OFFICIAL RVD NEW TNA CHAMPION DISCUSSION THREAD

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Man that was one hell of an episode of Impact and one hell of a title win for RVD. I couldn't believe my eyes when he hit the five star frog splash in the middle of the ring and got the 3 count, I was shocked to say the least, but I jumped out of my seat and started pumping my fist in the air. A huge celebration afterwards and I was just in shock for awhile, great way to end a magnificent 24 hours of TNA wrestling, and I love that Rob Van Dam is now the TNA World Champion. It just feels good to say that. Rolls off the tongue nicely, don't you think?

Great move by TNA. I'm glad they gave AJ a nice and long title reign that he deserved, one of the longest in TNA history, but I'm also glad they put RVD over tonight. Hopefully this gets more people watching Impact and we can really get these new "Monday Night Wars" cookin'.

 

[Attitude_Raven]

that was a great moment that we got to see on free television! you can thank eric bischoff for that title change..he is THE man. Overall the show was fantastic and it destroyed anything the wwe had to offer in return.

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it's obvious that it was Bischoff's idea, he knows the right time and the right way to make swerves like this
it actually reminded me of when Luger beat Hogan at Nitro for the title in 97

 

[The Con Volt]

Being a huge RVD fan since '97, This was obviously a very happy moment for me. I'm just afraid that tomorrow, once the shock has worn off, the same people praising and celebrating this move on the board right now are gonna wake up and say, "Wait. So RVD has wrestled 4 matches in the last 24 hours and he managed to beat the TNA world champion after said champion had really not been in a physically exerting match at all in the same time period? What the fuck?" Cuz let's face it. Pope vs. AJ last night was not the most physically tolling match of all time. And I know AJ cheated, but what does this say about both Pope and AJ's wrestling ability? Not only did this title change completely go against common sense in my mind, again, having been RVD's 4th match in 24 hours; But it completely ruins any belief we have in Pope's skill. Again, I know AJ cheated, but I just think tomorrow we're all gonna wake up and scratch our heads at these turn of events. Again, huge Van Dam fan, so I'm sure I'll get over it. But it just goes against common logic while at the same time saying to us that RVD on a very bad day is better than both AJ and Pope close to or at their best physical strength.

 

[jrwill122090]

Man tonight TNA was awesome JOE is back, we got to see rvd vs hardy and rvd vs aj for free in one night. This was the first time in a while i thoroughly enjoyed watching tna since the hogan era began.Could they really be getting their shit together i really hope they get a good rating because they deserve it. RVD is tna champ and JOE is gonna kill you, when he hit the 5 star frog splash i jumped off the couch and started screaming RVD. Great job tonight TNA

 

[MisterRob]

While most people seem to be pleased and excited about this revelation, I'm not so much. Rob Van Dam has been out of wrestling for what... three years? He's been in what... three or four matches since he came to TNA? He's done nothing for TNA, hasn't earned anything in the company, and he's given the World title? I don't really see the logic here. Team Flair is basically buried at the PPV, then Styles is beaten the next night, and now they're left with no momentum and nothing.. not exactly the greatest way to be building up what looked like a heel faction or certainly not your top heel in the company. I think TNA's just throwing whatever they can at the wall right now and hoping something will stick, and with this move they're hoping RVD will somehow draw more then what they've been doing. I don't think that's going to happen at all, personally.

 

[Hulkamaniac]

Great job by RVD. He's was a workhorse for the past few days and pt on good matches every time out. He's one of the top 3 stars in the company of a workable age, and he's always been a favorite of mine. TNA did a great job making it seem like a big dealat the end with the confetti shower and the locker room coming out to celebrate with RVD. Corny? A little, but it makes the title seem important.

While most people seem to be pleased and excited about this revelation, I'm not so much. Rob Van Dam has been out of wrestling for what... three years? He's been in what... three or four matches since he came to TNA? He's done nothing for TNA, hasn't earned anything in the company, and he's given the World title? I don't really see the logic here. Team Flair is basically buried at the PPV, then Styles is beaten the next night, and now they're left with no momentum and nothing.. not exactly the greatest way to be building up what looked like a heel faction or certainly not your top heel in the company. I think TNA's just throwing whatever they can at the wall right now and hoping something will stick, and with this move they're hoping RVD will somehow draw more then what they've been doing. I don't think that's going to happen at all, personally.

All you ever say is negative things about TNA. Why do you even bother to watch?

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

RVD being the champion gives the title some clout and prestige. Styles is a great worker, but not many know him outside of TNA. RVD was an EC-Dub Original and was in the WWE for a spell, too... even winning the WWE Title. So this is a great move and makes the belt mean something and can lead to some potential classics down the road with guys like Hardy, Anderson, Angle, Pope, and others.

 

[MisterRob]

All you ever say is negative things about TNA. Why do you even bother to watch?

I don't watch.

And whether you take my comments as negative or not that doesn't make them any less valid. Just because I'm not a blind sheep whose jumping up and down and clapping my hands because RVD, whose only in TNA because he wants to work as little for as much gain as possible, doesn't mean I'm being negative. I'm being realistic. I'm asking valid questions. Where's the logic that has built up to what happened tonight? I would've preffered if they had had Samoa Joe come back and win the title shockingly from Styles, it would've been just as big of a surprise if not more, it would've been a younger and more deserving talent getting the nod, and it would've been far more interesting a direction forward to me.

That's my opinion.

 

[jefestatus87]

FINALLY! the whole f'n show gets to b on top of the mountain as champ.. truly deserves it and its been a longtime coming for rvd to be the man in a company(besides original ecw).. we'll have to wait n see how long it lasts.. hope it's not like his title run in the E...

 

[wbuqed]

Ok I'm pretty much with the replies that wonder if it is too soon since RVD's hiatus to immediately put the strap on him. This is pretty much why you didn't see Edge beat Y2J at WM. RVD winning now is alot like Swagger cashing in ASAP, it seems to have been done haphazardly and only in the interest of casual fan ratings which I'm sure TNA did get for atleast tonight. Now will TNA give RVD the consistent push he needs when WWE gets back to a normal schedule when they get back to US soil? Well it doesn't look like it'll have a good start because booking will probably be lax because there's no way on RVD's first impact as champ that they'll compete with a draft show on RAW.

As for RVD winning in general I think it's a great notion but for a later date, yeah I know on merit this guy does deserve better runs as a world champ so in that sentiment I do wish RVD the best in terms of a long reign and great matches.

 

[The Con Volt]

I don't watch.

OK so then your "valid point" doesn't matter at all. No one in TNA looking at your comments is going to feel any sort of fear by your thoughts simply based on the fact that you are not in their target audience. Not saying that this move wasn't a head scratcher for me considering the odds of someone wrestling 3 matches in 24 hours and still beating the champ. But at least my criticism is constructive and an assertion made after actually watching the fucking show. Where do you get off complaining about this move at all when you don't give enough of a shit to even watch the damn thing? I hear you saying that Samoa Joe would have been a better choice to come in and win this match. Ok cuz Samoa Joe coming out of nowhere and getting a title shot with absolutely no momentum WHATSOEVER totally makes more sense than A guy who not only has worked harder than anyone else in this company the last 24 hours, but is a mainstream wrestling god who has given arguably more to this industry than any other wrestler currently active. Yeah, you should be a writer for TNA. Ha ha, not.

So Mister Rob? Next time you think about polluting our eyes with your worthless babble of nonsense, why don't you try actually watching the product? Just a thought.

 

[T2KFreeker]

I don't watch.

And whether you take my comments as negative or not that doesn't make them any less valid. Just because I'm not a blind sheep whose jumping up and down and clapping my hands because RVD, whose only in TNA because he wants to work as little for as much gain as possible, doesn't mean I'm being negative. I'm being realistic. I'm asking valid questions. Where's the logic that has built up to what happened tonight? I would've preffered if they had had Samoa Joe come back and win the title shockingly from Styles, it would've been just as big of a surprise if not more, it would've been a younger and more deserving talent getting the nod, and it would've been far more interesting a direction forward to me.

That's my opinion.

REALLY? Is that so? Please dude, please. Why are you even posting in the TNA section if you don't even watch the show? Just because someone likes RVD and can appreciate what happened tonight on TNA doesn't make them a blind sheep. Like it or not, TNA was not only very good the last two days, but the booking was well done as well. I can't knock the "E" this week because things happened that was out of theri control, but that still doesn't excuse the last few months that WWE has been falling apart. Yeah, I'm sure that new Guest Host this week was much better than the matches going on this week on iMPACT!

 

[Mr. TM]

I must say, I am obviously shocked, as I had created a thread earlier wondering if Rob Van Dam was ever gonig to become the champion of TNA. Obviously he had now.

I am not sure about it. If it is just because of 4:20, seems a little silly, however, if this was because of plans for the future, I am interested.

I thought TNA was great with a heel as champion, because it could draw in fans wanting the title off of AJ. Maybe AJ was not doing a good enough job, so they took it off of him. I am interested to see if TNA does give RVD a long title run, one he should have had in the WWE.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

While normally I don't really like the fact that TNA gives as many PPV quality matches as they do out for free on iMPACT! week-after-week, I thought this entire episode was fantastic, and the perfect follow-up to what was quite possibly their best written PPV program since Bound For Glory 2009.

Heel/face/storyline stuff aside for a minute, TNA is taking a major step in the right direction right now IMO with regard to how their marketing (operative word here) their product, and that couldn't possibly be crowned with higher regard than by pinning the World Title on RVD on national television the night after Lockdown in what IMO was the biggest shock in pro-wrestling since Bret Hart's return to the WWE after over a decade-long hiatus.

I realize that a lot of people will draw conclusions to the WCW era with this victory for RVD, and with how the product is being booked right now, but to that I say why should that matter anyway? I've suffered enough through the bland vanilla tactics and presentations of the WWE over the last nine years, and I think I speak for the majority of dejected wrestling fans when I say we needed this. We need TNA, and we need them to continue to pull out all the stops on a weekly-basis like this. I'm not saying crown a new champion every week, but the going the traditional route obviously didn't work for them as they were perceived as nothing more than a WWE-lite, which I don't really think was their intention to start. This kind of semi-crash course booking is exactly what can open the eyes of the sleeping masses and make pro-wrestling fun again.

As for the heel/face/storyline stuff, as much as I love the new talent coming up in the company like Pope and Wolfe, and as much as I'd have loved to have seen TNA give the ball to a guy like Pope to really elevate him by having him win at Lockdown last nightt, part of me is glad that TNA is letting them cut their teeth the way they are before pinning the hopes of the company's future on their shoulders this soon. RVD, even as a transitional champion is a very good option at this point (perhaps more than Pope) IMO, and him having won in such a monumental fashion like this will do wonders for setting up a long-term feud with Styles over the title, which will subsequently continue the Hogan/Flair hatred in addition to the "team" feuds beneath those that will fill out the mid-card nicely (like Jarrett/Sting) as well.

In closing, if there are any doubts as to the devotion of RVD to the product of TNA left, let them be washed away with one simple fact – he just wrestled four (count them) gruelling matches in less than 48 hours to win gold.

 

[cityofrain]

Thanks Wrestlezone for just flat out posting TNA IMPACT! Results: New Champion! I get home late from work and tape both RAW and IMPACT. I jumped in here to post something about RAW after watching it. Then was going to watch IMPACT. Thanks for ruining it! You couldn't have just said IMPACT Results. Or use the *Spoilers* tag. Weak sauce. After looking, many other sites didn't post the "spoiler" flat out. Shame for an otherwise good site.

 

[TLC]

I am absolutely shocked and I love it. I marked the fuck out for the new TNA world heavyweight champion RVD. How cool does it feel to say that? It was a great match and a great moment to end a really good Impact. Hopefully this will carry on a feud between the two which could carry on for a few months which could hopefully lead to something like a ladder match which would be fucking epic. God I'm so pumped for this.

Thanks Wrestlezone for just flat out posting TNA IMPACT! Results: New Champion! I get home late from work and tape both RAW and IMPACT. I jumped in here to post something about RAW after watching it. Then was going to watch IMPACT. Thanks for ruining it! You couldn't have just said IMPACT Results. Or use the *Spoilers* tag. Weak sauce. After looking, many other sites didn't post the "spoiler" flat out. Shame for an otherwise good site.

Shut the fuck up. You sound like a little bitch. You should of not came on until you watched Impact. It's your fault and nobody elses.

 

[cityofrain]

I am absolutely shocked and I love it. I marked the fuck out for the new TNA world heavyweight champion RVD. How cool does it feel to say that? It was a great match and a great moment to end a really good Impact. Hopefully this will carry on a feud between the two which could carry on for a few months which could hopefully lead to something like a ladder match which would be fucking epic. God I'm so pumped for this.




Shut the fuck up. You sound like a little bitch. You should of not came on until you watched Impact. It's your fault and nobody elses.

No other website posted it like this that is worth a crap. Wrestlezone normally doesn't. I'm wondering why now? Kind of an unwritten rule in wrestling website communities. Just calling them out on it.

And I promise you would not take the tone you are if we were face to face. So save it.

 

[CaptainZaltan]

I don't watch.

And whether you take my comments as negative or not that doesn't make them any less valid. Just because I'm not a blind sheep whose jumping up and down and clapping my hands because RVD, whose only in TNA because he wants to work as little for as much gain as possible, doesn't mean I'm being negative. I'm being realistic. I'm asking valid questions. Where's the logic that has built up to what happened tonight?

I do watch. And I agree with you 100%. Of course, saying anything negative about TNA these days is bound to rile up the marks, so you shouldn't be surprised by that.

Not only was it a gamble to put the title on RVD this soon, but the manner in which it was done was pretty shoddy. First of all, A.J vs RVD is/was a dream match. To give it away without any advertising or story leading into it is a pretty questionable move, and I fail to see what TNA gained by doing this. Yes, they impressed the IWC by showing how 'unpredictable' they are. But they failed to capitalize on this dream match to attract new viewers. Second, they buried AJ. It was firmly established by the announcers that RVD had already wrestled three matches, and he still went over TNA's golden-boy clean. Yes, it was surprising. It was surprising because it made no sense (like most of TNA's 'surprises'). AJ was the longest reigning champion in the companies history, and that run could have/should have provided an excellent backdrop for a great feud with his eventual usurper. That formula may be predictable, but it works. It builds stars, increases ratings, and sells ppv's. Blowing off that potential for the sake of surprising a few jaded IWC fans seems like a waste to me. In addition, if TNA has now established that RVD can beat AJ easily when he's worn out, why would anyone (who expects a semi-coherent or consistent storyline) be interested in seeing a rematch when RVD is 100%?

Just to clarify for those drinking the TNA kool-aid; I have zero problem with RVD winning the title. I just think the payoff would have been bigger if they had simply waited until the next live taping for this match. They could have advertised it and drawn more viewers. They could have given RVD and AJ the chance to cut a promo or two together and therefore made AJ's upset actually mean something. And they could have avoided making AJ look like such a chump by losing to an exhausted wrestler who's only been in the company for a few months.

Don't get me wrong; I'm happy to see RVD as a world champion again. But I'm not so desperate for an alternative to the WWE or so blindly loyal to TNA to pretend that this move made any sense to me.

 

[TLC]

No other website posted it like this that is worth a crap. Wrestlezone normally doesn't. I'm wondering why now? Kind of an unwritten rule in wrestling website communities. Just calling them out on it.

Umm there are normally Threads a few minutes after a very big thing happened such as this. It's your fault that you came on and looked if you didn't you wouldn't be acting like a bitch.

And I promise you would not take the tone you are if we were face to face. So save it.

LOL. We're on an internet wrestling forums and you're trying to imply that you are tough. I can't take whatever tone I like seeing as its not like you'll do anything about it.

 

[pgerasucks]

I do watch. And I agree with you 100%. Of course, saying anything negative about TNA these days is bound to rile up the marks, so you shouldn't be surprised by that.

Not only was it a gamble to put the title on RVD this soon, but the manner in which it was done was pretty shoddy. First of all, A.J vs RVD is/was a dream match. To give it away without any advertising or story leading into it is a pretty questionable move, and I fail to see what TNA gained by doing this. Yes, they impressed the IWC by showing how 'unpredictable' they are. But they failed to capitalize on this dream match to attract new viewers. Second, they buried AJ. It was firmly established by the announcers that RVD had already wrestled three matches, and he still went over TNA's golden-boy clean. Yes, it was surprising. It was surprising because it made no sense (like most of TNA's 'surprises'). AJ was the longest reigning champion in the companies history, and that run could have/should have provided an excellent backdrop for a great feud with his eventual usurper. That formula may be predictable, but it works. It builds stars, increases ratings, and sells ppv's. Blowing off that potential for the sake of surprising a few jaded IWC fans seems like a waste to me. In addition, if TNA has now established that RVD can beat AJ easily when he's worn out, why would anyone (who expects a semi-coherent or consistent storyline) be interested in seeing a rematch when RVD is 100%?

Just to clarify for those drinking the TNA kool-aid; I have zero problem with RVD winning the title. I just think the payoff would have been bigger if they had simply waited until the next live taping for this match. They could have advertised it and drawn more viewers. They could have given RVD and AJ the chance to cut a promo or two together and therefore made AJ's upset actually mean something. And they could have avoided making AJ look like such a chump by losing to an exhausted wrestler who's only been in the company for a few months.

Don't get me wrong; I'm happy to see RVD as a world champion again. But I'm not so desperate for an alternative to the WWE or so blindly loyal to TNA to pretend that this move made any sense to me.

ok first off you say they showed that he can beat aj easily after so many matches in the past coulpe nights? no thats not true you must not have been watching the same match as me because that was a hard match for rvd he was getting his ass kicked the whole time aj had an error and rvd capitalized by landing a frog splash in a spur of the moment jolt and it payed off.
I think it would have been a great match going either way but i am exstatic to have seen rvd win it. all that has caused is questions of whats gonna happen next pop in my head and make me excited to watch next week that is something that wwe has not done for me in years.
i think there is one thing everyone can agree on and that is tna put on a damn good show tonight better than any raw this year and if your not down with that i got two words for you............... NEW CHAMP..........

 

[theundisputedY2D2]

I'm chuffed that RVD is the TNA World champion, as always there's a bunch of pros & cons you can take from this situation but at the moment I'm leaning towards looking at this as a positive move.


I just hope that TNA have a long term plan with this move because right now it reeks of them just doing the title switch because of RAW is Smackdown last night. Almost as if they were reading about the RAW crew being stuck in Europe and were like:

"Shiiiit! The RAW guys are all stuck in Turdhampton, England. They won't make the show tonight! Aw dammit! HHH is still gonna be there though, and he's the biggest draw of all time!"

"Whatcha gonna do, brother?"

"Fuck it! We'll make Rob Van Dam the World Champion!"

 

[King Blitzkonic]

How do I put this delicately...RVD as champion is BULLSHIT! Don't get me wrong, I like his in-ring work but he just waltzes right in and within a couple months is the champion. I shouldn't be too surprised though....but the fact remains that a lot of talent that's made their name in TNA are getting crapped on, and this just reinforces it.

 

[Pulsar]

I would have certainly loved to see Pope win the title last night, but its not as if it was a situation where if he didnt win he was going to be lost in the shuffle (like seems to be happening to poor Kofi over in WWE).

RVD as champ is a good choice, besides the fact that he is over with the current TNA fans, he is also a recognizable name to the newcomers "crossing the line". And based on the rumors going around about Hardys condition in and out of the ring, he's a much safer choice to put the belt on at this point. He and AJ can have an excellent feud.

 

[Caitiff]

that was a great moment that we got to see on free television! you can thank eric bischoff for that title change..he is THE man. Overall the show was fantastic and it destroyed anything the wwe had to offer in return.

I'll agree with that. But, let's be honest for a second. WWE was so hamstrung by a natural disaster that they really couldn't offer anything in return this week. I foresee a pretty good rating for the Thursday replay of Impact, since I don't think many people saw the live show.

Hopefully, this will solidify something that seems to be a theme around here. TNA can be really good, when they shut the hell up and actually wrestle. Remember when WCW used to have "Shut up and wrestle" as a tagline. TNA should do that. It would work a ton better than "Cross the line."

Now, for the bad part. Since when did RVD ever use red and yellow to represent himself? Oh, that's right. A title victory for RVD was actually a victory for Hulk Hogan. Because, Bischoff forbid that a babyface wrestler do anything well without being on Hogan's (name of body part deleted). Frankly, as much as I want to get all warm and fuzzy about RVD winning the title, I can't. This is just another way that TNA is going to gloat about the "power of Hulkamania." Great work, TNA. Playing off a concept that outstayed its welcome with your competition 15 years ago. FFS, please, let the wrestlers actually wrestle. Your show's better that way, and this week proved it.

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

I think they pushed this ahead of time. I think they had this scenario planned out for Sacrifice when they heard that Raw's roster was stuck in Europe. But never mind that RVD is champion. Interesting scenario. Out of the 3 main faces that comapny has van dam is the best choice. I would have liked them to have pulled the trigger and given the title to The Pope Sunday night but between Abyss, Van Dam & Hardy, RVD is the logical choice. Abyss' work as of late has been poor both in and out of the ring and Hardy has TNA officials worried so RVD is the logical choice. I would have liked AJ to have held the title for a little longer but it'll be interesting to see where this goes. This situation kind of reminds me of The Foley/Rock scenario from WWF in 99 with the corprate/heel champion (Rock/AJ) losing in a big build up on the show to the face (Foley/RVD) with a big post match celebration. That's not a negative thing just a little comparison. I don't see RVD holding the belt for too long however.