sabu, CM Punk, Elijah Burke, Stevie Richards, and The FBI (all three members) - all put on excellent matches and are strong on the mic (with the exception of Sabu). I would suggest moving them all to other brands and if they were to keep Sabu, bringing in Bill Alfonso as his mouthpiece/manager. Everyone else should be repackaged or released.
 
^I follow your sentiments almost to the letter. It's amazing to me that they had the balls to bring an institution of American wrestling down off the shelf, dust it off, and then $hit on it. All of the things that used to make ECW special have completely vanished with this new product. I never thought I'd see the day where I consistently uttered "DQ" and "ECW" in the same f***ing paragraph, let alone the same sentence. This show to me is nothing more than another out for the clueless WWE writing staff to dump talent they have no clue whatsoever how to push, package, or promote. It's not hard to see that this show is a turkey that has already fallen flat on its ass in the ratings department. Not because of initial cooling to a hot show, but because the show sucks ass. The once passionate and slightly insane audiences that frequented an ECW event flew the coop and are distributed between TNA and ROH at present. The only thing left in the audience are clueless Smackdown taping victims who wouldn't know a solid spot if you had Matt Striker draw one for them on a goddamn chalkboard. I also agree that a majority of the talent is completely wasted, but it's not even on just this show. They have their cruiserweights spread throughout the shows when in fact all the juniors need to be collected on one show so they can actually have something besides their already pathetic cruiserweight division. The tag team scene is a disjointed mess with no serious cohesion. I could write a book about how mish-mashed and disorganized the entire company is, but ECW is definitely the crowning jewel in the f***up department.
 
Have you watched SD! lately! It's last broadcast was filled of great matches. Besides the Miz and the Boogieman, SD! has great wrestling. Even Regal getting a push. London and Kendrick are becoming star. Is and MVP is showing growth. If kennedy stays on SD! (i doubt it) and if monty brown comes to SD!, they'll legitmately have the best show. Mysterio will be back after mania and he will make the show better. When the curserweights get more exposure, SD! will be the best.

As for ECW, stay the hell off of RAW and SD! and you'll have a show. There is a lot of talent over there like punk, rvd, test, and lashley. As soon as show leaves the show would be a lot better.
 
jericho9 said:
There's no "E" in ECW anymore. They should have left well enough alone. I would say they should have kept the One Night Stand but even that was not THAT great last year. Their new slogan should be: "ECW. Because there's nothing else on Tuesday nights!"


^that's where you're wrong.... House M.D. is on on Tuesdays at 9 on FOX.

i agree though that the new ECW is nothing like it used to be, it's no longer extreme. i think that they should just get rid of ECW like they did with the XFL and just put the good wrestlers on RAW and SMACKDOWN.
 
I think WWE should have stuck with two brands. ECW is not being controlled properly IMO. Did anybody see December To Dismember's action packed card..........TWO MATCHES!!! I guess Vince feels the Elimination Chamber is all it takes to sell out a PPV. There is going to be other matches(I hope) but i would like to know what they are before paying $40 of my money to see it. And did anybody notice the wonderful theme song for the PPV........LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR!!! The same theme that ECW has each week on tuesday nights and the same theme that it used for One night Stand 1&2.

Complete BullSh*t!

And on top of that Vince feels ECW needs to slack down on the Extreme Rules matches(As if there were many before)

If Vince is not going to take control of ECW properly then he should give control to somebody who knows better(Paul Heyman,Dreamer,Al Snow,etc.) or he should get rid of it and send some wrestlers to OVW and the rest to RAW and SD and fire the rest
 
TheMostElectrifyingMan said:
Have you watched SD! lately! It's last broadcast was filled of great matches. Besides the Miz and the Boogieman, SD! has great wrestling. Even Regal getting a push. London and Kendrick are becoming star. Is and MVP is showing growth. If kennedy stays on SD! (i doubt it) and if monty brown comes to SD!, they'll legitmately have the best show. Mysterio will be back after mania and he will make the show better. When the curserweights get more exposure, SD! will be the best.

As for ECW, stay the hell off of RAW and SD! and you'll have a show. There is a lot of talent over there like punk, rvd, test, and lashley. As soon as show leaves the show would be a lot better.
I yawn through Smackdown every week and have since its premiere episode. The Miz was obviously away at the pisser when they were handing out gimmicks in Stamford. The Boogeyman is a decent gimmick...in 1988. Regal is a solid wrestler, I'll give you that. However, he's aging and they didn't help him stay in good enough shape during some of his formative years in WCW and WWF so it took some of his best performances away from him. London and Kendrick have been stuck in a dead tag scene when they should be igniting the greatest juniors division anyone's ever seen (without the shackles WWE puts on the boys in terms of movesets and match lengths). Monty has trouble wrestling past ten minutes and keeping an audience entertained, so yes, he will fit right in on Smackdown. Kennedy is the saving grace and needs to be elevated as top heel within the next year, as Smackdown is running out of options at an exponential rate. Mysterio also needs to follow Kendrick and London and go back to doing what he does best, instead of giving fake-ass 619's to wrestlers twice his size and being in angles that tarnish the name of Eddy Guererro. I do agree that there is workable talent in ECW. The creative squad books like ******s, though. ECW isn't exactly very extreme when they have DQ finishes for the majority of their matches, considering the real ECW didn't have ANY. Fans were guaranteed their money's worth in those days.
 
I pretty much echo everyone's opinion on this thread. ECW does have talent, not enough, but just enough to fill an hour on Sci-Fi. A few things ECW needs to do to become "a third brand worth watching":

-Let Heyman have COMPLETE creative control. All Vince needs to do is sit back, watch Paul work his old magic, and see the $$$ come rolling in.
-This pretty much goes for all the shows, but get rid of the restriction of moves. Guys like CM Punk, RVD, Sabu, Mysterio, did well in old ECW and WCW when they were given full reign to put on a match their way. I'm sure CM Punk had alot better moveset in ROH than he's putting on in ECW now.
-Make ECW almost exactly like TNA in the sense that ECW will have pure wrestling and wrestlers on their show. Let SD and RAW run the circus acts.
-Cut TNA off at the pass and strike a deal with ROH or one of those organizations in England for new and better talent. I've been on a few other websites recently and heard nothing but great news about this guy names Danielson. Dave Meltzer gave this guy ***** for a match he had last year. IT would definitely show fans that Vince and ECW cared about what the fans want for a change.
 
ECW is of course not as good as what it used to be but I still think we should give it a chance, I think it will be 2 hours soon and im glad because you dont get to see anyone, all you ever see are the same old people, but regardless its still doing good for the wwe as it isnt just raw and smackdown any more.
 
jawn87 said:
are you insane? WCW destroyed WWE for soooo long, it was way better considering nitro was what 3 hours and i think everyone was used and if not they still had thunder which was 2 hours and saturday nights which was i think 2. everyone got used, most were happy and if they werent they sure in the hell loved it better than wwe. like the whole dx nwo thing, both you and i know there would be no, and i repeat NO D Generation X if it werent for the alliance of the NWO. WCW was it, and its what TNA is going to turn into and probably, teach WWE a lesson and that way everything works out and WWE actually returns to its roots a little bit and buys out TNA so that the quote stands "One Town, One Team". and by the way, Jeff Jarrett deserved a push in the wwe or wwf, that would have been an amazing feud for the wwf title between him and triple h and you know it. for the title to change hands a whole lot between them.

ok first of all i dind't mean all of wcw was gay i was talking about the 2001 which the person said they should bring back
actualy 1998-2001 was gay
i don't realy care who watched it.

secondly tna is gay
it is pushing people with who are 50
it is nothing like ecw(what many people are saying)
and lastly jeff jarret was the reason people watched wcw over wwf
jeff jarret had to get his own company to get pushed
no one likes him and he's just a plain ******
in 1995 when they were trying to turn him face the crowd didn't bugde because he is a fggot
 
Code Red said:
At this point, WWE should do one of the following with ECW:

A): Give Paul Heyman complete creative control in an attempt to save the brand
B): Give it a new name since Vince McMahon really had no interest in bringing back ECW and only wanted a third WWE brand anyway - I propose "WWE Brand #3" since the action on the show is so bland that it deserves a very generic name
C): Scrap the promotion altogether. Keepers in WWECW include RVD, Sabu, CM Punk, Elijah Burke, Stevie Richards, and The FBI (all three members) - all put on excellent matches and are strong on the mic (with the exception of Sabu). I would suggest moving them all to other brands and if they were to keep Sabu, bringing in Bill Alfonso as his mouthpiece/manager. Everyone else should be repackaged or released.


exaxtly

i coudn't put it better myself
 
TheMostElectrifyingMan said:
Have you watched SD! lately! It's last broadcast was filled of great matches. Besides the Miz and the Boogieman, SD! has great wrestling. Even Regal getting a push. London and Kendrick are becoming star. Is and MVP is showing growth. If kennedy stays on SD! (i doubt it) and if monty brown comes to SD!, they'll legitmately have the best show. Mysterio will be back after mania and he will make the show better. When the curserweights get more exposure, SD! will be the best
I couldn't agree more. Smackdown is awesome. I love the way there doing the show and the attention to detail that go's unoticed is what's making it.
 
dboy1373 said:
ok first of all i dind't mean all of wcw was gay i was talking about the 2001 which the person said they should bring back
actualy 1998-2001 was gay
i don't realy care who watched it.

secondly tna is gay
it is pushing people with who are 50
it is nothing like ecw(what many people are saying)
and lastly jeff jarret was the reason people watched wcw over wwf
jeff jarret had to get his own company to get pushed
no one likes him and he's just a plain ******
in 1995 when they were trying to turn him face the crowd didn't bugde because he is a fggot

There's nothing quite as convincing as the old "TNA is gay and Jeff Jarrett is a ******" argument, eh? It doesn't matter what TNA is like, if you watched a TNA "best of" DVD you wouldn't be able to honestly say that WWECW is better than TNA. If you did, I'd call the mental asylum.
 
is their going to be a third installment in this series or will smackdown vs. raw come over?
if so when will wii have wwe?
 
dboy1373 said:
is their going to be a third installment in this series or will smackdown vs. raw come over?
if so when will wii have wwe?


Dude..if you want to talk about a dumb game console..then why not got to gamespot.com or something.

Stop post the same ? in every threads...period!
 
seanvangster said:
Dude..if you want to talk about a dumb game console..then why not got to gamespot.com or something.

Stop post the same ? in every threads...period!

because this is a WRESTLING game
 
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