*MERGED* Title Unification Discussion Thread

[Dave]

To me, this really is a no-contest.

The IC Championship is one of the most storied Championships in professional wrestling and although the Unites States Championship is an older Championship too, I firmly believe that the IC title is the more historic one. For that reason, it would make sense to keep it around longer than the US Championship.

Not only that, I have been a WWE fan for the better part of a decade and the Intercontinental Championship has always been part of the brickwork that makes the WWE what it is. I will always remember people like Chris Jericho holding it and having great matches with Chris Benoit at Royal Rumble 2001. For me, that is what makes the Intercontinental Championship that much better than the Unites States Championship. Plus, it dates all the way back in the WWE and wasn't taken from WCW when the WWE bought it.

If the WWE ever had to make this decision, I don't think it would be a close one.

 

[Charlton Chester Chimp]

No time like the present to unify some titles and highlight their prestige. What about wm26, the mecca of entertainment, the big poppa of them all. Hows about a super match, lets say, the world champ and wwe champ and ic champ versus u.s, i.c and tagteam champs in a winner takes all match, this would essentially move the titles from 6 holders, down to 3 in one fell swoop. After the match the 3 winners could face off in a triple threat, with the winner becoming the ULTIMITE WWE CHAMP holding all the belts in the company, then a new super belt could be created, representing the overall champ, who would then wrestle on raw, sd and nxt, as well as on a returning ecw

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[FoleyIsGod]

If i remember rightly, they did unify the i'c title with the World Heavyweight championship back in 2002 (kane vs Triple H).

And the undisputed title never really got off the ground after the original brand split, with too many champions in too little time, similar to what drove the legacy of the WCW down the toilet in the dying days of that company.

As for the NXT defences, it would be best to leave NXT as a ground for newer talent to get exposed. I personally would prefer them to scrap it and show FCW matches, but thats only my opinion.

ECW will not come back. Leave it rest. The only pro's about WWECW was the fact it gave CM Punk, Christian and various other midcarders make better names for themselves and a bit of exposure.

The chair swinging, mass brawls of the old ECW will never been seen on WWE programming, at least while they have all these megamoney sponsership deals that require them to be PG-14 or whatever silly number it is now.

 

[Chauncy Talon]

LMAO. This happens each and every year. Somebody post that "rumors" have been circulating that WWE wants to combine the brands again. This will never happen. WWE is not making the money like in the 90's, but WWE has too many wrestlers. This rumor comes up each and every year around the "Road to Wrestlemania."

WWE wouldn't be abolish the IC belt, but US title has more pestigue then the WWE World title. All the greats had the US title. Ric Flair, Harley Race, Sgt. Slaughter, Ricky Steamboat, Lex Lugar. All but Flair and Slaughter had won the WWF/E World Title. The US title have been around longer then the WWE have been active.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

For me it has to be the Intercontinental Title.

While the US Title may have just as memorable legacy as the IC Title, the Intercontinental belt is part of the backbone of the WWE, it is a title born in the WWE and if one championship was to remain I believe it should be that one.

Looking back over history and some of the greatest WWE Champions, most have held the IC Title. Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Stone Cold, The Rock, Randy Savage and more all made their name holding the 2nd tier championship, with others such as Ricky Steamboat, British Bulldog, Roddy Piper, Mr Perfect etc all being forever linked with the title, becoming legends without ever being world champion, and giving us some of the greatest matches of all time over the IC belt.

Yes the US Title meant alot in WCW, it was their IC Title, but this is the WWE...the company that won the war. Their 2nd championship should be the one to remain if a unification was to occur. The Intercontinental Title means more to the WWE than the US Title, and especially to long term loyal WWE fans, who remember these classic feuds and who didnt watch WCW.

Gotta be the IC title for me.

 

[Gman35]

LMAO. This happens each and every year. Somebody post that "rumors" have been circulating that WWE wants to combine the brands again. This will never happen. WWE is not making the money like in the 90's, but WWE has too many wrestlers. This rumor comes up each and every year around the "Road to Wrestlemania."

WWE wouldn't be abolish the IC belt, but US title has more pestigue then the WWE World title. All the greats had the US title. Ric Flair, Harley Race, Sgt. Slaughter, Ricky Steamboat, Lex Lugar. All but Flair and Slaughter had won the WWF/E World Title. The US title have been around longer then the WWE have been active.

You my friend are wrong. The NWA United States Heavyweight Championship was established in 1961, The WWF/WWE was established in 1956. That being said, The IC title would stay and the U.S. title would go away again

 

[byrnside]

There's not a whole lot that I can add to this discussion, seems like the Intercontinental title has won by a landslide.

Growing up, I was a huge WWF fan, and the Intercontinental title was a major part of that. I always preferred the "work horse title" matches to the main events. Off the top of my head, guys like Ricky Steamboat, Randy Savage, Rick Rude, Bret Hart, Roddy Piper, Mr. Perfect, Shawn Michaels, Razor Ramon, Diesel, The British Bulldog, Owen Hart, The Rock, Stone Cold, Triple H, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, all legendary wrestling names that paved the way for what wrestling has become today, were at one time the Intercontinental champion.

Now on the other side of the fence, we have the United States title, and the same argument could be made, the only difference in name power I can notice though, would be Sting, Lex Luger, and Ric Flair.

It's clear that both have very similiar, prestigious histories, but the fact remains, and as someone so elloquently put it earlier, the WWE won the war. The Intercontinental title would have to win out.

 

[DeathClutch]

This is a redundant question unless your asking fans from 2003-present.
Fans who watched NWA/WCW loyally will say the US and thous who watched WWF will say IC and I'm the same, I'd vote IC everytime because I didn't get the opportunity to see much of the US title until 1999 and by then it was a joke Steiner had just vacated the belt due to injury and David Flair was now US champion.

In WWE I actually think since 2003-2011 the US Belt has been given more opportunity more so since 2007-2011 with longer championship runs, and the quality of champions and matches being better however I do believe the IC Belt is the better Championship (name wise) and WWE mergering the belts up and calling it the Undisputed IC Champion would be better from a WWE stand point.

 

[AUSSIE_pride92]

Easily the IC championship because it is a WWE original and has been held by the greatest of the greats and where as when I think of the WWE US championship I actually think of the WWE version as mentioned earlier.. the Cena spinning belt, the Orlando Jordan reign.. the MVP/Benoit US title fued so it's not really that prestigious when I think about it because I don't picture it as the proper US title so the obvious choice would be to go with the IC, that's just my opinion but I would like to think people share the idea?

 

[King Patrick Star]

If it is indeed the Intercontinental Championship vs. the United States Championship, I would pick the Intercontinental Title to stay and the United States Title to go. However, if it were up to me, I’d rather unify the United States Title and the World Title together, getting rid of the US Belt, and unify the Intercontinental Title and the WWE Title together, getting rid of the IC Belt and brining it back to the days of WM XIX!! Either that or just leave it alone as is.

 

[osborne79]

is it just me or is anyone else thinking we will see a world - inter unification at wrestlemania, with del rio feuding with kofi i fully expect kofi to drop the ic title to del rio at EC and that leaves me with the question will they be unifying the two titles? thoughts?

 

[osborne79]

great thread mate, i was thiking the same thing, its possible and it would create interest for the ppv itself but what happens after mania will they keep both titles or unify them , thats the issue, well im off to lunch and congratulations on your thread writing skills A+!

 

[osborne79]

how does it make no sense it would create interest and give del rio a bigger role in mania with a harder push

 

[Teddy Irving]

He asked would they unify the two titles if you read my post you would see why it makes no sense. Have him hold both is fine but to actually unify the two titles it just wouldn't make any sense.

 

[Jay85]

I say no. That would leave no mid-card title for SD. I know the IC title isn't held in the same regard, but it still serves a purpose. I do wonder what is the point of the Del Rio and Kofi feud, but I don't think it will result in unification.

 

[The Suplexer Perfecter]

They did that in 2002. People went crazy and the IC title came back in May of 2003.

I wouldn't mind if one star held both, but unifying it and dropping the IC title is a total no deal.

 

[Lucha-Libre is wrestling]

Ok lets break it down:
1. The World Heavy weight Championship - is a World title ( I guess the word heavy is there because the belt is big and heavy) but this is wrestling and it doesn't have to make total sense.
2. The IC title is more of a International belt thats why they scraped the European title.
3. The US title doesn't need a description
4. The WWE Title is consider a world title
ok now lets do some wrestling math 1+4= makes sense to unify if the champ is on both Raw and smackdown. 1+2 or 2+3 or 3+4 don't make no sense at all they just don't add up as unify titles. I think wwe is going to unify the world heavy weight title with the wwe title and just have The wwe champ, IC champ, Tag champs and the US champ and have all their champions be on both Raw and Smackdown.

 

[King Patrick Star]

I think this could work and work out very well. I would, however, rather see the World Title and United States Title unified and the see the WWE Title and the Intercontinental Title unified. If the WWE is going to have two Titles, why not the WWE and World Title active instead of the WWE and Intercontinental Title??

 

[Lion's Sacrifice]

They really do need to unify the belts. I've never really been a fan of it especially when it comes to the world titles. On Smackdown, you have a guy saying I'm the best in the business because I'm the champ.... Wait a second, you're not the only champ! Its just not right to have two"world champs" least in my opinion. They need to unify the world titles and then unify the IC and US belts. Let Dolph have the title back and let him and Bryan have a nice feud. I'd love it.