*MERGED* [OFFICIAL] WWE Title Unification/Possible Brand Unification Discussion

[ctln4rko]

OWNED! Miz is the most voted for! Why? BECAUSE HE"S AWESOME! AAWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEE!
His mic skills, best in the company, in the ring, could improve, but he is awesome, and opportunistic. thank you, threadheads, for electing miz as the mot likely man to hold the unified title. he is my favorite wrestler.

 

[Navi]

For reasons that others have stated I think the Miz should get the belt. He's the only one in the middle of a massive push, plus he's holding the MITB suitcase.

Let's break them down.

Undertaker - He feuding with Kane right now, and he doesn't need another title belt. What he has to worry about is keeping the streak alive. I believe that he will retire after Mania, so giving him the unified belt would be silly as he wouldn't hold it for very long.

John Cena - Is in he middle of the Nexus angle and I don't see the belt coming into that scenario. Sure maybe sometime in the future but to put the angle and the belt together, would be combining their two biggest storylines on RAW right now. Keep them separate for the time being.

HHH - He's been out on the campaign trail for a few months now and to have him come back at the eleventh hour, waltz in and take the belt would be ridiculous. I just can't see it happening. Some fans might love it, but it would be a sham.

Randy Orton - Is a possible candidate for a future title run. I love Orton, but he's boring most times. Plus he's holding a title right now. I think the new belt should have someone who's never held one.

Edge - Another possible for a future run. But with the recent switch to Smackdown he has to get some into some meaningful feud under his belt (no pun intended).

Jericho - Is the only one I can see other than the Miz for the first shot at the unified title. His only problem is that he's close to retirement and if they're going to unify the belt's then the first title holder should be in it for the long run.

Sheamus - His first title run was a disaster and the second wasn't really that much better. I just can't see him getting the belt again so soon.

Punk - He's foundering around right now and hasn't done much lately. The SES storyline was a failure so to speak, and he's just been traded. He has also been out of the main event picture for awhile now. If he want's a run at the title later, then fine.

Big Show - He's more of a comedy character now than he is a viable choice. I can see him getting a run if he does a heel turn, but presently, no.

The Miz - Like I said at the beginning of my post, he's the only wrestler that would really benefit from winning the belt. Vince has from all intents picked him to be the future of the WWE, he's holding the MITB, and this would cement him into the main event picture.

I only hope that if they do unify the titles, they give the wrestlers a longer run with them. Lately the belt's seem to change hands every time the wind changes direction. The Champ should be seen as the Champ and defend it against all comers. That's what they did in the old days and the belt was a prestigious thing to have. Let's hope it can turn around to be like it used to.

 

[Malenko316]

Have some people posted after not watching WWE since the last unification?

Edge, Jericho and Taker have 0% chance given the likelihood of them having less than 18 months left with the company (if we even see Jericho again). Besides, The unification would only happen at WM and given VKM is a Calloway boot liker, the streak stays intact, so that doesn't mesh with unification and retirement.

Cena might win, screw over a favourite like Orton and complete the heel turn. Again, if Cena turns at or before WM, he won't face Taker because Taker stays undefeated and management is low to let Cena, Orton or Taker loose clean for fear of hurting their image.

Orton: 2nd favourite IMO. Obvious this face push is not going to run out before WM, so if is there is unfication match, (and I don't see Orton dropping the title, clean anyway), and he's in it, the likelihood is he won't loose the match at least. Which is why it will be a triple threat IMO.

Miz, Morrison, Seamus, Mysterio: All up and comers, up all too green to hold such an honor. The Miz is far to limited in the ring and is not ME yet. Morrison sucks on the mic and is also not ME at present. Mysterio is deserving but policy towards non heavy weights isnt going to change anytime soon. Seamus, if he was better on the mic and American (or atleast listed as a la HHH) might have a chance, if only because of his link to HHH.

HHH: Without doubt the most likely. It might be for all the wrong reasons (being a VKM grand child generator) but consider: HHH it seems is getting happier outside of the ring and thus is unlikely to surpass Flair for world titles - the only way to compensate is to do something even Flair hasn't managed, become the unified champ. And besides, after missing out on the unified title the first time, does anyone seriously think he'd let it happen again now he has the influence to crown himself?

So HHH (WHC - seems logical if SD is going to get the boost to equality) vs Orton (WWE) vs Cena (RR winner) at WM, winner HHH and then beats Miz trying to Cash in MitB (sorry but even wwe writers ain't lazy enough to continue the MitB Champions streak).

 

[willywonka8822]

correct me if im wrong but miz still has a while after wrestlemania to cash in his money in the bank

Maybe Miz rather than holding the WWE championship going into wrestlemania cash in his MITB AT wrestlemania

Truly it would be AWESOME

 

[Aaronliveshere]

IF he's sticking around, and not taking a long time off, I have to go with Chris Jericho. What better way to bring back "The best at what he does" than to hold the unified titles. He talked for years (and still does) about beating out The Rock and Stone Cold for the title the first time. I can see him going up against any 2 superstars of your choice and have him win again in a triple threat format. Example, how much would he brag if he beat the Undertaker and John Cena (just an example) for the title.

 

[Dyce Morgan]

I would like to see the undertaker unite the titles, i mean the guy has been there longer than anyone, has the respect of both locker rooms as well as the fans, always puts on a great show, has always been about the business and quite honestly we dont kno how much longer he'll be wrestling. My point is he has both earned and deserves the right to be the superstar to next unify the titles.

Now to all the miz marks out there who apparently dont watch wrestling but instead just listen to promos and think thats all you need to be relevant, im sorry but your dead wrong the only thing that having the miz unifiy the titles will do is devalue the titles themselves....."I'm awesome!" is not enough of a reason just to slap the titles on a guy, i understand that they may be looking to have one of the young guys unify the titles and if that is the case then there are still 5 or 6 young guys on the roster that i would put ahead of the miz as far as credibility.....Wade Barret has been far better than the miz since his arrival and would be more believable as an undisputed champion just to name one

I know the hate is about to come rainning down cuz ive cut on the awesome one but so be it i think he is completely ovverated....i will say that i respect his work ethic and his enthusiasm for the business....but he is nowhere near ready to be an undisputed champion

 

[Montague]

If you ask me the winner of the World WWE Title should be a superstar who has not yet made his mark, someone that will use this to make there career like Y2J did

it should be someone like Miz or Morrison or even Barrett
Not someone like Orton, Cena, or HHH

 

[mustafa33]

intresting but no established champion should be the undisputed champ.

the person who can brag about it all his career like Y2J does that person should be Undisputed champ.

1)MIZ
2)C.M Punk
3)Christian
4)MVP
5)Ted Debiase
6)Drew Mcintire "THE CHOSEN ONE"
7)Shemaus
8)Wade Barret

Top 4 are best choices but bottom three should be the choices to defeat taker at WM if not defeat atleast Draw in match like last man standing or double countout or draw cage match or double pin or submission counter pin many ways,as this draw happen lights closes thunder fire etc stuff happens and both taker and his opponent dissapears

 

[#hamler]

intresting but no established champion should be the undisputed champ.

the person who can brag about it all his career like Y2J does that person should be Undisputed champ.

1)MIZ
2)C.M Punk
3)Christian
4)MVP
5)Ted Debiase
6)Drew Mcintire "THE CHOSEN ONE"
7)Shemaus
8)Wade Barret

Top 4 are best choices but bottom three should be the choices to defeat taker at WM if not defeat atleast Draw in match like last man standing or double countout or draw cage match or double pin or submission counter pin many ways,as this draw happen lights closes thunder fire etc stuff happens and both taker and his opponent dissapears

Wow, facepalm...
Miz is not ready at all to lead RAW with the WWE Championship, let alone the WWE with the unified WWE and World Championships. Everyones saying they want Miz to win because Jericho won it earlier in his career. So remember Jack Swagger's reign? They thought he'd get over just by giving him the Championship. What do you think will happen with the Miz? They need to take their time with Miz and don't ruin him. He's not ready to headline Wrestlemania or Lead the WWE with both Championships.
CM Punk-Ok, I agree. He desrves it.
Christain-No, he does desrve it, but he's a mid card champion at best. He won't main event 'Mania or Unify the titles.
MVP-haha, no. Just no.
Ted- what the hell? Did you seriously just throw a bunch of names down? This guy isn't even championship material as of yet. He's tooooo green. He'll get his shot, in 5 or 6 years.
Drew McIntyre-face 'Taker at 'Mania? No. Drew is a great wrestler but what a bore would the match be? The chosen one is just a gimmick...there's no way he'll face Undertaker at Wrestlemania..
Sheamus-ok. I agree, he should face Taker. That would be interesting.
Wade Barrett-its still a little early. To unify both titles or face taker at mania.

It has to be CM Punk, Chris Jericho or Cena. Chris Jericho did it first, it only makes sense to add this accomplishment onto his already great resume. Cena, would do wonders for his carerr. He's already the face of the WWE, adding this will make sure he stays that way. CMPunk, I think he deserves it. Do I see the WWE giving both titles to him? No, but I do wish think he deserves thos more than anyone in the WWE right now.

 

[Power & Glory]

Only 5 ppl voted Triple H before me LOL. Ofc Triple H... Miz has so many votes it so made me rofl. It's not about how YOU want to be next unified champ but who you think will actually be one. Get real. Triple H 100 % because he wants that accolade I'm pretty sure of that and what Triple H wants, Vince gives... and no, i don't like Triple H.

 

[Radical Canadian Goose]

I personally think that the reunification needs a tourney similar to the first one... At the Rumble have both champs get "injured" . Then start the tourney a couple weeks later... setting up for Taker/Sheamus at Mania in the finals. Sheamus with the victory. So he is the first unified champ... but that lasts 3 minutes as Miz cashes in the briefcase at the grandest stage of them all. Also, I was going to pick Wade Barrett but I didn't see him on the poll, I may have missed it though

 

[Morpheus101]

I think it has to be Chris Jericho. He unified the titles in 2001 and I think it'd be cool if he did it once again, even if it were 10 years later. Many of us are screaming for Jericho to be champion again. He's been putting people over for far too long and he is probably the most consistently entertaining, charismatic performer in WWE right now.

I'd also like to see Jericho have a REAL feud with Randy Orton for the title, ending in the unification match.

I honestly believe that all titles will be unified within 2 years and that the roster split will come to an end. WWE don't have enough top stars to carry 2 brands with 2 separate rosters. When Undertaker, Kane, HHH and Edge (and even Jericho) retire, this is going to be even more of a problem.

 

[Cleavo77]

Cena is the only one who can pull it off. Hands down. I dont care if you hate him, he is the only one that can pull off something this huge. I don't think they should unify the titles in the first place, but if they do, Cena is the only choice. Undertaker doesn't need it, he's got the streak. HHH can't have it because he's to close to the company. The Miz isn't ready. Orton is out of place for it, he is a good champion, but shouldn't be the first. Sheamus is a joke and barely fits in the WWE at all. Cena is the only one who has held multiple championships, proved himself worthy, and would send the best message. He has given his life for this business and deserves to be the TRUE face of this company.

 

[dansaun77]

Chris Jericho will be the Unified Champion when they unify the belts. I t makes pefect booking sense, it would be 10 years sincehe last unified the 2 World Titles, he is currently off screen, so when he returns(more than likely to win the 2011 Royal Rumble), he will get an automatic shot at the Unified Titles, without holding a belt going in, like when he unified in 2001, he won the WCW Title from Rock ,then WWE Title from Austin. Jericho has been the most consistent and quite frankly, the best on the roster since his return. His whole arrogant obnoxious attitude will be telling everybody who cares to listen that he will unify the belts again as the only person to do it twice. And we know when the time comes, he wil have absolutely no problem whatsoever in putting over whomever Vince decides will be the future Unified Champion. The Miz wont be cashing in before Mania, unless he goes to Smackdown, but personaly I think your Mania Main event will be Randy Orton(WWE Champion) vs Chris Jericho(Rumble Winner)vs??????(World Champion). Guessing, with WWE wanting to make Smackdown the No.1.Brand, Triple H returning to Smackdown and winning the belt off Kane. There is no chance of Kane being in the title mix, and Undertaker vs Cena should be a lock in this year.

 

[DMac84]

Wow. Thx for all the replies to the post. I didnt really think this was that hot of an issue.

I personally think they should unify the titles. I hate having all these championships, they dont mean anything. Plus, I really want the reunification of both rosters too.

But anyway, I think reunification of titles is a good thing. No one really cares about the WHC. Its the WCW Title and meh, who cares anymore. Sure it has a history and legacy that cannot be forgotten, but this is the WWE. WWE won the war and bought WCW. Time to merge the belts into one Unified WWE Championship and be done with it.

Also, Sorry for not thinking about adding Barrett or Del Rio or Mysterio to the poll, but I really didnt think that they could win it so early.

 

[Navi]

intresting but no established champion should be the undisputed champ.

the person who can brag about it all his career like Y2J does that person should be Undisputed champ.

1)MIZ
2)C.M Punk
3)Christian
4)MVP
5)Ted Debiase
6)Drew Mcintire "THE CHOSEN ONE"
7)Shemaus
8)Wade Barret

Top 4 are best choices but bottom three should be the choices to defeat taker at WM if not defeat atleast Draw in match like last man standing or double countout or draw cage match or double pin or submission counter pin many ways,as this draw happen lights closes thunder fire etc stuff happens and both taker and his opponent dissapears

Wow are you kidding? Most of the people on your list haven't even achieved main even status.

1) Miz

Yea definitely. He's in the middle of a push and this would be a perfect way to cap it off.

2)C.M Punk

Just got traded back to RAW and still have to get involved in a decent feud. He's done nothing since the SES storyline folded.

3)Christian

Again he's been on the back burner and really haven't heard much out of him. If he's going to do anything, then he has to get involved in a major feud now.

4)MVP

Another guy you don't hear much about. The only time I seen him lately is if he's been involved in a multi-man match. He's done nothing special to speak of.

5)Ted Debiase

This just made me laugh. Dibiase is the most useless man on the roster right now. He had to be carried by Cody Rhodes and now Maryse. If he ever won a title, I think I would quit watching wrestling

6)Drew Mcintire "THE CHOSEN ONE"

You must mean "THE BORING ONE". I have a new name for him Drew CrapIntrye. Another wrestler that shouldn't be anywhere near a championship title.

7)Shemaus

Sheamus could do it, but he's had two title runs in the last year alone. I think he'll be away from the belt for awhile at least.

8)Wade Barret

Barrett is involved with the Cena angle. If Cena gets into the title picture then I could see Barrett involved too. But like I said before, there is two major storylines here and it could or couldn't be the perfect way to combine them. I just don't think Barrett has been around long enough. Maybe in a couple of years.

 

[ForeverRKO]

I believe they're going to unify the I.c. title and u.s. title next ppv because they're pushing dolph ziggler and Daniel bryan ! I'm sure after this unification they're going to unify the wwe title and the whc title ..

 

[Hawkeye]

I don't think that's the case at all. It was probably a positively received match at the PPV last night and they wanted to give fans a free show,coupled with CM Punk's random appearance I think it's opening the doorway to a Punk/Bryan rivalry. I say rivalry not feud because it seems as though Punk has dropped his "holier than thou" persona and now comes out and "tells it like it is" much to the delight of the audience. This most likely won't lead to a unification of the mid card titles,in any case.

 

[PhD]

Agree with Rox, this is clearly building towards a Punk/Bryan program. It's interesting because DB's veganism and whitebread lifestyle would be completely compatable with Punk's straight-edge stuff. Punk definitely isn't turning face again after putting out Evan Bourne, so it'll be interesting to see how this ends up playing out; perhaps Punk tells Bryan it's straight edge or nothing? Or maybe, as you note, they're changing his gimmick.

 

[Malenko316]

I don't see a unification here because without a title on both brands, there would be even less room to push midcarders. Management as loath to push many non maineventers without titles, the exceptions being lately Del Rio.

Ziggler vs Bryan was one of the best matches i've seen in the wwe for years, and really surprised me about Ziggler. We all know how good Bryan is and I'm pleased he is being allowed to show it off - it does set up what could be a very memorable series with Punk, who is perhaps the only person currently on the books who could hang with Bryan for ring craft (maybe Kaval, but poor guy is being burried more than Taker!). I hope management lets both guys work matches like they can and not get caught up with stupid finishes. NB: Bryan actually worked a 'Straight edge holier than thou' persona during a heel turn in ROH, so he could carry it off if it went that way.

Back to point, unification only happens to either give someone a huge push, a la Jericho, or when there is a void of talent in that division, i.e. Tag teams and womens divisions. The only beneficial way I could think for it to work, is for it to leave space for a re-vamped cruiser/L.Heavy weight title and then make a rule that the benefit of holding a sub level title is that it allows you to move between brands. I don't think that works with the major HW title because of the crowd of people who would be involved and because the champion is also the standard barer for the brand.

 

[Dzone]

Unification can really only happen if both brands are in one Super-show or it would really damage the other brands mid-card (or even main event) credibility. Why does everyone think Daniel Bryan will win... maybe have him fued without the belts and give Ziggler both the belts and then someone off RAW or SD! can win one of the two belts off Ziggler (Del Rio? Alex Riley? Member of Nexus *ideally Gabriel??* theres loads). Then have a solid fued with DB and Punk that ISN'T about getting a belt, it's just about something or other like I dunno ... anything...

 

[JBK2008]

The Bryan/ Ziggler match was fantastic Sunday night! Anyone who missed it truly missed a hell of a match. I don't think the mid card titles will be unified, but I could see a rematch occuring at the Survivor Series PPV. Now it'll suck because the titles won't be on the line, but seeing these two put on another wrestling clinic will more than make up for it. Depending on how this feud plays out or lasts, I see Dolph getting revenge and getting the win at Survivor Series.

There's no point of unifing the U.S and I.C titles just yet. For one, the brands aren't backtogether (yet). Second, the tag and womens/divas titles were unified because there weren't enough "teams" and women to go around both brands seperately and finally third, the mid card wrestlers need these two titles since it seems the main event is all clogged up at the moment. So no, there won't be a unification anytime soon I hope.

 

[Judah's Lion]

i'm not sure in which direction "this" is going. by "this" i mean the WWE in general. there have been rumors of the brands merging and having two shows, as it once was. so there wouldn't be two brands with two rosters, but rather one big brand with one big roster. that way, if the titles were unified, the champ could go to both shows because there would be no split and he would obviously be a part of the roster for both.

i'm more of a fan of the one brand and one roster thing. i liked the split at first because it really gave some guys opportunities that may not have happened otherwise. i could be wrong, but watching old pay per views on DVD, it certainly appears that some guys only got pushed once they moved from one brand to the other or were paired off from someone that they hadn't faced before because of the split, etc.

but here lately, i've found the WWE to be a bit stale. i'm a life long fan and will follow as much wrestling as i can till the day i die and will support as much wrestling as i can in as many ways as i can. just trying to say that i like the stuff. but i'm not an idiot either. i know, it might be a bit of an oxymoron to love wrestling and not be an idiot, but whatever. i like my wrestling. i just wish that it was improved. i wish a lot of things in life were improved, but this is a wrestling forum and so i'll focus on wrestling.

if the brands merged and the titles merged and the rosters merged, i think we could see some great matches that otherwise we might not see. one thing i was really looking forward to was Edge vs Miz or Edge vs Punk. now that Edge and Punk have switched places, we can't see either. but if there was a merge, we could see both.

all that to say, i sure do hope that they merge everything, if even gradually. i don't really care which guy gets the IC/US Title unification, Bryan or Ziggler, because if the titles were merged, i'm pretty sure i'd enjoy watching either defend the belts with some good feuds and programs going.

it would make sense to merge these belts at Survivor Series. i think that they were merged there once before, by Edge, during the Alliance. it may not have been at the Series, but i thought it was. regardless, since the belts have been merged once before, there's already some history and story there. that could be used to push the unification of these belts again, if that is the choice the WWE makes. but i, for one, would be happy if unifying was that direction.

 

[Navi]

I don't see the two title being unified any time soon. If they unified the WWE and WHC title, and then US and IC title, then that leaves a lot of wrestlers fighting for two titles. That would be just plain stupid.

The US and IC titles should remain on their respective brands and give the guys in the mid card a chance to win something, and maybe step up to the main event.

Unless they end the brand split I can't see it being done. There would be no benefit to the WWE for them to do so.

 

[RkoMachine]

So recently there has been alot of talk about the titles possibly being unified at Wrestlemania 27. But alot of us have different views on who the champs will be going into mania.

Alot of you have said Undertaker as world champ and Cena as WWE champ BUT there is a chance taker wont even make it to mania because of injury and even if he does make it he could be facing Lesnar and that wont (and shouldnt be) to unify the titles

So here is a list of candidates who could reasonably be champ

WWE CHAMP
Orton
HHH
Sheamus
The Miz (probably not but its possible)
Cena
Wade Barret
Jericho
Cm Punk (see Miz)

World Champ
Big Show
Kane
Edge
Rey Mysterio
Jack Swagger (see miz and Cm Punk)
Taker (if hes back)


So if i left anyone out that should be on these lists im sorry it is 5am


Here is what i would love to see

WWE Champ Randy Orton vs World Champ Edge
These 2 have had some great matches in the past and their feud earlier this year was cut short because of Orton's minor injury, i think these 2 could have an epic match easily worthy of the main event of mania

So what do u guys think? who will the champs be?