**Merged** R Truth Heel Turn (Keep it all in here!)

[realbrutha]

Well played, sir.

R.Truth can play a sick as hell bad guy. watch his old TNA heel runs if you don't believe me.

I tried to tell this to the haters. They just wanna hate on the guy when hes never been given a chance to do anything but be a jobber. Tell me why did he only hold the U.S title for a week, and been losing to garbage ass talent. I feel sorry for Awesome kong. I hope she sees how the wwe have treated MVP, Rtruth, Shelton, and Elijah Burke. I really hope they dont waste this girls time and career.

 

[Xemmy]

I like it. I think this will lead to R-Truth getting a little mid-card gold around his waste, and I'm very interested to see him play heel.

The idea that the WWE was promoting smoking is, as I'm sure many have already stated, ******ed. The bad guy was smoking, not the good guy. Kids weren't looking up to R-truth after he beat the crap out of John Morrison. The entire idea was blown out of proportion, and it really is just another example of people being desperate to shake their finger at something.

 

[realbrutha]

I like it. I think this will lead to R-Truth getting a little mid-card gold around his waste, and I'm very interested to see him play heel.

The idea that the WWE was promoting smoking is, as I'm sure many have already stated, ******ed. The bad guy was smoking, not the good guy. Kids weren't looking up to R-truth after he beat the crap out of John Morrison. The entire idea was blown out of proportion, and it really is just another example of people being desperate to shake their finger at something.

Heres some old footage of him as a heel. Tell me what you think

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[Minecrafted]

Ok after watching the above vid i'm really sure that the WWE isnt using him to his full potential. The stuff he said actually made me laugh but no way in hell he can talk like that on a pg show, and in the same playlist he showed some really good in-ring skills against raven.

 

[realbrutha]

Ok after watching the above vid i'm really sure that the WWE isnt using him to his full potential. The stuff he said actually made me laugh but no way in hell he can talk like that on a pg show, and in the same playlist he showed some really good in-ring skills against raven.

Yeah the guy has always been pretty good at insulting the fans. He usually doesnt curse that much though and yes. The WWE hasnt been using him to his full potential. Man they were making him lose to the same guys like 4 times in a row during his jobber streak.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

He's been in the WWE for three years and hasn't had a memorable match yet. This is just like Henry turning face two years ago. Nice little turn but nothing much after. We'll see how good he can play a heel which I don't have much confidence in.

 

[realbrutha]

He's been in the WWE for three years and hasn't had a memorable match yet. This is just like Henry turning face two years ago. Nice little turn but nothing much after. We'll see how good he can play a heel which I don't have much confidence in.

Well just maybe thats has a little something to do with him losing nearly all of his matches. Which isnt his fault. Thats all on the WWE and creative.

 

[Minecrafted]

Which isnt his fault. Thats all on the WWE and creative.

So true, if he was supposed to win a match he woould have won 1, and i'm sure he has enough in ring talent to contend with most of the big names out there. Its just another sad case of WWE misusing talent. Oh and just for the lulz i noticed that this section is called World Wrestling Entertainment xD didn't they change the name to just WWE? Someone should change the forum section 2

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Well just maybe thats has a little something to do with him losing nearly all of his matches. Which isnt his fault. Thats all on the WWE and creative.

You can have a memorable match and still lose. Austin's most remembered match is WM 13 which he lost. You can't blame creative for everything. The best I see him doing is a midcard reign and that's all.

 

[Minecrafted]

Yes but that was a mania match and you can't really compare R-Truth to Stone Cold. Not yet at least. I think that he should start winning some matches and hold a small title for a while. Maybe hold the Us Title for more than 1 week. A hell R-truth takes it from a face Seamus wouldn't be that bad an idea. Even if he doesn't become a main eventer sometime soon i'm sure he could still be a memorable superstar. In fact many old superstars still mentioned today have never held titles so thats not so bad.

 

[Burnout]

R-truth's heel turn was really needed on his behalf. He had become stale and uninteresting to watch. He is dodgy on the mic, and he's sufficient in the ring. A heel turn is just what he needs to try become of proper relevance in the WWE. The new younger stars are pushing on, and R-truth couldn't match them, but with a heel turn, he can turn recent times around. His turn was actually really refreshing to watch and was done perfectly by WWE. It was given a great amount of time, and really made R-truth look interesting. The smoke bit added to the segment. I'm interested to see where R-truth can go though, he can either float or sink, and I'm not sure what he is going to do. I'll be watching developments of the heel turn with interest.

 

[Kofi/ZigglerClassic]

Every year we always get treated to a good entertaining or vicious heel stable. Last year was Nexus and the previous years were Legacy. I was thinking since R Truth has snapped and was deprived out of his chance to be in a main event title match and may never be in one now, have him create a vicious heel stable: The Outcasts. A stable of undercarders who never make it to the top and target only those who are main eventers and main event. John Cena, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Undertaker, HHH, The Rock, The Miz, CM Punk, Jericho, Christian, Del Rio, Morrison: would all be the targets. Every time one of them is about to have a match on a show or a lesser pay per view The Outcasts put them out of commission. They would never attack an undercarder but try to turn them to their side.

Here's the stable:

The Leader- R Truth
Yoshi Tatsu
Evan Bourne
Chris Masters
Trent Barretta
Zack Ryder
Chavo Guerrero

 

[go_patriots11]

Although I Like Tatsu and Masters, I Feel WWE has used the guy totally wrong btw. I couldn't see this working because, Masters and Guerrero have jobbed for far too long. seeing them get clean wins over Orton, Taker HHH Rock, etc would totally kill it for me. Unless you had them ALWAYS travelling as a faction and just going around beating up guys, but in singles competion, I coundn't see them ever beating top guys.
Maybe it's because I just hate R-Truth, but I would like to see something done with Tatsu by himself, and I'm in the same boat with Bourne. Baretta I'm still undecided

 

[Dagger Dias]

Not sure if I like the idea of this stable. None of them are guys that could be taken seriously other than Truth. Yoshi and Bourne are better as faces. Trent and Chavo are jobbers. Zack Ryder would be better off without this stable getting pushed as a result of his online interactions with fans recently. Truth as a heel would work better without this stable. They would not have the impact of Nexus because Nexus came out of nowhere and they made their presence known during their Raw debut whereas all of the people in this stable are jobbers or guys that already have been around long enough to not be taken seriously.

 

[The Crazman]

As nice as it would be to see some of those guys getting more TV time I don't think anyone could buy them as a formidable group. I'm also not so sure Truth has the mic skills to really lead a stable, he's not exactly Orton or Punk. I think if they did create a stable like that it'd be one that only really functioned in the mid-card, sort of like the Right to Censor. It just wouldn't be credible enough to be involved in the main event.

 

[SunnyD]

R-Truth has a tag team title shot with Johnny Curtis, doesn't he?

I'll be honest, I'd much rather see a Nation of Domination-like faction, revolving around him, Tarver, and Otunga. You have a lot of names you could throw in there. Darren Young, Zeke, JTG, Kofi, etc. I've seen a lot of negativity regarding that kind of faction, but I think it'd work and be refreshing. Johnny Curtis could be the Owen Hart of the group too, if they wanted to go that route.

 

[baken1942]

R-Truth has a tag team title shot with Johnny Curtis, doesn't he?

I'll be honest, I'd much rather see a Nation of Domination-like faction, revolving around him, Tarver, and Otunga. You have a lot of names you could throw in there. Darren Young, Zeke, JTG, Kofi, etc. I've seen a lot of negativity regarding that kind of faction, but I think it'd work and be refreshing. Johnny Curtis could be the Owen Hart of the group too, if they wanted to go that route.

Totally off topic here for a second but in my SvR game, I have a Nation of Domination stable with R-Truth, Zeke, Cryme Tyme and Mark Henry.

But it could work. Zeke could get tired of Barrett and the Corre, Otunga could use the excuse of always being mistreated by CM Punk's nexus and Wade Barrett in the original Nexus. Mark Henry was in the original N.O.D. and R-Truth can use this heel turn to start it up as to how he was always screwed over and wants revenge

 

[NegativeFeedback]

A NoD-like stable could work. You could call it AAA, the African American Anarchy...

R-Truth, Ezekiel Jackson, Mark Henry and David Otunga. Truth is the ruthless leader, Zeke and Henry are his big henchmen and Otunga is the smartass big mouth who uses the stable to his advantage. Maybe you can add Byron Saxton too.

Anyway, The Outcasts wouldn't work well unless they ALL get huge pushes and are booked like a ruthless force. If they don't, they'll fall flat like the Nexus.

 

[brainsuks1234]

As soon as you put Yoshi Tatsu in that I find this thread a joke. I would leave out Yoshi and leave the rest. What would make this group awesome is if they all smoke on thier way to the ring.

 

[berlinbrawler]

I have had my share of stables for the time being. I hope the Nexus and the Corre both get dissolved in the course of the draft. After that I would welcome a break from stables.

This particular group wouldn't get too far, I fear. They wouldn't get the push the Nexus initially got when that is what would be needed to truly kickstart this angle. No one is buying anyone in that group as a threat. Some maybe someday, but right now none of them got that rep. Before long they would lose handicap matches against the Big Show.

 

[IvanBarrera531]

I'd rather not see any more stables for the time being, honestly. Also, the line-up you have there is very odd. The guys would have no common ground other that they all compete on Superstars and lose very often. This wouldn't work, and the crowd would be dead for whatever they do. Let Truth be a heel on his own, I'm sure he'll be decent, if not good.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I'm not all that hot about this idea. Generally speaking, none of those guys listed have been a big deal in WWE thus far and it mostly goes against the grain of how the WWE builds heels.

The WWE isn't really a company that does a lot with factions. Nexus & The Corre have been the two most relevant factions in the WWE really since the days of The Corporation & Ministry of Darkness. Nexus made a massive impact initially with its debut and attack on John Cena but it quickly became apparent that the only real star in the stable, at least at this time, was Wade Barrett. Barrett carried the original Nexus during its entire tenure and kept it relevant. For the most part, it's been the same with The Corre.

There are far too many jobbers involved in this potential stable that simply nobody really cares about. Sure some of them have some talent but they're not remotely relevant beyond what they currently are. I think Zack Ryder would be better served if a push were given to him in which a storyline is written around his online activities and the support he's gotten online. Evan Bourne would be best served if he went to SmackDown!. I don't think anyone can ever take Chavo Guerrero seriously again, not after all that crap with Hornswoggle still bogging him down.

Truth has a better shot of success on his own. I have a feeling the WWE is going to go the route of a disgruntled & bitter veteran that feels he's been cheated out of opportunities his entire career for one reason or another.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

I think it would be more likely that the bulk of that 'stable' will be feuding with the dreaded 'Future Endeavoured' list than any of the ME guys you mentioned.

Just because Truth is going through a character change does not mean he should suddenly get a stable.

I keep seeing this kind of suggestion so much now as soon as someone has a good week or two. Really getting tiresome.

 

[therealchosenone]

R-Truth has a tag team title shot with Johnny Curtis, doesn't he?

I'll be honest, I'd much rather see a Nation of Domination-like faction, revolving around him, Tarver, and Otunga. You have a lot of names you could throw in there. Darren Young, Zeke, JTG, Kofi, etc. I've seen a lot of negativity regarding that kind of faction, but I think it'd work and be refreshing. Johnny Curtis could be the Owen Hart of the group too, if they wanted to go that route.

I kinda like this idea, but I also think that R-Truth is not a big enough name to pull this off by him self. But since The Rock is just waiting around till 'Mania, why not have him (Rock) reform the Nation of Domination with Truth being his right hand man.

They could also bring in guys like Mark Henry (he was in the original), JTG, and other up and coming black superstars. This, if done right, could bring back a good heel stable and a nice bit of nostalgia for older viewers.

 

[SunnyD]

I kinda like this idea, but I also think that R-Truth is not a big enough name to pull this off by him self. But since The Rock is just waiting around till 'Mania, why not have him (Rock) reform the Nation of Domination with Truth being his right hand man.

They could also bring in guys like Mark Henry (he was in the original), JTG, and other up and coming black superstars. This, if done right, could bring back a good heel stable and a nice bit of nostalgia for older viewers.

Problem with that is Rock is a face, and seeing him turn into a heel is much harder said than done. Truth can smoke all the cigs he wants, but if he's coming out with the Rock, expect some cheers on his behalf. He's also likely not coming back on a weekly basis.

The possibilities are wide open, but I'm thinking something like Truth and Otunga could be the main mouthpieces, get Zeke and Truth to go after the singles titles, and put Tarver and Xavier Woods perhaps in the tag division? The Usos are available too. If Booker wants to lace up the boots again, put him in the group. You don't want all of the black wrestlers to be heel, because clearly, that's racist. Kofi and Henry can stay face.

If you want Miz or Punk to turn face, a group like this could be the reason. A Nexus like gang bang on the Miz could work out. I'm just brainstorming, I'd enjoy to see this.