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Money In The Bank 2014 General Discussion & Aftermath

A second ladder match has been confirmed so there will be a briefcase match this year. I'm psyched for it and hopefully it will appease those who don't like the style of those in the title match. They can finally have the spotfest they so deserve. Something for everyone.

Hoping RVD gets in the second match because he cans still go in this type of match and has won it before. Ziggler would be an excellent choice as well.
 
Am I the only person who thinks two MitB matches it too much of a good thing? It just seems anti-climactic to have two of them. What's wrong with having a match between Rollins and Ambrose on the undercard where they can shine individually?
 
Am I the only person who thinks two MitB matches it too much of a good thing? It just seems anti-climactic to have two of them. What's wrong with having a match between Rollins and Ambrose on the undercard where they can shine individually?

Because there's another PPV before Summerslam.
 
He always takes a weird looking overprotected lame looking bump in these kinds of matches, what do you think he'll do next sunday?

I think he'll take a super man punch off the 3rd rung of the ladder and that'll be it.
 
If that happens Cena will make it look shitty. The guy can't sell for shit. That's why his bumps look weird. My guess, Bray throws the stairs at him while he's reaching for the belts.
 
Cena will fall off the top of the ladder to the floor through some tables, pop up a couple of minutes later and grab the titles. Count on it.
 
Sorry guys, but Cena is probably one of the best sellers in the game today. His ability to make anyone look extremely powerful, even in a loss for them, is unparalleled.

Also, since I want and predict Cena to win the MitB title match, I think TheICChampion is closest.
 
I don't get why everyone hates on john cena so much. I mean he's not my favorite wrestler, he is corny at times and he's not the best in the ring but he obviously has some ability if he has been the head guy in wwe for this long. I mean not liking somebody is one thing but to just keep talking crap makes you look stupid and jealous because everyone saying he can't take bumps and so on, I don't see you in the ring doing anything. And it's a money in the bank ladder match so obviously everybody is going to take bumps. I'm not trying to act like a jerk just stating my opinion like everyone else. Oh and btw I'm not a john cena fan or a little kid but obviously he has somethin and loves the business to be in it for that long. I just wish they would change his character
 
Sorry for thinking Cena was a bad at taking bumps, didn't expect to run into overly sensitive types in wrestlezone. This is wrestlezone right? not wrestlingforum?
Everyone says he can't take bumps is because he can't take bumps. He's awful.

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Sorry for thinking Cena was a bad at taking bumps, didn't expect to run into overly sensitive types in wrestlezone. This is wrestlezone right? not wrestlingforum?
Everyone says he can't take bumps is because he can't take bumps. He's awful.

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I am fairly sure I could find a youtube video of Kurt Angle taking a poor bump, probably Chris Jericho too. Cena hating is deemed cool, but it aint. Cena is one of the best in the business and Bret Hart, Chris Jericho and many more have gone on record and said so.

As for the Title match - I do not think Cena will win it. I am pretty certain that he is primed for a feud with Rusev after this event.

I make Cesaro the early favourite. Heyman will turn on him and Lesnar will win the gold.
 
I am fairly sure I could find a youtube video of Kurt Angle taking a poor bump, probably Chris Jericho too. Cena hating is deemed cool, but it aint. Cena is one of the best in the business and Bret Hart, Chris Jericho and many more have gone on record and said so.

As for the Title match - I do not think Cena will win it. I am pretty certain that he is primed for a feud with Rusev after this event.

I make Cesaro the early favourite. Heyman will turn on him and Lesnar will win the gold.

Jericho, Hart, Stone Cold, The Rock, pretty much anyone that's considered a legend agrees that Cena is the cream of the crop.

That said, I think it's important that a face wins the title at MitB. With the power that the authority has, it's imperative that right now a face is holding the titles through the summer. DB can have his shot again when he's back and healthy, but as it stands, someone with Cena's ability to shoulder the responsibility has to hold the belts.
 
Jericho, Hart, Stone Cold, The Rock, pretty much anyone that's considered a legend agrees that Cena is the cream of the crop.

That said, I think it's important that a face wins the title at MitB. With the power that the authority has, it's imperative that right now a face is holding the titles through the summer. DB can have his shot again when he's back and healthy, but as it stands, someone with Cena's ability to shoulder the responsibility has to hold the belts.

Whoever wins the belt will surely be in the interim champion though? Daniel Bryan will be back soon and the Brock Lesnar rumors will not go away.

WWE could play the safe option and give it to Cena. I wouldn't really have a problem with that. I had a vision of Roman Reigns winning the gold then Triple H screwing him and Seth Rollins 'cashing in'. The other alternative is Cesaro winning it and having Brock Lesnar challenge him. The last alternative is Bray Wyatt who I feel has done enough in the last 12 months to warrant the belt. He has been great in his feuds with Bryan, Shield and Cena.

I have no problem with a heel holding the belt.
 
Whoever wins the belt will surely be in the interim champion though? Daniel Bryan will be back soon and the Brock Lesnar rumors will not go away.

WWE could play the safe option and give it to Cena. I wouldn't really have a problem with that. I had a vision of Roman Reigns winning the gold then Triple H screwing him and Seth Rollins 'cashing in'. The other alternative is Cesaro winning it and having Brock Lesnar challenge him. The last alternative is Bray Wyatt who I feel has done enough in the last 12 months to warrant the belt. He has been great in his feuds with Bryan, Shield and Cena.

I have no problem with a heel holding the belt.

Yeah, ultimately, I think that the winner is the placeholder until Bryan returns, and then they can basically reboot his title reign.

Here's the idea that I like with the briefcase AND the belts being held in the MitB style matches: You can have a same night cash in.

I have stated a few times around here that I'd LOVE to see the winner of the case cash in after the title match and the winner of the WWEWHC is beat up. You could use Rollins to win case in the middle of the show, have a big face like Cena win the belt in the Main Event, and then have Rollins cash in that night and take the belts. You can have HHH run in and quick count with a ref shirt on, there are unlimited chances there. Then, you leave the show with a face winning, a heel has the belts, and the Authority/HHH back on the top again. You take Cena out of the title picture, because now he's pissed at HHH. You get HHH fighting someone like Cena, which allows all of the young talent to fight each other at later PPVs. It really opens up some stories.

I say Cena to be the transitional champ like that because his legacy takes no negatives from that scenario. He doesn't lose face by winning and dropping. His legacy is established, and it wouldn't do any good to have a young talent be transitional like that.
 
Just to point out that WWE Experience here in the UK on Sunday showed a graphic of the MITB competitors and they showed Sheamus, Cesaro, Del Rio, Orton, Wyatt and THREE shadows suggesting that there will be eight participants. Reigns and Cena filled two last night so I wouldn't be surprised to see another one. Haven't watched last nights Raw so do not know if seven was the final number?

I feel vindicated in this post because Kane has been added! Like I said, the graphic showed 8 participants so there was always going to be one more.

Kane had to be added because he had a title shot!
 
From betwrestling.com

The opening lines are in for Sunday's PPV and provide insight into WWE Money in the Bank results for some of the matches. These odds are provided where you can go place your wagers from now up to the beginning of the specific matches. That's right, bets will be taken while the PPV is actually happening provided the match in question hasn't yet begun.

John Cena, as speculated is the favorite to win the 8 man ladder match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. Currently he is the -230 meaning wagering $230 will bring home $100 for a John Cena victory. This line has already moved from -170 and is expected to move further by Sunday. As for the other competitors in the match (Roman Reigns, Kane, Sheamus, Alberto Del Rio, Bray Wyatt, Cesaro and Randy Orton ), you can bet that any of them will win at +170. This means that betting $100 will win $170 provided Cena loses. This is largely based on the "leaked" Summerslam poster, which isn't much of a leak due to the fact that WWE provided it to Amazon.com.

The Money in the Bank contract match favors Seth Rollins by -390, a line which was originally -170. Anyone else winning that match is +170 at this point. The Wyatts are currently at -475, previously -380, so they are heavily favored. The Uso are at +325. Paige is -1500 from -1700, so she's a heavy favorite again this month while Naomi is at +700. Lines are constantly changing so register for the latest lines.
 
Odds on Fake Wrestling TM are fools golds for the bookies... but on this occasion WWE HAS to go out of left field...

Imagine Cena does win, the backlash could be horrific for them, they can't bank on Lesnar then Bryan... the one thing the last year proves is that people don't want the same old... reality is if it's Bryan or Wyatt or outside Cesaro, they DO NOT want Cena or Orton or Kane... An outcome along those lines would piss more people off and a betting man would see this...unless they are betting that WWE is now all about steadying the ship...

Likewise for the 2nd match... there are/were 3 contenders.... one is injured apparently, but that actually raises his odds... The only way Rollins/Ambrose works is if they take each other out... in the match as it stands there is no one else who can realistically then take advantage other than Barrett.. he's hurt, but as long as he can physically climb the ladder and grab the case he can win... The clue was in HHH's impression, how he "loves doing this" he put Barrett over to the nth degree in that promo without anyone realising... Odds will now change cos he's hurt but a smart "punter" puts their money on him cos he literally doesn't have to do anything in the match, just grab the case.

Odds for wrestling is for the birds, I'd never bet on it in the same way I wouldn't bet on the Oscars... it's a political situation masquerading as a legit betting opportunity. Those who bet on wrestling bet to lose as form doesn't matter, it's all on the whim of one man... You may as well bet directly against Vince...and guess what.. The House always wins...
 
I dont really understand how this works exactly, which is why i hate line betting, but your telling me i can basically choose cena or the field. 230 for 100 (whatever the exact odds are i'm not sure) doesn't seem worth it, even worse is that an upset victory will only pay out at a $1.70
 
What if at WWE MITB Brock Lesnar returns and take the belts himself.Imagine this Cesaro tells Paul to stay in the back due to what happened last year with Punk. Roman Reigns is on the top of the ladder with John Cena,Cesaro,Randy Orton.Triple H comes out of nowhere and hits him in the back with the sledgehammer and pedigrees him.John Cena knocks down Orton and Cesaro.We then here Brock Lesnar's music and John Cena walks to him and get's F-5'ed.Cesaro gets up and tells Brock to back off and get's F-5'ed,Brock throws him out the ring and F-5's him on the steel post,and then F-5's him over the announce table.He get's back in the ring and F-5's John Cena again and grabs the titles.


Why attack both Cena and Cesaro?The point is to take out Cesaro and save that feud for WrestleMania.Meanwhile Lesnar heads to feud with Cena at Summerslam.

What will be the title match at Battleground? There wouldn't be one.Instead it would be John Cena vs Kane in a #1 contenders match,while Roman deals with The Authority and battles Randy Orton for the chance to face Triple H at Summerslam.

The Next night on Raw have Heyman bloat about Brock's accomplishments this year.Cesaro interrupts but can barely walks and is on crutches and Brock runs over and clothesline him and F-5s him at the minitron.John Cena makes the save but get's taken down.Kane's pyro hits ...He gets on the mic stating "he wants revenge for his brother." This wouldn't be a face turn.But it could make Kane seem like he could actually win the match.Triple H comes out before Kane can do anything and sets the match for Battleground as John Cena vs Kane in a #1 contenders match for Summerslam.Roman comes out and attacks Triple H and stares down Brock Lesnar.

Battleground John Cena def. Kane

Summerslam Brock Lesnar def. John Cena

NOCJohn Cena def. Brock Lesnar.

Raw-Cesaro returns and interrupt Brock and Paul and attacks Brock and then gets his hands on Paul but gets an F-5.

The Next Week-Cesaro calls out Brock Lesnar for WrestleMania.

Paul tells Cesaro no constantly.

RR Cesaro is in the final 4 and Brocks music hits and he appears on stage with Paul Heyman.They say you can get Brock at WrestleMania all you have to do is leave the RR match.Cesaro say's "no." Seth Rollins take advantage of the situation and throws Cesaro over the top rope.Cesaro looks at him pissed.Brock goes to ambush Cesaro but he ducks and hit neutralizer.The Final 3 is Seth,Dean,Roman and Dean and Roman takes out Seth and the final two is Dean and Roman and Roman wins.
 
NO swerve at MITB and how a Brock title reign could work....

Cena wins MitB type Ladder Match, barely beating Roman Reigns to the belts.

Orton demands his rematch. Reigns demands his chance at the title, since he was so close to getting it.

Orton v. Cena v. Reigns at Battleground. Cena wins.

Lesnar v. Cena at Summerslam. Lesnar wins.

Bryan v. Lesnar at NoC. Bryan wins. The WWE Universe is happy.
 
I don't think John Cena is going to keep the title very long, the Authority will somehow have Seth Rollins cash in his briefcase and win the title. I know he has a feud going with Dean Ambrose but that doesn't mean that he can't feud w/Ambrose holding the titles. I've pretty much had it with Triple H and Stephanie acting like dictators and making sure certain matches work out for their side. I used to really think Triple H was a cool dude but since he's taken over the WWE operations I feel he's really become Vince McMahon II (a total ass).
 
Usos VS Wyatts
This match was much better than I thought it would be, but The Wyatts should have won! It did a good job of setting the pace for the rest of the show though.

Paige VS Naomi
About what I expected. Paige retaining was the right choice. I hope she gets a better challenger next time though, Summer or Emma would be great.

Adam Rose VS Sandow
I hate it when they do this. Why can't they advertise matches ahead of time? They may not be particularly far up on the card but still.... it's so frustrating when a match is added at the last minute. Sandow's random constantly changing "gimmicks" is equally frustrating, but that's a whole other topic. Not the worst of the night.

Money In the Bank briefcase
This was excellent. 2nd best match of the night. Kane helping Seth win was kind of stupid but it made his comment from earlier make more sense. He had a Plan B and he still won. Looking forward to seeing his feud with Dean intensify now. I thought he would cash in tonight.... Maybe he will hold it until Wrestlemania? No one's cashed in there yet.

Goldust & Stardust VS Rybaxel
The right guys won here. Nothing special, but it didn't suck either.

Rusev VS Big E
Boring. I went into it knowing I wouldn't care about it whatsoever. I ended up going to the fridge for another slice of pizza.

Layla VS Summer
Genuinely shocked that Summer did not win. Maybe it means she is done dealing with Fandango and will get into the Divas Championship scene instead. She should have gotten the title shot at this show, not Naomi.

World Heavyweight Championship Ladder match
Awesome. Best match of the night! I'm fine with John Cena winning this. I'm sure that there will be people complaining though. On a positive note, it's a match of the year candidate. Now Cena is one step closer to breaking Flair's record. 2 more titles to go! The show ended on a good note despite there not being the Seth cash-in that I expected.


Overall Thoughts
Good show. I would have changed a few of the results though. The Wyatts should be Tag Team Champions right now and Summer should have defeated Layla. I'm alright with most everything else even though Cena as the World Champion is nothing new. I would say it's my second favorite show of the year so far. The two ladder matches were incredible and overall I found it to be quite enjoyable.

1. Wrestlemania 30
2. Money In the Bank 2014
3. Extreme Rules 2014
4. Payback 2014
5. Elimination Chamber 2014
6. Royal Rumble 2014
 
Usos v. Wyatt's:

Great opener. Some fun spots. I believed in Rowan after all this time, I thought he looked great in this match.

Paige v. Naomi
I assume there's a thing with the funkadactyls breaking up? Who knows? Boring match, I didn't care.

Adam Rose v. Sandow
What? Rose getting a ppv paycheck is pathetic. There is plenty of actual talent NOT getting a payday. He's terrible, they are shitting in Sandow's mouth. Its hard to watch this shit.

Money In The Bank
Damn. This was the best match of the night for me, and in the top 3 for the year so far. Swagger super impressed me. Dolph super impressed me. Kofi and rvd were great. But goddamn does the WWE have something with Rollins and Ambrose... I liked the swerve even. And the two or three spots Rollins took or the few spots Ambrose took, or even RVD. Damn. What a good match.

Dusts v. Rybaxle
Um, decent. Cody needs to learn how to set his spots better, sometimes he looks as bad as Sin Cara when he's prepping his opponent. Otherwise, decent comedown match.

Big E. V. Rusev:
Garbage like I assumed. Looks like Big E. might have hurt Rusev internally... Who knows... It was 2 lumbering buffoons lumbering around each other.

Layla v. Summer
My contender for Didn't Give A Shit match of the night. I'm glad it was fairly quick.

WWEWHC Ladder Match.
Wow. Also great. Randy getting a hard way made the match seem dirtier, which was good. I'm then first to admit when I'm wrong...I'm usually completely against blood in matches...but it really set the tempo.

Some fun spots, Reigns came out of this match the real winner. Cena is always a safe go to champ until its reset time.

Overall, very happy with the ppv. The mitb match lived up to the ppv name. The usos v wyatts match set the tempo perfectly. Well done ppv.
 
i didn't watch, not too happy with the results but I'm pretty sure it's just because it was predictable. Not saying that's bad but I was really hoping WWE had some massive stunt planned but sadly they didn't, if they did this would've been the time to do it.

Cena winning was obvious, I'm pretty sure we all tried to think it wouldn't happen but it did.
Rollins winning, again obvious. Just like Cena it was a 2 person match, either Cena or Orton and either Rollins or Ambrose.
Usos retaining was a bit shocking but I agreed with the decision being as we need some serious prestige built so...
Dusts winning obvious, it was a job match on PPV
The divas matches I'm pretty sure we all agreed, were weak
Rusev doesn't appeal to me, the foreign super/ultra heavyweight thing hasn't interested me since Umaga.
And Sandow is now a jobber, so again obvious.
Granted, all of this is basically a set up for SummerSlam so I guess it can be forgiven.
 
It was a good show, but I feel it struggled with topping itself. The first tag team match (Uso's Vs Wyatt's) was shockingly exceptional, whereas the second tag team match (Rhodes brothers Vs Rybaxel) was merely meh.

I also thought the first Money in the Bank match was vastly superior to more star studded second MitB match. Don't get me wrong, the World Champ one was good, but the normal MitB match was exceptional.

I didn't like Rusev Vs Big E, whereas I actually thought their first clash was underrated. This one went on longer, but was sluggishly paced and only draw a reaction from the crowd when Big E did the spear through the ropes.
 

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