why would hardy turn heel only to disappear a few weeks later? ya know when his trial starts up........ya remember for the herion that he was busted with in his house......ya wake up smell the coffee, its chris jericho, an why would he come to tna after dissing it? well some of you may not remember but Jericho talked mad shit about the wwe while in wcw an ecw soooooooo where'd he end up? that's right folks HE made the jump to wwe from wcw, mark my words its Y2J an when "BREAK THE WALLS DOWN!" hits at BFG remember to rep me.....
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Dead-Angel
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well again Im telling you its not Y2J, there are reports he will be on tour in October with hes band Fozzy, and if its him which I doubt, TNA are fucking ******s one guy wont bring the ratings up thats been proven like to many times problem is TNA dont realize it
wrestlemaniaxxx
TNA Aficionado
The binary code 101010 = 42. What the number 42 has to do with Chris Jericho?
Hmmm... 42. Maybe something to do with Four-two-ne.
Or maybe, 4 guys backed by 2 powerful people like Janice and Bob?
Something to think about!
Zeven_Zion
King Of The Ring
The binary code 101010 = 42. What the number 42 has to do with Chris Jericho?
Hmmm... 42. Maybe something to do with Four-two-ne.
Or maybe, 4 guys backed by 2 powerful people like Janice and Bob?
Something to think about!
42 is the number of times Jericho will Codebreak "TheFOUR" for being such a dumbass.
It cannot and will not be Jericho. Get it through your thick skull! Jericho can't take over TNA, hell, he can't even go toe to toe with Kazarian in the ring, as far as I'm concerned. The last time Jericho was entertaining and watchable was some GOOD 9-10 years ago. I'm glad he's gone from WWE and on second though, I don't want him anywhere near TNA if he's going to do what he does in WWE. Same damn promo for two straight years. Hyporcites this, troglodytes that. For a guy who's considered charismatic and has talent out of his pores, he doesn't seem to be able to come up with something original every now and then.
It's Sponge Bob and Janice from Friends. Oh...my....god!
realdealasshole
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I'm under the impression that someone else will be with them, but I feel that right now, Eric and Dixie have been shown to have some dissension. With that said, I was thinking that may just be a work to get us thinking that these two HAVE to be on opposite ends.
I think it's a very good general consensus that one of the ring leaders of the company will be turning heel. That being, Hogan or Bischoff. But not many have even considered for a second that it could be Dixie. That got me thinking, what better way to get heat than for a boss who's considered by many to be "a total mark" to mark out to Bischoff and team up against Hogan and crush him?
It would be a total transformation, and in my opinion, one that would really piss people off and get genuine heat, if the southern bell and very nice Dixie Carter suddenly transformed into the proverbial evil bitch teamed with Bischoff and a team of heels to crush the ultimate baby face Hulk Hogan and his team of faces.
I think it's a very good general consensus that one of the ring leaders of the company will be turning heel. That being, Hogan or Bischoff. But not many have even considered for a second that it could be Dixie. That got me thinking, what better way to get heat than for a boss who's considered by many to be "a total mark" to mark out to Bischoff and team up against Hogan and crush him?
It would be a total transformation, and in my opinion, one that would really piss people off and get genuine heat, if the southern bell and very nice Dixie Carter suddenly transformed into the proverbial evil bitch teamed with Bischoff and a team of heels to crush the ultimate baby face Hulk Hogan and his team of faces.
There was a similar thread last week that discussed this idea. I am sorry but your little late on this idea. However This would be a horrible idea since she has no credibility. They dont need a heel owner/gm. they need a product and wrestlers that create good storylines. This means a good writing staff.
I've thought about them teaming up with alot of different companies, but what if it was ROH. They have their own weekly show on HDTV. They constantly have ROH wrestler's wrestle on Impact.
Maybe this whole Eric Bischoff & Jim Cornette is a work to throw everyone off.
The last I had heard was Cornette and Dixie split on good term's. Why would Cornette burn that bridge? I know it's Cornette, but what if they did merge on 10\10\10, and TNA would pick up another wrestling show on monday's on HDTV...
I think it would be a killer idea.. I mean Chris Daniels is there, and half their roster has wrestled for TNA or been apart of it in some capacity..
So does anyone else think this is something Viable, or would like to see it.
If it were to happen they would have more of a creative, and Cornette could go back to being a GM on Impact which I actually enjoyed when he was on..
Maybe this whole Eric Bischoff & Jim Cornette is a work to throw everyone off.
The last I had heard was Cornette and Dixie split on good term's. Why would Cornette burn that bridge? I know it's Cornette, but what if they did merge on 10\10\10, and TNA would pick up another wrestling show on monday's on HDTV...
I think it would be a killer idea.. I mean Chris Daniels is there, and half their roster has wrestled for TNA or been apart of it in some capacity..
So does anyone else think this is something Viable, or would like to see it.
If it were to happen they would have more of a creative, and Cornette could go back to being a GM on Impact which I actually enjoyed when he was on..
Trill Co$by
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Nigel and the bucks have signed to TNA already and the TNA stars in ROH are simply previously released... Plus, why would ROH risk giving up everything that they stand for only to have a name...
Simply put, ROH would not be up for it and neither would the ROH fan base.
Simply put, ROH would not be up for it and neither would the ROH fan base.
I don't completely agree with that statement. I think some of the ROH fanbase would love the idea, but the possibility of this actually happening is very slim.
TNA's wrestlers are mostly WWE rejects and ROH guys anyway. And half of the ROH roster is guys who were released from TNA. So merging together would essentially be like resigning all the people you previously released.
I think TNA and ROH are on good terms anyway, because they sort of swap wrestlers from time to time, so a merger wouldn't make much sense in my opinion.
I don't think Dixie has the chops on the mic to generate heel heat for too long, maybe a few weeks. But then the story would just fizzle away and everyone would forget about it... IMO.
Without a doubt someone is going to go heel. Having dixie do it would be a good idea if she could pull it off, but the TNA writers aren't good enough to think of something like that.
Without a doubt someone is going to go heel. Having dixie do it would be a good idea if she could pull it off, but the TNA writers aren't good enough to think of something like that.
Its funny cuz I was just thinking about Janice and Bob, and where I had heard the names before and why I associated them with TNA. But I get it now! TNA made a huge blunder by saying the names together, totally gave it away.
This could be very good for the company though, and possibly give it what it needs to be a serious competitor with WWE.
This could be very good for the company though, and possibly give it what it needs to be a serious competitor with WWE.
So that would pay off the internet fans, and the rest of the audience would go "huh? Who are these guys, and why should I care?" In theory, this is supposed to be a payoff for people who have been watching TNA all year. Some payoff. Most wrestling fans couldn't identify Austin Aries or Roderick Strong walking by on the street.
In other words, wrong. Makes no sense for ROH to publicly tie themselves to TNA currently, and TNA stands nothing to gain from such a storyline.
In other words, wrong. Makes no sense for ROH to publicly tie themselves to TNA currently, and TNA stands nothing to gain from such a storyline.
wrestlemaniaxxx
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OMG. Here we go again. Why people keep saying this BS. TNA only sign guys that are free to work with the company. If a company like WWE release a wrestler, that wrestler becomes a free agent. If they are good, what's the problem in hiring them?
Most of these "rejects", which they are not, have come to TNA not because WWE doesn't want them... but because they DON'T WANT TO WORK FOR WWE.
Angle came to TNA because he was tired of Vince BS. WWE also tried to keep Jeff Hardy and Hardy ended up in TNA.
Monty Brown, Christian and Ron Killings were all in TNA... and WWE signed them later. Does that means that the WWE hires TNA "rejects"? NOOOOOOOO!!! I know Christian was in the WWE before... but SO WHAT!!!
I'm pretty sure that if guys like RVD, HARDY or ANGLE decide to go back to WWE, you guys will be like AWESOME... nice pick by the WWE. Good to see great guys in the roster!!!
If guys like BATISTA, JERICHO, CARLITO or BENJAMIN re-sign with the WWE, you guys go like NICE! These guys are loyal. They deserve a push! BUT if they come to TNA... you go like: See, TNA is full of REJECTS... blah!
I remember a year ago, people were saying things like: HOGAN TO TNA?!? That will never happen. Hogan will never go to that "shitty" company. JEFF HARDY TO TNA?!? Hardy will never go back to TNA. RVD TO TNA?!? RVD will never go to TNA!!! Uh? BISCHOFF TO TNA? Impossible!!! He hates Russo. They will NEVER work together. But now that they are all in TNA, they SUCK and they are REJECTS!!!
Anyway, my point is that I hate when people keep saying stupid things like TNA SUCKS, TNA BOOKING SUCKS, or TNA WRESTLERS ARE WWE REJECTS... blah blah blah... just because you don't like the product or simply because they cannot stand the success TNA has... they prefer the PG version of WWE, blinding fans and make them believe the WWE is cool and awesome.
I dislike a lot of things from the WWE... but I'll keep it to myself. Why bother complaining about a product, when Vince is gonna do whatever he pleases to do?
The contrary can be said of TNA. TNA cares and they listen to the fans. Yes, they make mistakes... and sometimes they don't even make sense... but that's how wrestling is.
So please, if you don't have anything positive to say about something... then don't say anything at all.
wrestlemaniaxxx
TNA Aficionado
You AGAIN?!? Geez... leave TNA alone!!!
So WWE writers ARE BETTER?!? Are we talking about the same guys that had a FAKE Rosie O'Donnell fighting with a FAKE Donald Trump? The same guys that "killed" Vince McMahon in a car explosion? The same guys that decided to have a virtual GM for RAW? Etc...
Oh... I forgot!!! ITs because of Russo. I got it!!! URGGGGHHH!!! So tired of this BS from people. If you don't like it, then let others enjoy it. Don't spoil our fun!
OMG, here we go again. Argumentive fallacies, pounding down in order:
1) Just because someone thinks TNA is awful to watch doesn't mean they're enthralled by the PG version of WWE. There is plenty of ground to think that one is pathetic pandering and another is just boring.
2) Please don't lecture people about TNA's success when their ratings are down from last year, despite a large infusion of cash and talent.
3) You don't need to emphasize every fourth word with caps lock.
4) If you do feel the need to emphasize every fourth word, there are other ways to make it look more varied (and less like you are SHOUTING FOR ATTENTION), like italics, boldface, and underline.
5) TNA booking does suck. Their top two feuds consist of a) two stables that found their success in other organizations, one in the 70's and one in the 90's, and b) the 'anonymous influence' storyline, which is lazy writing at its finest.
6) I wanted to like TNA, because I wanted the professional wrestling world to have viable competition. If I am displeased with the product, the internet allows me to express that, as much of an echo chamber as I'm talking into. I liked last year's product, which is why I am particularly disappointed in TNA. "If you don't have anything nice to say" applies to grade school and people's mothers, not medium sized corporations.
7) If the WWE had any reason to change, they would, but as they have no competition right now, they have no pressure to change.
Jack-Hammer
YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!!
This is exceptionally unlikely for the simple fact that it would be extremely difficult, probably outright impossible, for this to be kept quiet. No matter how much any of the TNA or ROH brass ordered, somebody would immediately pick up a cell phone or go to a pay phone or something and put in a call to Dave Meltzer or someone and spill the beans. It would be someone that works in the office with Dixie or someone backstage that caught the tail end of a conversation between Dixie and Vince Russo or Dixie's secretary would tell someone she knew and that someone would pass it on, etc. because this would be pretty big news to anyone that uses the internet to keep up with what's going on in wrestling.
There would also have to be so much corporate stuff hammered out between management of both companies that there's no way that stuff wouldn't leak out, even if they're not publicly traded companies. Bob Carter, Dixie's old man, owns more than 70% of TNA and that means he's ultimately going to have the final say when it comes to merging a company that he mostly owns with a company that he doesn't. Jeff Jarrett would also be involved in such discussions as well as he owns the remaining portion of TNA.
IF TNA and ROH were going through with a merger and managed to keep it secret for all this time, then I'd definitely have to take my hat off to them because they'd definitely would make me eat crow. Would it ultimately change the face of wrestling? Sure, in the minds of a lot of internet fans but you have to remember that there are tons of people out there that probably have no clue of who or what ROH is.
There would also have to be so much corporate stuff hammered out between management of both companies that there's no way that stuff wouldn't leak out, even if they're not publicly traded companies. Bob Carter, Dixie's old man, owns more than 70% of TNA and that means he's ultimately going to have the final say when it comes to merging a company that he mostly owns with a company that he doesn't. Jeff Jarrett would also be involved in such discussions as well as he owns the remaining portion of TNA.
IF TNA and ROH were going through with a merger and managed to keep it secret for all this time, then I'd definitely have to take my hat off to them because they'd definitely would make me eat crow. Would it ultimately change the face of wrestling? Sure, in the minds of a lot of internet fans but you have to remember that there are tons of people out there that probably have no clue of who or what ROH is.
My guess is Hogan turns heel and forms NWO with Bischoff, Abyss, Samoa Joe, Pope, Mr. Anderson, Sting & Kevin Nash.
It all makes sense too.
Hogan, Bischoff & Dixie are in a power struggle.
Abyss, well that's obvious.
Pope just turned heel and joined forces with Sting & Nash.
Sting & Nash have been rambling on about TNA stars having no respect or w/e, for months now.
Mr. Anderson is faking his face status, so to put off Jeff & Kurt, NWO will help Anderson win the title at BFG.
Samoa Joe use to brag about a "Nation Of Violence". The initials almost make up NWO but for legal reasons they're not allowed to say "NWO" in TNA. NWO were violent, so I sense Joe turning heel on Jarrett for the group.
They'll recruit more members in time or just to make the group look big when they reveal themselves at BFG, they'll probs bring some oldies back like Beefcake, Nasty Boyz etc. at Bound For Glory with them.
It all makes sense too.
Hogan, Bischoff & Dixie are in a power struggle.
Abyss, well that's obvious.
Pope just turned heel and joined forces with Sting & Nash.
Sting & Nash have been rambling on about TNA stars having no respect or w/e, for months now.
Mr. Anderson is faking his face status, so to put off Jeff & Kurt, NWO will help Anderson win the title at BFG.
Samoa Joe use to brag about a "Nation Of Violence". The initials almost make up NWO but for legal reasons they're not allowed to say "NWO" in TNA. NWO were violent, so I sense Joe turning heel on Jarrett for the group.
They'll recruit more members in time or just to make the group look big when they reveal themselves at BFG, they'll probs bring some oldies back like Beefcake, Nasty Boyz etc. at Bound For Glory with them.
wrestlemaniaxxx
TNA Aficionado
On tonight's Impact, Nash and Pope gave another hint. The hint was Tessmacher!
When the name came up, Pope said: "You know?". Then Sting said: "What do you think we've been fighting all this time".
Ms Tessmacher?!?
Interesting!!! A couple of weeks ago, I wrote:
"Somebody remembers Impact on 07.15.2010? Miss Tessmacher, personal assistant to Eric Bischoff, was on the phone with someone. The person on the other end of the phone mustve been being difficult because after hanging up she says that when shes in charge, that person will be the first to go."
So does anyone have any idea on how Ms Tessmacher fits in all this deception?
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When the name came up, Pope said: "You know?". Then Sting said: "What do you think we've been fighting all this time".
Ms Tessmacher?!?
Interesting!!! A couple of weeks ago, I wrote:
"Somebody remembers Impact on 07.15.2010? Miss Tessmacher, personal assistant to Eric Bischoff, was on the phone with someone. The person on the other end of the phone mustve been being difficult because after hanging up she says that when shes in charge, that person will be the first to go."
So does anyone have any idea on how Ms Tessmacher fits in all this deception?
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The Best At What I Do
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Great catch there by the way. I actually saw your original post and immediately dismissed it because that was a full two months ago and I never expected TNA to think so far ahead. Now this worries me because how lame would it be if Tessmacher was the one trying to take control all along. She's nothing but eye candy. Major disappointment right there.
I wonder if TNA is gonna do a stable with Nash, Sting Abyss, Pope and Tessmacher as the eye candy? Tna is actually good at forming stables from what we have seen they just cant keep them relevant. Abyss, Sting and Nash all have a past with one another and the Pope can be the young one looking for a mentor.
Spicytunahandroll
Dark Match Winner
So I guess Sting, Nash and Pope know what the "deception" is and that Miss Tessmacher knows what is going on and by default Bischoff would know because she is his assistant. It has to be something that Sting and Nash would both fight for and now Pope would want to fight for as well.
So from what I gather it would be something that Hogan, Bishoff and Maybe Dixie are doing that is getting Sting, Nash and Pope afraid for the future of TNA and themselves.
Maybe it is this "change" Dixie is talking about, Sting and Nash got a look at what is going down and they don't like the direction it is going and Pope once he figured out that Miss Tessmacher meant something it looked as if he figured out what was going on as well.
All I can say is this storyline has me utterly confused as to who is who and what is what and I LOVE IT. It is so well done as NO one is being able to figure out what is going on or what direction they are going. Even if the payoff bombs, the build has been amazing.
Sorry I didn't have much to add but I can't even fathom a guess as to what would have brought these three guys together to fight for a cause, and ruffle their feathers up to this point.
So from what I gather it would be something that Hogan, Bishoff and Maybe Dixie are doing that is getting Sting, Nash and Pope afraid for the future of TNA and themselves.
Maybe it is this "change" Dixie is talking about, Sting and Nash got a look at what is going down and they don't like the direction it is going and Pope once he figured out that Miss Tessmacher meant something it looked as if he figured out what was going on as well.
All I can say is this storyline has me utterly confused as to who is who and what is what and I LOVE IT. It is so well done as NO one is being able to figure out what is going on or what direction they are going. Even if the payoff bombs, the build has been amazing.
Sorry I didn't have much to add but I can't even fathom a guess as to what would have brought these three guys together to fight for a cause, and ruffle their feathers up to this point.
Any chance it's Shane McMahon? Last I heard he was trying to get involved w UFC but nothing came of it. It'd be like Sr vs Jr on American Choppers, but in wrestling. I'm a thinker so everyone posting ideas is good and TNA has the internet guessing so that's a def plus for them on this one.
amyshpyrate
Dark Match Jobber
she knows that hogan, bischoff, and what will be others are involved.... we will over time learn who else is evil... they better not go overboard like nwo did..... but every once in awhile another evil one would do.....
Remember last weeks iMPACT guys? Pope went to talk to Bischoff and he wasnt there so Pope made an appointment with not Bischoff but Tessmacher. I think thats where they were alluding to. That "meeting" Pope had with her after Last weeks iMPACT. Either Pope got some info from her or he WILL get some info out of her sooner or later.
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