Night Of Champions LD Possibly Featuring The Winds Of Change.

YES! Show wins! Also known as my fantasy team gets points.

And Show should have won. End this feud, let Show and Punk move onto something else. If Punk won, then the feud would continue.
 
How can you not buy the sleeper as a finisher? It's a good, believable, straight forward submission. Looks better than his other finisher.
 
I've gotten in arguments with people over whether Ziggler is credible or not. Their biggest argument is the sleeper sucks as a finisher so they don't buy it. That's the exent of their argument. "Hogan used a legdrop." "Well Hogan was over so it was ok."
This is what we get for having finishers and other moves.

Really, more matches should end with something other than a finisher.
 
I've gotten in arguments with people over whether Ziggler is credible or not. Their biggest argument is the sleeper sucks as a finisher so they don't buy it. That's the exent of their argument. "Hogan used a legdrop." "Well Hogan was over so it was ok."

Did you explain to him how Hogan was a massive 300 lb man and him jumping up in the air and dropping his leg on someones throat after beating them down for a whole match makes perfect sense as a realistic finisher?
 
This is what we get for having finishers and other moves.

Really, more matches should end with something other than a finisher.

Amen. Ziggler having two finishers helps him a lot. Makes things less predictable. I'd love to have Orton win with the DDT or the backbreak or something like that. Wanted more variety in endings for years.
 
IMO Ziggler should do Sleeper and the zigzag First wear them out with sleeper then hit them with ZigZag
 
Did you explain to him how Hogan was a massive 300 lb man and him jumping up in the air and dropping his leg on someones throat after beating them down for a whole match makes perfect sense as a realistic finisher?

Then there's that whole "wrestling is fake" thing.
 
Did you explain to him how Hogan was a massive 300 lb man and him jumping up in the air and dropping his leg on someones throat after beating them down for a whole match makes perfect sense as a realistic finisher?

Close. I say it's HULK HOGAN dropping the leg. It's like when Flair uses the figure four or Steamboat uses the cross body. It's RICKY STEAMBOAT using the damn move, thereby making it awesome. At some point it was a new move. Give him some damn time.
 

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